Windows Phone 8.1 is already in manufacturers’ hands, new devices due late April

Earlier in the week we reported that the development of the Windows Phone 8.1 core had finished. There were some minor bugs by the secondary team that still needed to be ironed out, but in essence, the OS is completely wrapped.

What wasn’t clear was when the OS would be dropped to OEM partners to be put on devices. We assumed that it would be after some of those minor tweaks had been ironed out, but as it turns out it was March 26. In other words, the final build of Windows Phone 8.1 is now in Microsoft partners’ hands, being tested and prepped for devices.

That leads us to some other questions, like scheduling. Through various sources we’ve been able to verify that starting Wednesday, April 23rd, new phones running Windows Phone 8.1 will be available. It’s not clear which phones those are, but presumably the Lumia 630, Lumia 930 and Samsung ATIV SE (for Verizon) are top contenders. We’re also supposing that this is for US markets although it’s not known at this time.

Likewise for the much anticipated Windows Phone 8.1 Developer Preview. That program, which is open to anyone with a free App Studio account, is expected to be rolled out by ‘late April’. We’re not aware of a firm date yet for that program, but it is in its final stages of preparation.

The Preview for Developers program will allow anyone with an App Studio account and the Developer Preview app to download and run the final 8.1 bits on their Windows Phone 8 device – much earlier than waiting official updates. While technically for developers, it’s a wink and a nod to the ‘enthusiast community’, who want 8.1 just weeks after its announcement.

Finally, as to when those official over-the-air (OTA) updates will go out, it’s not clear. Official updates for individual phones are slightly more complicated due to the corresponding firmware that needs to be developed and the added hurdle of carrier testing. Ultimately, it is the carriers who will roll out the updates and like previous ones that could take months. Luckily if you want Windows Phone 8.1, you can have it within the next 30 days.

Windows Phone 8.1 is presumed to be announced next week in San Francisco, during Microsoft’s Build conference. We’ll be on hand to cover it live.

Daniel Rubino
Editor-in-chief

Daniel Rubino is the Editor-in-chief of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft since 2007 when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, laptops, next-gen computing, and for some reason, watches. Before all this tech stuff, he worked on a Ph.D. in linguistics, watched people sleep (for medical purposes!), and ran the projectors at movie theaters because it was fun.

506 Comments
  • I'm feeling it!
  • Whoaa!!! That was quick
  • I miss my TV serial "FRIENDS"...IT'S BEST
  • I do too.. But what does that have to do with this??
  • One of the worst sitcoms I've ever seen come out of the US, it could barely make me smile. I guess we have nothing in common. ;)
  • C'mon. You guys can still see each other. Really. You'll find something to talk about.
  • :)
  • That's prob just coz you are a miserable, miserable person.
  • Hahaha... Did I talk badly about your crappy show? Did I hurt your little feelings...hahaha:)
  • I can't wait anymore ...!!!! 2nd april CME up soon
  • Don't think we will be able to update on April 2nd. Since Daniel said late April...
  • Yeah, but he didn't say 2014 now did he? 
  • Official update .....wat is it ??
  • Is the developer preview really coming in late April ?
  • That's what she said...
  • Fail^
  • +620
  • I want it❔
  • How about a motion wallpaper like a gif behind the tiles that would be awesome
  • That's what I was saying yesterday... I've been thinking that since day one with WP7.0... We're getting closer to that.
  • THIS!!!!!!!!!! +10000000!!!
  • Not available for your kind.
  • Your female sex toys aren't available for my kind.. Tell me something I don't know❕❕... :-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o
  • oh my....  
  • What kind of female sex toys do you require?
  • Dyke sex toys... Lol!!...
  • I love THIS website.  Definitely the best site for Windows Phone news! :)
  • +1520
  • This site?? You must be confused with another website...
  • +920❕
  • also xbox :P
  • Daniel what about countries like India where phones are carrier neutral ? It depends on nokia/htc etc here, regarding when the firmware is launched. When is that expected then ? Would it be when nokia finishes the firmware, by june/july maybe ?
  • Bro you will recevie the update in late May or early June depending on your device. Better go for Developer Preview program if you know how to do it.
  • Dev preview has some disadvantages
    A) warranty gets void (main reason, i dont change phones every 6 months, that's why I'm on nokia)
    B) no firmware update
    C) some bugs are present
    D) people have experienced some issues after updating from Dev preview to black, issues which were not experienced by direct black update.
    That's why i don't want dev preview.
  • In that case, keep calm and keep walking...
  • ;)
  • Exactly how is Apple able to bypass carrier for OS updates?? Why can't MS do the same for their windows phones.. At least should do it for Nokia if not anyone else.
  • All to do with its massive popularity. Because everyone (sheep related) and their Gran thinks it's the best, Apple can set the rules rather than the carriers, same with pricing etc. Thankfully this power is starting to fade but WP as no where near that pulling power unfortunately.
  • This late April talk is really depressing. I know MS never committed to a date but if they plan to reveal it on the 2nd then they should have it all ready to go at most a few days after. Like Apple does most of the time. I mean if Apple can why can't MS? All this talk of mobile equality and apps being on all platforms this is where it has to start! I'm still hoping MS surprises us and releases everything on the 2nd...
  • No matter what Apple does, the iFans would still line up to buy the latest and "greatest". Not so with Microsoft, that's why they need to be strategic with their moves. Which means, they first have to wait for the new handsets to start selling in the market before releaseing the update to existing phones. Otherwise, the new handsets will end up gathering dust in the shelves. But can't wait for the 930 - the anticipation is like a pain in the gut!!! I'm also excited to see the WP8.1 version of the HTC One (M8) - how will they call it, the HTC 8.1X?
  • HTC 8.OneX
  • Because of the iPhone's popularity. If the carriers want to have iPhones they have to play by Apple's rules.
  • Doubtful, the iPhone had this ability since day one....
  • They kinda did. Their other power source came from the fact it was among the first popular smartphones wuith touch screen and apps. Because of the popularity it starteted to gather is that Google went and bought Android. I hate how Apple gets to manage the US market. However, I'm sure sooner or later they will decline exactly like they did long time ago.
  • cause apple does not change his hardware by one millimeter for carrier needs, and since it's apple they can do what they want. The costumers expect a certain user experience and (you can admire them on that ) they are not willing to compromise.
