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Say goodbye to Bing apps, and hello to new MSN apps

Microsoft has just updated the suite of Bing apps on Windows Phone. The update drops the Bing branding and replaces it with MSN. So far we're not seeing any new features in these apps, mostly just the branding change.

Earlier this month Microsoft announced plans to replace the Bing apps with a rebranding that focused on MSN. This coincided with their overhauled MSN portal that came out a few weeks ago. At IFA, we saw the slight rebranding starting to place in the Bing apps on Windows Phone.

We also recently learned that Bing Finance wouldn't become MSN Finance, but instead would rebrand as MSN Money.

Today all those changes we've been talking about have happened. Head into the Windows Phone Store and you'll see updates for Bing Travel, Bing Finance, Bing Sports, Bing Food & Drink, Bing Health & Fitness, Bing News and Bing Weather. However after the update, they won't say Bing.

Play around with the new MSN apps and let us know if you notice any new features!

MSN Money

On Windows 8.1 we're only seeing an update for Bing Finance, which also turns it into MSN Money. We'll let you know when the rest of the Bing apps on Windows 8.1 receive their rebranding.

Update: Turns out MSN Health & Fitness does come with a changelog of new features! With the Health & Fitness app you now have:

  • Added new and independent cloud store to sync data between devices; removed integration with Microsoft Health Vault
  • Added a lock-screen option

Let us know what you think of the update to Health & Fitness and if you see other new changes. Thanks for the heads up Greg!

Thanks for the tips everyone!

466 Comments
  • Velocity increase detected
  • Do you seem to detect that increase in velocity? :)
  • MSN is a great brand name. I'd rather Microsoft kept 'MSN' as part of the app names to present a unified branding across platforms. It's a lot easier to search on 'MSN' to discover all of the apps, vs. searching one at a time.

    I wonder if they'll use 'MSN' when the apps hit iOS and Android. Hopefully they'll keep a consistent user-experience across platforms.
  • Updates: Health & Fitness app now has 1) it's own cloud store to sync data between devices, and has dropped integration with Microsoft Health Vault; 2) a lock-screen option.
  • That's a shame...quite liked the health vault integration :'(
  • and now doesn't sync with PC :/
    update: desinstall and install the app on PC .. and now it works perfect! really fast! i'm surprised! :)
  • I prefer the name Bing, but that's my opinion. :)
  • I too prefer Bing but would prefer more that they choose a brand name and stick to it, forever.
  • I agree with both of you. I think the name "Bing" needs it more as they want to increase the search engine's reach. I guess they are trying to have the apps be an extension of the new MSN homepage, but even that, MSN is a name that seems mostly dead to me
  • I would disagree to the fact that MSN is great brand name. It may just barely be good out side of US. For me MSN wad a bloated attempt by Msft to stand up against AOL and Yahoo in one go. That is exactly where it failed. It never had any thing of to claim to its own or was there to much that people don't get to see.
  • Totally agree. That logo alone looks about as fresh as my grandfather's wallpapers. Dumb move.
  • Did Microsoft pay you to post such silliness on forums?
  • Lol he meant to say seems faster :-)
  • Lol
  • Its the new "seems faster" thing?
  • Yeah
  • OMG.msn is a dead name to me and forever tarnished.
  • Bye then.
  • Bing has an even worst reputation... So it's the less of two evils.
  • That's what I've been saying the entire time. Neither are necessarily great brands to go with, but at least MSN has market share (430 million people).
  • What? Bing has a pretty good rep.
  • Only among some Microsoft fans. Bing is the subject of ridicule in the US (like it or not) and in Europe it's simply despised or just plain unknown (because of the complete lack of usefulness of it thanks to Microsoft's commitment to their US-first, US-Only policies).   Microsoft has damaged the Bing brand beyond repair at this point and I think they've acknowledged it (much like with Windows 8).
    That's why they're going for a brand that, albeit a lot older, it's more recognized, even if only because tons of people associate it with the popular MSN Messenger. MSN is, in a lot of ways, a brand much more recognized by people of all ages than Bing. I wouldn't be surprised to see it replace Bing in the search engine name too.
  • I have yet to speak to anyone who has a negative opinion on Bing. A non-preference, yes. A neutral opinion, yes. A negative opinion? No.
  • Come spend a few days in Europe and try using it here. I assure you, by the end of your trip, it will be you, yourself, who will have the negative opinion ;)
  • I'm from europe and I use bing, actually I prefer it to google. My friends and family all use Bing and are also quite happy with it. So PLEASE, do not speak for all of us.
  • Ok. 99.9% of Europe.
  • Omg....this guy...please stop publishing made up facts that you can't backup...99.9% of the UK hate Bing?? Really? I suppose you have some inside knowledge that no one else in world has??...or you just hate MS because they brought NOKIA and laid off all of your friends... Either way your posts are outlandish and very few people believe what you write. BING actually has a pretty decent reputation as a search engine outside of the U.S. but there are people who feel their maps need updating for many countries...which MS is doing ....so please .....when you can get 99.9% of the U.K. To back up your ridiculous claims ...bring us the facts...otherwise you are just trolling
  • Ridiculous. We Europeans don't give a single fuck about who you are, so please don't speak for us thanks. To counter your argument, Bing is relatively unknown in Europe how exactly is its reputation tarnished? I know many people who use bing on a daily basis and they love it.
  • Well, that's the last time we Americans drag your asses out if a world war, you pussies. Next time we'll let Germany kick the shit out of you like they were twice, until we have to bail Europe out.
  • Yeah we'll just let you drag the rest of the world into all the wars in future. As per.
  • At least we can win what we start
  • @Peg Leg,
    Where did that come from? You have a very limited knowledge and understanding of history by making ridiculous statements like that. You have disrespected all those who fought and died in both World Wars. Shameful.
  • @ Peg Leg, then explain Vietnam and Korea. Both of those America attacked to get trid of communism. The result: Vietnam is a communist country and Korea is still split into North and South (actually at the border that was there before American went in). Learn your history, idiot.
  • Huh? Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq. Tell us just exactly how we "won" these?
  • @Peg Leg Tell me then, where were you Americans when the Germans were bombing the shit out of Britain and marching all over Europe. The RAF won the Battle of Britain NOT the USAF. It was only when the Japanese decimated the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor that you Americans woke up to the fact that everyone else was fighting a World War!!!!
  • He's just your stereotypical dumb gung ho Yank. The ones that give all the others a bad name.
  • Thanks for speaking for me, I always knew I couldn't speak for myself and that I need someone to do it for me /s!!!!
  • I have a negitive opinion of anyone brainwashed to say google all day. Those people are drones and don't have the right to judge me or anything else.
  • Amen!
  • I can surf through hosts in Europe and I can confirm that its bad. It would work better if it returned the US results. It's too bad, I don't use google anymore here, or rarely.
  • You're lucky then.
  • Agreed. Neutral, positive, but mot a negative.
  • I have a negative opinion of Bing? I find that it doesn't return as relevent sites in searches as Google does (sadly, the same goes for all the other search engines I've tried too which is rather annyoing because Google as a company creep me out). 
