Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1

Microsoft reveals Update 1 for Windows Phone 8.1, due next week for Preview users

Microsoft unveils Update 1 for Windows Phone 8.1. Here are all the details.

As expected, Microsoft is finally revealing all there is about Update 1 for Windows Phone 8.1. Known internally as GDR1 for 'general distribution release,' this update is one of two for the 8.1 operating system in 2014. The news comes out of Beijing, China where Microsoft's Joe Belfiore announced the release during his keynote, in addition to the expansion of Cortana to the UK and China.

Update 1 is relatively minor in comparison to what 8.1 delivered this spring, but it still contains numerous new features for consumers, and hardware manufacturers. Leaks of these features in Update 1 came over the weekend and were accurate.

Additionally, starting next week, those enrolled in the free Preview for Developers program are slated to get an update to their phones to take advantage of the new OS refresh.

Live Folders

Revealed earlier by Microsoft on accident, Live Folders allows users dynamically to create folders on the Start screen. Microsoft calls these "Live" folders because whatever app or game is included in the folder still has their Live Tile enabled. In other words, your group of Tiles in the Folder Tile still reflect pushed updates, making them highly dynamic.

Although Microsoft appreciated the effort by Nokia in offering their App Folder app, Live Folders is "more consistent" with their design philosophy by continuing the Live Tile paradigm that began with Windows Phone 7.

Folders get created by dragging and dropping Tiles on top of each other, and they can later be renamed or rearranged according to user's needs.

Xbox Music Live Tile and performance improvements

Microsoft and the Xbox Music team are continuing to improve and refine the Xbox Music app. Starting with Update 1, the new OS allows the Xbox Music team finally to implement a Live Tile and Kid's Corner, which are features due in a couple of weeks.

For users who do not enroll in Update 1 Preview, they can continue to get the bimonthly updates, including one due this Friday that brings some significant performance improvements and a "quickplay" of recent playback activities.

Windows Phone Central has more details about this forthcoming update later this week, including an interview with members of the Xbox Music team. Stay tuned.

SMS merge and forwarding, Live Tile for the Store

Update 1 also brings a few other improvements, including SMS merge and forwarding, which gives users "the ability to select multiple SMS messages for deletion and forwarding."

In addition, the Store Tile is now a Live Tile, delivering info about the latest apps and games every six hours throughout the day. This behavior now reflects the Store Live Tile for Windows 8.1.

Apps Corner

Perhaps one of the more interesting, if not niche, additions to Update 1 is Apps Corner, which Microsoft describes as a "sandboxed" mode for users to show only a select amount of apps. Considered more for businesses and retailers, Apps Corner lets employees hand their Windows Phones over to customers without fear of exposing personal data, launching unauthorized apps or where there is no Master Data Management (MDM).

VPN through Wi-Fi hotspots, High-voltage charging, Smart covers, Improved IE compatibility and more

To close, Update 1 brings a new assortment of options and improvements, including VPN functionality through a public Wi-Fi hotspot, and improved IE rendering of mobile websites. The latter works by changing the user-agent string to let websites connect Internet Explorer as if it were a different mobile browser, greatly enhancing mobile usage and compatibility for Windows Phone users.

Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 support for Snapdragon 800 processor is included, letting Windows Phone users with the appropriate chipset take advantage Qualcomm's rapid, high voltage USB charging. Consequently, charging times should be upwards of 75% faster. Citing Qualcomm's data for a 3300 mAh battery, you can see the difference in the table below:

Support for Smart covers, like HTC's Dot View case, lets OEMs create unique flip cases that activate an app or Live Lock screen when open or closed. There are rumors of an HTC One W8 Windows Phone, complete with a Dot View case to take advantage of this feature in Update 1.

Update 1 also brings advanced support for Bluetooth standards PAN (personal area network) 1.0 profile, aptX codec support for A2DP, and browsing support for AVRCP. These new standards give customers better streaming and compatibility for Windows Phone media.

Finally, more support for device resolutions are in Update 1, including 1280 x 800 WXGA, 540 x 960 native qHD and screen sizes of 6.01" to 7" for the 1280 x 768 WXGA resolution. These changes are for OEMs who would like to leverage their existing supply chains from other equipment lines to make Window Phones, reducing costs and expediting releases.