  • Because apple makes their own software and hardware
  • Main reason is that iPhones are same regardless of the carrier they are on. But for wp, each carrier modifies the Lumia a bit, and then each has to adapt the firmware to its phone. Not with iPhone.
  • How are you "feeling it"? It is ANOTHER 30 days of wait. Ugh. Just when I thought, if Office for iPad can be available same day as announcement, surely WP8.1 dev preview at least can be available same day. Oh wait, same week? No may be same month. Ugh, Microsoft.
  • Microsoft suck
    Im sick of wp .
  • Good. Now that you've expressed your frustration how do you feel?
  • Get tha f*ck outta here! Microsoft has delivered.....the update has been released to manufacturers! What you jumping their *sees? They cannot force the carriers to prioritize over apple if the carrier doesn't want to. I'll bet if new devices come out, the ones at the Microsoft store will probably have the update
  • Have you guys ever heard of that thing called patience?
  • Patience...No, what is it? Is it another MS product? Please tell us...
  • No. But I dated her sister Abstinence.
  • Patiently waiting for windows phone one
  • Have you ever heard of "patience wearing thin"? I have and me and alot of people are getting to that stage now from the tiring wait. :|
  • Hang on. WP8 out in October 2012. I jumped onboard in May. Two updates including Amber and Black firmware. Now another substantial update, first of 2 rumored for 2014, then WP9 due 4Q or 1Q 2015.
    Your impatience with updates to software or new devices? Sounds like the WP devices field to get crowded soon. And since I dumped AT&T firmware in September, I will not be chomping at the bit quite yet.
  • I just think it all stems back from when this update was supposed to supposed to originally be released (which was I think supposed to be last Fall to coincide with the release of Windows 8.1, both of which were codenamed Blue). So we're at least 4 months removed from that and a year and a half removed from WP8 being released.....one could see how the impatience is hard to avoid. I'm looking forward to it still and hoping that it doesn't take longer than the week that Daniel originally mentioned in his tweet about it getting delayed, but we'll see.
  • @wtrmlnjuc You mean that thing we've been accumulating for 18 months for really basic features? Then yes, we have. Thanks.
  • so nuclax, you've been here since January of this year and made 103 comments with ZERO likes or thanks.... that says a lot
  • Good catch!
  • let's take care of that for you... (it's only forum posts that can be liked or thanked, and you haven't been posting in the forum much, and he hasn't at all)  
  • I'm not so active here true but I'm overly active in WMPoweruser to the extent that Android and iPhone fans call me the derogatory word Microdick (you know for Microsoft fan?) over there. But I'm proud to be a WP fan. I came from Android although I don't hate it, I just happen to love WP more. By the way, I also do there what you're doing here. I trace people's comments to ferret out the trolls from those with legitimate grievances
  • I've hardly spent any time at WMPoweruser, I'll have to take a look over there. That name is rather unfortunate, but it's good to meet another fan.  I certainly love Windows Phone.  Oh for sure there's stuff that's missing or needs to be fixed, but it is so much more stable than the versions of Android that I was running (Eclair and Froyo) back when I had an Android.   So I am definitely a fan and it's good to meet another fan...
  • +925. Yeah I'm fed up too of waiting for another Windows Phone upgrade from Nokia. I'll pass the L930 'cos of the 4.5" screen size. Hopefully the Goldfinger is 5"+.
  • "Ultimately, it is the carriers who will roll out the updates and like previous ones that could take months" Um, no ultimately it's how fast Microsoft gets the update to the carriers that will determine how long it will take. Every day Microsoft delays handing the code to the carriers adds more days before we see it on our Microsoft Windows Phones.
  • You don't know what you are talking about. I work for a carrier. Carriers don't receive the code. Never have, probably never will. MS hands the compiled OS (not the code) to the OEMs. The OEMs install the OS and optionally add their own firmware updates. All of that is then handed over to the carriers for testing.
  • so at what point does the carrier ad their crapware?   It's not the OEM that adds the carrier crap is it?    
  • Good point! But he works for a carrier so his comment is biased. It stands more to reason that if a phone is going exclusive on a particular carrier, the OS should already have the carrier "crapware" added to the OS before it gets installed in that particular phone.
  • Sometimes they take out little features.. Datasense..or cortana for example.
    (I am still mad at att for delaying amber and the removal of data sense)
  • They removed data sense ??? Thank god I'm in India, no carrier specific phones ;)
  • I feel slighted...:)
  • +930......waiting
  • And with bated breathe..... Come on Nokia, do us proud!!!!
  • Me too. I've been waiting since December. My 820 broke (I shattered the screen) so I've been using an old Samsung Focus 2... with WP7.5. Can't wait to upgrade to the 930. Hope it's beautiful device. :)  BTW, does anyone know how much it costs to get a new screen on an 820?
  • 7.5? Not 7.8?:-o
  • It won't upgrade to 7.8.  Not sure why.
  • Use this method to update-
    http://m.wpcentral.com/tool-make-installing-windows-phone-78-update-easier
  • There's not much difference. The Start Screen on 7.8 lags on my Radar.
  • true, but the fixed sized tiles are kinda depressing in their own way...
  • Look up 820 digitizers
  • Thanks. But I wouldn't know how to install it.  Not sure if it's even worth repairing.  I could probably just buy a 520 off-contract for the same price, right?
  • Right! :D https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E45043A/ref=cm_sw_su_dp?tag=hawk-future-20&...
  • May the lords in heaven listen to thy preach, because exactly at the end of April I will be in the land of the cheap electronics (US). Me wants the digievolution to my 920. :)
  • We used to be known as the land of opportunity. How quickly things can change. 
  • Opportunity is where you see it.....maybe :D
  • Exactly. It is much harder to "see" now than before.
  • Rishicash, nice avatar picture, Metropolis yes? I used to live in LB for years.  
  • Yes on Metropolis. I love living here (near the beach) except for the filthy air and recent B&E trend.
  • CANT WAIT
  • Me too! I love how the picture's static and the tiles glide over! Literally looks like you looking through 'windows'!
  • +8.1
  • It occurred to me to take a picture on my empty hand as if ibas holding the phone, then use it as the tile backgrounds so it looks like I'm looking through the phone. I know probably not the only person to think of this...
  • you, sir, are a genius. I'm totally doing this.
  • I concur with the other gentleman, you sir, are a genius.
  • I'm going to do some sort of cyberpunk-circuitry thing. Would look like I can see inside my phone. I wish we could set it to the camera...