  • Are you kidding? Bing is a joke around the world....the only place it seems to be acceptable is in the US (surprise, surprise).
    The only good thing about Bing is the images it gives me on my 1020 lock screen!
    Don't even get me started on the Bing Rewards farce (Microsoft emails me about such rewards that I'm not even eligible for because of my geographic location).
    Bing is a sack of do-do
  • Exactly this
  • I've never heard Bing ridiculed in the U.S. You're completely full of crap. Bing is a far superior search experience than Google in the U.S.
  • I'm in the UK (which I believe is part if Europe) and changed to Bing in preference to google years ago. I know many people who've done the same. Not sure what you base your "ridicule" and "complete lack of usefullness" statements on, certainly not my experience.
  • Agreed I prefer Bing to google
  • Internet Explorer has the worst rep. Sounds just as old as AOL. :-/
  • do you think bing is worse? while I agree it isn't all that great, bing at least is modern while MSN stinks of old and outdated in addition to being the home page for IE which is part of why people vomit when they use a PC without FF or chrome.
  • Your Iran opinion as there are millions of people who use msn today
  • Iran opinion, wtf are you talking about
  • I bet Microsoft feels stupid for killing MSN Messenger. Oh wait watch them backtrack like they always do
  • That! Grandfathers rejoice, everyone else look for Google L :/
  • Lawl someone Said " ow You googled that?" I Said "no i binged that :p" and it was just like normal! :D ppl say Google cuz it can and everybody says Google, unless You show another way theyre okay with that!
  • *grabs popcorn*
  • Seriously how old are you
  • Hello, goodbye
  • http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Michael-Scott-Closes-The-D...
  • I so prefer the Bing name.
  • Just kill WP already it's dying slowly
  • You are so very wrong.
  • You are so very wrong! The true potential is coming alive now. Yes its more like why wasn't it like this from the start, but it's here!
  • I miss WP 7.5... buts thats just me..
  • Totally agreed. I guess the time for incarnation of windows is close...
  • yes! let's have less competition! what could go wrong?
  • Yes! Let's help our competition, by bringing our apps, that formerly were a unique selling point for our platform, to our rivals; for free and even better (Office mobile) than on our residential platform. What could go wrong?
  • It does have potential, which is why I've been sticking with it for so long. Hopefully the next update will show it. It's not like Apple. I mean, why waste time and money trying to make something new if you know people are going to buy it anyway? They just have to make some small improvements and have Jonathan Ive exaggerate all the "engineering" and "innovation" it requires to construct a product that is "truly remarkable." I have to admit, the price is truly remarkable, as well as the number of people who still buy it.
  • ROFL..."truly remarkable". Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • I so concur sir!
  • Is that a troll? You high or what?
  • Unfortunately you are right. The writing is on the wall, WP is dying. The platform has failed to capture marketshare, it doesn't have apps because developers will never make their money back, and even the mainstream apps that we do have are crap because big devs take Microsoft's bribe and abandon the platform. Microsoft is always one-two years too late to the game, and often with half baked solutions. It seems to take two steps forward and one backwards in every update. Trust me, I love the platform and the hardware but you have to be very naive to think that its not dying.
  • You sound like one of those corporate people who waste a bunch of money on a good idea and if it doesn't get immediate results you are ready to dump it. In my community 3 years ago no one was looking at Windows Phone. Jump September 2014 and you are starting to see the phone everywhere...and people are beginning to recognize its existence. It's taken some time, but I believe that the phone can in another 5 years have 15-20% of the world smartphone market. But you are correct that MS needs to take better advantage of the windows of opportunity...ie. produce faster. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • Some times its bette to just cut your losses. Microsoft is starting to do this by bringing its apps to other platforms. MS services are not WP exclusive and Nokia is free to license its tech to other manufacturers. There really is nothing WP has to offer today, other than perhaps a pretty interface, that other platforms cannot do better. The one saving grace that might extend the life of WP and perhaps make it viable is a kickass desktop integration. I am talking about turning a phone into a full blown desktop before Google or Apple figureout how to do it. But knowing Microsoft, I bet that they will once again be late to the party or pull another WP7-WP8 fiasco.
  • 15-20% after another 5 years? By then we will have something much better than smartphones.....
  • I agree
    I'm not a troll I'm just a disappointed consumer on WP
    WP was my first smartphone never had a phone before. = Samsung Focus
    I never knew what WP was until I started exploring the WP7 OS then I was like Microsoft made this is pretty cool my friends used make fun of me but I didn't care
    Then WP8 got released got a Lumia 920 I started loving it even more
    Then WP8.1 came I love it
    Microsoft is slower than molasses to grow this OS out
    Hell I could've been a iPhone or Android user by then but I was offered WP
  • theyd be pretty stupid for acquiring nokia a few months ago then.  ill let u know when microsoft is stupid enough to give up a gold mine.  handing mobile market to ios and android on a silver platter  is something microsoft will never do.
  • Well, since they just bought a division from Nokia and NOT Nokia, and afterwards they fired half the employees... I'd say Microsoft has changed priorities.
  • Nokia was a disorganized company that had fat that needed to be trimmed. Nearly every economist and tech writer said the same. Obviously MS was going to let people go. We all saw it coming.
  • WP has 8.5% and growing Marketshare in EU5 alone, added 10+ new OEMs in the last 3 Months and as early AdDuplex numbers show the 630 is a huge hit around the globe, yet you think its a dying platform.... uhm okay. And no I won't "trust" a random guy on the Internet.
  • Are you dense, dying would be if it were going down I market share, which it isn't. Sure, it might not be gaining market share quickly, but it isn't dying. I think you are the naive one.
  • I thought we were going to be able to vote down the trolls, the ignorant, the ridiculous, and the trouble makers? Let the voting begin.
  • Still born, ya tit
  • Wrong. Look at India. Ios=2% WP=27%
  • Shhhh WP is dying. Lets forget about those factual numbers. /s
  • It is being speculated that Microsoft is going to pull the plug on WP. Don't know if its actually in the process of happening as we speak. But we'll know soon enough.
  • Lol what. Where you get that idea from?
  • They are not going to pull the plug completely. They are rebranding it just "Windows" and it will be pushed to the side while they try to keep the desktop users from defecting. It won't be killed, but any effort is going to be minimal going forward. You may see some new low end devices but nothing worthwhile.
