Video of the Amber update for the Lumia 920

LOL someone has a short term memory and has forgotten about all those WP7 devices that never got updated to WP8

That had nothing to do with Nokia. Windows 8 dropped support for the low resolution screens that were in Windows Phone 7, as well as it being optimized for multi core processors and requiring more RAM. That was about Windows Phone 7 devices not having requirements for Microsoft's new OS, so a new one was created with some features from 8. That's like me complaining that my old computer running Windows 95 won't run Windows 7 because I don't have the minimum system requirements. Why should they have to spend a lot of money just to figure out how to make it work with old hardware rather than just pushing forward? I'm sorry but not upgrading to Windows 8 was the right move.

I dont think it had anything to do with screen resolutions. Most the the WP8 phones and all the WP7 phones have the same resolution i.e. 800 x 480.

And also, remember that a lot of WP8 devices have 512 Mo of RAM like WP7 devices, and You Can have WP8 on the very old HTC HD2, which is an incredible device.

None of the Windows Phone 8 devices have 800x480 resolution. They are all 1280x720+. The HTC 8x is 1280x720 and the Lumia 920 is 1280x768. The Samsung Ativ S is 1280x720.

WTF!!!! How about the Lumia 520, 620, and 720? They are all WP8 devices with 800X480 resolution. Don't post comments about things you clearly know nothing about.

Wow. You are an angry ... Angry little man. You should not let internet comments bug you this way.

Windows CE Kernel in Windows Phone 7 goes way back. It powered Windows CE, Windows Mobile, and Zune. None of those have a dual core. Windows NT kernel in Windows Phone 8 is a huge step forward. It's more flexible and easier to port apps from Windows 8, Windows RT, Android, and iOS to Windows Phone 8 than to Windows Phone 7.

Exactly. Windows NT kernel is also more resource consuming. I don't understand why people are whining about them not making it available on their old phones. Microsoft should NOT hold back just because it should fit on old hardware. They need to compete and move forward.

The devices you have listed do have a resolution of 1280x720+, but they are not all the devices running WP8. You forget devices like Lumia 520, 521, 620, 820, 822. They all have a resolution of 800x480

I may have forgotten a few. Point is though, that the main reason for no Windows 8 is a huge architectural change as well as hardware differences, as confirmed by several people including one I quoted in another comment from a Microsoft rep.

So this suddenly has nothing to do with the OS but in terms of samsung and android it does? 
so far the only provider for smartphones with a descent update policy is apple - whatever anyone else says. google and microsoft give simply to many rights do anyone else to interfere 

That is only because they have one phone.

Android never went through a major change. There are a lot of differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8 phones. Samsung won't update their old hardware. My HTC Inspire 4g will never get upgraded. My S2 will not get the newest Android. Microsoft did a major jump from 7 to 8. The biggest is memory. Windows Phone 7 devices have only 512mb of RAM. Microsoft gave you an update to 7.8, which has features of 8, but using the same core. Windows Phone 7 also uses the old Windows CE core/kernel. Windows Phone 8 uses shared core with the new Windows NT kernel. You can't easily run code designed for one kernel and run them on another completely different platform. from americantechblog (this can also be found on cnet and other places): "between Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 8. Windows Phone 7 operating system using the core program (kernel) Windows CE. Windows CE kernel is also used to develop Windows Mobile, Microsoft’s mobile operating system before Windows Phone 7. Well, in Windows Phone 8, Microsoft decided to no longer use the Windows CE kernel. Windows Phone 8 ended up using the Windows NT kernel, a kernel is also used in the Windows operating system for computers and tablet 8. Why Lumia 900 can not 'upgrade' to Windows Phone 8? This is why the previous smartphones using Windows Phone 7, can not run Windows Phone 8. “A simple way to menganalogikannya is, before you have a cell phone capable of running the program, but now you have a computer that can make phone calls,” said Sullivan, as quoted by Mashable.
Microsoft can inherit the operating system architecture that is very useful for users, partners, hardware makers and application developers."

at least you've got updated to 7.8 and got the wp8 funcionality, imagine you would still run a 7.5 lol  I dont see the reason why are you guys complaining so much. 

7.8 will not run 8.x apps. However most of the phones running 7.8 are almost off of contract. All of the mango phones (IE they didn't get the 7.8 update) should be off contract by now. So go ahead and get yourself a WP8 device if you can. If not get it in about 6 months.

 
MSFT _never_ made any announcements which said WP7.x device would be able to update to WP8. They have been clear about current WP8 hardware being able to update to at least the next major OS update (which GDR2 is not).
 
So lol at you :D

But those customers could get the WP 7.8 update. Has that been released yet? Either way, Nokia phones are more likely to get these updates then other brands.

I think any phone that would get the 7.8 update has gotten it by now. My HTC Arrive never did and considering that sprint dropped it from their line up a while ago I don't expect it to. At least not officially. With that said, I like my Nokia 928.

Someone really have LONG term eye loss... I clearly mentioned "every WP8 device." Yet somehow found trolls..

ammarmalik2011 says:
.LOL someone has a short term memory and has forgotten about all those WP7 devices that never got updated to WP8

Basic requirement for wp8 to run is a dual core processor.... Wp7 devices didn't hav it. Simple as that!

Anyone who claims to know anything all about VZW's schedule is feeding you a line. The people who know are not on this site as either members or managers, or if they are members would say absolutely nothing. Leaking that sort of information gets you fired or gets your consultant contract teminated.

Well since Verizon bullies MS and Nomia, I'd say we have a better chance of updating our phones to am EOS in a year before we get this update. I wish MS would put their foot down and say, no crappy bloat. Make them installable and removable apps, and MAKE THEM METRO/MODERNUI!!!