  • I'm hoping WPC will have a contest for the most clever uses of this new feature so we can all benefit from the cleverness and creativity of it's members.
  • I can wait and happily will. No major improvements here for me and I am happy with the 1020 as it is. I am, however, looking forward to seeing how the rollout goes as I'm sure I will upgrade at some point just to keep current. Improvements to Nokia Drive+ is what I really want the most. Traffic rerouting is all I need! They should talk to the Bing Maps team that implemented this feature in 2009.
  • 8.1 surely will be daebak!
  • Daebak really!!!
  • Daebak means awesome or a big success in korean... saving the time of ppl who were gonna bing/google it...
  • +920
  • Choding
  • thanks, i was thinking about a taekwondo kick or something
  • +920
  • Rain as in 비? Just curious... :)
  • That's my name in Hangul!
  • Sploosh!
  • Pam?
  • why isnt the search button lit? is that a 920 that you guys have?
  • That's a 1020.
  • Just noticed that i asked a stupid question, i wanted to say is that a 920 you have with WP8.1, as do you guys at wpc have it? I think the answer is yes.
    And yeah just noticed it is a 1020. :p
  • +1
  • Sam, what is that an Archer reference?
  • So what's this talk about the developer preview delay then???
  • People over anxious, expecting it next week.
  • Delayed as in they won't stand on stage at build and say "download it right this second"
  • Ot technically isn't delayed since MS never said it would be available on 2 April. We all just assumed/hoped it would be. I'm still hoping MS surprises us and makes the dev preview available within a day or two of the presentation, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
  • This rumour of 2nd April that we might get the update became so much true that we all were anxious . Hope this rumour might be heard my Microsoft too so that they can surprise us.
  • LOL! @Agent-P is technically correct but I very much like your attitude :-))
  • Can't wait for WP 8.1. It's going to be great! :D
  • Nooo end of April was hoping beginning of April... Oh well
  • Late April for the Developer Preview?! Oh fish!
  • Cannot wait for a 920 replacement. :)
  • The 920 doesn't need a replacement. It's a all around awesome phone and will have 8.1 on it and run just fine. No need to replace unless yours is broke or something.
  • I absolutely love the 920 and there really isn't anything I'd change. But I'd very much welcome an AMOLED 1920x1080 display.
  • Indeed it would be a welcomed feature.
  • Amoled sucks trust me I switched from 920 to 1020 and those black spots are driving me nuts...
  • What black spots? I also switched from a 920 to a 1020 and I much prefer the 1020's deeper blacks.
  • He's talking about the burn-in.
  • Yeahhh! :( if you go to any phone shop that has a 1020 on display you'll notice the burn in is terribly severe! It makes customers think ok well I'm not getting this one if the screen does that! You can see the text from the demo app heavily burnt in, it makes it look seriously low quality. Why have I not seen Samsung phones do this? I'd rather an amoled but with the burn in I'd rather not, my 925 also has the issue and you can see the outline of the appbar buttons permanently and the screen colours are uneven and it flickers as you scroll :(
  • I love my 928 and the AMOLED screen. Since those don't show up in any legitimate usability condition, they don't bother me.    Also, 920 is a great phone, but it's behind the curve nowadays. It needs a new SoC, and a slightly updated camera badly to stay ahead of the curve, and a new display wouldn't hurt either. There's a reason they released the Icon and the 930 :P
  • I find the camera good for me. Obviously its and "outdated" phone in terms of technology and how fast things move along nowadays but it will handle 8.1 with ease and do the job for me until it shits out on me one day lol. I agree with you though.
  • The camera trumps my girlfriends S4, so I'm pretty happy with it for the most part, sure having something like the 1020/1520/Z2/etc is going to well and truly trump it but for its age it still holds up pretty well.
  • Where do you see black spots exactly? Is it on a picture, app, video? I have a Super Amoled phone, had a Oled Vita, but don't know what you guys are talking about. I'm curious.
  • Every AMOLED screen I've used has black blotches when the screen goes dark (but is still on). The worst is probably the Vita but it happened with my Lumia 900 too.
  • I do know what you're talking about. It's a non issue really. That's like a split second thing. I remember that on the Vita. Haven't seen it on my phone though. Once you're in an app it goes back to those deep blacks.
  • I also have seen couple of straight lines in night when lights are off!! Annoying
  • I'd like it to have the 20mp camera from the Icon, and the sharper screen, but only if it doesn't prevent Glance.
  • Indeed, but still nokia needs a 5ish inch device with the new snapdragon thinner with 1080p for att to replace the segment of the 920
  • I agree with you there I suppose.
  • How come you know about his needs?
  • 2 words for ya, guitarist.... HiDef Screen.
    No, three words... Or is it two?? Hmmmmm... Either way, that is what I have been holding out for- a hi def screen (3 words?) on a 5" or there about screen. That is what emwe need when replacing a 920.... Or 900.
  • Hi def screen is nice but definitely not a must have feature. Especially for the 920.
  • Lousy camera. So much dust under the proximity sensor and the FFC that I often can't hang up calls, and I really can't ever Skype. Weighs a ton and is really thick. Battery life is really poor...although on random days can actually be awesome (so software bug?). There is /plenty/ to improve.
  • That's just YOUR phone though being a POS. Lousy camera?? Idk what kind of 920 you have but mine is an amazing camera.
  • 920's camera is good, but a bit outdated and no match to the one on the 1520 and icon, and obviously really far from the 1020
  • The 920 camera is not just dated.  It was not good when it came out.  It is not just my phone, as my phone is exactly the same as your phone because they are mass produced to exacting standards.  And by the way, I have three 920s in the family and they all take exactly the same shots.  Furthermore, when they do take their crappy shots, they are so slow.  My wife's 8X can take like four pictures in the time it takes (any of) my 920 to take one. Check out this comparison of the 920 vs. some of its contemporaries, and even a device from several years earlier: http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/17055_The_big_shootout_Nok... Obvously, the 920's not going to beat the 808, which remains the reigning champ (better even than the L1020). But you'd think it could hold it's own against the N95 from 2007.  It can't: Nokia 808 PureView (running Symbian): 53 pts HTC One (running Android): 37 pts Nokia N95 (running Symbian S60 from 2007): 36 pts Nokia Lumia 920 (running Windows Phone): 30 pts
  • Nah man the few I've owned ALL have had excellent cameras. They all take great pics and take them in a timely manner. I don't believe any of that bogus crap you just posted for a second. No shit they are all produced to "exact standards" but nothing is ever perfect. Flaws happen with anything and that included hardware. Anymore bogus excuses for you shitty experiences with the 920?