  • YOU are dying slowly
  • In reality I am my health is not so good
  • Lol jk. I agree with you at that point Pacheco. Microsoft knows that they are late for the game but they seems didn't push harder to make the WP better & more recognized OS besides IOS and Android. As a WP user, the thing that I really hate is the OS & GDR update . Why we need to wait for a long time for the OS/GDR update? Etc like the 8.1 GDR1 , is already released as preview dev few month ago, but still no news when it will be released to the public. Even the 8.1 update also takes slow time to roll out to all country. Same goes with new phone too. The 8.1 is quite stable version already but there still lack of features like GIF support , the network setting(APN) also really lacks option unlike Android since the damn carrier in my country seems didn't give a shit about WP , so we have to enter the APN manually but it still not working because of the lack of configuration setting in the WP( U can compare it with Android network setting & see the big difference). Btw , I have no issues with the apps, although we still get lacks of mainstream/famous developer. Actually I also pushing hard to reach some famous dev by tweeting them almost every day although I sounds like a total douchebag begging for apps. Some of them are tweeting back like Top Eleven(they say they will make it available soon) , Candy Crush says they will not make it for a moment(lol , at least they knows already)Actually most of apps that I use on WP are super good making my friend that using LG Nexus (Android) are jealous and most of them are not available at their Play Store. I can conclude that :
    IOS=Application
    Android OS=Personalization
    WP OS =Smooth & Fluidity
    Btw we can see that Apple & Google are working hard 100% for their mobile OS, so why not Microsoft work 200% harder for their mobile OS since they were late for the games. Honesty, Microsoft are BAD at MARKETING. They need to put more tv commercial too. What a shame that WP OS are still rare & unknown in my country. Maybe people will disagree with me at some point but this is my honest opinion. I even didn't have a plan to switch to other OS since I still have faith in WP OS(I really love it) . :)
  • On a related note, I am really enjoying the new MSN webpage. I have changed it to be my homepage since the preview came out and it provides a great portal to Facebook, Twitter, Outlook, Onedrive and then all of my same Cortana news interests.
  • Yap, the new MSN page is really great, specialy for me that I can access lastest works on Office Online or OneNote.
  • I think so, too. It became my home page at both home and work.
  • Can we still get our Bing points from searching MSN?
  • I agree
  • health&fitness clears personal profile details (except tracker data) and no longer supports hearthvault connect
  • Wow, way to bring back msn. Bing is a much better option than msn. It's like trying to bring back myspace or Orkut
  • Orkut?
  • Orkut was a social networking site mostly used by brazilians. That's why mostly nobody else knows about it. inexpressive on usa, uk, and all other places.
  • the only google social product to ever find some traction....in brazil.
  • Could it be supported by Cortana?
  • Hello MSN :)
  • MSN??? Seriously?  
  • Yeah, one thing is new, alright: The publisher for this app doesn't allow it to be installed on an SD card ... Screw this!
  • Word. Sleep did the same thing....garbage.
  • I could not agree with you MORE. If these MSM apps have to be run from phone memory they can take them and (you know what). I have been running Bing sports and Bing news from the SD card in my 820 since AT&T released cyan/8.1 for the 820/920 not too long ago. Aint going back. I will just delete them and go with another news or sports app that can be installed to the SD card.
  • Well, all my apps are installed in the internal storage, only games and music/pictures are in my SD card.
  • Yeah and I think I'm getting a low storage error hah.. I have 10GB free space Fixed by uninstalling and installing again :)
  • And next year they'll be rebranded to something else. Because goodness for it Microsoft settle on a cohesive brand without resurrecting a dead and poorly regarded brand.
  • Huh?
  • Seriously. I thought the whole point of launching Bing was to replace the dying MSN and Live brands. Heck, they even rebranded MSN with Live! That's how "irrelevant" they perceived that name to be. What's next? They'll rebrand Windows Phone to Zune? No wonder they're getting nowhere in the phone and search space because everytime they make a gain, some genius decides they need a new name for the service and alienates the user base. Why hasn't Google, for example, changed Gmail to Google Mail or something? Because it isn't necessary. People already know Gmail. They don't want to know it by any other name. Ridiculous.
  • Agree 100%. Next yr, it'll be Xbox Finance and Xbox Weather. It's pretty pathetic.
  • Here here, my opinion bing for search and apps, xbox for games and Zune for music. A clear devide. I haven't used msn in about 10 years and back in the day was only a messenger service nothing more. I love the brands above shame 1 had been killed off already and looks like another is on its way, fast forward 5 years and we will all be sat in front of out msn games consol because xbox wasn't big enough!
  • Totally agree. Just when the Bing brand is growing with a positive image, they change it to the ancient, boring sounding "MSN". Who is making this awful decisions? It's like they have a spy from Google inside Microsoft making nonsensical decisions on purpose.
  • I hope they do because I'll never use an MSN branded product. ever.
  • Whats happen here? I think Bing name is better.
  • Can't install on SD anymore? Lol
  • I use and have used MSN.com as my homepage forever. Love this.
  • Dumb.
  • Lol, simple and to the point. The thing is Bing was more related to its search feature, where's there's apps are actually tied to the features you get from MSN. So it is in fact not dumb (except for MSN Money - that to me is dumb...), it's just a part of the overall goal of providing centralized services first - then people will by the (hardware/software) products to get those services. It was dumb to can then Bing apps when the did more than just search, whereas that's ask Bing really is.
  • Not necessarily. Bing was initially launched more of as an umbrella term for their web services. MSN was perceived as irrelevant so they rebranded that to Live a while ago and then decided to launch Bing to clear that entire mess up. Saying that Bing is just a search engine is like saying Google is just one. Google has built an entire ecosystem of web based services around that search engine - Microsoft needs to do the same. It's clunky having to transition from MSN to Bing and Outlook and then having separate divisions within the company for each service. Bring web services under one umbrella and the obvious candidate is the most popular name - Bing. Keep the mail and calendar/office to Outlook but put the web service with Bing.
  • Microsoft has the worst marketing team in the tech industry. "The Bing name is not working for us, so what should we make the new brand?" "Live [app]" "Xbox [app]" "MSN [app]!" "Let's go with MSN!" Seriously. Fire the whole team. Microsoft's sales will double in the next year even if it's staffed with interns afterward.
  • Couldn't agree more. Their Marketing is just SO bad.
  • Agree! FIRE THEM RIGHT NOW!
  • It's not, the services of these apps are what you get when you go to MSN.com
  • Right! It drives me CRAZY trying to figure out what they were/are thinking sometimes. I mean, these aren't stupid people but man, they sure do some stupid things! Only thing I can figure is that the "monopoly mind set" is so prevalent in the company that they can't shake it. Maybe firing everyone is the answer, who knows!?
  • +1 just wait until next year when a new exec decides to rename it yet again.
  • I think what is happening is the Nadella Effect. Balmer was a bit more scattered about things, but if you noticed, Nadella is a minimalist. It is about being streamlined and efficient. One Brand - Microsoft Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • So is Bing going to be renamed MSN Search? Ugh
  • So is Bing going to be renamed MSN Search? Ugh
  • Well, Bing is not MSN, I guess they are trying to separate the Bing TM from web news and those services.
  • Saying that I agree is a major understatement!
  • Maybe MS has a shoestring global marketing budget
  • I'm not sure where Live or Bing came from, but in a way 'MSN' makes some sense and has some consistancy.  MS Word, MS Excel, etc are both MS apps... MSN News is a MicroSoftNetwork app.   And using 'XBOX' for entertainmanet services and apps (games) also makes some sense since it's associated with a game / entertainment console.
  • MSN. I might as well go to yahoo.com. Or, or ... AltaVista.com. Who uses portal websites anymore? Why?
  • The new MSN portal is very good, it haves shortcuts for several services. For example, there isn't a easy way to access lastest work on Office Online, even if you go to any page on the office online, if you select recent files, it will send you to onedrive, and then to office. To use any of the Microsoft sevices (Email, Office, OneNote or OneDrive), the MSN new portal is great.
