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Will the HP Elite x3 be super expensive? What are Pogo pins? Does it have stereo speakers? And can anyone buy one?

For the first time, Microsoft has a phone from a partner that is not aimed at the consumer market but is instead a 100 percent through and through a business device. It is a phone with a purpose and already a long list of companies who are itching for it.

You may have a lot of questions about new HP Elite x3 Windows phone so let's get to it and try to answer them FAQ style.

Why did HP make this phone?

HP Elite x3

HP is the world's largest retailer of PCs and computing for business. They sell servers, PCs, tablets, laptops, printers, accessories, software, and more to companies all around the world.

The one thing they don't sell? Phones.

Companies evidently approached HP with this kink since ideally those firms would buy everything - servers, PCs, tablets, and mobile phones – all in one package. As of right now, companies overwhelming use – and prefer Windows PC, but they are left with Android or iOS for smartphones often through the less secure BYOD (Bring your own device) system at work.

With Windows 10 Mobile HP saw an opportunity to create a phone from scratch that would complete their portfolio. Even more interesting is that there are already many companies interested in deploying the Elite x3 to reduce costs in the field.

In fact, HP notes that they already have 30 companies under NDA working with them to adopt the Elite x3 for their businesses.

The Elite x3 has like…every feature. How? Why?

HP Elite x3

When you look at the Elite X3's specifications, which you can find here in full detail, it is hard to think of something they did not put on this phone.

So why so much stuff? Simple. Companies asked for it.

HP did not design this phone in a vacuum. Instead, they went and spoke to their enterprise customers and asked what their ideal smartphone was. The result is the Elite x3, which admittedly seems like a fantasy phone drawn by some of you in comments.

For instance, they wanted to include an iris scanner because in rugged conditions out in the field a fingerprint reader may be hard to access. Then again, many companies are used to fingerprint readers, but still find iris scanners too premature. So HP is including both.

When I asked HP Senior Product Manager John Hong, who lead the development of the Elite x3, about why they went with 4GB of RAM instead of 3GB and he wryly responded "more is always better". You can't argue with that.

The Elite x3 was also built by some people who used to work at Nokia, Microsoft, and other companies familiar with high-end smartphones. When you start from an idea where there are no limits, the Elite x3 is what you get.

The Elite x3 is going to be super expensive, right?

HP has not announced the price of the Elite x3 and due to the impressive specs, many are assuming it will cost a fortune.

Update: HP has now revealed that the Elite x3 starts at $699 US/699 EUR or about $150 less than a 64GB iPhone 6s Plus.

Not quite.

Many of the costs associated with ultra-high-end smartphones these days are due to marketing. You don't have to look much further than Samsung or Apple to see how much cash can be burned through to reach the public.

HP does not have that problem. The Elite x3 is not going to be sold at Best Buy or your local carrier. There won't be primetime commercials for it, and they are not even targeting regular consumers. This phone is for companies to buy by the dozens, hundreds, or even thousands.

That lack of overhead means HP can keep the cost of the Elite x3 very competitive, and that is their intention.

These details are not to say it will be cheap. In fact, at first, you will likely need to buy the Elite x3 and Desk Dock as a bundle, which will drive up the cost. Later, HP may sell the phone by itself, and they told me its pricing would be on-par with what any flagship smartphone retails for these days.

How fast is the Snapdragon 820?

HP's early benchmarking puts the processor somewhere between a Core i3 and Core i5 for performance, but that should be taken with a grain of salt. In some of our early tests it did, however, get 3x the performance of the Lumia 950 running a Snapdragon 808.

Can anyone buy this phone?

HP Elite x3 camera

Although HP is aiming this phone squarely (and solely) at businesses, yes, consumers will be able to buy it too.

Details are limited, but you should be able to purchase the phone direct through HP and even Microsoft, who will more than likely sell the phone through their online and physical retail stores.

At this time, there is no reason to expect traditional consumer retail chains or carriers to stock this phone. This lack of availability is a good thing as it means there is a lot less pressure from the consumer market on HP.

Will the battery last all day?

The HP Elite x3 packs a massive 4150 mAh battery. Compared to the Lumia 1520's 3400 mAh battery and it is very likely the Elite x3 will do very well. After all, the phone is built for business users out in the field so having not to charge very often is important.

Toss in the Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0, USB Type-C and Qi wireless charging and the Elite x3 seemingly does everything right for power management.

