Nokia has today unveiled and announced the Lumia 1020 for AT&T. The Windows Phone is the latest flagship handset from the Finnish manufacturer, following the Lumia 920, Lumia 928 and Lumia 925. What's important here is the jump to a new group, no longer are we wrapped up in the 9xx series. So what's the Lumia 1020 all about and is it exactly as leaked renders and information suggested?
If you've not been following our coverage on the Lumia 1020 (codenamed "EOS"), it's been a rather eventful adventure. Multiple leaks have painted an interesting picture of what we can expect the next Lumia to look like, sporting a 41MP PureView camera. Ever since Nokia released the Pureview 808 running Symbian, Windows Phone consumers have been calling out for a similar handset running Microsoft's OS. That time has come with yet another high-end Windows Phone being made available.
Specifications wise, the Lumia 1020 sports a 1.5GHz dual-core CPU, 2GB RAM, 32GB internal storage, 4.5-inch AMOLED display (with Gorilla Glass 3, PureMotion HD+ ClearBlack, High Brightness Mode, Sunlight readability and Super sensitive touch), PureView 41MP rear shooter (6 lens optics, High resolution zoom 3x, Autofocus, Xenon Flash), 1.2MP HD wide angle front-facing camera, 2000mAh battery and all the usual bells and whistles one would expect from a Nokia Windows Phone.
As well as the confirmed look and hardware, the Lumia 1020 also features new innovations and improvements to the overall user experience. We're focusing on photography here. Multiple levels of zoom, automatic face detection and dual-capture (oversampled image is for sharing on social networks and more). The Windows Phone processes up to 5x more megapixels than competing hardware. "You can literally find a needle in a haystack."
When can you pick yours up and how much will you be looking to fork out? Consumers will be able to get their hands on the Lumia 1020 on AT&T starting July 26th (pre-orders start July 16th) for $299 on contract, as well as operators outside the US. The Lumia 1020 is available in matte white, black and yellow.
Be sure to remain tuned to our feeds for the latest from the floor, as well as the Nokia website.
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Nokia announces the Lumia 1020 Windows Phone on AT&T for $299, coming July 26
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The only solace I can take from this timed exclusivity is that by the time it's released on Verizon, the GDR3 update should be out so it could possibly have a 1080p screen, quadcore processor and expandable storage, all in an aluminum casing (Here's hoping).
Don't mind me, just another super jealous Verizon customer.
yay AT&T so will be a Rogers exclusive in canada.
Another hyped device tied to exlusive providers and later people will be surprised when it doesn't have amazing sale numbers.
Everyone is talking about prices and so on. Anyway even impressed that Nokia stepped up and announced an amazing phone that will be coming out in 2 weeks? I personally think that's big. It's keeping it's hype rather than fading away.
Oh cool, all the colors are matte :)
I think ATT did this because they priced 920 so low that they could not do price cuts to get pple to buy. and at 450, the 920 was not that appealing. at 300 they have a lot of room to market by giving specials etc.. I am sure they didnt want to price it very low from the start.
Can someone explain how a small outer lens with less apeture and a high MP count can make better pictures? I may wait for some reviews on the phone, to learn about the camera (and a price drop since a better model may come later this year). I love the phone, but also, can some mention something about how good the front camera is?
Lookie here. Looks like a ploy to lure in people who will buy something regardless of price. iPhone consumers do, but will Lumia lovers? Answer: Probably.
Wow. Matte white, that my friends, is awesome!
Yeah i'm also happy that the Lumia 1020 will come in matte yellow, good decision from Nokia!
Best regards!
Are there no high-end WP8 devices with a SD card? I love my Lunia 920, but I am constrained by the 32 GB size limit. I know there are cloud services, but streaming music from the cloud eats up my data plan. I'm holding on for a 64 GB WP8 phone or one with an SD card slot. But, if that doesn't happen, then I guess it's Galaxy Tab 3 for me. Nothing against Android. They have a great product. I just love WP8. Hopefully something will come out by the end of the year. Here's hoping...
My problems may be solved! Yay! Thank you Microsoft!
http://wmpoweruser.com/the-microsoft-store-to-carry-both-32-gb-and-64-gb...
Nope. The Microsoft Store has updated it site and removed the 64 GB version. So, now only the 32 GB is left. Oh well, Galaxy Note is a great phone. I'm sure the Note 3 will be great.
$299 on contract? Did Nokia pull a play from Blackberry?!
Looks like me and the 8X will be together a good while longer.
Stop. Giving. AT&T. All. Your. Business. WP will never be adopted if they keep giving AT&T all their business. BY the time their devices make it to the other carriers, they're outdated. The lumia 925 comes to Tmo, days later Nokia releases a model with DOUBLE the RAM. Geeze.
Is the 1020 going to be at&t exclusive and if yes for how Long is the exclusivity? Also is the 1020 going to be available at Microsoft or Nokia or anyone else unlocked?