  • Nobody cares. It's 2014, not 1994.
  • 1994 was a good year! I graduated high school then thought, I have an idea, I'll do it all over again to earn a PhD....(tears), at least its over
  • I'm sure if fored made a model T today it would be very good if they shipped it back to the past.
  • A lot of people...that's why Yahoo is still in business. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • Apparently you can't have these apps on an SD card anymore. As I'm sure that this is a glitch, I'll wait to update.
  • Ouch! MS, Just rebrand Windows Phone to Windows Mobile again! Apple is really nice in marketing. Just put i + name, and voila! It becomes a massive hit.
  • Yeah why not simply Windows Sports, Windows Finance, Windows Sports, or Microsoft Sports, Finance etc
  • Never got used to bing name. İ liked to bring back msn.
  • What was wrong with the Bing name. Or no name at all which it used to be. Why can't it just be News, Travel, Sports, Health & Fitness instead of having MSN in front of everything.
  • My thoughts exactly
  • I think they wanted to brand it something MS-related in case they brought the apps to other platforms.
  • Maybe they want to go back to what works...bringing back msn back to basics with start menu
  • MSN is more of a dead name than Bing, so why change it? MS spends so much time changing names.
  • Agreed. Dumb move.
  • Churn, change just for the sake of change. Just burns up money paying people to study and implement the change. It isn't obvious that it is strategic.
  • embarrassing...
  • Elaborate?
  • Can you imagine telling people that you use MSN Weather to check weather and MSN Money to check stock rates on your phone? It's really embarrassing.
  • lol I agree. Person: "hey do you know a good news app" You: "yeah MSN news" ...silence Person: "how old are you?"
  • It's embarrassing that Microsoft continuously is rebranding. Pretty sure, the MSN brand will change as well in the future. It's a very confusing name.
  • Good move by MS. They need that portal. I'm tired of devs setting Google as default search browser on their browser...
  • Because Google is fast to work with. Has a simple no nonsense home page where you just start typing and things show up. Bing did it one better by having a better looking webpage/service that loaded equally quickly. I'm sorry, but people don't want a "web portal" when they open up their browser. Complete waste of time and they already serve that content with live tiles and notifications so why bother? I'd save the 10 seconds and go where I want to go right away. Case in point? Yahoo, AOL, MSN, Opera and other "portals" all have a declining user base or are now defunct.
  • Oh! Hello "people"! How are you? How do you know what people think? millions of people! are you Cerebro?
  • agreed, the last thing I want when I open a browser is a million crappy stories from 3rd date news sources half of which will be placed ads. I love bing.com's simplicity just as much as google's. I perfer bing though.
  • R.I.P Bing Apps. Now Bing has a far less chance ever being recognized and respected
  • I vote for a WP central article on MSN app alternatives. I just removed them all.
  • Bing is a horrible name. MSN is worse. For the love of all that's good, get a new marketing team.
  • Nothing wrong with the Bing name.
  • Bing it? I can't be the only one that sounds awkward to.
  • No more so than "google it"
  • I actually disagree about Google it. Its close enough to goggle, oogle, etc have to do with looking at something, or looking it up. What's Bing? The microwave finishing?
  • Bing has been around for ages. It literally means a heap or pile of something, usually metals, but really anything. And what is the internet if not a heap or pile of all kinds of stuff? Linguistically, it rolls off the tongue more easily because it doesn't have an extra stop consonant.
  • Ask Cortana to define Bing.
  • Yes, she provides one of the sub definitions :)
  • C'mon, Google is a goofy name.
  • No, Google is bad. You're just use to it. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • I just think of Chandler Bing from Friends.
  • I think I agree. And as much as I hate to say this. MS, you need to hire some hipster marketing people
  • I like BING. The BING images on the BING search page is my home page. Have you noticed the amazing animations. I like the sound of the word, like when you discover something. BING. MSN? Microsoft Sports & News? Boring.
  • Now live tiles of those apps stop working
  • Why are they doing this?
  • Wasting money.
  • Because they kind of don't know what they're doing. Sadly.
  • Hello msn , but you seems to be older than me ?
  • So we've finally come full circle..
  • It is not full circle until Windows Phone becomes Windows Mobile.
  • And until Bing becomes Windows Live. Soon we'll see Cortana being powered by Windows Live.
  • Breathe easy people, life is short no need to make it shorter by complaining about a brand name.
  • Kind of found bing to be a brand that you couldn't take seriously sort of like live(with the exception of xbox live)
  • It's just too casual and awkward sounding to be taken seriously. MSN is professional, if tarnished, overused, and corporately dry. Both are bad names.
  • I think they should rebrand it to "Fuck yeah!" And be done with it.
  • I totally agree. Micrsoft needs to get rid of a lot of these differents names it has for it's divisions. MSN, BING, XBOX, MICROSOFT, WINDOWS its just too much. Just verbally saying 'MSN' and 'BING' makes me contemplate suicide. I honestly did not even know MSN still existing until I read this article.  Microsoft needs to just use the names Windows, and Xbox. And these apps should just be named 'WIndows Money', etc. It doesn't roll off the toungue but anyhting is better than MSN and BING.
  • If the word "google" worked for Google, Bing was perfectly fine for Microsoft.
  • Outside the USA MSN is a total junk brand with zero respect.
  • I like MSN Auto, they should have an app for that LOL.
  • That's just goofy.
  • I've updated the bing weather app yet, but it's nothing different, the name still Bing weather inside the app.
  • However it updated the lock screen info to support forecasts! I'm looking the new update. The name means nothing to me so long as it works.
  • yeah that right,
  • I second that
  • I know the feels, haha
  • Such a dumb move.
  • And they are selling Cortana which is powered by the unknown Bing... It'll give bad reputation, but Microsoft make better OneDrive and Skype for others, so they clearly give a f*ck
  • Bing still exist, do you know? Bin is the search engine, MSN is the web portal providing news and information. MSN Apps are based on Bing information.
  • On a related note, the new MSN.com (preview) is pretty good :) http://preview.msn.com/
  • I have it as my home page and think It looks awesome. It uses Bing as the search engine though ... Lol ... full circle.
  • I prefer Bing name :(
  • The Heck?!? I am still seeing BING on my phone and I updated the app...
  • Awesme updates! I am loving it, I dnt know why people don't see on the positive sides of it.
  • -____- Microsoft marketing continues to baffle.
  • Nooooooooooo!!!!!!
  • Doesn't allow to install on SD card anymore
  • Bing had its own set of apps like Google and Microsoft ruined it, Facepalm.
  • Looks like msn weather lockscreen has been updated. Shows two additional days.
  • Yeah, I'm digging it!
  • I wish I could see it but my stupid phone won't install them... It has nothing to do with the msn apps. My phone does it alot it wont install some apps until like 5 days later. It's very irritating!
  • I'm digging it.  I guess Bing can be the search side of MS and MSN is the info. 
  • u are right, Bing is the search engine, it still exists. I guess naming bing to all (the apps) can confuse people that what bing is. But well, some people can't think a little bit further
  • I expect to see job listing for the Marketing team for Microsoft come up soon. What they do up there idk, but clearly they suck and don't have a vison or fresh (exciting) ideas.