You know there's no unremovable bloat on any windows phone

@coolestnerd: you haven't touched a windows phone on vzw. Go to a MS store and I challenge you to try and get rib of Backup Assistant. Go ahead and try, I bet you $1million you can't. VZW force integrates itbwith the phone OS, and it sucks.... Badly. And even though the phone is "unlocked" per vzw's FCC and DoJ guidelines for the C block LTE 700mhz spectrum here in the US, they still find ways to screw OEMs and customers. If I moved to say Europe and took my 928 with me, itbwould work... But i would NEVER be able to setup Internet sharing because VZW has put in a lock foe the Diag editor so the correct APNs will never be able to be set... Ever. Hows that for no bloat and no lock?

@Stephen_az, Sorry but that is not true. While working at Centurylink VZW presented us with privy information on WP devices and the expected timeline HTC and Samsung also had reps that were present answering all questions as well.

I too, wonder on the 928 arrival.
I really want that IBM Notes Traveler update ASAP for work.

Really wish Samsung & HTC would make some effort and get these extra features. I know Nokia are working hard to boost WP but the fragments are beginning to widen more.

In my mind, these are "features" and not "fragmentation".  If Nokia adds features to their devices, they are not fragmenting.  Nothing here is causing a scenario where a developer will make an app that can only work on Nokia, but not on HTC and Samsung.  Are the HTC Hub and Samsung "Chat On" apps, considered "fragmentation" too?  

Its inescapable in this community, that regardless of the article, people will complain about something. Look through the comments of the halo Spartan ops article, people bitching and moaning that its taken too long, or it won't be on wp7 so ms have shit on everyone etc.

Even in a Nokia-centred update, people are still pissing on Samsung and HTC. Can't escape it!

I'm guessing seeing the goodies Nokia is bringing is making them want something from HTC, Samsung. So it makes sense that this is where they'll piss on them.

Samsung and HTC have been pretty much pissing on themselves with WP8 WADR

HTC already has flip to silence.

Yes, I really liked this on my Trophy.  Will be glad to have it again on my 920 and 820.

Seriously i agree i Just see Nokia working Hard whereas MSFT, SAMSUNG & HTC do nothing. HTC just did nice 8x & 8s designs nothing much..

MSFT do nothing? You realize none of this would be possible without them right?

MSFT is just making their own loss by making the OS but not maintaining it.
They now need to keep up with competing OS they cant keep relaying upon their OEM for their sucess as MSFT too need to get back to work now.

Will this update be available for lesser Lumias like the 520?

GDR2 stuff will be available for any WP device. In regards to Amber? Well something like flip to silence could make it to the 520, but some of the other things, like glance or setting the color profile, might require higher end hardware. 

I'm mostly interested in double-tap to wake. If it makes it to my Lumia 620 than I'm cool with it. :)

Bought Nokia 501 2 days back 501 has got double tap to wake dnt worry u will getit

Saw a post on nokias site that glance screen will NOT be coming to the 520/1. Hardware reasons.

wow. hardware reasons seriously? I suppose each lumia line built around similar hardware

I have a 521 which is a great phone for the cost, but I don't believe the tft LCD can handle the glance screen. I may be wrong and it could be another reason why.

And this is why I always will buy a Nokia. So excited for this.

Nokia is really pissing me off with their AT&T exclusivity bullshit.

Switch to AT&T...

AT&T has the best service and phones! No problems for me at all been with them since 2006!!!

Actually, what the best service is depends on where you are.  If you sit in my kitchen with your ATT phone, it will be a paperweight that sits and watches my Verizon phone blaze at more than 20 Mbps with four bars of LTE.

Exactly. People that argue one carrier or another has better service based only on their location just don't get it. That said, AT&T is pretty decent in the Chicago suburbs, and I like that they offer the stock Nokia designs and offer them quickest. They also are not afraid of the wide variety of colors like Verizon and T-Mobile seem to be. So if AT&T service is decent in your area, I think they are they best for WP.

Sure, if you enjoy spending money.

Verizon is more expensive.

AT&T = Poor service & High Prices. Had AT&T cable but could never get the download speeds I pay for (ever). Next, Wife bought me the Lumia 920 in Jan but I returned it in under a week (I found out the monthly fees) the store rep said the phones I bought still showed its in their warehouse, took them several days to figure out what to do, 5 days later got a call to bring the phones back (which I did) 1 month later still got a bill for the phones n mthly service fees. Called AT&T was told I still had the phones. Long story, I had to get the B.B.B involved before they acknowledged their error and cleared my account. Point, no amount of money can get some of us to sign a contract with AT&T, ever.

They're on Verizon and T-Mobile too with high end devices...

*facepalm* Which is why they have also released the 928 on Verizon and the 925 on T-Mobile.

I think you mean "(Insert you carrier) is pissing you off with their not going all in with Windows Phone BS and you should just leave them and go to a carrier that supports what you want to use"...right??  Besides, doesn't Verizon have a Lumia 928 and TMob getting the 925?  That's not "exclusive".  

No I think he means Att saying give us exclusives or we want promote your phones. Their bit@# slapping Elop in the USA. Now you be a good bit@# and do what we say. Elop needs to grow some balls and go the Samsung route. The G4 has already sold 20 million. Guess what no exclusive crap with Sammy. Its pedal to the metal on all carries. Some people hate Samsung. You gotta respect them for not kissing a@# like Nokia does to Att.

tbonega, if you seriously beleive any of that you are an absolute idiot.
 
The realities and requirements of marketing Samsung vs Nokia product could not be more different.  If Nokia was in Samsung's position right now you would be right, but they are most certainly not, and the arrangements they have made have been exactly what they need to do to sell the maximum number of phones and grow Nokia's market in the US.