More to come

Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1 comes on the heels of the Windows Phone 8.1 refresh, and it shows a significant step up in speed from Microsoft. Considering the vast majority of Windows Phone owners have yet to received the official 8.1 rollout, the idea that the Update 1 preview is ahead of the official release is an interesting turn of events.

Questions remain whether or not all of these features and improvements meet the needs – and wants – of users, but it does appear Microsoft is in overdrive mode. Rumors of an Update 2 for Windows Phone 8.1 due later in November are still circulating, making this the most rapid release cycle yet for Microsoft's mobile OS.

Regarding the current hold on Lumia Cyan updates for those on the Preview program, Microsoft is planning on a fix for that for users, though they currently have nothing to report on the matter.


Windows Phone 8.1 Update 1 for the Preview for Developers program is expected to begin sometime next week. Keep checking Window Phone Central for more information about when that happens, or head into our dedicated forums to discuss the Preview program and Update 1 if you have any questions.

Also, remember to use the Windows Phone UserVoice page from Microsoft to suggest and vote for your favorite features. Decisions about the OS live and die on UserVoice, so make your voice heard. Learn more about Microsoft's UserVoice initiative here.

Source: Windows Phone Blog


Reader comments

Microsoft reveals Update 1 for Windows Phone 8.1, due next week for Preview users



Looks like most lumias will get GDR 1 before cyan then getting cyan will backtrack the changes of GDR1 right?

Cyan is a firmware update. Gdr1 is an os update. Theres a huge difference.
Short answer to your question is- no, it won't.

How? Cyan is for Lumias only. GDR 1 is For all windows phones running WP8.1. Your Reasoning will reslut in GDR 1 only being for Lumiasn and it isnt

Your logic makes no sense as there is no logic at all to your statement. OS updates do not require firmware ones, otherwise dev preview users would not have been able to use 8.1 before Cyan, since according to your thinking they're being released together and thus must need each other.

We'll get this update 1 on all WPs and our Lumias will get Cyan whenever fixes are in place. Easy to understand.

The best bet would be to downgrade from 8.1 preview to 8, upgrade to Cyan, then reactivate developer preview and update to GDR1

MS is working on a fix for the PFD. Until then Cyan is on hold (if released in your Country or Carrier) for those on the PFD.


There is so much misinformation being spread. If you don't yet have Cyan (assuming you have a Lumia, since no other phone will get Cyan), you have two choices.

1. Downgrade your phone to 8.0 and upgrade with the OTA update, not the preview (assuming the OTA is available for you phone at this time).

2. Wait for Microsoft to fix the problem and start sending it out again.

As for needing Cyan to get GDR1 preview? No. Since Lumias are the only phones that will EVER get Cyan, how can it be a requirement for GDR1? Answer: It can't. Of course, there may be features in the OS upgrade that require certain capabilities in the firmware, but that just means that those features won't work without those firmware capabilities. You may have to wait for Cyan (or a similar firmware update from OEMs other than Nokia) for those particular features, but the OS upgrade will work otherwise.

Since the firmware update (Cyan) and the OS update (GDR1) are updating two different parts of the whole phone, it is not necessary for them to be installed in any specific order, unless for some reason MS decides to put that requirement on the OS update, which is possible. So no, if you already have GDR1 installed, you will not have to uninstall it in order to install Cyan when it comes out for your phone.

Misinformation about Windows products is a must. It can not go undone. It's the only reason Windows 8.x had such a bad reputation, besides lack of proper advertisement.

Hopmedic is 100% correct about Cyan and WP8.1 and GDR1.

So stop with the BS.

Well, I've read reports of people not being able to update firmware (Amber to Black) when installing a newer OS (8.1DP) than the one that goes with Black, and effectively being stuck on Amber until Cyan release (unless downgrading). By this logic, installing 8.1 GDR1 on Black without waiting for Cyan would be an issue.

But isn't 8.1 a requirement for GDR1? And since Cyan is coming bundled with 8.1 it means they need it first anyways. If they don't want to go DP, that is.