High res images from the Lumia 1020.....all the better for the NSA to spy on you with.
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well ok. I was hoping Nokia would have a a couple of surprises like maybe a bigger screen and bigger battery, those were a couple of reasons why I sold my 920 for a HTC One. It looks like i'll have to wait until next year and hope Nokia bumps the specs for their next superphone.
I am a little surprised at the people defending the price of this phone. Either they are taking on the fan boy mentality or they are in denial. The phone is essentially a Lumia 928 with an extra 1 GB of RAM and a higher res camera for $250 more. Looking at it another way, the flagship Android phones come with faster processors and higher capacity batteries for $50-100 less. Either way, off-contract the Galaxy S4 and the Lumia 1020 are pretty similarly priced, so it appears that AT&T feels like charging more on-contract just because they think they can.
I already have a nice pocket sized camera that can take plenty good pictures to use when I don't want to lug my DSLR around. So in my case I would be essentially paying a $250 premium to combine the two. Uhh, no thanks, and it appears many others feal the same way.
I'm not sure and I think its too soon to say, but I am forcasting a varient of the Lumia 1020 on Verizon and possibly even T-Mobile if it follows suit as the Lumia 920, possibly when 1080p screens are supported.
Enough with the 1080p crap. Your eyes cannot render that res. It is a gimmick to make tech goober's think they are special but the only thing that happens is that your battery drains faster.
The same goes for the whiners who want quad cores when Windows phone does not need them.
I think a lot of folks are missing the point about $299 being way overpriced. It's not at all that the 1020 might not be worth it, or deserving of it given the incredible technology inside... it's the context. WP has thus far failed to really prove itself as a viable 3rd option behind iOS and Android. I hate it, but it remains niche, nothing more. Nokia is dying a long slow death against Samsung and HTC and Apple.
Look, this is like a football team being down 56-7 late in the 4th quarter, that comes out with an *amazing*, complex, perfectly executed razzle-dazzle play... a running play. That nets them 9 yards. It's not that it wasn't an amazing play, it's that.... really? That's it? At this point?
Nokia needs to get this phone into as many hands as possible, as fast as humanly possible, period. Pricing it at $300 and locking into ATT just doesn't make a lot of sense from where I'm sitting.
$300? Ouch. Thousands collectively just said "never mind."
Do you think that AT&T are ever open to 'early' contract renewal? I got a 900 which is not eligible for upgrade until next march - a phone they pretty much made obsolete with WP8 ..
Do people forget how quickly phones are discounted? Even on AT&T? The 920 launched at $99 and quickly went on sale 2 weeks later at $49. Anyone remember in the forums people trying to call AT&T to get them to give them a refund due to the price drop? I did and got my credit. Amazon had it for nothing shortly thereafter. These phones, especially WP devices, never stay at full price for long. Deals are always available during the Black Friday - Christmas shopping season.
where is the link to the video presentantion again?
Go to youtube.com and type in Nokia, click the first video and start watching :)
Best regards!
Well I still have a year left on contract so it will probably be free by the time I can upgrade (trying to look on the bright side of me not being able to get this phone now).
Simply put, a "disappointment". They should have just named it "Lumia 941". This is not a succesor to L920. Most of the main hardware components are exactly same. Same processor, same display (or atleast same as 925), same battery (biggest disappointment). I atleast expected a higher clock speed dual core processor as we already know quadcore is not yet supported. just increasing RAM to process the imaging is not sufficient. Dont even get me started on the pricing. I'll guarantee that the price will come down within a month. I'll wait for the next gen lumia
I want to respectfully disagree with you. This camera is light-years ahead of what is currently available on any mobile phone (with the exception of the 808). The Lumia 920 (which I own) is a nearly flawless device (yes, I am bias, lol), but the Lumia 1020 deserves the name and the title of "successor". The camera is an unparalleled upgrade in it's own right.
As for the price, yeah, it'll drop in a month or two so everyone can relax.
(and "941 doesn't sound nearly as smooth as "Ten-Twenty")
just upgrading camera isn't enough (however good the camera is). The camera performance on 9xx series is pretty darn good. For most of the ppl 9xx series is good enough. You have to offer atleast a little more than an awesome camera. With the same processor 1020 is not going to be so "flawless" i fear. And with the same mAh battery there are going to be lots of complaints i expect. Neverthless lets agree to disagree ;). I'm going to wait till GDR3 update and then make an upgrade. I'm content with my L800 even now :). I'm one of the earliest supporters of lumia range phones, cant bear to see them fail which i'm afraid may happen with this phone atleast in terms of volumes
Well, 1080P isn't supported yet, and not everyone wants a 5" screen. You can thank the complainers for not increasing the battery size. They likely didn't increase it to try and keep it as thin as possible aside from the hump. I thought the the thickness of the 920 was fine, so I would be fine increasing the size to get a couple hundred more milliamps. Oh well, it still appears to be a great phone if the price is right.