I'd say Nokia's leadership is idiotic. Nokia has no faith in their hardware so Nokia kisses Att's butt. That's a shame because I think Nokia can stand head to head on hardware and win. Unfortunately Nokia's leadership doesn't. Therefore there's no one kick butt Nokia like the G4 or One. Nokia's flagships are fragmented 920, 925, 928. That's a horrible marketing strategy. Instead of the media talking about one flagship all the attention is divided. You know the old saying. United you stand, divided you fall..... That's my take.

I understand your take, but it's not based on anything resemnbling the reality of the situation.  Nokia does not have Samsung's massive advertidsing budget, or Samsungs incredibly large pre-built audience of rabid fans.  They cannot afford to push the Nokia name into people's minds like Samsung has done.  I woudl agree that Nokia's phones are superior... that's why I own them.  But that matters little in the game of advertising and backroom deals.
 
Because of this, they need partners that will assist them and defray the costs.  AT&T would have no incentive to pay their own money to advertise and subsidise a phone that does not have a high level of user demand and can be bought at the "other" carrier down the street.  So AT&T says "you make this phone exclusive to us and we will promote it, offer it premium space in stores, and subsidise it so that instead of a $200 price tag it is only $100, encouraging many more users to buy it."  This is not "butt kissing"... this is a mutually beneficial business tradeoff where both sides benefit.  And it works well for both parties.  Nokia gains far more sales from the increased advertising and much better pricing than they lose by not offering the exact same model across all carriers. 
 
As another factor to add on top, also consider the difficulty that Nokia had even supplying AT&T enough 920s to go around.  Offering it across multiple carriers at once would have meant just spreading the same number of phones around even thinner, and frustrating more customers.  Except for the fact that again, they wouldn't have the advertising push or the very cheap subsidized pricing, so demand would be lowered.
 
Even if Nokia tried to make one "master phone", the carriers would not carry it.  Nokia is not a huge brand in the states, and they do not have the muscle to promote it on their own.  So why do you think the carriers would waste time stocking it?
 
You just don't have the full story, and your walking around name calling and being childish based on a couple assumptions you have made that are incredibly off base.

I agree with some of what your saying however there's a consequence with releasing a flagship phone on one carrier, especially in the US. US mobile users are bound to their wireless provider. I would never consider AT&T because of the service in my city. Verizon is much better for me and my family is locked to the provider for another 2 years- everyone has a newish phone and we can't just up and leave. Also there's a dangerous precedent being set: why support Nokia or Windows Phone if I can't get their flagship phone on my carrier of choice? I love my N822 however I'm fed up with the lack of updates. The N920 gets ALL the love. The fact that Verizon users had to wait 6 months for old hardware (N928) when the N925 was right around the corner is a slap across the face. If there's not a flagship Nokia on Verizon before my next upgrade, im not sure I'll put up with this BS the next time. Samsung's strategy is better for one reason and one reason only. Platform/carrier agonistic is superior because its Pro-consumer. People care little about who makes their phone, they care about getting the phone they want. I guarantee the next big Samsung and iPhone will grace Verizon, at the same time as AT&T too.

Samsung is able to do that because they don't need help from the carriers. Carriers are chomping at the bit for Samsung phones, not Nokia or even HTC (can't get the One on Verizon). If Nokia had a choice of releasing a phone and properly supporting it on all carriers they would as it is the smart business choice but they can't.

That is very true. Samsungs marketing budget is more than ten times of what Nokia can spare. So, Samsung doesn't need the help from carriers.

You're complaining about the downsides of the bargain that has been struck, but not providing any solutions for the issues with doing what you are suggesting.  How can Nokia solve these issues without making carrier deals:
 
(1) Nokia does not have clout in the US like Samsung does.  Masses of people walk into stores requesting or expecting to buy a Samsung (or Apple for that matter).  Comparitively few would think the same of Nokia.
(2) Nokia does not have a huge bag of moeny to spend on their own advertising.  They need the carriers to do the work.
(3) Nokia cannot force carriers to carry or promote low demand phones.  Carriers do not want phones that have no exclusivity, no advertising muscle behind them, and low pre-built consumer demand.
(4) One advantage that moves customers Nokia's way is the great pricing on a subsidized phone.  Carriers will not subsidize a non-exclusive phone anywhere near as much.  If you walk into an AT&T store and there is an S4 for $200 and a Lumia 920 for $50, that right there is a powerful motivator for people to actually give the Windows Phone a look.  If they are both $200 most will just buy the Samsung and never look back.
 
You can make the best product in the world but if nobody is talking about it and nobody knows about it you will fail.  I absolutely agree with all the downsides you have mentioned, but how can Nokia simply burst onto the US scene and make everyone take notice?  They can't.  They need to build the demand by making the deals they need to make to build market and mindshare.  Once you are a demanded product, the carriers will then line up to offer your product.  But that doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't happen without massive marketing dollars or a product that blows away the competition in immediately obvious ways that consumers will latch onto.  Windows Phone is incredibly slick, and clicks with a lot of us... but you can't say it does things so much better that people are breaking down the doors of carriers to get their hands on them.
 
One solution would be for MS to step up and advertise the hell out of it.  They have definitely improved much on this this year, but there is such a long way to go.  Nokia still needs these carrier deals.

Apple rose to dominance on one carrier..AT&T.
Android on Moto started their assault on one carrier...Verizon. ONLY when they were established did you see them become carrier agnostic and that's because they had leverage at that point.  Nokia doesn't.
Samsung came into this game with more cash on hand.  THEY could supply the marketing with no assistance from Google or any carrier.  They could afford to essentially buy demand for their product.  Carriers love that and they'll all take those sales that cost them nothing.  Nokia doesn't have that and needs carrier marketing dollars that only come with exclusivity...just like iPhone and Droid did it.
You can curse and call them names all you want, but that's how this business works in the USA.  