Yes. 8.1 is a requirement. But cyan is not. Those of us running the developer preview have 8.1. We will be able to get the GDR next week, even without having Cyan. If you don't go DP, you won't get GDR until it is released to the public, probably late this fall. I read somewhere that November was a target, but don't remember where I read it and don't know how reliable it is.

In multiple deletetion shows "chat on facebook"..can we chat on facebook in inbuilt messaging app of phone in wp 8.1 upgrade 1..& is this same as wp8...please someone reply...i wanna know it eagerly

No, you can´t... Personally I think it sucks, but WP 8.1 comes with a ton of other features so it´s still worth updating. 

There is NO reason at all you would have to downgrade. You upgrade your OS to update 1 (just like you did with 8.1 dev preview) and you can upgrade firmware later when they fix the phone locking bugs. Completely different processes.

Microsoft is requiring all Lumia devices to downgrade to WP8.0 before upgrading to Cyan.  Therefore, you will be able to upgrade to GDR1, but once your carrier releases the Cyan update, you will have to downgrade your phone back to WP8.0 before you can upgrade to WP8.1 with Cyan and then after you have upgraded to WP8.1 with Cyan, you can reupgrade your phone to WP8.1 GDR1 Developer Preview.  Kinda sucks, but if you want the lastest and greatest...


Also, if anyone out there is NOT familiar with upgrading and downgrading software to their phone, DON'T INSTALL THE DEVELOPER PREVIEW!  Developer Previews usually have problems.  That's why we are "previewing" it, to find the bugs and problems and report them to Microsoft so they can fix it before it goes public as a final version.  If you don't know how to downgrade your phone or utilize "work-arounds" for issues, then DON'T INSTALL THE DEVELOPER PREVIEW!   If you do install the Developer Preview anyway, then don't complain about issues on these forums.  Report them to Microsoft and wait for the fix.

"Developer Previews usually have problems."

Totally wrong.

There have only been two Developer Previews released for WP, GDR3 and Windows Phone 8.1. They were not released to "find the bugs and problems", that's what the Beta versions were for, and Previews were NOT beta. The Preview for Decelopers program is for the public and is safe. It is not some untested beta code they are releasing on the world. They were public releases, only ahead of and independent of the carrier releases.

Both were the exact same versions as the subsequent official releases. They had no preview-related issues, until the Bitlocker/Cyan update issue which may or may not be Preview-related (it might just as well be an issue with official WP8.1 as well for all we know), or be an issue with the Cyan firmware.

So saying they "usually" have problems is simply wrong. 

No, you are the one who is "Totally wrong."The developer preview is exactly what is says it is by name, a DEVELOPER PREVIEW.  It is NOT as you say, "for the public and it is safe."  It is released to developers to test their apps (existing and new) on the operating system to catch any bugs and problems that may exist with their apps and APIs.  It is by no means a "finished product ready for distrbution to everyone."  It may, in fact, end up using the same code by the time it goes out as a "FINAL RELEASE," but then again, there may also be some API changes made for app developers.  This is why Microsoft warns you that it may "void your warranty" on some devices, because it is NOT a finished product ready for mass distribution.  Otherwise they would just release it to the public without ever doing a developer preview.  I have a Lumia Icon and had the 928 as well.  I did the developer preview on both phones and had some "issues" with both.  Delay in waking from power button, speaker issues, screen brightness issues, lag.  All issues I experienced as well as others, so for you to declare there are "no issues" with the developer preview is TOTALLY WRONG!  If you dont' believe me, BING IT!

Yet all evidence points to the 8.1 dev preview actually being the same as RTM and its been strongly hinted that this is the "enthusiasts program" in disguise. Plus many of the DP problems are still present with the official update so yeah, there's nothing making it specifically for developers apart from the name.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I'm not even going to respond to this idiocy again. There's plenty of info about the DP being the exact same version as the release (see Daniel Rubinos article about the release of the 930 for example).

I never said it couldn't be the same as the final version.  I said it MAY NOT be the same.  It is a DEVELOPERS PREVIEW.  NOT A FINAL RELEASE.  There CAN be changes between the two, but MAY NOT be changes.  The PURPOSE of the Developer Preview is so app developers can test their apps to ensure they work properly BEFORE the FINAL RELEASE goes out.  IF a developer has a problem, they can contact Microsoft who can either help them adjust their app or make slight changes to the API for them to allow what they are trying to do.  OBVIOUSLY if MS changes a few APIs, then it CAN'T be the same OS as initially put out as DP, because MS changed some things.  Common sense!  You are the one who has no clue what you are talking about. 