  • WTF can't update my apps because they are on my SD card?
  • Im not even using any of these.
  • Microsoft is trying to catch the lose users since Windows 8 and Bing era...hope this works for increase the market, but honestly I preferred Bing, MSN sounds old. The people wanted new technology but themselves stopped it, "thanks apple!"
  • Inside the preview MSN site I can find "two areas" that aren't covered by the actual apps, entertainment and "beauty" (I don't know the correct term in English for that). Maybe there are two new apps coming??
  • The News app, now have a different font type... Or it's just bold
  • It's bigger and bolder.
  • I didn't mind "Bing" on everything but for these services but this is cool too. Not sure how I'll feel they remove Bing from search though. MSN Search.  Nahh, it doesn't seem to fit. Not quite broad enough to be used. 
  • They are using MSN for the info apps like News, etc becasue they use the same data as on msn.com. Bing search and will remain the same because it is a standalone search engine and not part of msn.com. They are simply separating and clarifying the brands.
  • What was so bad about "News", "Sports", "Health and Fitness", etc.?  Why does it have to be "MSN News" suddenly? I know the content is the same, but I'm a lot less inclined to go to an "MSN Sports" app than the "Sports" app.
  • It's to support when they put it to Droid and IOS
  • To make it goddamn harder to find of course! Why should I be able to find weather under W? Lets guess the letter today!
  • I wonder what it will be renamed to next year
  • This ^^^ to messy and confusing to the average user Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • CompuServe!  
  • Anyone else's news live tile stop working?
  • Yes, but just for a moment. Now it works as usual.
  • Bing, MSN, not a big difference. What hurts Microsoft products is the continuous rebranding. Pick one, stick with it.
  • Can't install on SD card.
  • Who use msn outside usa? Really a dumb move.
  • I think this is the right move. BTW, the new MSN portal is very slick and fast. Try it if you haven't.
  • At least they didn't touch Bing translator, that's an app I use a lot
  • Problem with a lot of these updates for me is that they have to be installed on my phone and not my SD card. I haven't enough room on my phone. Crappy.
  • Weather Lockscreen Changed
  • Why downloaded in phone memory!
  • Well, I liked Bing more than MSN. :( that's all I have to say.
  • No comments please.MS never listens.They always do what they want not what we wish.Just wish 'em good luck like a poor daddy of a rich guy.
  • i think i like MSN brand name more than Bing
  • The MSN health and fitness app has new features
  • Idk....MSN.....im so use to it being bad....maybe I should give it another try? But the name MSN....
  • And yet another name change for a Microsoft product!
    This seems to be the only company that routinely change product names seemingly on a whim. Like there is no concerted global objective.
  • The thing is this. We obviously, as WP users, keep track of many things MS. This doesn't surprise me too much. However, your average user has absolutely no idea WTF is going on with MS these days. Windows Phone vs Windows Phone 8. Bing vs MSN. Lumia vs Nokia. 830, 521, 520, 930, 920 LMNOP. Jesus Christ. Streamline your shit to the average user. I am starting to feel like I deserve an honorary degree for all of this shit. "Xbox MSN Bing"
  • LMNOP honestly made my day and if I knew you personally I'd give you 5 bucks. I agree with you 100%
  • Re: Tjalsma,
    I think that is what "marketing strategy" is supposed to do.
  • just add new features instead of unuseful name changing, what are you doing microsoft?
  • Man I feel like I should cash in my Bing rewards points right now before they go away
  • That's what I'm doing right now
  • Microsoft has to do better then this. My goodness.
  • MSN is a ugly-ass name. It sounds old, not-cool. Bing brand was much better you know
  • The MSN News tile looks horrible. It's not transparent anymore :(
  • It never was.
  • For me, at least, it turned transparent when it flipped
  • Bing is a turd name, but all of this rebranding becomes ridiculous, if you want youth, it's got to be catchy, iPhone, albeit a dull phone in most respects, had a "cool" name the closest were had to a cool name phone was the icon, even dos (dirty operating system) sounds like it could be better than some of the names we have now
  • Wat Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • Read it again if it has caught your attention, if not, simply bypass.
  • Telling me to check install while updating but other apps are updating as usual.
    Edit: They need to be moved to be phone memory they can't be installed now on memory card.
  • I'm surprised they didn't go with "MSN appname powered by Bing for Windows from Microsoft" that would have covered all the bases and they wouldn't have to change the name every 6 months because another team felt they had a cooler brand.
  • Re: DeepHeay,
    That would have been a good marketing/ promotion strategy "looked good" for these apps when they are on the "other" phone operating systems.
  • Just rename "Bing" to "MSN Search Engine" while you're at it. Might as well attract as many oldies as you can.
  • too bad the apps aren't renamed to be located together in the app list.
  • Goodbye MSN apps that force people to use all their phone space. Allow SD installs, they worked fine before.
  • I thought that they were going the change the design of the app and get rid of that hideous green. This is stupid.
  • You cannot download these apps to an SD card anymore..
  • WTH IS WRONG WITH MSFT...
    MSN REALLY?? I thought this is the new MSFT??
    Why bring a dead name? What's next? Zune?
  • Oh god. I hope so! But that would be a positive development. NEXT!!!
  • The ZUNE PC desktop software is still a free download and is amazing.
  • :/ I loved the Bing name, MSN reminds me to my dad. He uses that as his start page.
  • Prefer Bing, but weather has a new lock screen
  • Unfortunately, the MSN name should not have gone away in the first place. I thought BING worked, but I was MSN from the beginning (early 90's). I get that you want the Microsoft name on other platforms when these apps launch on IOS and Android, just do not change them again and get your marketing situation together. Bottom line is you are hurting the your product with a non consistent branding practice. Get your act together.
  • Yeah. Users on iOS and Android are going to be chomping away at servers downloading MSN Travel and MSN Money. WTH is wrong with MS? Maybe they should Bing it and they'll get an answer.
  • Re: 'DBub0817'... You and me both, since MSN launched. Good point and recommendation.
  • They are trying to "unify" the whole thing. They are getting rid of "phone" on windows phone. They are going to drop a numerical name leaving just Windows instead of Windows 9. They are using msn instead of bing because it has Microsoft in the name. They want everything to either have "Microsoft" or "Windows" in the name. Seems pretty simple to me.
  • Exactly! 'MicrosoftMobile4Me' nice username by the way.
  • When did this site become whine central? That's all I see in these comments anymore. Anyway in topic, I like the MSN brand.
  • Because Nadella gives the people who really love Microsoft products loads of reasons to whine...
  • Speak for yourself. I love MS products and I think they are doing a great job.
  • For all those who say MSN is a dead brand. Microsoft said it has hundreds of millions of users. Hardly unused.
  • I have to wonder what their definition of "users" is. I'm thinking they're including everyone who ends up on MSN for all of 2 seconds after logging out of outlook, being linked to a random news article, or are unfortunately unable to change their home page. I haven't heard anyone actually use msn in years.
  • And I rarely see iPhones these days. What we, personally, see and hear isn't indicative of the wider world. :P Regardless, that is a good question.