You can't really use that excuse. When the iPhone came on the scene it was unknown. The majority of people had dumb phones. Carriers were weary of it. Att gambled and it paid off. Now that smartphones are mainstream Apple realized their previous business model was flawed for today's market. Therefore you have the iPhone on every carrier now. You mentioned motto... Are they even still around? You never hear about them. I'm assuming you're referring to Verizon's plan to team up with Google to combat Att getting all the new customers with the iPhone. Well Verizon didn't have a smartphone to complete. Please don't say they had blackberry. So android was created. Again in the dawn of smartphones. In todays world and marketing being fragmented isn't gonna grow the brand. Just read this forum. You have people already bickering about what's better 920, 925, 928 & 1020. A lot of people say I'm not getting this or that because mines better. Spec wise there the same and so forth. Some are starting to complain. That's why Nokia needs one flagship for all carriers to unite the W8phone users and have one phone that the media keeps talking about to gain name recognition. Even if Nokia has to cut the price they need to do something to gain traction because they have solid phones.

Hey, maybe Nokia should open 4 million lemonade stands and offer a free flagship phone with every cup of lemonade?  They's have HUGE marketshare!  Again, you are totally ignoring the issue that Nokia does not have the resources or clout to do what you're suggesting.  But clearly you don't want to understand why not, so I will leave you to sit in the corner facing the wall with your fingers in your ears and your masterplan for Nokia world domination.  If only they had hired you instead of Elop!

I'm not going to get into a long argument because this isn't really about "opinion" but rather a set of facts: 1. Nokia doesn't have the money to do what Samsung is doing. Period.  They NEED exclusive agreements to partner with carriers for marketing.  
2. This exclusive partnership with a carrier to battle the status quo is exactly what Apple and Android did.  The status quo then was feature phones, although Windows Mobile existed and yes, so did Blackberry (which dominated for years, so I will bring them up even though it is inconvenient to your argument).  The status quo now is the duopoly of iPhone and Android and partnerships are needed for Nokia to compete. 
*FYI - Motorola still very much does exist. Perhaps you've heard of their Droid lineup of devices It seems that you are upset because the phone that YOU want isn't on the carrier that YOU use, thus you aren't going to consider the predicament that Nokia is in.  Facts are facts no matter what you think Nokia "needs" to do.  They have limitations to what they "can" do, plus they are doing a lot of what they "should" do based of historical business practices.  

You mean your service/carrier is pissing you off because they can not exclusively get Nokia phones like att can.

Hi, I'm from the UK, so shoot me down if I've called this wrong. But isn't the problem with US carriers to do with the technology they use? I believe AT&T use the same GSM frequencies as most of the rest of the world, but T-Mobile use an odd GSM frequency and Verizon use CDMA (which is almost only used in North America). So when Nokia make a phone, they want it to work in most of the world (as you would), so AT&T get the same phones as Europe, Africa, most of Asia, etc. That's why Verizon and T-mobile lag behind, because then Nokia has to make devices that work on their networks, and a lot of the time, these devices turn out to be exclusives. Here in Europe all phones, once unlocked, will work on all carriers in all countries. That just doesn't happen in the US because of the differing wireless technologies/frequencies.

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Lol. All in seriousnes, I'm just updating you on the T-Mobile situation in the US. The odd frequency you mentioned is the frequency used for WCDMA (AKA 3G) services. T-Mobile only used Band IV (1700MHz/2100MHz pair aka AWS) for 3G and its so-called 4G services up until 2012, because of this most at&t and unlocked phones only worked on EDGE. Now, T-Mobile's frequencies are more in line with at&t's. T-Mobile now has WCDMA operating on Band II (1900MHz pair aka PCS) alongside Band IV for WCDMA and is also using Band IV for LTE just like AT&T. Thanks to this, any at&t device once unlocked will work flawlessly on T-Mobile, not necessarily the other way around. Also, most, if not, all unlocked phones support Band II for 3G. Therefore the problem T-Mobile once had is not a problem anymore.
However, T-Mobile is still having difficulty in getting flagship devices to sell for their network as they don't have enough money to outbid at&t for device exclusivity. Verizon and Sprint is a story for another day as they aren't GSM carriers, and there, carriers control the devices allowed on its network.
 
 
 
 

I agree with what you're saying, but as a long time tmob customer in a refarmed city, I gotta say flawless is a bit of an exaggeration(at least in my city). Im still on my HD7 because I've compared the coverage between my sister's tmob iPhone and my friend's unlocked 920, also my HD7. The iPhone gets the same coverage as me, but with 4G and LTE in places. Since a lot of my city is still 3G, the 920 gets edge if it can't get 4G or LTE (att quadband cannot do tmob 3G). If the 925 is too expensive (the rumors say they are, compared to the $450 920 and $500 928), I'll go with a Rogers pentaband 920. We've been refarmed for a few months now, so I really hope it improves.

I believe there is also a big CDMA network throughout China.

Seriously loved buying a Nokia but MSFT does nothing and I feel pity for HTC & Samsung users that all they get is FM Cal&CardDAV.. ?? :/

All these people with all these assumptions. MS is doing nothing? C'mon.

MSFT is just making their own loss by making the OS but not maintaining it now.
They now need to keep up with competing OSs, they cant keep relaying upon their OEM for their success as MSFT too need to get back to work now, I hope you too would agree that features like these wont help compete their is a lot to do for WP OS and the reason being most ppl like WP but don't buy them at the end due to lack of general features(I've seen a student group who ditched WP in a shop).

We love you Nokia!!!

And I love you random citizen!

That was funny Metroman.

Anyday love it

When I read this I thought it said Amber Alert as in the child missing law.