I never said it couldn't be the same as the final version.  I said it MAY NOT be the same.


Sure, theoretically the versions could be different. And at least you're correct that the DP is released early primarily in order to allow developers (who are part of the public... there's nothing special about a Developer in this program, not even a small fee is needed) to try out their apps.

But the versions so far haven't been different, which is what you implied when you wrote

Developer Previews usually have problems.  That's why we are "previewing" it, to find the bugs and problems and report them to Microsoft so they can fix it before it goes public as a final version."

Since the DP version didn't have any issues different from the actual release, had the same version numbers and weren't beta, why would you write that?

But yeah, in your made-up version of the Preview releases maybe they were Betas. Since nobody else uses your own fantasy version of the DP program, it seems irrelevant. 

"Since the DP version didn't have any issues different from the actual release, had the same version numbers and weren't beta, why would you write that?"

Because it didn't have the same version number.   The initial Developer Preview was updated back in May to FIX THE ISSUES DEVELOPER USERS REPORTED TO MICROSOFT.  Check out this page....

It even states in this article that the first version is a BETA version.   Read it, get educated. 


Not very hard at all.  In fact, I've found four more articles from "nobodies" that show the versions are DIFFERENT.   The version you refer to in your article is Build 12397.  The PREVIOUS VERSIONS of the OS were 8.10.12382.878 and before that 8.10.12359.845.  Dispite what you say, these are NOT the same OS versions.  There are changes and updates to each verstion before the FINAL RELEASE.  Which is what I have been saying all along.  The INITIAL Developer Preview may, or may not remain the same.  That is why Microsoft releases it as a developer preview.  But that does NOT guarantee it will be the FINAL RELEASE.  Changes will most likely be needed.  Links to articles below:

I guess these "nobodies" are misinformed as well.


What are you talking about now? I have no idea anymore. Of course the DP gets updates. I got one too for it. You don't need to prove that.

That doesn't mean it's beta, like the guy you originally quoted thought (and was wrong about).

OK now I'm really done, because this is stupid.

What are you talking about.  I never claimed it to be a BETA.  YOU DID!  My original comment that you so rudely and incorrectly commented on was:

Also, if anyone out there is NOT familiar with upgrading and downgrading software to their phone, DON'T INSTALL THE DEVELOPER PREVIEW! Developer Previews usually have problems. That's why we are "previewing" it, to find the bugs and problems and report them to Microsoft so they can fix it before it goes public as a final version. If you don't know how to downgrade your phone or utilize "work-arounds" for issues, then DON'T INSTALL THE DEVELOPER PREVIEW! If you do install the Developer Preview anyway, then don't complain about issues on these forums. Report them to Microsoft and wait for the fix.

To which you commented:

They were not released to "find the bugs and problems", that's what the Beta versions were for, and Previews were NOT beta.

I NEVER claimed it to be a BETA product, I said DEVELOPER PREVIEW.  You said BETA.   I was merely stated that the Developer Preview MAY not be the FINAL RELEASE as it may contain 'ISSUES'.  Given my article links, I've proven that correct as there WERE different DP versions correcting issues.

I agree, this is STUPID.  You're like a US Republican Congressman.  Impeach...impeachable acts, lawlessness needs impeachment - turns to - no one is talking about impeachment, the Democrats started this to arouse their base.  Republicans never even mentions impeachment.   REALLY!?  Replace "impeach" with "BETA" and that's your comments dude!  Now you give it a rest.

EDIT...really sorry. I just saw you guys were done. No need to add possible fuel to the fire. Enjoy your day!



I would imagine that doing the official upgrade to 8.1 (downgrading from 8.1 to 8.0, then updating via OTA update to 8.1), which gets you Cyan, and then re-activating the Preview for Developers program on your phone will allow you to run Cyan and the GDR1 preview together.

You will get cyan when it is released for your phone. It is put on hold for preview users as there was discovered issues. You will get cyan eventually even if you upgrade to gdr1.