You have a very good point still :) As for me, I'm know that things move quickly and this just a warm-up compared to what they'll likely release later this year. I hate how often new devices come out, but at least Microsoft is extending support for them through update (that if carriers allow it (wtf?!)).
Wish it had quad-core processor and bigger battery for extended hours. Looks like the Nokia 'Phablet' with the stylus might just be next device. The 1020 is gorgeous mhen. Love it!!
299$ is not alot for an high-end phone?
One awesome phone to promote and people will notice it, if they think its too expensive ATT will (hopefully) point them in the direction of the L920/5/8 area. And so more people will come over to WP. And that is a good thing.'
I run L920 and will prob pick up the 1020 as its time for me to extend my current provider.
Does the thought of a matte white color option sound sexy to anyone else?!
If I didn't just get a 920, I would have got this phone. Damn!
If the specs are the why didn't they put the 41 mp sensor in 920??????
If iPhone buyers will drop $299 on a 32GB iPhone which IMO is seriously inferiour to the 1020 in most any way why is this so bad.. Just because Americans have grown up on getting phones on credit and think they get a cheap deal does nit mean the rest of the world does.. This phone will sell at $699 outright.. IMO you would be better of buying it as such and getting a SIM Only deal with it. I would hope the US telecom maffia will not charge the same for SIM only as they do for a contract with a phone..
Telfonica will get the global variant/64GB version probably around €699 before tax and subsidies which in most european countries will probably mean it will goes for around €749 or so. Lot of money, but you then get a €20/mo SIM only deal with unlimited data.
I am getting so pissed that verizon keeps getting left out of these new phones. by the time verizon gets them, nokia will be three generations ahead on suck-t&t.
This phone should have definitely been released on all the carriers at the same time.
Nokia loves exclusives with AT&T, while making other carriers wait and still give the two finger salute to non-partners especially those enforcing Qualcomm made CDMA components (not Just limited to Sprint Corporation). Save the argument of Verizon which does not represent the entire CDMA carrier community.
talk to me when Nokia gets deals with USCC, Premiere, Bluegrass, C Spire, Cricket, Open Mobile de Puerto Rico, nTelos, and Especially Sprint along the rest of the CDMA carrier community. I'll change my view of Nokia when Stephen Elop and company make an honest effort to gain respect in the entire Qualcomm based CDMA community.
It wouldn't have mattered if it had been released on all carriers - people would still balk at the price and declare that it is 'overpriced'.
It will be fine and sell at AT&T's projections as planned.
They better change that pricing before the 26th or I'll wait til it goes on sale. Now im bummed out. $200 or $250 I was ok with, not $300 though.
Edit: I've changed my mind. Ill gladly pay the $300 lol.
$300 dolars it is a fair price, but it won't work. Nokia is beginning to turn around, gaining market share, they have to be more aggressive. Even being the best phone out there they can't price it more than the iPhone 5 and Samsung galaxy s4. I will pay the $300 for it, but at the same time I think at this price they will not sell as many phones they are expecting.
Waiting for the price to come down. It looks pretty awesome though!! And i'm stoked about the new apps coming to WP8 (Vine, Path, Tumblr...)!!
It should've been 199 with the battery/camera grip... I will wait for it to go down, looks like 920
This is too expensive. But the price should come down in a few months, when they realise that no one is buying one.
Well at $299 this phone will barely be a blip on the radar of most consumers. Nokia/Microsoft had a chance to generate massive mindshare by putting a unique and innovative device (a high end smartphone with an unprecedented camera and camera software) on one of the top 3 mobile OS's in reach of the Regular Joe Consumer. The device has a unique selling point easy for sales reps to grab onto, a camera at 41megapixels 5 times that of the average competitor,this combined with the promised promotions and advertising by ATT and Nokia, segued into and tied into other WP exclusives such as Free Office Mobile, Live Tiles, Xbox Live and some exclusive Lumia apps would give the sales rep quite a bit of material after the attention getter of the 41 megapixel camera. As I mentioned in another comment, most consumers don't really need to understand the tech, nor is an in depth explanation required we are sadly lulled by bigger numbers. Bigger is EASILY sold as better in most cases. Most people don't know what 2 gigs of RAM looks like. They do understand that 2 is bigger and are easily sold that 2 is better than 1. Dual core and quad core are more than single core. What it means to the non tech. Who knows. But they are easily sold that it is faster. Thought here are other factors such as demands of particular apps or even the demand of a particular OS involved that that a differs de as well. So 41 megapixels is a totally easy and Powerful sale over even the closet competitor which would be about 16 megapixels.
Windows Phone is almost invisible to the masses as it rests in the shadow of Android/Samsung and Apple. This 41 megapixel beast could have brought it (Windows Phone and Nokia)into focus if priced within reach. But alas, $299 for a brand of phones that are barley selling(relative to the competition and desires of Microsoft and Nokia) won't shine much light of interest on this device. There will be promotions, some folks will ask questions though be told it costs $300, they will then choose what's familiar, orders of magnitude more popular and walk out the store with a discounted previous generation Iphone or cheaper Android phone.