Can it run classic Windows desktop apps?

HP Elite x3 Mobile Extender

Yes and no. The Elite x3 is still a Snapdragon 820 processor, and it cannot run Win32 apps directly. Instead, it is limited to just apps from the Windows Store.

However, and this is the big deal here, HP has enabled software virtualization so that companies can take their legacy desktop apps and run them through the cloud to the HP Workspace software on the Elite x3. As a result, when companies run the Elite x3 in Continuum mode they can run virtualized desktop apps remotely but securely.

This ability makes the Elite x3 close enough for businesses as an all in one device. It has the security and strength through Citrix and Salesforce plus onboard enterprise-level VPN to let IT departments manage the devices remotely.

What are Pogo pins?

The Elite x3 has five metal circles on the back of the device. These are called pogo pins, and they serve as a hardware interface between the phone and other accessories.

The idea here is that an ISV (independent software vendor) or accessory company can create "jackets" for the phone to add features like an IR scanner, track inventory, or a rugged jacket with a larger battery pack.

HP sees the pogo pins as a way to put the Elite x3 in hospitals, rugged environments, mass retail, etc.

Think of the Elite x3 as a phone for businesses, executives, but also replacing the old Windows CE devices used in retail or factories.

With its pogo pins/jackets, IP 67 designation and ability to pass MIL-STD810G testing the Elite x3 is meant to go anywhere in the world regardless of the conditions.

Does it support wireless charging?

Yes. I am told it support Qi and PMA wireless charging.

What kind of fingerprint sensor is it and why was it not on the demo units?

The fingerprint scanner I am told is the same type found in the current Nexus 6P, which has had very positive feedback (some have called it the best fingerprint reader available). If so, that means HP is sourcing the FPC1025 sensor developed by Fingerprint Cards AB. That sensor can read dry or wet fingerprints in 360-degrees, with a resolution of 508 dots per inch.

Interestingly, at this time, Windows 10 Mobile does not have the drivers to enable this feature, so HP is working with (and waiting on) Microsoft for those drivers at the OS level.

Finally, the Elite x3 prototypes were saw were some of the first ones made and there is still some final engineering to take place. The fingerprint scanner, when integrated, will be on the back below the camera.

Are there stereo Bang & Olufsen speakers? Why?

Yes.

The Elite x3 features dual-front facing Bang & Olufsen speakers. There are two reasons for this choice (1) HP and Bang & Olufsen just have a long-standing partnership, and B&O speakers are already used in HP's high-end laptops (2) the Elite x3 is meant to really excel at making Skype calls.

The Elite x3 also features three integrated omnidirectional microphones with HP Active Noise Cancellation Software and an impressive 8MP front-facing camera that combines two images for better low-light performance. The phone also has a Cat 6 LTE modem and 2x2 AC WiFi to ensure the best connectivity around.

All of that technology is there to provide excellent performance during Skype calls, conference calls, etc.

Why does it come out 'later this summer'?

HP is announcing the phone in late February, but the Elite x3 is not expected to hit until later this summer. The reason is simple. HP wants to pilot the Elite x3 with around 30 partners, build up the support channels and documentation, and work with companies to virtualize their software so that it can run through the cloud to the Elite x3 for remote usage of desktop apps through Continuum.

Doing all of that while trying to keep your phone secret is likely impossible. Instead, they are very open about the device so that they can trial it, refine and have it ready to ship with nothing holding it back.

Also, by that time Windows 10 Mobile Redstone 1 should be available and the OS more matured.

Will it be sold outside the US?

Yes. HP will be selling the Elite x3 in the U.S. with certification from AT&T. However, it is unlocked and can run on any LTE network with supported bands (so T-Mobile should be okay as well). HP is interested in getting it to work with Verizon, but there is nothing yet to announce.

HP will also be selling the phone in at least ten non-US markets around launch time as well, and the phone will support up to 15 different bands and be offered as a dual-SIM device too.

Will this be the only phone from HP?

HP would not give details, but they did drop some signals that the Elite x3 was but one of a few devices in this "family" they are considering for mobile. Different price points, sizes, and spec'd devices are likely coming down the road too, and they do not see this as a one-off for them.

How is the phone?

I only spent around 30-40 minutes with the HP Elite x3, but I came away very impressed. The hardware is premium, and it feels great to hold. It obviously has every spec and feature available today, which makes it quite remarkable.