  • No, they didn't. Your pictures were mediocre. Sorry to burst your bubble. Buy I am sincerely glad that you think your phone is perfect. That must be nice for you. Not sarcasm. I consider the 920 to be a mixed bag. I love how durable it has proven to be. I like the styling. And I still think WP OS is a pleasure to use as long as you stay within its somewhat smothering confines. That said, the phone could clearly be thinner and lighter, the camera needs marked improvement, the dust issue is a serious one, and WP is horribly, horribly behind the features curve WRT the market leader, Android. Thus, I hope to see substantial improvement in future iterations of both hardware and software. I am also not willing to wait much longer for these things to happen.
  • Ask around and browse through forums here and on other sites. You'll find that alot of people got junk 920's at first and they sent them into Nokia and got replacements.
  • My 920 takes great photos. I take lousy photos by often assuming my 920 can take better photos than conditions or my ability allowed. Tain't perfect. And while I am toying with picking up a 1020 as prices for unlocked phones drop (how I grabbed this phone) the Icon seems in my zone. So hoping one of those new devices is an international version.
  • well, we know who made the camera tech in windows phone......nokia, but it is not good to speak against the Finns beloved Nokia in this forum. you moight get your head cut off.
  • I've been on this site since it was dedicated to Windows Mobile.  The important thing is to be honest, not coy. There used to be lots to like about WP, but then MS essentially abandoned it and left it to wallow since Mango (sorry, but WP 8 wasn't really an upgrade).  The feature gap between Android and WP hasn't gotten smaller since WP launched a few years ago, it's gotten larger.  And the devices that it runs on are all lacking in some way or another. WP needs a serious kick in the pants to become relevant.
  • You're an idiot. The Lumia 920 was the best camera phone in its class when it came out for OIS alone.
  • well i agree with every single word of x l'm tc, but still i like thos Phone :)
  • I have been really happy with my 920, but I am eyeing the icon/930. It offers upgrades in key areas.
  • Same here. Taking awesome pictures. Front camera is unusable though because of dust, but that's my only complaint. Best phone I have owned.
  • Well that sucks but I've owned a couple 920's since they released due to me not being able to make up my damn mind on what phone I wanted but the ones I've owned have never had any issues with lousy cameras or dust in the lenses. There are shitty 920's out there because I've seen them myself but that's when you would need to send it in and get a replacement and that was back when they first were released.
  • See, I have a buttload of dust under the front camera, but for the purposes of video calling it still works perfectly fine, people can still easily see me, it just seems to give a brownish tinge to the picture, which is kinda cool for the instagram crowd. That being said, if they have managed to fix this in later phones I am all for it as it does make my phone look messy.
  • I'm not sure honestly. I think the dust issue can just happen if it works its way in. I guess it would depend on various things such as if you are outdoors alot or have an outdoor type job or something like that. All I know is that I've never had an issue with dust or anything like that. Could be a "luck of the draw" type thing.
  • The dust went inside through the very small vents above the FFC & prox sensor. Those vents are there to prevent moisture build up. But 1st few batches of 920 don't have the foam behind the vents to filter dust. Later batches have filter and it's not a problem anymore. Btw, I use compressed air duster to blow the dust out. Not a big deal.
  • As long as it comes before EForest I'm fine ;)
  • These are exciting times...
  • can anyone tell me when we will be able to update our phones to new windows,like date or something ?
  • If you'd actually read the article, it states that there is not a set date known right now. In other words, no. No one can tell you.
  • How about you read the article?
  • You could just make an app studio account to get the developer preview. Takes no time, costs nothing. Still no date other than late April, but you will still get it a hell of a lot quicker than you would by waiting for your carrier.
  • i just did it ight now to get myself geared up as soon as Wp 8.1 is out lol
  • Yea, just read the article.....gosh!
  • Im waiting for 8.1
  • Shut up and take my money!
  • It's a free update lol ;)
  • He meant taking money for the new phone. Lol
  • What!? Those aren't free too??? ; )
  • Yeah, its free.
  • All right were do you live so I can pick it up?
  • In Studio 384?
  • Just wondering, is there a risk associated with getting 8.1 early through developer preview?
  • Not really, the developer preview is very stable, you need really bad luck to face any problems
  • And will I be able to get the OTA update when it comes out after the dev preview
  • Only if there are firmware adjustments needed by the respective OEMs to optimize 8.1 for your device.
  • I have T-Mobile. Will I still get everything like Wifi calling?
  • I have mobile as well. WiFi calling, if I'm right, is a tmobile thing. Its nice in low signal places, like my lead bunker of an apartment last year, but it screws with my data. If its on in conjunction with data, I can't open any mms messages so I just shut it off completely.
  • Does that mean that the OS Version we will find on new 8.1 phones will be exactly the same as the one in the preview??
  • Yes
  • Lacking cherry blossom pink.
  • actually the next Nokia firmware might be called Nokia Blue. http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-next-firmware-called-blue-windows-phone-81
  • Next firmware update from Nokia has to start with C, since we already had B(lack)
  • true. We had Amber, and now Black. Maybe next update could be Lumina Cherry? Or maybe theyll stay in the B's and use Lumina Blue. All speculation.
  • Lumia Cyan looks coherent and sounds good.
  • The cherry blossom pink wpc article is more recent.
  • I doubt they'll call the next update that. Just like they didn't name the last update Bittersweet shimmer. They could name is Blue, or maybe Cherry, if they continue on if aphabetical order. Or they could name is something else. All speculation.
  • Should I dump my Nokia Lumia 920 for a new Lumia wp8.1 device or just wait for the next version of iphone with a bigger screen and some revolutionary feature?
  • Youre decision ;)
  • The last time a new version of the iPhone had a revolutionary feature was 2007, so you'll likely be waiting a long, long time. I'd get a Windows Phone 8.1 instead. Fresh.
  • Oh !! Please stop. I'm dying of laughter.
  • Neither get a PO-TA-TO I Been rocking a PO-TA-TO for two days now and its great and its edible to!
  • The "revolutionary" feature will be the bigger screen. Because Apple just invented them and noone has ever had a screen > 4" :P
  • Hahahahahha
  • U got that right! Apple will claim they invented a bigger screen. He he he.