The tech media will devour the story that Nokia , a stuggling company, invested millions bringing an innovative device to market, committed to Microsoft WP platform and no one bought it. They will claim that not even innovative, pioneering technology can persuade people to buy Windows Phones. Nokia will then later this year, early next year be challenged by Apples new device with updated photography prowess. Current leaks point to Apple making improvements in that area. Samsung with the fierce marketing and Billions of dollars to throw into the fight and their ubiquitous presence(you will be assimilated - resistance is futile) will develop rather quickly as is their way an even better device than their S4 Zoom. And alas around Q4 this year Q1 next year the smartphone photography frontier will be populated with at least two devices by the top two that will offer good photography options on a smartphone. With their mindshare and advertising skills, they will appear to be pioneering this frontier with affordable dices. Microsoft will finally get it and it and Nokia will try to up their anty bit by this time they will be perceived as copy cats. MICROSOFThas a chance to invest in subsidizeing this devoxce to make it more accessible and the pioneering device it should be. They blew it.
This might be the longest comment I have ever seen here.
I fell asleep just by scrolling past it.
lol
Dude, what are you talking about? That's definitely an essay . . . lol
Nice prologue or is it a prophecy?
Looooooong
Did I miss it, or are they still ignoring the other storage issue.
Wait...there's an issue with Other Storage???
Paying an extra $200 is nothing. Sorry, you spend that much on 2 to 4 dinners at a restaurant. Plus the experience you have dining out is ephemeral. Whereas, you spend the $200 here you get a phone and a camera that's awesome in 1 device. People need to put things into perspective when they're comparing value.
Not if you don't spend that much on dinning or dine out often. $50 - $100 a meal is crazy expensive. So I wouldn't do that either. I spend about $50 a month on lunch.
Also, you need food to stay alive.
Well, looks like you're financially responsible then the phone is not for you just like a Lexus would not be suitable for a person who can only afford a Kia. I don't get the big deal about it. Most Americans live on credit anyway, so dropping $200 is nothing.
You are right most do live on credit, which is sad. I am thankful I worked in the financial industry for a while out of high school. I think it helped me learn the value of a dollar.
the value of a dollar is about $0.67, thanks to liberal government handouts.
Go troll somewhere else, this is a phone forum.
oh look how cute...a retarded boy special needs child learned about the interwebs. next thing you know he'll be pooping in the toilet rather than in his mommy's panties.
$10 says my 5 year old 12MP Canon Rebel takes better pictures than that phone. Sure it's 41MP but it's still a phone with just a 3X zoom without a fine focus filter. It'll take alright pictures for the casual photographer.
Also, what's up with not having a 1080p screen? Believe it or not you can easily tell the difference between a 720p and a 1080p screen without looking hard.
ofc your Canon will be better, but its not 10mm thin.
Believe it or not, you physically can't tell the difference between a 720p and 1080p screen at that size.
1080p screens along with 2000mAh batteries don't play nice. Next thing people would be complaining about is battery life.
$300 is not that much compare to the other phones in the market
The 300 dollar price tag makes sense. The camera technology in this phone is so different than any other smartphone in existance, that it doesn't become an overly produced cheap sensor like the 8MP ones we see today in so many smartphones. Along with all the software enhancements, I could see why this phone would go for 300 on contract. However, that price sucks and I really hope they get some sales (or at least bundles) going.
I'm so torn..
原来美国也有穷人啊，这么好的手机三百美金都得吧得的
I think I agree, but I am not sure.
I think he's talking about the price being $300 in the US. But thats with a 2 year contract.
I agree. The only thing I can gather...I think his name might be Mike and there is a chance he loves Lumia's.
When in doubt, bet on troll.
Honestly, if the 1020 came with expandable microSD storage and standard 64GB, I would've willingly dropped $600 that I have right now for it. Unfortunately, no microSD, no sale.
Is there any point in buying this full price w/o contract? Would't we be stuck with AT&T as it wouldn't work with other carrier's signals anyway? Also, 299? Really???, I do get that in a perfect world the price would be very fair b/c of all the technology, but in this world they have some serious competition, and at 99 or 150 they would have swept away some unhapy Iphone owners before the new Iphone comes out. What the hell are they thinking?!!!!! I have a line that could be upgraded now, but at 299 my wife can continue to use my old Iphone (she lost her L900). I guess I'll slowly end my family plan contract and work my way to T-Mobile.
$300 ..oh well looks like I'm waiting
That averages out to about $12.50/month for the device, over a two year period. Go ahead, take the plunge :)
I'm totally blown away by the Lumia 1020 Camera. Would certainly look audacious on a "Phablet"... Just saying Nokia.
Not in Europe until September. That sucks.