Regarding size, it is smaller than a Lumia 1520 but obviously packs much more power. It is also shockingly light and thin considering how much technology is jammed into it.

The AMOLED display (likely Samsung) was great looking; the buttons for power and volume were done well, and they phone's styling was smooth and graceful.

When you combine the Elite x3 with the Mobile Extender and Desk Dock, it is an impressive array of hardware.

Would I use it over a Lumia 950 or Lumia 950 XL? I would say there is a very high chance. The Elite x3 has a 16MP f/2.0 camera, which sounds decent enough, but likely does not perform as well as a Lumia PureView. That's fine after all this is a business phone, but that is the only drawback I see. Well, that and no Glance screen.

I think HP did a fantastic job with the Elite x3. Moreover, since it is not dependent on consumers for success, it has a very high chance of making a significant dent in the business world. That is an area where Microsoft's mobile ambitions were jettisoned years ago, so it is exciting to see this device lead the way back.

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Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

169 Comments
  • Wow...... Its just awesome
  • Wow, 30 global partners. That's at least a million phone sales even before general availability. I work for a big International that buys HP, and it would be awesome to see these in our hardware catalog after we migrate to Win10.
  • no no no no. 30 partners would at best mean 30,000 devices. I wonder how many would order more than one thousand of these devices, given it is the first of its kind. Over time though same 30 companies can place orders for much more, but reaching a million would take some time.
  • Exactly. Then again they will obviously (?) market it to many more companies. In any event it is still a tough battle with most companies already heavily invested in iOS and Androids, and in part as the employees want those supported. And this will be an expensive phone even after excluding the marketing costs Daniel pointed out. But if any WM phone has a fighting change to capture the attention of managers, I guess this is the one. And then key can get Lumia 650s for the common folk in their organization. ;-P Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • The Forum is JUMPING with discussion on this one: http://forums.windowscentral.com/hp-elite-x3/
  • Looks good, so I hope it's not expensive. it can be good for Windows Mobile platform to have this kind of phone and more big name companies supporting the platform, it's always good.
  • It's obvious that it would be expensive.... ;-)
  • No doubt it will be expensive..
  • Nobody is complaining about the plastic this time around.  Is it because people became speechless after reading the stunning specs?  :-)
  • It isn't aimed at the consumer market.  
  • Yup, that is a criticism reserved for Lumia phones alone
  • I think this plastic is more like the old Lumias.. the 1520.. non-removable battery, sealed high quality phone... Nobody complained back then because the device was so premium... This will be the same.
  • Well, you can take my company's money and shut up.
  • Whoa
  • Kind of a side note, but now that Msoft is kinda pulling back on being a phone manufacturer wouldnt it be better if they made Glance part of the OS and leave it up to the OEMs to include the hardware or not? I mean, its a pretty huge selling point.
  • Great point Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • And what about Double-Tap to Wake?
  • Also a good thing to add in.
  • Double-tap to wake.  Plus either iris or fingerprint recognition?   I think double-tap is just wasted steps.   I think the fingerprint reader will be able to wake the phone and authorize the user.  Much cleaner.  
  • This. Although, it would be heavily hardware dependent, as it not only relies on a display with built in memory, but also works much better on OLED versus IPS, as only selected pixels will be illuminated and IPS relies on a backlight (wasting battery power). But seeing as these phones are just now being developed, that could become an unspoken hardware requirement for building a Windows Mobile device.
  • OLED screens have the other problem of burn ins.
  • I've had one on my 925 for more than 2.5 years now. No burn in. That is also why Glance moves around the screen like a screensaver.
  • Which is why it is odd that the new version of glance for W10M doesn't move, the version with the new style battery icon that is. Phones that upgrade to 10 but keep the old version of glance with the old battery icon still move.
  • It is OLED or just AMOLED as Daniel said? By the way, does it have the Super Sensitive Touch screen unlike the 950 family? I miss that feature big time.
  • BTW, In enjoying both glance & DTW on my Lumia 1020
  • I don't think MS would put a restriction to it in any form. Only problem is that glance (inluding double tap to wake) would require some degree of hardware integration as well. So its up to the OEMs if they want that feature or not. That will require some effort on their part to include it. As far as HP goes, it will most likely repeat the phrase of Ingen CEO, Hammond, from Jurassic Park, " We spared no expense". So cost would not have been an issue. They took the specs directly from demands of their clients and at business level. Many might not have been too enthusiastic about glance as we 'mere mortals' are. They might just add it during the time of release or may be in their second or third iteration