It's not the update process. Cyan has a bug that won't allow it to properly install on devices exceeding Windows Phone version 8.0 GDR3, thus requiring the downgrade. Microsoft is working to fix this so you either downgrade then re-upgrade (Cyan installs along side 8.1), losing all your files and non-restorable data (downgrading requires flashing the firmware, which resets the device), or you wait for Cyan to be patched, at which point Microsoft will release to the carriers to replace the current Cyan firmware, and to which then will be pushed to everyone including those running 8.1 -sans Cyan via the Preview.

The funny thing is, were still in PFD 8.1 without Cyan and were gonna update to GDR1. Will there be any instability within the OS?

Only instabilities will be from the OS being in preview itself. None should arise from lacking Cyan rather than perhaps the missing "increased performance" of the device.

Something that's a misnomer is that most of these "OS" features that are "included in" Cyan are actually 'System Apps' that most merely require the operating system being pushed along side the firmware. For instance, I have practically most of, with exception to a few, of the "features" from black and Cyan, with the only exceptions being firmware reliant software & settings (Beamer, new PlayTo, for examples), on my 810, and I'm using Amber firmware. After updating through the preview, the store notified me of updates to almost every single Nokia system app, which unlocked all but a few apps and features. As such, this goes to show that the firmware does much less then what they are marketed as doing, really only increasing performance and unlocking a few minor features, settings, and apps.

So no. No instabilities [caused by lack of Cyan]

Are you sure about that? Because I remember reading not long ago during all the Cyan hype, that for some people Black wasn't released on their carrier until after the release of 8.1DP. But with 8.1DP installed on Amber, they haven't been able to update to Black, since the OS build of the 8.1DP is newer than the one included in Black...

Unlikely. The OS updates are not "included" in the firmware but rather pushed alongside the firmware by the carriers. For instance, those who were running 8.0 GDR3 with Amber (such as myself w/ my old 521) only recieved Black OTA, sans-GDR3 update.

However, I suppose it is possible that Black had a similar issue as to Cyan, where installing Black on an OS surpassing that of the one pushed alongside previous firmware caused issues. But, as neither Microsoft nor Nokia made any confirmation of such an issue as they did Cyan, it is unlikely, imo, that this is the case.

I was discussing this on Reddit and one user now confirmed that he did indeed install 8.1 DP on Amber and is now stuck on Amber even though his carrier has released Black.

It's actually likely that all firmware updates are halted for 8.1 users. If the user tried retrieving black after the Cyan issue was found, its very possible Microsoft prohibited any carrier updates for those running 8.1 sans-Cyan, even for devices to which only black or earlier are available.

However, if the user tried before Cyan was even released on ANY carrier, when only Black was available, then I'm at a loss. I'd recommend the user verify that firmware was indeed released for their device (some think that when a carrier releases firmware such as Black or Cyan, they release it for every device, to which isn't always the case), and that the device they use is indeed one sold by their carrier (some also fail to understand that even though the carriers "push" the updates, the updates are on Microsoft's servers, and since each device by a carrier has a different firmware {technically}, once an update is "pushed", the server checks the carrier to which the device is intended for and pushes the update accordingly. So even though you may be using a unlocked device on carrier X, the device still relies on carrier Y, to which the device was made for, to push the update)

Was in May, when I was on DP, that my network provider released the black. (i had DP since it's first release)
At that time, i was running amber with 8.1DP.
My phone wouldn't get the Black firmware, I had to downgrade it, get the black, and then install DP again.
Lumia 620

But what if you have Cyan and get GDR1 via the dev preview will Cyan features like BT LE be removed like was the case with the 8.1 dev preview?

No. If you are running Cyan & 8.1 and update via PfD to GDR1, you will not have an issues.

The upgrade issues ONLY centered around Cyan being uninstallable on devices using both 8.1 sans-Cyan AND specific-Security functions of 8.1. Features were not "lost" but rather had to be disabled to install Cyan on 8.1, and as such Microsoft's requirement to downgrade to 8.0 GDR3 to install 8.1 alongside Cyan is only a temporary workaround until Microsoft can successfully patch the Cyan firmware to install with these aforementioned features enabled.