300.00 $ so what! Save your money and stop complaining. What device compares with this on the market? Name it if you can.
It doesn't matter if nothing compares 100% with it. It can still be considered overpriced. So if Samsung introduced a cell phone that could pickup local TV channels OTA and priced it at $299 on contract, it would be fine since no other device compares? (well...that actually could be cool) The point is, there is a price point that the majority will buy into, and it seems $299 is not it.
这手机刚上市不是给majority的兄弟，majority需要520
The Lumia 920 was only $99 at launch, and while it was a 'darling', ATT didn't move millions of these devices even with the low entry price.
Given that, ATT has reasonably predicted how this device will sell - if their aim was to keep the shelves empty and move millions, they would be offering it for free! This device is priced accordingly based on the imaging technology included in the device.
Those that can afford it, and value the technology, will purchase the Lumia 1020.
I'll wait for price to come down too. My 920 is really great!;)
I'm betting the $299 price won't last too long, it'll drop. This phone will be a game changer.
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I'll take 1. It looks ridiculously fantastic.
Wireless charging is awesome. Love it on my 920. If the iPhone had it, people wouldn't be calling it a gimick. ;)
+1
True!!!
So thanks att and Nokia for forcing me to buy a S4. Didnt want to but now im forced to. Expensive phones, lack of cc readers and apps and too many lame exclusivity deals have forced me to go back to fucking android. Ive had a lot of patience with you from buying my 920 on launch day, to having to exchange it 4 times because of it locking up and bluetooth audio issues. Now you show us the most expensive phone ever with the same hardware as the 920 and want us to yell yipee and run down and preorder? I mean did anyone see how quiet it got when the attt head said the price? Hopefully, WP will survive after this, chances are it wont but if it does maybe ill use my other upgrade in december to get a WP8 phone again. So next question, does anyone know how to remove bloatware from an S4? Thanks.
If you get an S4, root it and go to the xda developers forum, and in the s4 section look for custom roms.
Root it. Check out XDA Developers, S4 sub-forum. There are tutorials on how to root it.
If the 920 is working fine after those exchanges, why switch phones if you don't like android? And to be fair the Note 2 launch price was also $299, it will be cheaper through other parties and will get cheaper overall with time. The note costed so much due to the large screen, this costs so much because it has the best camera on any phone in the world. And to be fair, aside from the last question, the entire event was pretty quiet, not just the price time.
My issue was with the doom announcement with one phone. Seriously? If you think one (probably niche) device being priced high due to its incredible camera will kill of WP, I think you've lost it. Even if this device majorly fails, which I highly doubt, there are tons of other phones, not to mention successors coming around the end of the year.
No its still fucking locks up Nokia keeps telling we their aware and working on a fix.
Well then I apologize for my assumption. I think you've been victim to some bad handsets. A couple of my friends and my brother-in-law all have the 920 (their first) and have no such problems. I have read a few cases like this online, but not many so I don't believe it is a common occurence. But I guess my evidence is just as anecdotal as yours.
I think the use of the word "forced" is a bit of hyperbole. You are making your own decision based on available information. Neither company is "forcing" you to do anything. That being said, I can understand not wanting to spend $300 up front to purchase a phone. Considering you're on AT&T, you are most likely paying several times more than what ANY phone is worth over the course of a 24 month contract anyway. So... the $300 is potentially small potatoes compared to the thousands you're already spending with AT&T.
I'm on T-Mobile and will be picking up the 925 and saving a considerable amount of money on my bill over other carriers. Choices. Ain't they grand?
Wrong. Note 2 was not the only phone Samsung sells.
And? The 1020 isnt the only phone Nokia sells.
it is if your on att, and all the phones on orher carriers are 920 rebrands. oh i forgot htc 8x, thats a joke.
Not to mention lack of NE critical app for my business, Squareup. I'll keep the 920 as my music and picture phone and the ONE I just got, for $86 out the door for work.
Huh? What about the 820? And all of the other Lumia series work with ATT bands anyway. I honestly don't understand where you are going with this.
$299 really? For that price I'd expect a 5.0" display. For that price, id consider the Note II instead, and perhaps the S4. I understand the camera will be amazing, but I have my 10mp camera with 18x optical that does just fine. For now I'll stick with my 920. I'm happy now since the release of several official apps over the past few weeks.
Maybe all u people that complain about the price should get a better job
Sadly, it seems that people simply don't respect Nokia's technology or R & D; not to mention that they've been spoiled by carriers significantly subsidizing Lumia devices quite a bit. ATT simply could not subsidize this anymore than what they did given the technology and price of this device off contract.
That anyone would believe that this device would be less than $299 on contract is amazing to me. The Nokia 808 was $700 off contract, because of the technology of the camera; This is more advanced, so not surprised at all by the price.
$300!!!! Oh well looks like I'm waiting
maybe $250....but realisticly, you can't expect this phone to be priced the same as the 920. This device is head above everything else out there.