  • I love MSN but if they were to replace the search engine what would they call it?
  • MSN search obviously...
  • What about bing translator?
  • I think translator will stay with the Bing brand name.
  • Any new features? Weather should get some serious updates now!
  • Absolutely Nothing. No changes... It needs huge makeover...
  • MSN has been around a lot longer then Bing, Facebook, Yahoo and Google. Microsoft Network... Catchy eh?
  • Only the name has changed, nothing else. Still no transparent live tiles. Weather app needs a huge makeover...
  • A company with an identiy crisis.  Sounds like the headless chicken called Microsoft.
  • Microsoft is wasting too much time with their experiments on brand names. Nokia > Lumia, now bing > msn.
  • All apps can be updated when move to phone, are you getting this or only me?
  • No SD card support!
  • Weather app is now broken, it thinks it's nightime here Australia when it's midday!!!!
  • I kinda like the Bing name. MSN is cool,just the use of it as a name for these apps will have to grow on me. MSN Health and Fitness doesn't have the same ring to it like Bing did. Nevertheless,in the name of branding and progress I truly up this works in the favor of growth and positive recognition soon.
  • I like the Bing name a lot, but if I was Nadella I would be using MS everywhere. Since this service is being offered across platforms it needs to say MS as much as possible. Otherwise you will have the Lexus effect: "What?! I never knew Lexus was a Toyota. If I knew I might have bought one." So now when it shows up in the Google Playstore and you type Microsoft you will see Microsoft all over the place...MSoffice, MSonedrive, MSoneNote, MSnews, MSxbox, MSnetworks, and MScortana. Posted via Windows Phone Central App
  • Good point!
  • MScortana? Banter!
  • What about Bing Vision?
  • Bing Translator also have not been Changed to MSN.
  • I don't understand why Microsoft just create confusion to common people ¬¬
  • Because confusion is the love of common people nowadays...
  • Never liked bing aka
  • Why the fuck! All apps are not installing on SD card
  • Great. . Updating now :)
  • I hope that MS knows what it is doing, and that it results in increased success.  I'll miss the bing app branding.
  • MSN will forever be linked to MSNBC. A name no one takes seriously.
  • I thought they're the same.
  • Does anyone have any insight as to why no SD card support more? I mean did they simply overlook it or could there be a reason. Perhaps they think the app needs to reside locally in order for some new features to work correctly? Hmm
  • Why need. To remove healthvault integration
  • Integration was lame anyway. It never synced body weight anyway...
  • So instead of repairing it, they had to remove it?
  • WINDOWS MSN!
  • Wonder when the Windows Store apps are next...
  • Hate it when it cant install on my sdcard. I wont update or maybe I just uninstall all the bing/msn apps
  • MSFT: Changing names and brand since 1804.
  • Apps are not getting installed on SDCard.. That's seems to be a new change..
  • name change i accept. but can't install on SD card it damn i can't accept that. all app are minor app on need to run from phone memory. WTF Microsoft
  • Why the hell remove the health vault connection with bing HEALTH and fitness?  I mean, HEALTH vault is another microsoft product, that allows other apps to upload information regarding your HEALTH.  I use it to track my major health issues, and my excercise to help deal with that.  Well, now its going to have to be a manual entry into HEALTH vault, since I have no use for HEALTH and fitness anymore. The other thing still missing is the connection between the food and drink collections on the phone and modern app... you would think that would sync.  
  • Did you get a HealthVault app too?
  • So this is Microsoft's Cingular --> AT&T move? Nice. Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • Between Bing and MSN, I could go either way, but I think Bing sounds better and fits better. Yet, seeing new MSN layout and how it does have the same sections, it does make for MSN uniformity.
  • My Lumia 820 is not updating Bing apps to MSN apps... I think he is in serious relationship with bing apps and don't want to loose them. Lolz
  • Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HATE MSN BRAND! For me is related to SLOW and BAD services with ads everywhere... :/ Bing is related with cortana, beautiful images ans technology... HATE MSN... :( I was just buying a lumia 630 later this month... now maybe not :(
  • relax kid
  • Chill, their new MSN site is much better looking.. Preview.msn Even the "MSN" brand is much more popular in some areas than "Bing".
  • At least they are all Live Tiles now.
  • I can only hope that all this name change is part of a bigger plan, I just wanna see this platform grow, don't you ruin it Microsoft... :(
  • "the publisher does not allow app to be installed on sd card" -one of the great features brought by this update! lol
  • Can't install on SD?  Ugh. Classic one step forward/two steps back Microsoft.
  • They should just rename everything Goggle. Some people will be confused enough to increase their user base dramatically.
  • Lol
  • it's not getting updated on SD card.
  • all about business and money..bye bye Bing and hello MSN..
  • So 'bing.com' will become 'msn.com' again? Why even change the name?
  • No.
  • Yup. All updated for me tonight to MSN. Seems to load faster. I haven't noticed much more, but hey, its been a half hour ;P
  • it cant be installed on sd card but
  • boo, HealthVault was my primary reason for using H&P (my doctor supports it). SAD FACE GOES HERE.
  • Are these updates only for 8.1?
  • Loving the new Weather Lockscreen!
  • What is it Xbox weather or msn? I don't enjoy green sky's are on the horizon! Bye Bing weather, gonna miss you.
  • Did they really change the lockscreen or do you mean the enhancement of glance screen?
  • MSN is not bad. MSN.com is default website in Internet Explorer.
  • That is a convincing argument against a bad brand... NOT.
  • Bring back Zune and I'll stay with windows phone forever.
  • Or at least, all the features.
  • not getring installed on sd card. is that a bug to be fixed or what?
  • Can not be installed on SD card any longer:(
  • Why have Microsoft removed HealthVault integration with Health & Fitness?
    Seems pointless to have Health & Fitness now. Bye bye, MSN apps, I don't need any of you now. *sad face*
  • Updates for all Windows 8.1 apps are out
  • I liked Bing as a name and the respective logos a lot. MSN to me sounds about as exciting as AOL, a relic from the dark ages of the internet. In my personal opinion this is a stupid move. :/
  • "Bing" is a technical INFRASTRUCTURE, they obviously wanted something to separate the apps (which are CONTENT-oriented) from that.
    But is "MSN" a GOOD brand? I don't know. They should've gone for something completely different.
  • agree with u and the reason is nokia Microsoft acquisition talks were going for a long time. then we when it happened android just did marketing and capture the market. whats happening is that Ballmers plans were different and satya has a better vision too. what hes doing is cleaning up ballmers mess what he has done in past years. Now job cuts, acquisitions, new employees are coming. it will take a time to reach. i completely agree what the devs of windows phone has treated us like. for eg- Skype for wp. now as rt and wp are merging there will be great new features for us afterwards. this all bcoz this year a lot of t things and changes have happened. in this year we had new CEO, nokia acquisition,job cuts and new ambitions. till lasr December wp sales were very good. this all changed because of the recent organisation changes what has happened at Microsoft.
  • Re: Aashish13,
    Respectively, this is very hard for me to read.
  • Only Microsoft would remove Health Vault integration, and tout it as a feature. On MSN:  1995 is on the line, and they want their dot-com branding back.   
