Anonymous Microsoft employee hints at Windows Phone 8.2 on Reddit

Windows Phone 8.1

A Redditor claiming to be a 15-year veteran at Microsoft who works on the Windows kernel platform and has sat a few doors down from Satya Nadella in years past is showing off a bunch of features of Windows Phone 8.1 and hinting at what we can expect from Windows Phone 8.2, or whatever the next update is called.

We've already been up close and personal with Windows Phone 8.1 in both official and unofficial contexts, but for those looking to glean extra features, this is a good place to go. Take it all with a grain of salt, especially since the source doesn't work directly on Windows Phone, but he did just recently delete his Reddit account, which suggests this might get him in hot water. In any case, here are some of the key takeaways from the AMA.

Software update cycles are apparently going to be a lot faster, with feature updates every 6 - 8 months, and really major OS updates every year or two. The source suggested we won't see anything akin to a file manager until after Windows Phone 8.1, which is probably one of those major OS updates he's talking about. He expects Windows Phone 8.2 or 9 to launch in 8 - 10 months and that "OMFG you are going to pop a boner" when we see what's included.

There's apparently a password you can give out to Inner Circle so that they can get through your Do Not Disturb mode with text messages. So, if they say "knock, knock" in a message, for example, you'll get a ping on your phone even if you're set to mute notifications. You can also set DND to go on hiatus if an important contact calls three times in a row.

Though Skype is the only real video option for answering calls right now, we can expect support for other video services in the future.

The music app can now read downloaded music you own, create a playlists, and add Xbox Music to the same playlist seamlessly.

You won't be able to change the default SMS app until at least Windows Phone 8.2. Speaking of messaging, there's no more Facebook in the messaging hub, though one could imagine it being added later. A new Facebook app is being written by Facebook apparently, so that's something to look forward to.

Xbox One is adding background tasks and music in about six months, which is good news for anyone trying out the universal Microsoft-made Spotify app that is supposed to be launching in a few weeks.

The source hinted that they had an "interesting plan" on how to close the gap in search between Google and Bing, though it's an uphill battle with Google's brand recognition. Unfortunately, he couldn't go into too many details there.

Hit up the source below to dive into all of the information. He's an entertaining guy to listen to, if nothing else.

Source: Reddit


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Anonymous Microsoft employee hints at Windows Phone 8.2 on Reddit



Well, reading the article again it doesn't say he was an executive, just a 15-year employee.  So, it's possible.

Chances are it could be someone who knows someone in the know and was privy to sensitive information. Wanted to seem credible who he claimed to be a Microsoft employee... Things spun put of control and decided to delete his profile in hopes that it goes away.

It was me guys

You mean a 15 year old employee? No one who's been in the industry that long talks like that. I can appreciate that WPCentral is obligated to cover this, but I promise you it's a massive steaming pile of B.S.

What??? Are you serious? I have yet to walk around anyplace where code monkeys work that didn't have an unbelievable amount of swearing. Hell, they put it in the code itself: vyralize . c o m/7772/f-bombs-and-poetry-dropped-in-ms-dos-source-code/

If these leaks are true, and it is very possible that they are, why an employee would be out there leaking features of WP 8.2 when 8.1 is not available outside of the SDK.

Need to continue building on the momentum hyping 8.1 features, not getting people frustrated of what is not making it into 8.1 right away.

Still, everything they got going now for the next update is to far away to be sure about.
This is just seems to preemptive, more an attention grab.

I'm not saying this person is a fake or the reported things are not true, but you know how the dev world works...
If you knew how many great ideas, even if finished, made it to a final build of an OS/game or any other release

Just because they are Google, no need to hate all their products. I like Google Glass and Android Wear, and Microsoft needs to get into that, as well as VR headsets for the Xbox One.

VR is a niche product that will never catch on with the mainstream consumer. Who wants to wear a big box on their face?

With 8.1 already demoed in Build what's the problem if anyone goes deep into it over net. He didn't divulged any notable secret from future versions. At least he seemed innocent to me.

If there is any truth to it then mentioning stuff like using a password for Inner Circle etc could land him in to deep trouble. I don't think any phone till now has a feature like that and I really hope this is true, would love it!

Personally, I like it. One of my biggest gripes is lack of communication from MS. Sitting in a black hole with no hint or indication of issues you have with a platform are actually being worked on is the number one reason I jump to other platforms.

Yeah but if he is not careful then he could end up getting fired. A moderator on Reddit confirmed that he has a MS badge. Well, you do get several leaks which give you an idea, I personally like it that way. Let some things remain a surprise :)

Surprises are nice but critical features which affect my ecosystem planning needs communication. If there's a plan for a file manager, awesome, I'll wait. Otherwise, I need a tablet to hotspot to get around it. Will XB1 ever be DLNA pull capable? Otherwise, I need to budget for an alternate Plex solution.