299 kiss my ass
Well...that's not good. When you could get the 928 for $39 at launch and the 920 for $50 with a wireless charger, $299 is simply too much. Expecially for a newer OS that a lot of people are not familiar with. Yes you can argue that you are getting a smart phone and a point and shoot camera in one, but the pricing is still too high to be competitive. It's also a weak argument. I was really hoping that they would price this to sell and it would bump up WP in the market.
People are cray cray thinking that thing would launch at $199. It has the best camera able... you can pretty much throw away your old camera's. You're getting a 928 with a pumped up camera... I think they're pricing it right. Plus... they'll drop the price regardless after slow sales.
No AWS support. Well, either I will have to go for the Lumia 925 now, or switch from Wind to another carrier just to get the new 1020
I wonder what the cash price will be. Usually Windows phone retail are 449ish....if this is more than 550....I think this will hurt sales pricing it this high when in about 2 months new Windows 8.1 devices will be out in October with hopefully 1080 screens and 4.7 screens and great cameras, wont be as good as 1020 maybe but on par with the 920 cam or better.
I'm guessing bestbuy.com will have it for $199. Who knows what Amazon will have it for. I would assume less than $299 as well.
grr i have an AT&T upgrade ready to burn i was really hoping this would have been 99$... I cant really afford a 300$ phone. stuck with my focus S for a while longer i guess....
Ralph De La Vega seemed like a used car salesman. They should not let that guy speak on stage ever again.
Signed up literally just because of this, lol.
Anyhow, when they say $299 "on contract", do they mean with a new contract only? Would you possibly be able to get it for less as an upgrade? Because my back paychecks for the summer have dried up and I might need to ask for this thing as a birthday present instead if that's not the case.
Otherwise, I'm totally on board with it. Say what you will, but coming from my rather lived-in 900, this is a tremendous improvement. Plus I take lots of photos on vacation or at cons, so yeah.
<p>If you are fully eligible for an upgrade it'll be $299 when you sign another 2 year contract agreement. I bought my 920 off contract but between the added cost of the 1020 and the accessories I'll probably do the upgrade pricing this time.</p>
Hm...well, that makes sense, at least. I might have to either beg for it as a gift or just wait and save. Frankly, this cost is no problem for me...or well, at least it wouldn't be if I had my regular salary. Thanks for the clarification, though.
Nice username! Your avatar doesn't look like Rodimus though. :)
Ahem, thank you-- I recently changed one without the other. >>;; Need to fix that, haha.
Wait a month or so, it will drop. THere isn't going to be a lot of people dropping $300 on a phone with a 2 year contract which now they have to stay the full 24 months.
Rather just use my upgrade on an iphone and flip it.
Exactly $300 + 2y contract is just pure greed by ATT.
Any word on it coming to Rogers in Canada?
Ditto. Come on Elop, what about your fellow countrymen?
I kinda like the "hump" I think it adds character ;)
A product running Windows released 2 weeks after announcement? This is the first horsemen of the apocalypse!
If it wasn't for the $300 price tag.
Niche device sadly. Where's my 520 news for AT&T bands?
You can get 2 520s off contract for the on-contract price of the 1020, incredible marketing fail.
Well you think new technology grows on trees materializes out of thin air? Nokia's r&d expenses are way higher than apple's.....even when Nokia Is low on cash. They can't possibly sell this at a loss....being a shareholder that would be a massive fail in my eyes. The fact remains this is going to be a low volume device irrespective of price
A thinner 920 w/ a better battery and a mack-daddy camera - sounds good to me.
That $299 makes me pause...but only just a little.
Now would be the time for an official Instagram app❗❕❗❕
at $299 I don't know what the hell they were thinking
I believe this will prove a major fail factor for the device in many reviews and consumer opinions.
Dude its not really a typical smartphone its a camera phone. Of course cameraphones are going to be expensive
lol, every phone is a camera phone nowdays, with a 2 year contract the $300 is just an overkill even if its for the best camera hone out there.
I will not pay $300 just to be stuck in a 2y contract.
At $200 I would probably go for it.
At $100 I would be preordering righ away.
That is some amazing tech. Nokia has some pretty talented engineers.
Last question was the best question I've ever heard at any keynote.
^THIS. AT@T claims they are a "partner" but any sales rep will just point you to iphone or android.
Too bad Vega wasn't on stage when this question was posed. Glad the question was supported by applause from the attendees :-). This is not just an AT&T problem. When I check in with the carriers/mobile retail outlets in Canada, the limited product knowledge and tendency to push IOS/Android products is also present.
I really loved the applause after that question, you could just imagine the ATT guy cringing backstage.
Screw ATT and their greed asking $300 for a 2y contract phone. Damn fools.