MS said it would brick the device if preview users updated to cyan!! So plz shed some light on the topic!!

The problems were pretty much restricted to those users who were using Bitlocker. I updated my DP 925 to Cyan without any issues before Microsoft discovered the Bitlocker issue and restricted the update to non-DP devices.

Only devices attempting to install Cyan on top of 8.1 (received via PfD) that have certain security features enabled (such as BitLocker Encryption) have any issues, as this is a bug with Cyan, not the OS (to which currently, the version being pushed by PfD is 8.1 Release, not a preview edition). As such, those wishing to receive Cyan now as opposed to after the firmware has been patched are required to downgrade to 8.0, followed by receiving 8.1 alongside Cyan via their carrier of choice.

Installing GDR1 however will have no issues (as far as the information available is concerned) in relation to either having or missing the Cyan firmware. However, as the bug still exists in Cyan, the firmware will still be withheld from PfD users WHO DO NOT HAVE CYAN until such a time that the firmware is patched.

I'm not so sure Dan. My 620 is one WP 8.1 DP/ Amber. The Black update is available for my phone, but I'm not able to update. (+this was before MS stopped updates for DP). Do you think it has something to do with the change in O/S?

It could be due to version checking - it's expecting a specific string (ie 8.0) but finding 8.1, so it refuses to update it.  Some programs in Windows that use MSI installers work on the same principle.  They enforce a version check and if it exceeds what it expects then it won't install.

One example I can confirm of this is trying to install Doom 3 via CD on XP x64 edition.  Because it reports version 5.2 (due to it sharing codebase with Server 2003) it refuses to install, because it expects 5.1 (which is XP) or 6 and higher.

The firmware doesn't require a particular version of the OS to be installed, even with GDR1 installed, you can still receive the Cyan update (at least, if they get the Bitlocker bug fixed).

Gotcha! besides that point, regarding top notch cases, we Lumia owners are left to the dust! Damb you OEMs! Damb you!

Owners of premium lumias don't need cases the phones are beautiful when naked, my black 1520 is fabulous especially when somebody else is holding it and I am not ready to put cases on it

Agreed. Applies to pretty much any WP, really. I rarely have a case on my 8X because the device is so beautiful and is sturdy enough for everyday hazards.

It says "Chat on facebook" on their screenshot of the messaging app. Does this mean the integration is coming back?

Really hope so. I loved that feature, and if they're putting it back in they might fix the thing where it sends you multiple notifications for the same message (i.e. one for the SMS app and one for the FB Messenger app).

Easily fixed - turn off notifications in the FB Messenger app.  Same if you have the non-beta version of FB installed.

Sam, will we in 8.1 PFD receive update 1? Or, update 1 is just for people with Cyan installed? Anyone can help me?

Yes, from my point of view we will need 8.1 PFD n its not fir people with cyan installed cos its a preview for developers, not for the people without PFD. :)

next week, couple of weeks, couple of months, next months. carrier ristriction, bugs, lagging, battery life worse, heating, crashing, too many bad news about WP 8.1 recently. Not sure if this rumors are true, or just to cover up the bad perspective about the OS..  Most of the time we have been cheated with the 'speed improvement'' of the OS + apps. I don't believe any of the improvement made by WP team. Just give me the damn update of WP 8.1. Don't ask me to try out Developer Preview bull-shit.

Welcome to technology where any and all problems get blown out of proportion no matter how few people are actually affected. Also, it makes no sense to complain about the preview as it was entirely optional
and done as a favor to those of us who hate waiting. I'm not going to explain why updates go through carriers as it has been explained why again and again and again to the point that people are just asking hoping the answer will magically change.

Quoted previously:

Myth: Because cariers don't work with Microsoft.

Myth no 2: Because carriers want to control phones.

Popular Myth no 3: Because carriers don't want to lose reputation helping their customers because of Microsoft's fault.

Fact: Because Microsoft produces lots of bugs in their OS and they want to filter out angry customers from updating the new OS.

Learn the fact, not the myth. the myth will always be the myth.