Well, you could always use Pocket File Manager on WP. I never saw much use of a file manager even on my android phone and iOS doesn't have a built in manager either. You don't see apple users complaining about the lack of it as WP users do. As far as Plex is concerned, they are working on its app for XB1.

What you need is not what everyone else needs and vice versa. It would be nice, if one of you chuckle heads could grasp that for even a weekend.

I just gave you a solution to your problem. What more do you want? If you are that disgruntled by MS then jump ship. I get that we all have different needs but given the amount of choice you have, you get something that suits you. Would be nice if you don't resort to calling others stupid.

I didn't call anyone stupid. The Plex info didn't come from MS either which is what this is about. MS not communicating.

Or you could be more patient and have more faith in MS bringing what you want. Frankly I want MS to keep everything blackboxed until the very last minute.

Faith? MS? Tell it to my Zune.

I had media capabilities with my 360. Silly me for thinking XB1 would have it out of the box. It took right up until the week before release for them to give us a straight answer on WMC.

I agree with you on that. My surround sound has no problem with my server, but XB1 can't. I don't wanna use cloud for it. Why should I waste bandwidth for something that is sitting on a different floor? And it's not just the Xbox. All native APS on the W8 platform work the same way. I can play with a desktop media player but the APS have to go through the cloud. Just stupid for a device (Xbox) that is marketed as a complete entertainment system

Don't take anyone on reddit seriously. Last time people did that everyone spread word the lumia 822 users weren't going to get Nokia Black.

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nope they are not crazy they know they are catching up and they need to be faster in order to beat everyone

We all knew they weren't going to take a vacation but its nice to know what the future may hold. Hopefully these leaks are true and released soon

Why didnt microsoft include those features for the music player in this update? ...-.- come the fuck on man, basic task any music player should have nowadays

Xbox Music is a separate app now. Updates to it aren't dependent on OS updates. I'm sure you'll see that much sooner.

If they did it properly, it wouldn't just be the app. It would go hand in hand with the synching software on PC... Which, by the way, is currently in a state akin to that of a steaming pile of sh*t.

"...until at least Windows Phone 8.2"
I'm assuming that you're being sarcastic here though. Sinking ship over this? :P

Yes and i waited this feature the most, got really dissapointed right now... FB chat integration was the thing which made my final choose on WP8(even thought it sucked balls compared to fb messenger) and now it's gone...

I'll agree that the platform is not perfect but I for one wouldn't jump ship for that reason. There's other things I would like to see improved first.

I seriously doubt seeing 8.2 in 6-8 months, but if it really happens then that's all Microsoft really ever needed to do for WP to really take off..

Windows 8.2 and Windows Phone 8.2 are both coming in Q4 2014! Its the same timeframe for Intel 5th generation Broadwell architecture and NVIDIA Maxwell architecture to launch Q4 this year.

NT 7.0 (Windows 9) not ready RTM till Q4 2015 by the way it's 64-bit only platforms!
Intel 64

Its not 'they', per se. This is one employee who took it upon himself to leak in an AMA. He decided to do this, for whatever reason.

Tried to ask on that reddit, seems removed. Account shows as "deleted". Maybe a wannabe impostor?

The original WMPU article about this from yesterday said that Reddit 'verified' him - not sure what exactly that means.

This guy is toast. He clearly broke the company NDA and also made arrogant remarks about his division. He hinted blatantly at projects he shouldn't have and showed a.screenshot if his phone and hotmail account name..I wonder who has the ability to look into a hotmail account. ?. .guy was trying to impress people for imaginary internet points and now will be dealt with by Microsoft
I have a PDF of the post if anyone wants..knew he would try to delete it..

Can you help me choose my next phone? What is the current top of the line nokia (including l930)? I know it's early, but is the most expensive will have access to the next Windows Phone (eg 9)?

I enjoyed the 930...

Every WP device is guaranteed at least the next major software version, as well as 3 years total software support from Microsoft.

Too lazy to type, may I recommend WPCentral forums? Tons of threads for your enjoyment. Grab a cup of tea and join in.

Facebook app and file manager were supposed to come with WP 8.1 and now the story of 8.2 came out of nowhere and which wont happen until next year..Wow great Microsoft..Hats off..You are so Fast.

I don't think a "file manager" was ever supposed to be partr of 8.1 A file picker maybe.

Buat what would you need a file manager on WP for?

Controlling save data so it could be backed up when changing devices. Also to change meta data on mp3's so we could fix wp's shithouse music grouping structure.

WP's grouping structure is fantastic sir, and its called a "C-O-M-P-U-T-E-R" if you dont have one, then I have no idea why your even in the tech market. There is no reason that resources better spent on much much more important things should be wasted on such a niche and generally useless "feature" that many noobs will use to fuck stuff up and start spamming microsofts support and complaining about how bad WP is.


WP os better with out one.