  • No they'll claim they've made a bigger screen that we've all secretly wanted that the other companies can't provide. It'll be interesting though because all the marketing for the iPhone 5 screen was about how it was the "perfect" size for your thumb motion (I remember the ads of the person holding the phone and moving their thumb around covering the whole screen). So how they plan on turning that around and suddenly making it "perfect" with a larger screen intrigues me.
  • Easy - they'll just get a big person with big hands to do the same thing. If you can't do it like he's doing it, of course you're holding it wrong.
  • no, they'll just say you were holding it wrong and if you were holding it right you could have gotten perfect thumb motion with a bigger screen
  • Just like they invented color with the 5c.
  • No. Keep the 920 as it is a great phone and will be running 8.1 just fine. If you go to an iPhone then you might as well go jump off a very high cliff.
  • Go for the revolutionary features and magical bigger screen.
  • I would keep the 920 and run 8.1 on it then wait for WP9 devices next summer. The 920 still rocks! That's what I'm going to do.
  • There is no indication that wp9 is coming out next summer.
  • Buy an iPhone? Might as well stab your self in the eyes with a steak knife.. :P
  • ouch, but I feel the same way you do
  • Depends on what comes with the 930. As far as I know, the 930 is finally a worthy successor to the 920 (neither the 925, 1020 or 1520 were).
    However it depends on what you really want in a phone. In either case, you should never switch from Nokia to Apple if you care about build quality. And OS wise you should not switch from WP to iOS. If you don't want to keep WP for lack of OS flexibility or a very big app store, you'll be better served with Android.
  • Android's not the best for apps though. While it has more than WP, there are still a lot of iOS-only apps. For my personal set of apps, Android has very little that WP doesn't. If I need something so niche that WP doesn't have a solution, then Android usually doesn't have it either. Android's sort of an unhappy medium, lacking the UI of Windows and the apps of iOS.
  • Well, you wouldn't be the first one. Apparently NOKIA is Second Most company to which people jump ship to iPhone for, with BB being the first. I was thinking about jumping to iPhone maself recently due to MS bringing a lot of their stuff over and because of the upcoming upgrade to their "revolutionary 'retina' display," but a couple of friends of mine are having trouble with theirs. One of them a lot. She's most upset about replacing the lightning chargers. She said she's gone through like 10. I've told her to buy an Apple one and she said even those gave her trouble. The other thing is the power button doesn't work at all or works sometimes. So, she can't cut her phone off. Also, freezing. The other person, I don't see much, but said he was having reception problems that he didn't have with his previous iPhone and he wanted to switch only because everyone and their momma had an iPhone.
  • I used an iphone 4 for 2 years before switching to Lumia 920. Almost everyone in my surrounding has an iphone. Viber, Whatsapp, google apps and many other apps in an ios devices are feature rich. I have a mac and iphone should match perfect with it than a Lumia 920. It always feels like a 3rd grade mobile phone user while using a Windows phone, seriously. I know this is a windows phone fanboys website but to be honest nobody here realises the weakness in wp ecosystem. CNet and TechRardar hardly discuss about windows running devices (phone and tablets). It just feels like windows presence is just diminishing. And microsoft is not doing anything remarkable to overcome the weaknesses. I like Microsoft and Nokia, as companies. They used to have great products. Now they lag far behind Apple. I have still not decided but will waiy to see WP8.1 if the features are promising or not.
  • "know this is a windows phone fanboys website but to be honest nobody here realises the weakness in wp ecosystem."   I do and I constantly get crucified for it. But that's life. If you already own a Mac, you probably use iTunes. If you already have that Apple ecosystem, then the logical thing is to get an iPhone really.
    After 8.1 and assuming all that has leaked so far materializes, iOS should become the most constricted OS of the 3 main ones. It compensates in the App terms, sure. So if your main wish is for apps and if you are already in an Apple ecosystem...then you should buy an iPhone.   But one thing you can be sure: you will NEVER find a phone more resistent than a Nokia. You'll probably feel that the moment you drop your iPhone and the screen shatters right away. But that's the price you'll be willing to pay.
  • Using an iPhone today is pretty embarrassing. The OS is a complete mess. I've used both including several flavors of Android, and I will gladly stick with Windows Phone.
  • you mean the revolutionary feature of it sucking cash out of your pocket, no wait, it already does that...  
  • SOO TRUE LOL
  • Lol. The iPhone I'd simply the go to choice for people who don't know better.
  • can't wait +920
  • +920
  • Someone needs to steal the Tardis to materialize at the end of April
  • YOU WIN THE INTERNETZZ FOR TODAY!!!!!
  • WHY ARE WE SHOUTING??
  • You're shouting too! :-P
  • If the Dev Preview is in its final stages, can't it be rolled out within the next week? I mean maybe two to three days after Build at most. I hate waiting so much.
  • Patience is a great virtue young grasshopper
  • Yeah, MS is even trying to teach me how to be patient. And that's why I love MS so much. :)
  • It seems the re-education camp did its' job on this one. I'll see you at the Chestnut Tree Cafe...
  • Lol, you should come hang out with us Verizon folks.... 4 months of new weekly leak dates for the icon, prepare for teh disappoint
  • I understand how frustrating it is for you people. Only if you had an alternative...a way to avoid the waiting. :|
  • Where does WPC get these screenshots from (the title image)? Or are they mockups?
  • Coz they have it.
  • They don't, they're mockups. If they had it they wouldn't be relying on such low quality blurry-cam leaks ...
  • @ Nik : Im pretty sure they have it but are restricted to leaking it as they are a huge community and probably it has something to do with the permissions from Microsoft whereas the cam-leaks they get are basically from low-level people who cant be identified easily. But Again I MAYBE WRONG. This is MY Understanding
  • And our souls hope that It'll be on our devices earlier. 
  • Waited this long can wait another month) hope it ends fast And also hoping it will fix whatsapp notifications that doesn't work under locked screen (when chat is opened)..
  • I hope its just as good as mango!
  • I hope this is sarcasm...
  • I think they're referring to the significance of it's upgrade when compared to the previous version. What Mango was to Nodo/WP7 before it, which I believe it will be.
  • Its gonna be bigger, papaya!
  • +1020
  • Are they gonna show preview on 2nd April or not?
  • Microsoft is showing the actual 8.1 OS at BUILD. The Preview will be available late April according to the article.
  • According to WMPowerUser, it may come on the 8th...