Going to ignore your "fact" because, unless you have proof, it's coming out of your hind end. Also going to ignore myths one and three because last I checked those weren't official reasons either. "Myth" number two however is reason number one for slow updates, at least here in the US. Upgrading people to a new phone to get them on a new two-year contract by banking on them being impatient for new features instead of waiting for their current handset to be updated is a huge reason why we get them so slowly. Argue it if you want but that's the way it is. By the by, the nice thing about being in the Developer Preview is that we get to give feedback about bugs and such before the update is pushed out officially. It makes me wonder if you bothered to give any or did you just complain that preview software wasn't perfect out of the gate even though MS stated up front that it was still being worked on.

^ This. I totally agree with the facts about carriers. Still I also agree that MS doesnt have proper strategy for upgrade releases....because, again its a fact that unbranded phone has not received the Cyan update while branded ones have it, so something odd from MS side as well. May be some strategy.

What you said: "Don't ask me to try out Developer Preview"

What everyone read: "I don't want to have to use a beta service to get new features in advance with good performance and no bugs"

It's not beta. It's the final RTM bits. The version people are getting OTA is simply a later post-rtm build with even more fixes, just like GDR1 but without the extra features.

Oh man, you cannot be serious. Are you? I can't believe you're referencing wikipedia as a fantastic source of facts that applies en masse to any software development. Maybe before you question somebody on anything you should try to educate yourself on the topic. Dev Preview program is not based on betas, but on final versions. If you need a source - you could look it up yourself you know, this is general, widely and freely available knowledge - simply check Paul Thurrott's coverage, only the most reknowned journalist covering Microsoft along with Mary Jo Foley. From his post on April 9: " It's "only" Windows Phone 8.1. The version of Windows Phone 8.1 you will get from the developer preview is "final," but it does not include any device firmware or driver updates that will accompany the future, public releases of his update on specific handsets. Also, Microsoft typically delivers small post-RTM updates that handset makers include with their phones; this release does not include any of that."

8.1 you got from MS in Dev preview is RTM. The versions we've been getting after that are post-RTM builds.

Who is Paul? From what I understand, he doesn't work for Microsoft. I cannot belive that you're referencing me with an article from a tech writer who I've never heard about him before.

I know you are lazy to read from my wiki reference. Let me quote in deep what I meant from the previous post:

"Beta: Some developers refer to this stage as a preview, prototype, technical preview / technology preview (TP), or early access. Some software is kept inperpetual beta—where new features and functionality are continually added to the software without establishing a firm "final" release."

So where is your proof that Developer Preview is RTM and Final? Give me a reliable source not a source that contains rumors bla2..  

"Who is Paul? From what I understand, he doesn't work for Microsoft. I cannot belive that you're referencing me with an article from a tech writer who I've never heard about him before."


Is it enough evidence for you to point out that the 8.1 DP and the 8.1 release both have the exact same version numbers?

It is evident that you are trolling. Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley are the most reknowned and respected journalists covering Microsoft for the past 20 years with sources inside Microsoft. Actually, Joe Bellfiore has said before that the dev preview are the final RTM bits, look for yourself if you doubt me, I have nothing to prove to you. If you'd rather live in ignorance, go for it, see if I care.

Did you mean they are famous in the US? Seriously, I never heard about him and I never had a friend named Paul in my Country. What I'm asking is a piece of evidence of your arguments. How am I supposed to trust you with your unreliable sources?

Answer my question. Why developer preview is available for all WP8 devices without carrier ristriction (You can install it without having to wait for carrier to approve). But the official (cyan) WP 8.1 release has carrier ristriction? Why?

The fact is:

Cyan = WP 8.1 final

Developer Preview = WP 8.1 beta

Your ignorance of the mobile market is astounding. The developer preview is available as a way to bypass carrier politics, in the same way that Google bypasses carriers in their Nexus line only. Carriers want to control the whole process a) to gain power and b) to block updates so consumers don't get new features but are forced to buy a new device instead. This situation is made possible by the monopoly we have in the US.

Believe what you want, fantasy land man. Be an ignorant. It's your choice. I'm tired of educating an ungrateful person. Read, learn, embrace facts: your life will be much better than if you keep thinking Earth is flat.

HTC 8X, but that's not what I'm saying. I was implying that it sounded like you were expecting bug-free, high-performing betas.

