Nokia announces the Lumia 1020 Windows Phone on AT&T for $299, coming July 26

You called it!

I was so hoping that AT&T would not price it so high, they doomed this to a niche device when it has so much more potential, hoping for a sale soon.

Between $100-200 on several carriers would have been best

Agreed, I have a feeling it will do better internationally then in the states.

As well as completely impossible given Nokia's current market position..

Indeed, at $300 I will wait for sale, no point in wasting that much cash if I am stuck to a two year contract.
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Huge fail for ATT and Nokia.

This phone seems to support lte, cdma, and 4G bands, perhaps we can buy it out right and use on another carrier?

I agree...how do they hope to attract developers with moves like this?

From outside the US it's hard to understand why $100 difference in price is a deal breaker, I could easily spend that much on a night out. Over the term of a 2 year contract it's an extra $1/week.

I'm an owner of a Samsung Focus S on AT&T. My upgrade option just came up two weeks ago. I was so looking foward to picking up the Nokia 1020 and trading in my Focus S for $100 in-store credit. The N1020 priced at $200 after trading in my old phone is a deal breaker for me. I'm pretty bummed out right now. Do you guys think I should hold out and wait until Dec or Jan for the next generation Nokia or just take the N920 at no cost and have a new phone now? My Focus S has been flashed to 7.8 and still runs like a charm. I've just been waiting since the Lumia 900 to jump on the Nokia bandwagen. Any opinions would be apprecated =)

I'd wait if I were you. It'll go on sale someplace, amazon maybe. Plus by then their Phablet will come out and yet another decision for you.

At $300 I would definitely wait, which is what I am doing with my 900. Was looking forward to upgrading it to the 1020 but I just can't condone such greed as $300 + 2y contract. Damn ATT, maybe time to switch.
That Forbes reporter nailed it.
 

Direct me to the article?

Article? Refering to the question that was asked by Forbes at the Nokia press conference, labeling ATT as a crap carrier.
 

I'm from Canada, so paying higher price and trap in three yrs contract is a norm. To me, for $200, you get the latest from Nokia, it's cheaper than getting a new decent point and shoot camera. It's a no brainer. I am sure if anyone give the phone a chance, really try it out before judging it, most would fall in love with it. Love my Lumia 920, can't wait to get the 1020, though it's going to cost me $700.

I would wait, at $770 for the device and grip, plus add sales tax, not worth it. If your phone runs like a charm and meets your needs in your shoes I would wait. Definitely will go on sale, maybe even at a Microsoft store.

Wait until Black Friday!

If you really want this phone, suck it up and buy it.  If you can't afford it, don't buyt it.  Pretty simple....  $300 is alot on contract, maybe if they had a 64GB version for that amount, which I do not understand why they don't a 64GB option.  They should have at least built in an micro-SD into the case.  That would have made too much sense!

Well, you certainly cannot go wrong with the Lumia 920. It's still a great phone with a great camera. That said, I realize $300 is a lot of money, but it packs a 41MP camera! One that comes with fantastic photo software, 2GBs of RAM, 4GLTE, and all the other benefits a smart phone has. You can't buy any other camera that comes with all that, at that price. If the best smartphone camera in the world is overkill for you, then get the 920: you'll love it. But, if you want the best of the best, why wait? Get the 1020. It's not going to drop in price anytime soon.

I would just wait six months.  After that, you'll likely be able to find this phone for $300 *unlocked*.
The Lumia 920 is already available second hand on ebay for under $200, as an example.

Unfortunately I'm so mad I went and got a htc one. I'm very happy with the device, it cost me $86 out the door. They release one camera with an old phone on one carrier? MS and Nokia do not understand the smartphone game and its getting embarrassing. Go get the one....ive synced everything over and the one has the 3 dots your used too and I'm controlling my cable box nd TV remote. I think you'll be happy.

I went back and forth went the 920 came out and yes really enjoyed it!!  Loved the quality, but a few things annoyed me that were missing, anyways, the ONE is my go to phone for now.....I may get the 1020 in another month, but for now, The ONE takes great pics, IMO, and does what I need, you got a solid phone!!  Plus you can always sell it on ebay for close to what the 1020 costs straight up if you really want it, probably what I will do in August!!

That depends on how much you want something new.  Whether a 920 series device or the 1020, up to $300 for a device with this quality is a deal.  What did you pay for your last Camera?  Or your last Computer?  And neither can do as much as one of these small devices can in its size.  And you always have it with you.
 