  • Not every company wants their, say calendar showed on their phones due the Glance, while sitting in a meeting or having a lunch.
  • You can turn glance off. Its still a great option to have though.
  • Wow! If this certifies for Verizon I know what my upgrade is gonna be.
  • Can anyone verify if this will work on Verizon?
  • That is only the problem area for all windows phones. It will surely work with AT&T and most likely work with all other carriers including T-mobile too. However, Verizon acts pretty much like google with windows phones. So it might not work with verizon in the near future.
  • It eventually will if it hasn't been worked our already Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Only 10 non-US markets? That begs the question then: When in India?
  • India may not feature in the list of those 10 countries. It all depends on how open Indian enterpprises are with the idea of replacing their traditional PCs with a phone like this. So far, Indian companies have not shown to much of an eagerness to adopt new or upcoming technologies. They are a bit too conservative for this.
  • This is freekin revolutionary
  • How? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Very nice.
  • Sounds like the laptop style dock is similar to the NexDock at just shop on Indiegogo.  I wonder if this will work the same for other windows phones?  Would be a nice device for my 950 when I travel...
  • Now I think more OEMs (mostly computer guys like Acer, Toshiba, Asus ,Lenovo , dell etc) will come forward for these kind of things.
  • Yes, they will have to in order to compete. What HP has here is a sure winner.
  • No, it not a sure winner. It does have a good chance, but by no means is it given. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Acer already has a device, though it is no where near as good as this one. I am aure Asus and Lenovo will also be contenplating this move. They might also wait to see the final device from HP and wait for the success, or failure, of HP before making a move. In fact, it will be easier for Asus and Lenovo as they already have smartphones of their own. So they can produce something like this or better pretty quickly.
  • No glance? It's just hard to believe that after everything else they put in it that they'd miss that one. Not a deal killer though obviously.
  • I guess it's not a deal killer for enterprise, but for someone who went from a 930 to a 950XL primarily because of Glance it might just stop me from buying it.  If I'm going to own a smartphone, I want it doing something smart even when it's idle!
  • I agree I think if you like glance screen and have had it and use it, it's a big deal breaker for most. Couldn't see myself owning a phone without it tbh. I'd miss it like crazy, no double tap to wake is hard enough to do without on my 950XL
  • I see im not the only one asking about Glance. Guess HP wont get my money..
  • It's not for you,so the complaints mean nothing. You you are not it's intended audience Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • My next phone must have glance and better zoom than the 1020. From the looks of it this 1020 might be my last cell phone.
  • Even I would not buy a phone without glance and tap-to-wake-up feature. But these are enterprises. Their primary need to is run VPNs smoothly, and still have enough juice in the tank to run their apps seamlessly. All the specs lead to that. Glance is at best a 'nice-to-have' feature for them. In any kind of development, you would just have the must-haves first. good to have things follow up in future updates.
  • Windows Phone dead, with Hp working with over 30 companies, it lives on even if it does more on a business level..
  • It's still exposure. And shows that the OS is good enough for business. Remember Apple did the same. They still push hard for business. But windows will always run the business aspect. And HP will help.
  • Well, think about it this way. It will definitely bleed over to the consumer market. I have a Lumia icon that I got from my job and I use it way more than my personal G3. Being that the 930/Icon is such a good looking phone, I have family and friends always asking about it. Besides, my phone always has the duty of taking pics during gatherings. So that kind of marketing is priceless. People are going to bring the X3 home and family and friends are going to lose it :-) instant marketing!!!!
  • Good point
  • Exactly. and don't forget how much consumer sales did Blackberry get at its peak. Unlike Blackberry this is still not a Enterprise only phone or an enterprise only OS.
  • Windows 10 mobile smart phones will stay alive in limited quantities because Windows 10 mobile smart phones are the best smart phones to integrate and use with it's Big brother Operating system Windows 10 which is now on 180 Million Desktop PC's, Servers, Laptops, Tablets, Tablet Laptop Hybrids and ect and more are coming everyday. The Android and Apple  ios operating systems are not really compatable With the Full Windows 10 Operating system that is on devices of variuos types that are growing in number everyday. Businesses know this but the general Public and some tech site writer do not realize this. Microsoft is improving Windows 10 Mobile it will be stable and very useful  More Universal apps will come for Windows 10 mobile smart phones to use.