Me 2

Lets hope Telstra in Australia get this out to us in a timely fashion....hahaha sorry that was a ridiculous statement

It's sad that I was thinking the exact same thing.

Probably 2months after u.s just like 1314

We'll be waiting, but I had the misfortune of getting an unbranded Lumia 800 before the 920, and had to wait until after Telstra had updated their phones for the aus unbranded firmware to release anyway.

Will the ability to set different volumes for ringer and media be in the GDR2 update?

Doubtful. We should have seen it in the 925 by now, I'd think.

Probably not till 8.1, if even then =(

Im so jealous!

So the Nokia 920 dose get the always on clock. Seeing as the 920 dose not use AMOLED. How will this affect the battery life.

It's an option that can be turned on or off. You're not forced to use it. But as the 920 has an IPS screen it will probably kill the battery life.

I was guessing it would murder the battery life,this makes me sad.i know your not forced to use it. But the always on clock is very very handy. Time to get me a AMOLED Nokia

Sorry I was trying to reply and deleted the comments...... App is buggy for some reason. But ya im not 100% but that's what I heard. And it makes sense to implement that feature.

I heard it from this WPCentral pretty sure. I don't get WP news anywhere else lol.

Actually not always on, uses prox sensor so screen turns off when in pocket or flipped over, clock only visible when sensor is not obstructed

I really would love to have the ability to move my photos and create folders

+1

+1,000,000,000 once again, simple $#!t they tease us and make us wait for.... WPH made them in the first WPs... Lol.

What is WPH?

Pocket file manager. Its the best that they can do without the proper API. I love it though.

Just plug into your PC and use file explorer.

yeah, i should carry my pc everywhere as i carry my phone evrywhere, that sounds great \s

Do you have to move photos to certain folders immediately? It just doesn't seem like that much of a hassle to keep new photos in the Camera Roll and then later organize them into their appropriate folder. That's what I do, but I understand different people have different needs. Smartass.

Data Sense. I'll be royally pissed if I don't get it with the update and Nokia keeps Counters WP7-only.
Appart from that, I doubt Microsoft will fix important issues like the separate volume controlers of the lack of personalization in the tones department.

That's all we get with GDR2? I was expecting a fix for the other storage by now. Hopefully that list isn't finalized.

I agree...the other storage issue needs to be resolved.

That's all we know right now. There could easily be more. 

Well its already on the 925 and there hasn't been any sign of anything more so it looks like this is it.

Here here

I have 12GB in my "Other" storage on my Lumia 920. I really don't want to have to reset my phone...

Try "Shrink Storage", it helps me get my "other" storage down.

Yeah, you can try Shrink Storage... but it only cleared about 100 MB on my phone... Not worth the time

actually the large consumption of other storage is because of auto upload to skydrive. after each photo uploaded the storage usage keep increasing without any option to clear them except for phone reset. what point of having auto cloud backup when they keep consumes your phone memory.

Yeah Storage Fix how did i forget that..?? Thanks to Nokia for Lumia Storage app for clearing Temp but Others Folder is still a Pain .. X_X

Sorry but I still don't get what's the "profile color", can anybody explain me?

Agreed... Since it doesn't say new profiles colors... It simply says "profile color" I feel like it means you can make the background a diff color than black and white. Which is common sense, they obviously know we want it. Good way to make there OS look more appealing each year, add little features that a hacker can do with zero brains. iOS was a victim of the same marketing BS.

Gotta give a little more credit to the hackers.

I think it is like screen white balancing.

It is about the colour saturation and white balance of the screen

Its just like your color settings on a TV.

Lumia 810?

Weren't there Xbox Music improvements coming as well?

Supposedly yes, but I asked Lumia 925 users and they noticed none.

I'm just wondering when we'll finally see more carriers support NFC Tap-to-Pay. This "ISIS" crap here in the US is ridiculous. Just release SIM cards with the secure element chip already!

Agreed!!!

So, I get CalDav & CardDav support, and FM-Radio. That's fucking awesome Microsoft, now I see why there haven't been ANY updates for WP in over half a year. This makes it up for me, thanks.
LOL

Totally agreed. I thought It would be a major update and this is what I get. 
And we're talking about wp8 not android phones. I don't give a shit how few updates they get.

Isn't CalDav/CardDav THE reason for this update? I don't think this was supposed to be a change-the-world major update. This "Blue" thing a few months after is the big one, right???

So, you know that Blue is coming in few months,but no one else does. Great.

Sorry to burst your smartass bubble, but I was asking questions, not pretending to be a know it all.

I had thought Blue was after gdr3 spring next year, gdr3 fall/winter of this year ---or so my rumor memory recalls.

I used to flip my Lumia 800 to silence ages ago!?..........i had amber and gave it to my ex!!!!! :P

She's called Amber too!!!

Lol :-D

What's the deal with flip to silence? I have that feature on my 710 from TMo US. Did Nokia get rid of it on WP8 phones?

That feeling when HTC has had flip-to-silence on its 8X the day WP8 became available. Haha

AMEN. Haha. Its so stupid how these companies jerk us around. We appreciate the little stuff in the end so much that when they bring something noteworthy we s#!t our pants. Lol

Its just only Apple I've seen does it best no stupid delays or oddities in its features like WP8 & Android does I own iPadMini w/ Nokia Lumia 820 and I've to say everything feels quality H/w to OS to Apps to Features whereas here i just see Nokia pulling the boat. Love Nokia

How exactly do you measure delays when you have one current phone model at a time, with one firmware, with no carrier intervention ("testing"), to a platform that has many different models in many different ranges with more than one OEM, that requires input from the OS maker, OEM, AND carrier? A bit unfair of a comparison, don't you think?