  • I'm waiting for reports on how 8.1 works on current devices. I want to know how well it works with my 822, my wife's 928, and the Icon, which I want to get, but am hesitant to do if new devices are likely to use all of 8.1s features. In other words, is it better to wait, or get the Icon and upgrade? I hate the aggravation!
  • New phones launching on my birthday, might have to treat myself to a 930.
  • In yours and mine too
  • Looking forward to the 1025.
  • I can't wait for the 950.
  • I'm especially looking forward to the 1430.
  • Can't wait for the 9999... Or 3310. Whichever.
  • Hurry up HTC 8X ;-)
  • I think everyone is so anxious about WP8.1 that several non developers will also set up their developer accounts just for the sake of getting WP8.1 as early as possible. :)
  • +920
  • That's what already happened before GDR3 was officially released...
  • "will" ? Already happened Lance ;) Btw, can you do the Lance Vance dance ? Jk jk
  • Please please please HTC ONE M8 WINDOWS PHONE 8.1 EDITION
  • That would be epic! But what next a gold LGG3?
  • Wpcentral needs to make their app icon smaller to make the background image visible.:P;)
  • This!
  • Use the iconic tile...
  • They should do updates like they do in Windows 8... Everything get's updated separately whenever MS pushes updates. Except here in the case of a phone, the network related updates would need carrier approval and would come out later. Boom.
    (I don't know if it can be that simple, but it should be.)
  • It should be. I think everything should be moved to apps -- dialer, people app, messaging, everything non-core -- so the carriers and OEMs have as little as possible they can lay claim to.
  •  totally agree +1020 have been saying since day one. From a software point of view i see no reason why hubs etc should affect the radios. It should all be abstracted and carriers and OEMs shoudl approve only changes at that level.
  • Definitely. We all know that the software is heavily abstracted already -- everything operator-specific is in the low-level, with APIs to the top-level apps. So operators have no need to actually have any say over the apps themselves. OEMs is a little more difficult, but they already can't change the core apps (they can only add additional features rather than modify existing ones) so these 'locked down' apps should also be out of their control.
  • I just wish that we don't have to wait long to get the update. At least phones that are carrier free should be provided with the update early.
  • Developer preview. Its free, takes a couple of minutes. Make an app studio account and your halfway there
  • So now the preview is rolling out by late April instead of just being a week late?
  • Yeah. Very sad but that's what our Daniel says. :'(
  • "Our" Daniel earlier confirmed it will be out on April 2nd or a week later, if I remember correctly.
    Daniel Dream Shatterer Rubino :P
  • That's what it says.
  • +read the goddamn article
  • it seems a bit silly to me that the dev preveiw would be released after the first batch of 8.1 devices.
  • Ready for a new phone! Have a 920 now but its time to upgrade!
  • Same here bro
  • Will it have a percentage beside the battery icon ?? I'm not seeing it in the photos!!
  • its in the action centre
  • I hope Tmo gets something new.
  • Lol by new I guess brains to take WP seriously and release the goddamn update for the 810 :P
  • in my mind Nelson Muntz is going "Ha Ha" at the thought of T-Mobile treating their WP customers well...
  • The Nokia Monarch is rumored to come. We know NOTHING about it though, to be honest it can be an Android.
  • what a false Monarch an Android would be, it must be a WP device...
  • Can't wait
  • 930 please and quick
  • Man and i thought March felt like a long month. If this report holds true then April will be longer
  • Actually, if that "late April" date turn out to be correct I'll be very very pleasantly surprised. Anyone who's been using Microsoft products for a few years is sick and tired of knowing that those "projected" dates mean absofuckinglutly nothing.
  • Lol, true on both points.
  • Just got the Lumia Icon 2 days ago. Here's hoping my wait isn't long...
  • How do you like it?
  • ... Ehhhh lol
  • Thank god for the dev preview. If I had to wait till potentially summer for the official 8.1 rollout for my phone (920 on slow-ass att), I'd probably chuck my phone thru a window! I need that swipe keyboard!!
  • Several of my friends keep asking me I'm going to replace my phone. They've been staring at my red L920 since late 2012. They are surprised to say no time soon, as 8.1 is going to make it like a new device all over again!
  • LOL you must be from crackberry.  IN other words, I'm telling you that you are delusional.
  • You might want to wait a few days! 8.1 is bigger than mango!!!!
  • interesting replies.  Rereading my post, I can understand why. lol...thanks Knob Creek.  I was trying to say that I've been faithfully using my 920 since it came out and I have no plans to replace it any time soon.  8.1 is going to help keep it fresh for quite a bit longer.
  • Common,Daniel earlier u said delayed by a week,I read it in one of your comments now you are telling to wait by the end of april!!common.....
  • Yeah very disappointing. First it was supposed to be on April 2nd and I was counting the days. Then it became delayed by a week. And now this ugh!!!
  • Agreed totally frustrating
  • Lol..I thought I ll be getting 8.1 in next four days...this sucks...
  • I think I read cortana won't work on 512ram devices, tell me it is not true please
  • That's impossible.
  • Source please?
  • Xatakawindows ( in spanish) I think
  • The only obstacle left for a lot of us now is AT&T. I'll have to temper my enthusiasm because there's no way I'm purchasing a castrated version of the 930 without Qi. I'll probably have to wait until the end of May at the absolutely earliest before getting my hands on the full, international version.
  • Yaaaaas!!!! I'm ready baby!! Except for the fact that my 1520 has been freezing on me since the last Nokia update.
  • I going to keep my 920 until the 930 drops down to 99 dollars at At&t.
  • Good call ;)
  • Still waiting for Sprint to push out 7.8 to my HTC Arrive..... actually hoping they put out some new phones so I don't have to jump to another carrier just to get 8.1 on a cool new phone.
  • Not dure how you missed it. My old Arrive has 7.8 on it. I am fairly sure it was pushed by Sprint.
  • Huzzah!!!
  • So excited!
  • Apart from what WP 8.1 will bring us I'm wondering what Nokia will bring into their new and existing device.
  • Ready to pop that cherry blossom pink? I am, right onto my 1520. Yeah, only rumors but they don't say what it is.
  • New 1520 and waiting for update.Hopefully AT&T doesn't take for ever on this update when it's ready to go.
  • Best part of this announcement is that, because of MS loosening the hardware requirements there is nothing really preventing virtually every OEM from dropping our beloved OS into their current flagship (as well as mid-tier and low-end devices) and having it ready to sell in Q2! Exciting times are coming soon...