  • Win10 Mobile isn't dead...
  • I will legit pull out a loan if i have to. HP makes incredible business products
  • Now I fully understand Microsoft Win10M ... for business. Brilliant HP. Remember the hundreds of articles by the tech "journalists and bloggers: "Windows Mobile is dead".
  • Yeah... Now they are writing about HP being doomed
  • LOL true!
  • My follow-up? Who knows...
  • Will it be the king of Windowsphone?
  • It's got a good start..
  • That's too early to say...
    When team Panos is still under "The Surface" of phones ;)
  • This is one phone to rule them all. It's almost a 6incher so it should be a good replacement for people with the 1520....looking at u, rodneyej
  • Please give it a reasonable price hp
  • @Dan, Since Dock has Ethernet port, I guess it can USB tether the phone to internet, Is it right guess?
  • I'm in love.
  • Wireless charging?
  • Qi and PMA. RTFA.
  • I want one! One picture at a time -- LG V10
  • Microsoft should be ashamed of its devices! Unbelievable!
  • @Dan do you think Microsoft will do this same trick for the "surface phone" ?
  • People should be glad that HP created X3 with windows platform. Because companies like HP knows that windows is a serious and powerful operating system.
  • It is interesting and a bit of a kick in the nuts to Google that HP opted to go with the fledgling Windows OS, and that 30 companies are already lined up to purchase them. Perhaps it goes to show that people want to switch, but there hasn't been a compelling enough reason to do it (apps and hardware availability). Gotta say though, being able to run legacy apps through a virtualization app is a game changer (for enterprise at least).
  • The compelling issue for business has nothing to do with apps or hardware availability.  It's almost exclusively about security and secure cross-platform integration.  Most businesses I know don't care how many fart moise programs there are available.  Except. of course, Korean companies.
  • The legacy app will not run on the phone. It will run in remote desktop. Nothing special, if you have AppX deployed.
  • Looks seriously awesome! Wish it had a dedicated camera button, Glance, and double tap to wake but I might finally be willing to overlook such innovative greatness that I've enjoyed on my Lumia's in the past!
  • Nice design... Look like exclusive.. If someone gift me a phone@Lumia 950 or HP elite x3... I choose elite x3-mon....haha who that pokemon.. xD
  • Just a high end phone. Don't see much value in the dock coz there are a million ways to see your phone on a big screen. Also, Windows Mobile 10 isn't going to replace your full Windows work environment, ever. Whatever they are trying to sell it with, virtual or whatever, never works in the real world.
  • Oh. Damn, you should tell HP ASAP.
  • I used to think exactly the same way until I met a student on campus who told me she pretty much does all her work on an iPad. That got me really thinking that not every computer user is a power user/heavy productivity user. Many computer users only need MS word and excel, with a web browser and mail application. That's all they do with their computers. It turns out that many so-called business users are just very basic computer users who just use email and run some basic spreadsheets/write reports. Those are the target market for these devices.
  • In case you haven't noticed, there's a HUGE difference between a student and a businessperson.  A student is a wannabe businessperson so can use cheap and dirty wannabe business computers and wannabe business phones (e.g iToys) so they can read about real business computers and real business phones that run real business software.  A businessperson uses real business computers and real business phones largely because they actually can run real business software they need to get their job done.
  • Real business software is more and more moving to HTML. There is even a 3D-Cad. Only the vendor lock-in keeps the desktop safe ATM.
  • Again you assume that all 'real' business people are heavy PC users, but most times we only think in terms of our field of activity. I myself use major CAD tools, simulation software etc, so I can't even think of a watered down 'PC', but do I represent the majority of use cases? Am I a 'typical' user? With so many 'dumb' terminals in lots of companies these days (think Chromebook style setups) there's the real realization that many users don't require heavy local compute power. Devices like this fit right into those setups. Could as well merge the phone and PC terminal into one device!
  • Shut the f*ck up.
  • MSPoweruser says that it has Glance but you denied.
  • Omg. Speakersssssssss. At last.
  • Looks nice if maby we can buy it Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Interesting phone, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be expensive though! MS needs to implement windowed mode in continuum before this phone launches officially! That is really critical for PC-like use, even if it does not (yet) run win-32 applications!