You know what, I'm an android user but I totally agree with you. I went into a tmobile store to pick up the HTC 8x for my mother and all the store rep did was talk about how he didn't like the OS and that all the other reps didn't like it either. I even proved to him that I knew how to use the OS and it would be fine and he kept pushing a crappy android phone on me. I had to really put my foot down to get the phone I wanted. My mother didn't need the features that I need android for so it was perfect and so was the price of zero down.
Lol. At first I was like BURRRRRRRRNNN!!!!! Ouch! But then got super surprised when Elop took ownership of the problem. Dude was prepared. He had ALMOST made me forget that it costs 299.99 on contract..
Elop is a class act. I feel sorry for him that he is stuck having to partner with idiots like ATT.
Agreed, made me smile really quick. Elop didn't give a straightforward answer, but what was he to do? Certainly not insult his biggest US partner. Maybe De La Vega heard it in the background and it got him thinking.
Much praise to Elop on how he handled and owned the question. Very nicely done without conceding, deflecting or throwing your business partner under a bus. Nice job.
I have to agree. He's a quick thinker. He'd be the winner of the Miss Universe pageant. If, you know, he was a girl, and pretty.
I wish De La Vega had been on stage for that. The first Nokia launch was just wow, no one knew a damn thing. The 920 launch was a lot better for me. So I suspect it'll get better. Also, this thing stands entirely alone so it'll be hard for a rep to be "derp" about it. Maybe.. :P
Whenever I go down to my local ATT store several of the reps know me and always start asking me about everything on my WP. They are amazed at the stuff I tell them but they are mostly Android fanboys who were previously iPhone fanboys and no way they are switching because Android is still cool. They only point people like them to Androids and then old people and the tech ignorant to Apple. It reinforces their feelings about their phones and makes them feel tech superior to tell em about it because thats what they know. Personally they all are intrigued by what I show them and some show jealousy but most are not really tech advanced and are not up to the challenge of switching. ATT is the last place someone will be taught about a windows phone imho.
The live feed is pretty interesting. One question "why wasn't wireless charging included". Apparently sales people didn't know about it and at&t wanted the phone to be thinner??? At this point: sure why not.
wireless charging is a gimmick, you still need a power outlet to charge your phone. Instead of plugging you just need to put on the pad. Same stuff different method.
The big deal nokia made about wireless charging was you dont need to bring wires anymore, yet you need the wire to plug into the adapter into the outlet.
Not a great feature IMO unless you start seeing wireless charging pads in restaurants and public places.
I respectfully disagree. While it may be a waste of time for you, it's something that brings convenience to a whole new level. Don't diss on the technology just because it didn't serve you any purpose.
True, its a desired taste. When I got my mess around 920 (unlocked but I don't have 4G LTE Tmobile in my area) I thought wireless charging was awesome, then I realized how much I use my phone in bed while sleeping varying, and just in general plugged in charging, then my wireless charger became a paper weight. Its neat to show off to people though!
I don't see it as a gimmick or a need for a good smart phone. It was just bleh for me. I just want people to stop complaining about it like it's going to bring it back. From the live show it should be apparent that built in wireless charging has been axed by Nokia and Att.
That's just the start. As technology gets better so will wireless charging pads. For example... Pads that hold charge and can be used when needed without having to connected to the wall for it to work.
It might feel like a gimmick now but it will be the future of charging
... That is not how wireless charging works. Wireless charging is very inefficient when compared to a physical connection. The pad holds no charge, and if you were to put a battery in the pad so you could do wireless charging while on the go then you would end up with a massive brick because a large percentage of the charge would be lost in the transfer. This is not like transistor technology which will get drastically better with time. This is very old and mature technology which will only see minor improvements over time, and said improvements will come with a new standard which will not be compatible with anything currently available on the market.
Portable chargers will always need a physical connection.
However, when you have an outlet to plug into this is not such a big deal. Yes, it is inefficient, but we are still talking about such small amounts of power that it is insignificant in an average home's power budget. In this case wireless charging is awesome because you can place your phone down in the dark without need to fish out a cable, or fiddle about with a plug. The plug on the back of the phone will also not get nearly as much wear and tear (something almost all of my friends have had issues with over the 2 year life of their smartphones) so your phone stays in nice working order much longer. Plus, it is very easy to incorporate a charging plate into furniture or a little stand for your phone to make the wires disappear entirely. It really is a wave of the future.
However, Qi is no longer viewed as the defacto winner of the standards war that is going on like it was when the 920 was released. Because of this all of the new phones are compatible with a wireless charging case, but if Qi goes under all you need to do is purchase a new case rather than a whole new set of devices. Plus it is one less liscense to purchase in the manufacture of the phone, and adds another accessory that can be purchased for Nokia devices which means a little more income coming in. Personally I think wireless charging is a must-have feature, and I would very much like to see it be put back inside of the phone... but at the same time this is the smarter move for Nokia until they get in an influential position similar to Apple or Samsung where the industry will follow them on whatever standard they decide to adopt.
With that reasoning, a smartphone is a gimmick. Do you really need one?