  • Nothing except the licensing fee which Huawei was complaining about recently.
  • Some OEMs just want their cake and to eat it too.
  • No shit.... Now late april... What is it daniel... You are shifting that dev preview... Again n Again...
  • Daniel isn't sitting in Redmond right now deciding when to release the dev preview program. It's Microsoft. And plans change all the time. He's just reporting the latest information.
  • Yea Yea.... Blah blah!!!
  • And he is sitting in Redmond this time? MS has never confirmed anything. "Your Sources" are just your dreams, it seems.
  • You do know how sources work?
  • And now I just imagined Daniel sitting on a desk at Redmond, with a cat on the desk Dr. Claw-like, laughing maniacally while shifting the dates of the dev preview.
  • +1
  • +920
  • Lololololzzz!
  • Great news, would have liked it a little sooner though
  • Everyone wants good events to happen sooner. Not just phone firmware... :)
  • now this is the news we wana see. Can't wait for my new 5" device. Don't disappoint me TMO
  • Hope that HTC would push the update for the 8x fast enough since they don't have so much to add to the OS.
  • I was excited about this... a lot. Then I realized... "I'm excited for Windows Phone 8.1... we're getting wallpaper finally, yay". I had wallpapers on my Samsung F250 or s5230 years ago so... Now that I actually realize what changes we're gonna get it disappoints me a little bit. They also should've added more customization, like in Windows 8.1 you can "set up" the color you want, not a default one. Details that makes it better.
  • & I had custom wallpapers in my Nokia 3510i back in 2002.
    I get your point, but "wallpapers" are just a small part of the update ....
  • @IceDree : Yes of course I know so, but still it should've been there like... since windows phone 7 or at least 8 came out. Not as part of a "big update" now. My point is that now is a bit late for those updates unless they update really fast after this one and gets side by side with other O.Ss.
  • Maybe ... Just maybe, they didn't include it because they were trying a different approach to the UI.
    Don't worry about it, maybe this is the update that will put it "Side By Side With Other OSs"
    All we know so far is the stuff that leaked, there's more to it ... We will find out in less than 3 days.
  • Oh man! I remember being 13 years old and being totally excited for the 3510i release! As much as I am today for the LUMIA 930! 12 years have passed and I'm still the same. Guess I'll be always be :D That 3510i was amazing. I loved the 3510 design and suddenly the 3510i was announced with a colour display and new colour shells! It blew me away! I waited months for it and the day I finally saw a commercial for it on the TV saying that it was already in stores, man! One of the happiest days of my life! :D
  • Nokia E71 here.  Best phone I ever owned.  And still the best looking phone I've ever seen. Amazed at how many things that phone could do that my L920 can't, and that I can't think of a single significant thing my L920 can do that my E71 couldn't (not counting apps).
  • Ohh I remember that phone, every one I knew had one , I had to be different so I got an E75 instead lol (what a POS though). I can think of a few things my 8X & your L920 can do the E75 & E71 can't do (aside from form factor, they were the same) :p
  • Me too !!!! (the 3510i part)
    It was my first cellphone. I was addicted to switching covers & keyboards ! I had like 10 Xpress covers ... both the traditional alphanumeric keyboard cases & the "Gaming Pad" cases" , not to mention transparent keyboard, chrome keyboard, crystal keyboard .... Etc I was pimpin ;)
    I loved the 3510i a lot .... Until I traded it for an N-Gage & a 256MB card :p I still have the Rolex* cover I got for my 3510i .... Kept it for sentimental value, it was my favorite. _______
    * it wasn't made by Rolex, but it had Rolex logos & watches on it.
  • Wallpaper, you're getting worked up over that? Sheesh...
  • No way! Sweet!
  • Come on At&t - gimme!
  • Nokia 920 AT&T will get it in May......................2016
  • ouch
  • Not true at all, ATT released gdr3 and black before a lot of others.
  • It is given that to get windows phone 8.1 developer preview one will require app studio id. My question is only app studio id is required or u also require developer id?
  • You sign into app studio with your existing Microsoft account. It is one account. http://m.pocketnow.com/2013/10/14/install-windows-phone-8-gdr3-for-free Nothing special needed, it is as simple as going to the site, logging in with your Microsoft account, clicking register, downloading the preview app, logging into the app with your same Microsoft account and then checking for software updates in Settings, Phone Update.
  • If i download developer preview the can i install the final version after it is released to consumers?
  • Yes
  • Yes. And if it's like the last preview, what you're getting is basically the finished product. There was only one small update last time to bump the numbers and eventually squash minor bugs.
  • App studio id= developer id
  • I am on the fence between HTC One M8 and next Windows 8.1 flagship on at&t for my 920 upgrade. I am not sure if I would be able to hold off till late April. I wish the next WP flagship gets available in early April.
  • Waiting for the 1520 replacement.
  • Ummm take it from a HTC user. I admit it that they make a fantastic hardware, but they really don't give much attention to the software side ( compared to Nokia).
    I'm really considering Nokia for my next WP as they really give you full support and a great collection of apps that really completes the user experience. When I got to choose between the HTC 8x and the Lumia 920 (red) I picked the 8x thinking that eventually every app will be on every phone and we can all live happily ever after, but I was totally wrong there .. Just go for the Nokia if you are going to pick a WP again.
  • That's kinda Nokia's fault. "Fault" in the sense that they're paying for exclusives. Nobody else gets them.
  • They want to differentiate themselves from other manufacturers, any maybe because that WP is their only hope and ( at that time ) They have no hope other than Windows Phone. Maybe other OEMs need to step up and do much more effort to support the OS.
  • From "somewhere during the Build" to "the week after the Build" to "late April". I should stop reading news about the dev preview launch date for 8.1 or by the time it actually happens Santa will be crawling down my chimney.
  • Okay! We got it. WP8.1 is coming. Is it necessary to post it every day?
  • What an insightful comment.
  • I guess you are jealous. I understand mate, we all want it now.... -_-
  • Yes, you can always choose not to read WP8.1 articles..:/
  • There is new info in this article.
  • 930 hasn't leaked. Yet...
  • That's strange, since we are only 4 days away and we can't see a single leak of this phone. Lol we got the HTC m8 leaks about one month before the official lunch.
  • +1020
  • Wow seems faster!
  • seems more moronic
  • Can't wait to see how fast on my 2020!
  • If we will get developer preview then are we able to get the consumer update after it released to consumers?
  • Say what?????