  • Yes, multiple windows in Continuum would go a long way towards making it feel like "real" Windows. Even if we have to give up on running separate apps on the phone, I think most would be willing if it allowed at least two apps on screen at a time. The way the processors are going, I think this should be feasible now, depending on the app. Certainly running the calculator over Excel would be fine, but probably not gaming while watching a movie, for example.
  • As a business user im keeping both eyes firmly on this development, just need Intel to get x86 processors into phones and bang!
  • Summer can't get here fast enough, lol.
  • Seems like they "forgot" the camera part, just put on some average camera and no button on a top of the class phone, it's a shame.
  • Wow! I'm putting my kidney on Craigslist and preordering.
  • Camera button?
  • There is no dedicated camera button, unfortunately. It's a really cool phone, but that is one of its omissions (along with a lack of capacitive buttons and no Glance). It's biggest flaw, though, is that "The Elite x3 is not going to be sold at Best Buy or your local carrier. There won't be primetime commercials for it". I'm not even saying that HP should be running commercials for it, but Microsoft certainly should on their behalf. They need people to know about this concept, as it's pretty much what they're banking on Windows 10 to be.
  • Trust me Daniel, consumers will also want this phone. These specs sound too good to be true. These specs sound right of from what power users consumers want. I can already see it that these users just pushed their company CEOs for demand for a better phone. So in a way it is consumer curated;) The only two things left it's a further maturation of windows 10 mobile (with these specs Microsoft must deliver a better OS, more stable OS, more consistent design, stylus support, landscape start menu, two app snap for continuum minimum and interactive live tiles, otherwise windows 10 mobile will be to far behind the hardware and users will be disappointed) and stylus support. ​ ​ ​
  • Seems like a nice phone to me, and I'm looking for an upgrade to my Icon, but I believe the camera will prevent me from buying this one.
  • Specs only put u ahead temporarily. This phone is just significantly more feature rich with the best tech of the day seemingly in a pretty leakage. The last part is the difference between the hp v3 and the 950xl.
  • Hey Microsoft, Can you do better? - This phone blasted the other windows phones a bit
  • They absolutely could top it, if they want. The question becomes wanting to expose phones to mass malware. They could put out an x86-capable phone that resembles a Surface Pro and really take a swing at the Elite x3, but x86-capable means legacy viruses, just like legacy programs. That might be something businesses don't want to expose customers to, and something that the general consumer DEFINITELY wants to stay away from, I'm sure. If Microsoft dared to, putting out a Surface Phone with an Atom chip would definitely have the ability to top this. Maybe they got SD 820 as well and get the Win32 bridge running to give software support without viruses? The one thing that Microsoft really seems to have a leg up with will be the camera. That's an unrivaled thing in the Windows Mobile space, no one else is doing something similar to PureView. They maybe have a more-positive brand name in Surface, sompare to HP, as well. After that, it'll be strengths vs. user preferense. How mad will other OEMs get if Microsoft attacks and undercuts HP with a hardware package like HP's Elite offering? It always seemed like Microsoft was trying to stimulate competition among other OEMs, not drive them out, so they have to be careful. It'll be an interesting thing to watch.
  • I wouldn't be surprised if MS eventually leased the patent for Pureview to other OEMs on the condition that it only be used in Windows devices, well, except maybe Samsung.
  • That's not a bad idea
  • MS OIS(tm) technology
  • I expect the Surface Phone to be at least this level of awesome. The only thing that would hold me back from buying it as a regular consumer is the camera performance.
  • I know this is two months after you posted, but since then Intel has stopped development of their mobile chips.  There will be no Intel based Surface phone.  If a Surface phone is released, it will also be ARM based.
  • Why do they have to copy the stupid placement of the fingerprint reader? as forprice I am guessing $899.  
  • Really? Having handled phones with the fingerprint reader on the back and on the front, I have to say that the one on the back is suprisingly nicely placed. It is a natural location for the finger. Also it allows for a smaller bezel on the front, which is always a plus.
  • Is HP Workplace going to be available for consumers too? I guess not, but it can't hurt to ask.
  • I'm definitely going to see if my supervisor will look into these when they come out. He was thinking some SP4s, but if HP can offer phones that can do close to a SP's work, that'd be fantastic. It's really disappointing to hear it won't be Verizon-friendly, becuase you're again locking out half the US mobile market. I'm sure there are Verizon-centric businesses who won't even consider this thing without Verizon network support, so that's a slight disappointment. This is still insanely impressive. If the Extender's priced reasonably and able to work with any Continuum device, I'd consider picking it up for my 950. I can't help but wonder why the whole setup couldn't work with other W10M devices, minus interference from HP.