I wrote a lot Duffau, but this site states error "Field not found". -_-
Anyhow I found you smart and updated to talk to. :)

Nokia 920 "woahhhh a COLORED PHONE AND ITS SO SHINY AND ROUND" yet the case is worth 10¢ and were so fascinated because they made us think the old boring phones were nice. Its BS

So Nokia adds a feature that HTC already had... I suppose HTC is planning to add some features and support that only Nokia currently has?

Old nok phones had these features it wasnt just htc

I hope these updates address the issue of my live tiles no longer updating on my 920.

One or several of your apps is causing your live tiles not to update.

Could you elaborate on that?

There some apps/software's that causes the live tiles to not work or update. I found out when I installed Facebook Beta, Nokia foursquare, and some other software that my live tiles stop updating and my phone gets very hot. I uninstalled the software's,and my llive tiles started to work again. Go to this thread and you can see what i posted under "wpaddict" name.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp8-wpapps/lives-tiles-stopped-updating-on-wp8/1b4b1d9b-5e77-4e3c-872b-e2c6ee9ff6c2?page=4&tm=1373004294293

I had the same issue, and it is to do with rogue apps. In my case I uninstalled a number of calendar apps and they started working again. Only calendar app I use now is Appointile.

Thanks!

And STILL no fix for "other" memory!! So we can all look forward to another million threads about it :(

Two quick questions:
1) Is double tap to unlock also going to work without the clock which keeps the screen always on? Or do i still need to use the power-button to get it from standby?
2) What providers is Datasense coming to? Any Dutch providers?

Waiting for Lumia 620 :)))

We need an orientation lock on lumia 920. Orientation lock will come in handy when using the phone in funny angles.

That will require an OS-level update, but I agree that it'd be nice to have. Landscape is only useful for games and photos.

Amen. This comment cannot be said enough. Possibly the absolute simplest feature to implement and 3 years later it is still missing.

Landscape support for the whole OS would be cool.

I also see the problem with where to put the lock. I'd want it on the fly. Maybe it's coming with the notification center? Although I'd love that, WiFi, BT, airplane mode, etc. switches on the multitasking screen. Would be very convenient.

What is the point of new wallpapers if i got wpcentral lockscreen?

+8

OK, it looks like WP 7.8 is still better than WP8 GDR2. Hopefully that changes with GDR3.

Not sure what you mean buy this?

He means he is still bitter about being stuck with WP 7.8. Let him be

LOL^^^^^

No he means wit his unlock 7.8 he has O-Lock and a lot of other basic features that WP8:Update lol :P

Uh... no.  No, that's not what this looks like at all.  Please check your glasses, I think you have them on inside out.

Lol how do you wear glasses inside out?

LOL

That part is called humor.  :-)

Can't wait to play with the color saturation and the warmth and cool color options. I think the 920 screen looks amazing as is bit be neat to mess around a little.

Is there any indication that Microsoft is actually considering what we want? I know there's that user voice page, but I dont think they officially commit to making any of those possible. All they say is put all your suggestions here and we MIGHT do it. It's just frustrating to not get any information at all.

Unfortunately that is their policy.  They call it "shut up and ship".  In other words, say nothing about what is coming and just get it ready for release then ship it.  This of course makes very little sense, as users constantly think they are not listening and are often right.  We have no way to manage our expectations of what releases will contain... this is why every time there is a minor update people are foaming at the mouth hoping that all the small things they would like implemented will be in it.  Then it always comes out and people are crushed when they find out there is actually very little new features.  If MS would just say "this is coming in WP8.1" or whatever, we at least would know not to expect it for GDR2 or GDR3.
 
User voice site is nearly useless because people make multiple threads about the same requests and no priority is given based on difficulty.  So many very, very simple features are not implemented because they are not #1, even though they would make a huge difference in perception while requiring very little work.  Please see orientation lock, volume profiles, etc.

Exactly! I think we all are so frustrated of the fact that Microsoft doesn't listen to us at all :S

Data Sense? About damn time. I remember them talking about putting it on our phones awhile ago.
 
I'm a litte curious about what the Smart Camera app is. I do like that they are doing stuff like that, but I'd rather them just add to the camera itself. One of the things I like most about WP is that you don't need apps to do some of the best things. I wish they'd keep to that Ideal and just add it as a function for the camera, Granted it's lumia only, but still haha.

I got hosed on the last Nokia update and ended up needing to flash. Since "most" app content as well as phone layout is not backed up starting over is hideously time consuming. I will be waiting and checking this website to make sure the update is sound. I don't want to be one of the first to find out the update has issues and is pulled.

Other Storage fix?

Sure, but its a secret.

Microsoft is toying with us!
First, they had the balls to remove a beautiful app, The Zune.
And then what do they give us? A broken, laggy Xbox Music!
And they wont fix it!

Yes I agree the Xbox Music sucks, but so did the Zune. It started up so sluggishly.. And adding new songs to the phone was a mess 'n' pain. I'm so happy that phones show up just as mass storage devices now

I wish I could have ProShot as my camera button app.

I bought it last night and always crashes not even a single shot was saved on totally Auto settings on my Lumia 820

Any Idea when the WP 8.1 blue update is due for release?

End of the year, beginning of 2014

Ok cool, thanks for the info!

Keep I mind this is all rumor. It could even be as late as spring or summer 2014. Grain of salt and all that

A nokia guy said to me.. In 5-6 weeks the update will arrive..

Was going to complain (again. Sorry!) about the other storage but seems my message has already been out a few times. My 820 has been a nice phone call - whatsapp only phone for a few months.

What the hell was that? I didn't see anything that would say wow..... Is that all?

What would wow you? Your phone would start making coffee?

Yours doesn't? Must be a Nokia exclusive.