I'm gonna disagree, as well.
At first I thought it was a gimmick, too, but I've become very used to just walking through the kitchen & dropping my phone on the pad or swiping it off the pad without having to stop and use two hands deal with a plug. It's EXTREMELY convenient and one of my favorite features from my 920.
My wife is very jealous of my wireless charging capabilities and I'm very disappointed that Nokia has decided not to include it in their new phones.
Agreed. I thought it was a little gimmicky at first. Then I decided to go for it and bough two pads... one for work and one for home. I absolutely love it and don't want to have a phone without it.
I have a 928 and 2 wireless charging stands from Nokia. Love wireless charging...just set the phone on the stand and it charges.
I have to disagree with you I've had wireless charging on my past 2 phones (Lumia 920 and Palm Pre Plus) its one of the reasons I bought the 920.
Are you spouting off about wireless being a gimmick again!!! Your point is not a point. Its obvious you have never used wireless charging. You plug in a wireless pad ONE time, then you get the convenience of never plugging in again. If you have multiple chargers then you get to charge without plugging in a several places. I even have one in my bathroom. I normally dont care for people who call other posters idiots but c'mon, give it a break, you just look stupid when you say you have to plug in a wireless charger. You must be a nomad who moves constantly and have to charge on the go so the wireless charger doesn't work for you but it doesn't mean its a gimmick. I myself will not have another phone without it.
This again? Your constant sputtering about wireless charging being a gimmick is becoming questionable.
Like a guy living in a tiny apt claiming that 7.1 channel surround sound is a gimmick.
or
I 'm not into getting f**** in the ass, so I'm going to declare that anal lube is just a dumb gimmick.
I mean, it would just be an absolute crime to even consider that everyone is different and has different wants and needs, wouldn't it?
Love my 920, however...gotta talk the wife into my hand-me-down as her contract is about to expire. Any suggestions?
show her a low light pic, maybe an intimate one?
Disappointed Nokia fan here :( 920 with a better camera! Sorry I will pass this one! Happy with my 920.
My camera & phone are starting to feel old (L920)
Old? Old is my Lumia 800 ~ oldest Lumia
GDR2 is coming soon, and should pump some extra features into your camera.
smh. 'old' at less than a year.
Yes. A new device came out and I want it. IDC if it was a day old...
smh...
BTW I love my 920 which I would give to my girl. She loves my phone... Feel better now?
What did you expect? The main draw of this phone is the camera.. That's the whole point. Nokia's true successor for the 920 won't be out till the end of the year.
How exactly is that disappointing? It was always supposed to be the exact same thing as the 920 with a much better camera. It is not a 920 successor.
how does your 920 have a better camera? lol
Wondering if I should wait for the next iteration and stick with my l920 or pick this up. Decisions decisions.
Same here
Don't understand why people isn't happy with their actual phones, I mean, you bought it for a reason, time may have passed, but give it more time, get in love with it as we used to in the past :)
The 920... that device that's not even a year old yet?
I dunno... I like the 1020 too, but I'm not ready to let go of my 920. I don't get 'upgrading' in less than a year, seems like a huge waste.
Depends how much you paid for it... Amazon gave me a $50 credit when I got my phone. So instead of it costing me $49.99 I got a $100 credit because of a malfunction that I can't even recall. I get too be picky plus I want Nokia to succeed.
Spoken truthfully. I think it would be best to wait for the next wave of wp8 phones. Along with the GDR3 update. Your opinions have been taken into consideration.
I bought a Lumia 710 off contract for just $130 last year and will not trade it in as long as it works. That said, the Lumia 1020 and 920 both look fantastic.
I'd get one if I did not have a 920
To much .
Poop
With that price and a 41 MP camera. People are surprised? Wow. Over time it'll go down. Plus Black Friday. So.... Yeah
EDIT: The double standard is annoying me. I know Nokia doesn't have the control that apple and Samsung does to monopolize prices but the main problem isn't the price but because its a "windows phone" and that really pisses me off. I'm done for the day.
Happy with my 920 :) But the 1020 is a great phone.
Me two
Well golly gee, me three!
Yo, me four
Indeed, me five. I kind of wished I waited a bit before getting the HTC 8X. The Windows Phone selection is getting a good selection now. Eagerly awaiting a Nokia "Phablet", ever since I got the Acer Iconia tablet from BUILD. If the Iconia was 5" and had a full Windows 8 copy, with HDMI out, and a battery that can hold out for a day or so between charges, and an SD card slot... that would be epic.
Happy with my 8X, it's one of the nicest looking phones in the world. I've had strangers spot my phone and tell me how nice it looks, which was slightly weird.
I'll bite! Me Five!
High-five!
I was so hoping that AT&T would not price it so high, they doomed this to a niche device when it has so much more potential, hoping for a sale soon.
Between $100-200 on several carriers would have been best
Agreed, I have a feeling it will do better internationally then in the states.
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