  • New branding are the new trend?
  • What about bing translator ?
  • So,we've to ask Cortona as "What's the MSN news today?", "What's the MSN weather on New York"?
  • Ah, get over it..decision was based on research and development which we (wp users that is) fund and that money give us the privilege to call their apps music and sports!
  • Problem is not the availability of app but the OS itself. It is designed for stone age. A smartphone that cannot handle more than one app at a time. If they solve resuming,loading I think more than half problem will be solved. Imagine a smartphone that cannot download in background. Suppose I am downloading something on UC meanwhile i want to read comments on wpcentral guess what I cannot the Download will be paused. Suppose I am raiding someone on cloud raiders, I have deployed all my troops and the screen locks...when I unlock it will start endless resuming and loading its just ridiculous. I cannot download some video in WhatsApp in background. It's a dumb Phone not a smart.
  • So the weather description on the lock screen is now English only, even though the rest of the app is in whatever language your phone is set to. That's consistent.
  • It just gets worse with these updates!!! lol
  • Gooooooooodbye
  • No, msnOutlook.com, msnOnenote.com, msnHealth.com, ext, ext...
  • Don't care what they're called, just make sure the apps work!
  • That's the prob dude, are you not reading the comments on your tab? Can't install to sdcard anymore, still using Bing in translator name, removing option to use Heathvault, on and on dude. This company is a complete fraud and should use a big lower case g for their logo!
  • New MSN Weather app do not support instalation on SD card:-(
  • Probably necessary, but it seems a bit silly that one has to download an average of 8MB per app all over again just for a name change...
  • What happened to incremental updates? (One of the awesome features of Windows phone 7)
  • I love health and fitness app
  • So, now we will receive updated from MSN team?
  • Also with the weather app, the UV conditions not showing up is causing the nighttime cloudy background to appear during the day instead of the daytime one, what a mess!!!!
  • I can barely use Bing search app anymore. Thanks Cortana, which in my opinion is a huge intrusion to my searches. Hardly talks anyway. Uninstalling. Maybe I'll make google my default browser. Hmmm.
  • Well I don't think anyone will notice any change here in Spain... I still have to meet somebody who knows what Bing is... Or with a WP for that matter
  • I see many people on the metros of Madrid with WP. WP has over 15% market share in Spain.
  • Youtube Downloader Pro+ now avalibale for Windows Phone and Windows  Download Links :  Windows Phone 8.1 - http://goo.gl/FL1jt8  Windows 8.1 : http://goo.gl/wjmrv2  
  • Both bing and msn get ridiculed for being old and crappy by everyone I know.
  • You need to meet some new people. (kidding).
  • just use MS as in Microsoft... much less confuzing.
  • Yeah, motorship Microsoft.
    On course to... non-significance, besides as a content provider for some apps. Hah, Microsoft, how do you like the Yahoo! future?!
  • I still see the Bing name attached to these apps
  • Weather is crashing on my Lumia 920
  • Any news on cyan for the rest of dp users
  • Did anyone get the HealthVault app too?
  • Installed
  • Honestly, I feel like this is a poor decision. Reminds me of the past, not the future.
  • Should be calles MSN News, MSN sports in the app list so that all are in one place and easy to find.
  • News App hands on start up. App no longer works on my Lumia 820 dp 8.1.1 Nokia black firmware. Annoying
  • It won't even install on mine...
  • Restarting handset has allowed App to start now, but extremely slow to load initial content.
  • :'(
  • Strange. But not strange when its Microsoft. They usually make retarded desicions more often than..sometimes... Msn was the start page in the old days. Think of blue screens more than news or whatever. Bing in my eyes is fresh! Idiots.
  • Pain in the bum as did have the apps stored on my sd card but now you have to install to the phone. Guess that will cause some to rethink if they need the app in order to save space
  • Even more clever is the fact health and fitness no longer sync with healthvault. Thanks guys nice move NOT
  • Yet more apps prevented from being installed on an SD card. This feature is slowly being removed!
  • Who the duck cares about the NAME?
    What really angers me, is that Nadella gives away every unique selling point of Windows Phone to rivaling platforms.
    I didn't care that Skype was multi-platform (as it actually helped Windows Phone, because you could tell people they could reach their friends on other platforms via Skype).
    But I really can't see, how giving away a BETTER Office (than the one on Windows Phone), the Bing/MSN apps and soon Cortana to OTHER PLATFORMS for FREE, is a strategy, that helps Windows Phone or Microsoft.
    Maybe they get the apps in the hands of some more customers, but since they don't make money off of them, what's the use of a larger installed base?
  • I think he knows what he is doing.
  • The only times I have ever used MSN is when it automatically redirects to after using Outlook mail. Which I quickly close the tab and move on. So, that's how popular it is for me. Also the Weather app has missing translations for my language on lock screen.
  • Weather keeps crashing.. Trying reboot.
  • Non US here. MSN has crappy connotations for me (msnbc, aol etc). Its a non-brand in the UK and means nothing to me. Having said that, Bing to me is just a search engine and Bing Finance is "search engine finance" in my head so the "Bing xxxx" never made sense to me. Are they just moving everything away from Bing and leaving Bing as the search engine? Or is Bing going to become "MSN Search" or something equally wanky?
  • But why?
  • Does this mean personal recipes are now going to sync from desktop to phone in the food app?
  • We can hope.
  • Dang. After the update live tile does not shows picture.. Only THE TEXT, in SPORTS, NEWS..
  • Well, I used to add my weight etc in the healthvault app, which used to get synced with Health and Fitness. Healthvault shows a nice graph of weight/height etc and had an option of showing year/month/week views.   In health and Fitness, you can just add the latest weight and there's no option to view your previous weights? Also, I used healthvault to add medical records, weight/height of my 2 month old daughter (who obviously doesn't have her own MS account or device). Now I will have 2 use 2 separate apps and keep data synced manually? I don't resist change, but MS has got to stop launching new products which are behind the older products (they replace) in terms of features.        
  • Less features = simple. I think "simple" is very popular with most people now.
  • Those people should probably buy Apple products.
  • Still not sorted the money app. £/us £/¥ etc so why €/uk.
  • I don't feel any affinity towards Microsoft and their Bing 'brand', and nor do I towards MSN (apart from MS's irritation of pushing MSN as the home page on new installs. I will use what I consider the most appropriate service/app for me. However, I do wonder what direction MS is going. SkyDrive now OneDrive (I know, not their choice). Windows Phone to drop 'Phone'...maybe. Windows to become who knows what. I do believe that a single branding across all platforms could be the way to MS' future identity. But, what do I know? I don't have MS' marketing budget.
  • Say goodbye to HealthVault synchronization :(
  • There was a change in weather lock screen.......now that was a gud one ;)
  • Some improvements to the Diet Tracker in Health & Fitness that I immediately notice:
    - adding items is faster (due to the new servers?)
    - recent, favorite & custom lists display full long item names now (on multiple lines)
    - favourite & custom lists are sorted alphabetically
  • Where is exercise tracker?! Been in the regular Windows app from the beginning yet, STILL missing from the phone app. Just absurd to have such an omission. I always have my phone on me at the gym,I never have my surface. Pitiful MS, just pitiful.