Nok hater shame fyi verizon and tmobile has new Lumia's so please stop mentioning tht bull :)

To Spedez,
A phone with:
•No storage issues
•Screen Orientation
•Eye soaring screen brightness(slider pls)
•Separate Volume Control
•Background Tasks for all apps
•Notification Center
•Proper XBox Music
•Cant play many videos(very simple formats) from SD Card
•No Toggles for Controls
If it would make coffee I'll again buy a WP8 Nokia device but until then Next is Apple.

Can you see Nokia advertizing their new Lumia with slogans like "No storage issues! Get yours now!" :D
I want that separate volume control for ringer tone too but that wouldn't certainly "wow" me. Portrait mode would be nice too but those are Microsofts alley. Nokia can't do jack about those.
 
 

Neither, I ever saw any other OSs proudly advertising as:
"Our latest update has: "FM, CalDAV & CardDAV...". Thats all Spedez Now clap for MSFT!! :D LOL

How about a real feture like this? http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281201-custom-sounds-for-sms-mms-email-notifications-e

Nah, that's not even on my list.

how the Lumia 620 ?

Anyone know what IBM Notes Traveler does for you? Just lets you access your (notes) email remotely?

no rotation lock?
seriouly msft nokia?

I hope Lumia 520 gets this update

I'm feeling a bit frustrated. How in hell can't Microsoft implement the rotation lock feature? It bugs me every morning when I'm still in bed. This is the only reason why I hate windows phone. Oh and the lack of a proper whatsapp app.

I'm not a fan of rotation lock, just keep your phone straight.

I'm not a fan of people campaigning against MS implementing an incredibly easy and completely optional feature that is highly demanded and bothers many people daily in a big way.  

Really can't wait. Nokia Lumia 920 will have Glance?

it would be nice to have had some audio to listen to in this video. 

I personally don't care for any of these updates in particular.
I'd rather see MS fix feature issues with the OS rather releasing feel-good updates. There's just so many things the OS lacks.  It's an enormous list.

Was just about to post the same thing as AfroPhysics!
Why can't MS just fix the basic stufff ... I still can't get my business POP3 email to work correctly (my private POP3 email works correctly, but does not allow me to sync less than three days), sound volumes should be seperated for ring tones, alarms and games. Add third-party calendar support to the API, allow the ability to select all emails with one click, etc, etc.
I love my 920, but really MS, this is basic stuff. This is what seperates WP8 from the more mature and stable competitors. When people ask me about WP8, I tell them that although I love it, it is still immature compared to iOS and Android.

I think they do release this and any other OS updates to improve the overall performance as well as adding new features.

If u ask me WP is in a class of its own, a quality OS that I instantly got into the flow of using, very easy to use and seems very solid but yet so fluid at the same time! Sure its not perfect and there's some things Id like to do with it but cant, but hey ull get that with any phone. Its like the WP OS molds to the user very easily, its so intuitive! I love it

The one thing I'm looking forward to is the presumed improvement in photo quality. Color saturation and automatic white balance are still way off at times. Judging from the photo samples of the 925 running GDR2/Amber, the update should help to improve things.

"List view since you all like to scan and not read"
lol, I loved that!

Yeah, I LOL

No useful feature from MSFT. Very disappointing.

MSFT actually never did a update since WP7 but being frank i just notice no. Change No Background tasks work properly because of which WHATSAPP, VIBER & many apps suffer MORE THAN THAT I SUFFER. Wish i had Android in my Beautiful Nokia..!!

Just a punk troll, first he says he's getting an iPhone next, now he's talking about Android... all while mindlessly babbling about who knows what.

Exactly, and plus there has already been a few WP 8 updates since its release thank you very much!

I heard FEW... :|
Fact is you're right, there have been only FEW updates unlike other OSs. A OS needs to be strong enough packed w/ powerful features yet fluid that get you more OEMs but I dont see it w/ MSFT. :/ MSFT is only FLUID!

HEehehehehehehehee!! :D

Any Day dear Android & iOS are tons better than WP8. As iOS & Android dont sell a phone with these features:
•No storage issues
•Screen Orientation
•Eye soaring screen brightness(slider pls)
•Separate Volume Control
•Background Tasks for all apps
•Notification Center
•Proper XBox Music
•Cant play many videos(very simple formats) from SD Card
•No Toggles for Controls

Lockscreen clock is king.

I have a question about the update of amber .. only be for the nokia lumia 920? or will be for all nokia with wp8?

For all wp 8 devices I think. But the l520/1 won't have the glance screen

If the features like orientation lock, separate volume controls, custom notification tones, more than 6 tabs in ie, notification center are not there in this update, I will give up on MS for good. It shouldn't have taken this long in the first place. I think I have waited enough, and although I don't really like android ui I will buy an Android. at least I can use it the way I want. WP is good but it needs some solid improvements.

I mean really its horrible to see getting an update of 3 features ONLY from MSFT & out of which only FM happens to be useful & globally available... W*F..?? Whereas Nokia alone sends more Updates But never buying a WP OS but still a Nokia fan for their enthusiasm.. Switching to iOS or Android.. Waste Investment neither the WP7 got the major update for my father Lumia 800.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way.

Thanks for enlightening me with your EXPERIENCE about THE DOOR HITTING YOU! :D

As i can see Nokia is doing in the name UPDATE than MSFT. Seriously you get me FM + CalDAV &CardDAV Support as an UPDATE ..?? Is that a Joke..??

You should just throw your phone against the wall.   You seem to hate it with a level of passion that should be reserved for terrorists who kill puppies belonging to blind children.

OMG i thought only I'm going Crazy with the list of updates MSFT is providing in GDR2 but you already seemed to have crossed the boundaries of Craziness.. God may bless ya and world would be more peaceful place w/o crazy trolls :-P

Troll Patrol.