I don't know how many times I've had to say this but it appears people are too stupid to understand so I have to go through it again. If you have an album on your phone that includes tracks with different genres it will split the album. This is fucking stupid, if I am in the ALBUM tab I expect the phone to group by album, not fucking genre, if I wanted that I would go to the genre tab.

as a result I have had to remove genre tags from some albums (by plugging the phone into my PC and fixing it through there) just so I can listen to them start to finish. Either they could fix their shithouse grouping system or at least give me the option of fixing it through the phone rather than forcing me to go to the PC.

Besides all this if there is a file manager NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO USE IT! The people who want it can utilise the tools and everyone else can continue using their phone as they were. I simply cannot understand why people are actively fighting against more features in their devices, if you don't want new features just never update your phone because, apparently, it's perfect.

The problem with giving such advanced tools, is that people as a whole are stupid, people will use it and move stuff around and delete stuff and cause the os to break something (maybe they moved their pictures, so now the images hub no longer sees them, or they move their videos, etc.) in which case, they'll blame the OS, spread that around and give it a bad name.. all because they were given access to something they had no reason having access to to begin with.

and idk what you did, but that doesnt happen here either, it always puts album as a higher priority than genre..


and also, there IS such a thing as to many options, if you just put every feature you can possibly think of into a product, in the end youll end up with a clusterfuck. you pick a vision, and you add features that support that vision, In this case, the vision is simplicity, which a file explorer clearly does not fit in with.

AND, even if there were a file explorer on WP.... why do you think that would let you change metadata? More than likely that would be another app on its own (and also be the safe way to accomplish this) so I once again repeat: A file manager is a waste of resourses and time on an OS that easily needs them in more important places.

I couldn't find anything about rooms. Are those changing at all? My only complaint about them now is that I cannot send a message with voice to speech to someone IN a room. Otherwise, if it got a speed boost, it is pretty great.

That software cycle is the same one we are on now. Updates every 6 months and a major update in 18 months! That's the history of WP8 so far.

I'd be more excited if MS delivered them directly, without letting the Carriers slooooow the process down.

I read the post, and he said that the update in Nov-Dec, was going to be a MAJOR, not a GDR.

I think he contradicted himself though. Saying Major updates would be every 12-18 months as well. Lets hope that was a little off.

Actually, that feature about getting through Do Not Disturb mode with a "password" sounds very good. Unfortunately, now that it has been leaked (if it turns out to be true) I can see Apple and Google copying it.
Speaking of Messaging, I've been asking around, is Messenger still built in the Messaging Hub in WP8.1?

If you mean fb messenger the mcsft employee said in this very reddit conversation that its gone. Get used to 2 different apps

No. Microsoft messenger/Live Messenger/Skype messenger. The one that was cooked into the OS. The one that Rooms rely on. The one where you cant make anymore new friends since the death of Live messenger.

"you are going to pop a boner"
Yeah, sounds like a real professional. If he does work for MS he should get in trouble for representing the company by talking like a teenager playing co-op on Xbox.

I said basically the same thing in the WMPU comments last night and got jumped. "You obviously don't know any devs 'cause that's how they talk." The fact that he talks that way seriously makes me doubt anything he said. I doubt MS would trust someone like that with such critical information. If they did, this is what it got them.

You know, its kinda crazy, but yes, the company may actually be getting off of their lazy behinds and making an app for their own userbase.

And I'd be shocked if it's nothing more than what other OS's have... which is nothing special. And nothing worth taking it out of the WP OS for.

I know I'm going to sound like Negative Nancy, but it's about damn time! For Windows Phone to be taken seriously by more than just diehard fans, it needs to have 110% feature parity with the competition. It's embarrassing when a smartphone in 2014 is missing basic features that the incumbents have had for years! Hopefully Nadella lights some more fires in asses and gets Windows Phone to a point where people can, in good conscience, recommend WP over iOS or Android...

I can whole heartedly recommend WP to anyone over iOS and, especially, Adroid because it is without question superior to those o/s-es.

Remember: from now on Microsoft's goal is to be a "Mobile First, Cloud First" company.....meaning that it will prioritize those two key elements! good things are coming :)

The employer said that the WP team got their asses handed back to them so that they'd start developing WP with the pace of Windows and Xbox.. Maybe Satya is behind this?

His credentials aside, one thing that is clearly apparent from the recent developments showcased at //build/ tells that there is even more closer collaboration amongst various teams in MS to hopefully realize the holy grail of having ONE Microsoft soon enough. Most of his claims could actually be true and its a well known fact that the teams plan updates way into the future. What translates into reality is a different issue though. I think the 6-8 interim release cycle could be legit and as Windows continues to evolve, WP and other teams must keep pace. This could lead to better response times to user feedback and ultimately more and better apps. I am waiting for the WP 8.1 Dev Preview to hit the servers to savor all the improvements.

Just me who picked up on the fact he said the new Spotify app is coming within a week? PLEASE DON'T BE LYING TO ME.

Subreddit mod confirmed him to be a Microsoft employee (apparently) I'm putting my trust in to this one :P