  • Yes
  • thank you
  • Yep.
  • AT&T will begin rolling WP 8.1 sometime in late April - 2015
  • Lol
  • Sad thing is, is that he is probably close to being right.
  • Just day before MS announce WP9...
  • Hopefully this update doesn't take as long to get to the 928 like Lumia black did
  • Honestly, I wish the DEVELOPER Preview was only for developers with a account, or People with Developer device..
  • same, 8.1 is quite a huge update compare to GDR3
  • Don't wish for that. A lot of people will be hurt and disappointed.
  • That's selfish. If they sign up for a developer account and want to pay the 19 dollars a year just for updates, then let them. Its not a big deal. They don't have to develop if they just want the account for updates. Dick.
  • that's what i call a C.nt
  • And I wish some developers would have the balls to sign their comments with the name they use in the store so that we could actively boycott their apps for being selfish bastards ;)
  • I actually agree with you on this , DJCBS :) good call!
  • I would expect such petty behavior from you DJCBS (especially odd considering your professed disdain for WP & Microsoft).
  • App studio is free to everyone.
  • What would that accomplish Donnax?
    As it is now, the Dev Preview doesn't really offer much to Devs since it won't be released until about the same time as devices are released with 8.1. All it would do is alienate diehard WP fans.
    By the way, I am a registered dev center developer.
  • seems faster
  • No.
  • Really? I can't tell the difference :(
  • sorry wrong comment  
  • is being moronic a condition that is contagious?
  • Yes, patient ZERO.
  • ha ha I'm refering to the "seems faster" comment
  • Come on!!
  • Clearly forgot the part that said.. Besides Sprint expect their windows phone 8.1 sometime next year
  • Hopefully AT&T doesn't take forever, but of course they will.
  • ATT does not have a good track record of releasing updates in a timely manner. But I do hope my 1520 being the current flagship maybe just maybe.....before summer....
  • Actually AT&T was first to get GRD1, took a while for GDR2 but GDR3 wasn't too far off. Should be fine.
  • If it's any consolation, I'm still on GDR2. Just got that not too long ago and I have an Unlocked Phone. That right there should sum up that I will most likely get 8.1 Like next year and GDR3 when most of ya are getting WP8.1
  • @Daniel Thanks for the update. Though up until your informing us about the Developers Preview delay last week I was prepped to get 8.1 next week, at least having a clear time table is comforting. I currently use a 1520 and 1020. The 1520 I got free on contract(with $50 app card) during Microsofts 12 Days of Deals last December. The unfortunate point is that its only 16gigs. Fills up really quick with apps and that other storage issue. Planned on getting a larger SD card (at least 64, maybe 128) and installing apps to the card to make room on my device. I guess I have a few more weeks before I need to make that investment. Thanks again for the update. Looking forward to the big reveal at BUILD!
  • For developers when is the update
  • Dude, read the damn article!!!
  • With all these rumors and speculation I want to know fact so stfu
  • If they knew, they'd tell you in the article. Again, read! Dumbass.
  • I'm the Dumbass read half the comments here then come talk to me try to use something you have in your head
  • You need to worry less about what the comments say and more about the article, bub. Again, read the article. Maybe it will help your lil' brain grow some. Dumbass.
  • Whatever you say old man if you didn't realize some people on this chat are more reliable than that article and the people on this chat are less vague so try to keep up you old fart because I don't like to repeat things twice
  • Old fart? Lol. That's the best you got? I guess if you consider 25 old lol. The guys at WPC are very reliable and I don't think they'd appreciate users like you telling them otherwise. Yeah they make mistakes every now and then but they are rare and hey, they're human just like anyone else here on earth. Old fart...lol that's a good one, bub. I'll stick to my original comment, learn to read the articles...dumbass ;)
  • WellWell if you honestly thought I actually wasted my time to look up how old you are you got another thing coming and ya old fart is a good one your an old fart that spends his time waiting for a response on this chat well my bad I guess wrenches like you have no life to answer to
  • Dude my phone tells me when someone comments you inbred dumbass. Anything else you need help with or should we all just show you the exit door?
  • No life? Bro, I make more money than a toilet seat gets ass AND still have time to mess with smelly little dumbass trolls like yourself. Ask mom if dinner is ready, dumbass.
  • It should be available now...:/
  • Also, im not so sure about that 930 coming in April. If that actually happens the Lumia 930 is the best kept secret since Nun Lucia 3rd secret revelation to the Vatican.
  • And in the end the 3rd secret was so disappointing that I wouldn't be surprised if she invented it on the spot...:P
    (Also, there's a serious work being done to prevent leaks of the 930. It's a surprise just like the X+ and XL.)
  • Hopefully its not an icon variant.
  • Need moar leaks... So if manufacture have got already WP 8.1 ... We just should wait patiently for few days for leaking firmwares on forums...
  • Isn't the OEM version the same as the Dev Preview version? If yes, then I think the Dev Preview can be released as well if the OEMs have already got WP8.1.
  • Thts what I thought when i just read the headline.. But it says late april..
  • I think you're both right. I think the delay in the Preview Release, is more of a marketing strategy. This is the first time that there has been been a major upgrade to the Windows Phone OS (to my knowledge) where new devices boasting that new OS will be available on the market almost immediately - approx 3 weeks, and likely available for pre-order, with an accompanying marketing pitch via the media(web, TV etc) a week or two earlier.
    If MS/Nokia push the new devices initially as the only devices with the new OS, that might encourage some individuals, not bound by contract, to be enticed to by the new devices over simply upgrading thier present devices to the new OS. If the new devices are tantalizing enough some who would have been content with 8.1 on their 520/521, on 4/2/14 might actually be moved to buy a NEW device if the preview is withheld, they see ads for new devices with 8.1 on them, with maybe other specs they like. More device sales.
    Microsoft may just be hoping yo synchronize the message of the new OS debuting with new devices. We'll still get it much earlier than the carriers will ultimately release the consumer version, but I think its more to do with marketing strategy than preparedness of the OS.
  • You seem to be correct
  • Nokia Lumia 930......is coming.
  • I'm waiting for the update to the 1020 with a processor that can handle the size of the photos it takes.
  • Yes!
  • Its happeningggg
  • So it's rtm?
  • God damned carriers.
  • I have a question. Which is a greater update - Windows 8.1 or WP 8.1?
  • Windows Phone 8.1 hands down which essentially is closer to what Windows Phone 7.5 brought to the table