Can I join in your "Troll Patrol" Group, because you seemed to be such a FREE TROLLER that you even have a great name for your Group! :D :P 
You won this troll cometition  :D

I wonder Windows Phone is ignoring "Lock Portrait Mode"!!????? :/ they are bringing all the features but portrait mode lock .. :( People do surfing/texting all the time while going to sleep and this screen rotation frustrates :( Please bring this feature :)

Do you people sleep sideways hanging upside down? I don't understand, I'm laying down right now.

Josh, Tell us in which position you lay down at night and we'll also adjust ourselves to your pose after a long tiring day..
JOSH, Wait!! what if we could adjust phone's Screen Orientation instead of ourselves? :O COMMON-SENSE!! :)

Dude! I Love windows phone.. but the only thing that frustrates people the most in WP is "Lock rotation".. I think if they bring this feature, that'll be very good... after shutting down my laptop, I do chat wd my friends, check updates and it's difficult to type in horizontal mode.. :/

Mayur89, I agree that I too suffer from same. And also the Horrible Screen Brightness(Lumia 820. You also suffer that..? )... :/

Will it fix my music... Albums are split up for no good reason. All the data is the same.

Wish I could hammer out the WP8 OS of my lovely Nokia Lumia..!!

Wish you would hammer your way out of here troll.

Indeed I'd really prefer to do that as the WP8 doesn't even bear the most basic features and lacks best games Real Racing and apps Instagram, many others. I mean, I'm going for real quality either Android or iOS as MSFT is What You See Is Not What You Get. Love Nokia hate MSFT update feature from WP7 to WP8 to GDR2, i mean really just 3 features i mean that'd enough for babies like ya..

What's worse than a hater? A poorly informed hater.
Real Racing is available on WP and a 3rd party app for Instgram is also available with video coming soon... not that I care about either of those. I mean who cares about instagram other than a 15 y/o girl, but I'm not judging you on that.
And there are more than 3 features in the update, but you wouldn't be happy if it came with a flux capacitor.

A Blind Fan is much worse than a Hater trust me on this :D
1. Real Racing is available. Which Version? - Real Racing 2 (Paid) whereas iPhone/Android have "Real Racing 3" THAT TOO FREE!!!!! (Do you read word Free & latest.. ?) 2. Instagram 3rd Party apps are very good initiative by the Developers for which I really do a hats off! But Officals apps dont give a F about WP OS neither MSFT cares... Its Nokia who brought many Lumia Exculsive games and also patnered with Gameloft & EA!
3.You know only outdated ppl dont care about the apps they dont get like Instagram and Yes I'm a Photographer and love taking shots but from only phones and best service happens to be Instagram but Photoplay on WP8! 4.You know I'm happy that you're happy! atleast I dont fight like 10 year old girl nagging around about her Barbie OS. Pls realize the competition like Nokia already has and better MSFT too get serious now.

Peace out. Won't miss your posts. 

I promise peace! ^_^

Dude, enough. We get it that you're unsatisfied, we see your posts, you've made your point. But posting the same thing over and over doesn't change anything aside from making you look like a troll.

Haaww..
Look,
O_O--'  "I on purpose ignore you!" :D

Is this all the gdr 2 and amber will bring or is there more?

Could be it could be more. Dunno yet

I can't wait to have FM radio on my phone

Yeah I'm on crack!! Absolutely filthy that they STILL haven't fixed "other" memory!! MS r u out of ur f#$@ing mind!!!

The sad thing is wp7 cannot run wp8 coz they in diff kernels thats end of the road of wp7 but its worth it on 1st gen wp devices like my htc hd7 and thats why i dont upgrade to lumia 800 and 900 coz its the same software version i think now its worth it to upgrade to lumia 920

It seems like I get different answers everytime I read another post about these updates. I recently got a Lumia 810. Will I get both updates?

Depends if your carrier plays it nice.

Tmobile EOLed that phone. And since they're the only carrier in the world that had it, I'd say updates are unlikely. Hopefully there will be other ways to update.

I thought GDR2 will also allow for wav playback?

Are these Updates will also for Nokia Lumia 620 .

"Another cool thing with Amber for Lumia devices is about that physical camera button on your phone. You’ll be able to set what happens when you press the physical camera button on your device. It’s always been that with any Windows Phone device it would open the stock camera app, but you’ll be able to set the ...."
Is an Amber exclusive ir part of GDR2 ?
Will HTC or Samsung have the option as well to launch their own Camera App (if there's one in the first place) ?
 
& Ohh , Flip To Mute is available on HTC devices , my 8X have it .

It doesn't appear so.

As much as i love my WP im getting a little sick of being light years behind Android and Apple, ive been a loyal MS phoner since the early days of WM5 and to say that WP is a backstep is an understatement, there are sooo many thing that wp CANT do that others can and im getting really tired of waiting for MS to catch up, i want to be able to stream media from network shares, i want VPN, i want PROPER mass storage device, i want a less restrictive development enviroment (yes i know why the security is there) but at least give me the option to turn it off, im due for an upgrade next year.... Let the countdown begin!

You should have known the disadvantages of WP vs iPhone & Android, particularly if you been on the platform since WM5. Not sure what you're surprised about.

So out of Curiosity, with around 55,000 users so far voting for this, when is Microsoft going to fix the very simple issue of having custom text message tones? Or is this another silence no response thing? 
 
I have never known such an obvious and easy feature update to get so ignored.

I want my minute back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8LOLswfTkQ

When will this update be released for Lumia 720 (running on WP8)? Please Respond

Depends on your carrier.

You mean "IBM" Notes Traveler, right?

Yes. They fired their editor.

App installation on SD card still not possible?
That is the most wanted feature on my 820. 

Still no screen rotate locks? Sh#t!