  • Feels great!!
  • Oh my goodness. This is insane! That's, spec for spec the best smartphone on the world now (except for the camera).
  • Ok, waiting on you Mr. Evan! Blow our minds already!
  • it's an interesting entry and play by HP and Microsoft. Definetly geared toward the enterprise market. The virtualizaion part is interesting, but again a business solution more than a consumer sell point. I wish them luck, it's definetly a powerhose. Samsung however just killed with their S7 Edge + Oculus VR headset a few minutes ago.  It will be interesting to see what apple is able to come up with.
  • Maybe a new "ocean silver" iPhone? :P
  • Wow! Very tempting...
  • If this is coming to AT&T, I found my 1520 replacement. Since they're not subsidizing phones, I'll get it using the AT&T Next Plan.
  • Ths is what the 'Surface Phone' should be.
  • First WP that I've wanted to buy in a long time.
  • Impressive, never really thought highly of "HP" as I always thought them to make inferior products. However this may change my mind. Smaller than 1520? Interesting.
  • A very smart strategy, Microsoft and HP could very well corner the business mobile device market together with this sort of multi-pronged effort.
  • Hopfully it will cost less than the 950/XL currently does...then that will force 950/XL to really drop in price as well...then I would be willing to buy the 950/XL...Then I don't mind, because it's still an upgrade from my Z30...Then it's ok, because I was really sad when it became really real for me that BB OS10 really is dead, and I loved the z30 (but nothing really after that from BB)...Then all this came out from W10M and I was like, this looks cool...Then I was sad because the only affordable W10 phone was too low-end for me...Then this announcement about HP Elite x3...then, when it comes out, hopefully it will cost less than the 950/XL currently does...Then that will force 950/XL to really drop in price as well...then...
  • Fantasitic! 
  • This is like the Surface Book of phones ... Amazing
  •   No ; it doesn't have a stylus. Or a detachable keyboard with dedicated graphics card and extra battery.
  • Amazing article
  • I have consistently purchased Android phones for years, but I would drop them like a bad habit for this phone. Looks like an awesome Windows 10 phone with the kind of versatility no other phone has.
  • it is hard to think of something they did not put on this phone.
    Glance. Camera button. Do that and then I can't say no.  
  • W.O.W. The virtualization features are a game changer.
  •   If only it had a stylus,  it would be perfect. Hopefully by the time it has gone round those 30 pre launch companies,  the feedback will have led to one being added.
  • Boy...I want to be excited, I really do.  I just can't see the advantage of having a phone run your laptop.  It can't be better than the discrete components (a good smartphone and a good ultrabook.  So, the advantage is it's cheaper?  by how much?  and for which employees is a lower-power ultrabook running apps in a VM a good tradeoff...maybe the sales function, and others on the road who just use their PC as communication tools?  Not that there isn't a market for that, but it's definitely niche.   What am I missing?
  • I'm only guessing myself but I think you're missing the fact that it has unbelievable battery life and that a phone is more portable than a laptop or Ultrabook. Hybrid devices are in my eyes the future - it's the next merging of tech, a bit like how music players have mostly been merged into/replaced by phones.
  • I hope you are right...the tech is pretty cool. I'm just not seeing anything compelling in terms of actual functionality. I'm a sales guy...I need a phone for always on communication, plus all my navigation and calendar functions. My company is happy to pay for my data plan, but otherwise we are BYOD, like many other firms. They do give me an ultrbook with a pre configured VPN, and other company apps. How does this change the model to be more beneficial to me AND to my company? What's the compelling reason to migrate? Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • I think you answered your own question in your first post. This could be cheaper. Not just the hardware, but also data and device management since they could be standardized and done in bulk; maybe some further savings in IT due to reduced complexity of supporting phones vs. full PCs. Posted from my Nexus 5X
  • Actually, I'm not sure that this level of power is relegated to niche groups. I'd wager the majority of folks could get by fine with something in the ballpark of a modern Atom processor. Entire businesses are run on Office 365 or Google Docs. Yes there will be millions who need desktop Office, or 3D modeling tools or whatever- but Sales, Marketing, C-suite, HR, Legal mostly push around emails and documents. In many cases they might be tied to some legacy desktop program they built years ago; maybe they can virtualize that. The problem up until now was that a mobile device didn't support desktop-style computing (keyboard, mouse, monitor) in order to make it comfortable to work with one all day. I think this still needs some further development, though. The lack of windowing is still an obvious limitation. But Build is around the corner, so who knows... Posted from my Nexus 5X