  • Weather puts more information on your lock screen now if you have it set. Nice!
  • I'm a veteran and use HealthVault so disappointed Health&Fitness doesn't work with it anymore.
  • News tile title, is bigger than Weather and the placement is off as well. There is also a delay Between Weather's today and daily view.
  • Bummer that healthvault is under utilized.
  • Chandler bing!
  • I still think they should all rename it to one!   So instead of msn or bing just call it one!
  • Nope, I don't like that idea at all. But if they did, I'm sure I'd eventually get over it. Anyone recall the outcry when the "Wii" was announced?
  • 2002 called, they want their Microsoft services back...   I'll be uninstalling any apps that are renamed badly, ie, Weather, to MSN weather, or just really, anything renamed to MSN.
  • That's kind of stupid. If you like the app aside from a name change. Completely abandoning it seems shortsighted and overly spiteful. It's just a rebranding within the same company. It's not like they're rebranding to something disgraceful like "GargleFart Weather" or "ScabJerky News". If the apps are improved overall, going from from Bing to MSN has no impact on whether or not I would use it.
  • Oh don't worry, i'll be one starring them on my way out too. MSN is just as offensive here as garglefart, it's the most junk brand Microsoft have after Live, and more junk than Zune or hotmail.   Weather app isn't even accurate, and the "apparent/feels like" temperature is always off by a good 10 degrees celcius. I only have it installed for convenience as my local weather app needs to have location set, but is VERY accurate. If it's no longer called weather, it's no longer convenient, I don't keep the rubbish pinned.
  • Weather on lock screen now shows more detailed info about today and the next two days, with icons. I can dig it!
  • And so I said "hello" to MSN and goodbye to livetile and lockscreen in german....weather app :-(
  • I've always wondered where the name Bing came from, seems a bit random.
    I'm in the UK and use Bing for image searches, as the Google image interface is clunky, but Google.co.uk for other searches as it provides more relevant results than Bing, unfortunately.
    MSN and the butterfly reminds me of my first forays into the internet, a bit of a blast from the past.
  • I am having trouble with downloading and installing the updated version of all Bing products. Anyone having the same?
  • Yeah, they all fail at the end of the install with 8103012e
  • They only changed the name of Bing Weather to MSN Weather and still managed to mess up the live tile. Which now uses English to describe the current weather, all else is in the correct language...
  • We published a new update to the MSN Weather (build # 3.1.4.413) that fixes the issue where in Live tile shows information in Localized language. Please try that build and let us know..
  • Works! Compliments for the listening to customers and the quick fix. But for the sake of the entire platform please improve testing. I'm still wondering what has happened to the update of the Calendar app that failed so miserably it was withdrawn but hasn't made a re-appearance in three months time now.
  • Something else is seriously wrong though. Today is Thursday, but MSN Weather can't make up it's mind. Today it has switched back and forth between Thursday and Friday several times. My lock screen currently shows the current weather, Saturday en Sunday... Microsoft, come on!!!
  • Back to the '90..... Unified branding.... I don't know who's in charge here, but it smells like an old nostalgia of.... Whatever man. I don't like....
  • Why don't they just use their actual company name? Microsoft Finance/Weather etc?
    Or
    MS Finance/Weather MSN is just so archaic, outdated and annoying. The only time I ever see that website is when I am changing default landing page in IE on a reinstalled PC.
  • I'm in the UK, and all I'm getting is error 8103012e.
  • Oh is that it, they've taken the SD card support away? What a load of ****!
  • Why isn't MS allowing installation of Weather onto the SD card?? If one by one all keep doing this installation onto the SD card feature will turn out to be a waste !
  • I prefer Bing as well, they keep changing it plus MSN sounds old
  • WTF Microsoft?!?! Why is there still no "Exercise Tracker" for the WP app?! It's been in the regular Windows version from day 1. I've submitted suggestions/feedback repeatedly from the app to add it in. How is this STILL missing?! Infuriating!!!!!!
  • The MSN News and the MSN Sports apps now open the browser when I click on an article.. MS fix pls.. :(
  • Bing Bang?
  • For people wondering history, MSN(The Microsoft Network) started as a dial up service for Windows 95... Yea, Windows 95 beta lasted for almost a year and I got free dial up internet as a beta tester :)
  • If you wanna see majority opinion on Bing just go see 9gag and such. Or even Youtube videos.. And no I'm a super Microsoft fan.
  • NO SD? Lame!
  • Huge mistake, Microsoft.  MSN has always been--and always will be--associated with garbage, the lowest common denominator.
  • I have now deleted all those apps from my phone.  I will not use stuff with the horrible MSN brand.
  • The brand 'MSN'... ughhh...that's a good reason to uninstall all those apps! I just did...
  • What about Bing dictionary (en - ch)?
  • Bing had become a four letter word for many people. I gave my daugther a Nokia Icon and switched her from a Samsung galaxy. She saw that Bing was the default search engine and immediately became irritated. She hadn't even used the search engine before! MSN is a great rebranding decision.
  • Enough with the rebranding! Windows CE, Pocket PC, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, Windows, etc. Zune, Xbox Music MSN, Bing, MSN Windows Pro, Windows Business, Windows Pro Office Pro, Office Plus, Office Pro Plus   Each edition has different naming conventions for the same product. I did like someone's comment about make the search named Cortana or powered by Cortana.
  • Won't install to sd card and fails to install when O move it back to phone memory for weather & News. Ok I. Don't really care about the name Bing seems fine to me and both bing weather and news work perfectly prior to update I'll stick to my current version until it's fixed.
    Please sort it out Microsoft.
    Btw in the UK wp platform is growing daily recently went into phone store 5 out of the six customers purchased Windows phone the sixth bought an iPhone in the UK wp is definitely growing.
  • This changes everything.... Errr I mean nothing.
  • Weather is inaccurate (I prefer Weather Underground as its source), News apps are buggy (It's ALWAYS giving me US news, despite unchecking it), everything else is irrelevant in my life. Besides, Cortana does just about all of it.
  • Disappointed...new updates for the rebranding not allowing app to installed or moved to SD card.
    Huge dampener for guys with limited phone memory
  • Why no sd card support?
  • All MSN Apps are now available for Windows desktops and tablets
  • These renamed apps can no longer be installed on the SD card, which was the only way i could have then on my HTC 8S. Boo!
  • I prefer it having 'Bing Branding'. But MSN does sound a lot better.
  • I preferred Bing branding. Yet again, MS (sadly) leaning towards the US market. I think the News app tile has a better font now, but I might just be imagining it.
  • the new msn homepage has launched in the UK aswell and im liking it.
  • Bing rewards still hasn't changed to MSN rewards  :P
  • we all have our prefered search engins and that is our choice,What i dont see the need for is the mindless arguments as if people are going to be pursuaded to change because of dumb comments,And talk of wars past and presant, a lot of people died in these wars and thats what should be remembered,and cannot be used to try and settle some mindless argument as to which search engin should be used or not, i am sure that all the search engins have thire pro,s and cons so less war and more peace please.