I think what a lot of people are wondering is if we those who get the GDR1 update will get the fix that allows Cyan to be installed for Preview phones as well as phones whose owners choose not to upgrade their 8.1 Preview to GDR1.

Food for thought, Sam.... If update One allows the XBM app to enable a live tile with animations, then, then, then wouldn't that essentially give other non OS level apps the ability to have an animated live tile as well❓❓❓❓❓❓ .... Of course considering that MS gave developers the tools to do so... But, it's now more possible than ever, wouldn't you think?

Well, since Cyan was always a firmware upgrade, what exactly were you expecting to change from the preview?

ah, tunggu minggu depan ajalah gan, nanggung banget... tapi Live Foldernya itulooh yang bikin gregeet!!! :3

Depending on your phone, you will NEED the Cyan upate for some features to work.  If you don't get Cyan update, you will miss out on some cool features.  The Lumia Icon will gain the capability of wirelessly transmitting screen to Miracast devices as well as a few other features.  That is why I'm waiting and hoping for Verizon to release the Cyan update AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!

I agree. Many people haven't received 8.1, yet GDR1 comes out next week for us devs.

Also, recently, Microsoft is messy right now. They have been all over the place...

Geez people sure are whiny.  How is this messy?  It is actually working exactly to plan.

DP is developer preview, so as the name says, it's for developers to preview upcoming features of the OS.  So it SHOULD roll out as fast as possible.  The only reason some of us gets it is because MS set an extremely low bar of entry as to what one considers a "developer" which let geeks to take advantage of the system.

Cyan is firmware - think of it as device drivers for your OS.  Your OS will work even if you do not have the latest drivers, so it doesn't matter if the core OS is updated but you don't get the latest device drivers, it just means your hardware may not be operating at its most optimal form, just as in the case of not getting Cyan for you phone but you can STILL run 8.1 or even 8.1 Update 1.  There is absolutely no mess to this except for people who don't actually know what they are talking about.

I say too slow, and I can't continue dp program anymore as two apps I need a lot stops working everytime; adidas micoach and Fonecta Caller. Too bad

Took the words put of my mouth. People complained that updates weren't fast enough and now that MS is stepping it up, all of a sudden they are now "messy"? It's proof that you cannot please everyone.

It's a good thing since more updates are welcomed, but ryte now I'm kinda wonder should i go back to wp 8.0 or should stay and go to gdr update 1 via dev preview. Since later to get the cyan formware to my country will required to go back windows phone 8.0 cuz theres no news bout microsoft gonna fix the dev preview

They will fix the dev preview. If you aren't patient, then downgrade and get cyan plus official 8.1, honestly resetting your phone isn't the end of the world.

Oh boy, when will they give the option for SMS not showing up the contents in a toast tile? The little things...

Thanks, still want the toast option, but kind of want more granular control, like the option in WhatsApp where you can toggle the toast tile not to display the contents of a new message.

If you mean that you don't want to have the banner showing when you receive a SMS than that option is already there. Just go to settings > notifications + actions > messaging.

That's not what they mean. They mean they want the banner to tell them that they have a new SMS, and presumably who it's from, but they don't want the banner to show the contents of the message.

Ah I meant that the text in the livetiles goes into the right edge instead of going into the new line

You can have the messenging app to just show any new notification in the action centre and not as a toast..

I think people aren't quite understanding what Olumeday is requesting. It's not that he doesn't want a toast banner showing up. What he wants is instead of the toast saying:

"Joe Bloggs: Hey! Want to meet up later?"

He'd rather it say:

"Joe Bloggs: Text Message"

It's just about giving people more privacy options. I'm all for the option personally - especially when the phone is locked.

Cyan cannot be skipped its firm ware u can update to GDR 1 for 8.1 than update to cyan once the DP fix is in place you will get the update without having to revert back 8.0

The article said there is no statement or report at the moment about the developers I guessing we gonna have to wait a while longer

In fact the rendering is still the same, however it can now trick badly-designed websites into thinking it's another browser. By badly made websites I mean ones like Google Drive which tells you that IE11 is not a 'modern' browser. Now you can pretend to have an Android phone and still get in.

It's indicative of how the big players are messing with each other, that msft's response is to hide its signature, when browsing. Good grief.