  • I feel like I have to have a phone with glance. Galaxy S7 has an always on screen now... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Great phone, those specs are amazing! Unfortunately the 950XL and 920 have ruined me. I can't go back to a single flash camera with 16mp. But I WILL be looking at the second and third generations of this phone. Looks very promising. Great job HP!! Hero phone!!
  • They can make different models for consumers later, after this takes off and crushes the competition like i6 and s7 etc
  • No glance screen
  • Who else is wetting themselves?
  • I'd buy this phone. Looks snazzy.
  • They have to use pc os in phone like the tablet so we can run all apps what is the usee of this spec 1gb of ram is high enough to run all games and apps in win10m
  • Acer Jade Primo, HP Elite x3, Vaio windows smartphone...... And counting...
  • this is a must have phone !
  • I don't see Microsoft trying to make a Surface Phone due to the Elite X3. This is for good reason too. Balmer really screwed HTC by claiming they were the preferred vendor than jumping in the sheets with Nokia. I don't see Nadella undercutting HP by building another business phone that competes with the Elite X3. The Elite X3 is a beast anyway, and I see it satisfying those who were looking for a Surface Phone.
  • Off course they will, for consumers and carriers to buy and sell
  • Can't we have desktop in our mobiles?
  • So, does HP say all this? Or are these statements just your assumptions?
  • Seems faster...
  • But will it run Chrysis?
  • This is exactly the kick in the pants that MS needed! Hopefully HP can motivate them quickly to improve upon all the remaining W10M bugs, provide the needed drivers in time, and encourage other OEM's to compete! Glance would be awesome though. Find a way to make that happen MS/HP and take my money!!!
  • so we don't need surface phone? will see
  • Does this mean that HP isn't going to be "the ink company" now?
  • It will be interesting to see what HP's distribution channels are.  Likely (profitable) direct to business, which means avalability to the (unprofitable) consumer market will be restricted or limited.
  • Very interesting!!!!!
  • Awesome phone, makes me want to pull out my iPaq 5500 :)  The only downer is no dedicated camera button, and (depending on spec, need to check) no OIS. I do not care for a replaceable battery, my Lumia 1020 doesn't have one either. All I need to see now is the Surface phone specs and availability to make up my mind.        
  • My question is "which version of Windows 10 mobile the device was running?". I guess it wan't answered...
  • "This lack of availability is a good thing as it means there is a lot less pressure from the consumer market on HP." Hehe, well I guess that's a way to put a positive spin... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • If they have included so many features, why keep out glance? It may be part of the final version.
    Iris and fingerprint scanner both seems unnecessary. Dont see any real purpose in having both.
    CPU less laptop is a great idea. If more and more business applications and software are created to work in continuum mode, this phone is a winner
  • THose pins mean that Hospitals will be able to attach scanners to the phones and give one to every nurse to track medication, documentation and patients.  On top of that if MS can find a way to get these phones to work without a provider but with Lync Servers, a hospital could remove IP and traditional phones and issue these as 'dumb' devices that will work on the hospitals network, just like a phone and you can have direct access to the employee rather than the employees 'area'.  This could really change large business communications models if LYNC is involved....
  • can it shoot 4k video?
  • Question, HP said they used input from their partners to build this phone.  If so, isn't UPS and FEDEX 2 of their bigger clients?  My thought is these are replacing those weird notebook things you have to sign on.  That right there could add millions of units sold to the Windows10 mobile ecosystem....
  • Hi Dan. What is the Ethernet port on the docking station used for? Can the phone be connected to a firms network drive to access files stored on the company's server? I work for a local authority and we have just been trialling a 950 with Continuum and this was the main complaint from our IT department, that the phone could not be connected to our network. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • How can it use 4 gb ram wen it support only 32bit?
  • I was wondering exactly the same. Wasted 1GB of RAM.
  • Actually I can think of something they did not put on this phone: AWS bands. I am yet to find one source that claims it runs on AWS.
  • DO WANT
  • I am a lumia 640xl user & Ilike the concept of hp elite x3 verymuch than nothing , But if it has glance screen it will be eeven better. It supports otg/not. I will definitely buy this phone.