You could wait, but if your waiting for the next new phone, you might just be doing so until your current phone implodes and your forced to buy, phones have been changing fast for years.

Yeah and if Porsche sold their cars for the same price as a Ford they'd sell millions more and everyone else would go out of business. But then, so would Porsche...

Apples and Oranges, Ford mass produces vehicles, Porsche a select few, no one wants anyone to go out of business, but if Nokia was hoping for mass US sales at a high price won't happen.

Not the same thing at all!
Lumia 920 was ~$550 when it first came out, but with a 2 year contract it was $100 and came with a free Qi charging plate ($70). That is a $530 discount on the phone when it was first launched, which just goes to show that they were behind the product. Meanwhile the Lumia 1020 is a $600 phone and at launch they are only taking $300 off of the price and not offering any bonus accessories. That is a joke for a high end phone launch. Even a $350 discount to bring the phone down to $250 would make a large difference in the success of this phone, and a $350-400 discount is much more standard fair for these types of things. Personally I am waiting for a true "next gen" device to come out with GDR3 before I upgrade, and I will be more than willing to pay out of pocket for it, so I was never really in the running to buy the 1020 in the first place. But I think ATT is really shooting themselves in the foot with this price point.

More significantly, AT&T is shooting Nokia in the foot with this pricing! Personally, they eliminated me as a buyer once they broke past $250 on subsidy.

More accurately, AT&T is shooting Nokia in both feet, then in the back of the head, mob execution style.

your paying for the camera, plain and simple thats all! and yes I am not happy with the price!! I enjoy my HTC ONE, but miss my 920....ugh may just wait till August!

920 was $450 at release (on ATT)
They can charge this much because frankly there is no other device with the camera capabilities, even the GS4 zoom (?) won't be able to compare

The 32Gb iPhone 5 is $299 with a new contract. Its actually priced very competitively especially looking at that camera you get.

Yea at first I was complaining that it was too expensive, but then I started checking out other phones on AT&T and I saw the Iphone 5 32GB model going for 300.  -lol literally tons of people buy the iphone for this kind of money.  I will suck it up this time...and go out and buy it the first day.  But I solemy swear, this will be the last time and last phone I will ever spend this much money upfront for.   Phones are getting ridiculously expensive these days.  I can only imagine what an upgraded spec + 41MP sensor phone would cost. 

Technically phones are about the same as they have been for the last 5-or-so years, or cheaper, while packing in a heck of a lot more goodies. IPhones have been $600 for the 3g onwards (or $650 for the 5), blackberries were $700-800 new, Nokia N8 was $600-700 new, Galaxy Ses have been $700 or so. The off-contract price isn't bad, but I don't think there's $200 worth of extra camera goodness compared to the $450-500 Lumia 920/928/925 (especially without built-in wireless charging like the 920/28, but the subsidized price is in line with the cost of the phone plus the early termination fees and taxes. The biggest subsides have been on the galaxies, iphones, and blackberries. This might be the sign of lower subsidies for top-end phones.
 
Ugh, why did this have to be exclusive?!

Considering everything they are packing into phones now and all you can do with them, i'd still say even the iPhone is a bargain. It's all relative though.

+1020

That iPhone 5 32gb is another example of AT&T gouging.  The same phone is $199 on Verizon.
Yes, when compared to the iPhone the 1020 is competitively priced, but most people know that the iPhone is overpriced to begin with, and the iPhone 5 is nearly 1 year old.  So you get similar features to a 1 year old phone plus a much better camera.  It seems as though the Apple tax is in play for this phone.

Actually, Verizon's iP5, 32GB is $299 too.

Not for existing customers.  They are offering $100 off any iPhone 5.

Just checked with a rep - there is no discount for existing customers.

Apparently it expired then.  There was an offer in June.  I still have the email from it, but the email doesn't list an expiration date.  It just says limited time offer.  I assumed they were going to keep the promotional price with the 5s on the horizon.

I just clicked on the link from the email. It still works and shows the 16GB iPhone 5 as $99, and the 32GB as $199, etc. So maybe you need to talk to a different rep then.

It's great that this timed promotion is still valid, but I would not generalize based on it.

How is stating a factual piece of information generalizing?

I understand that it's a factual piece of information, but what also is true that is not an official permanent  price drop. Can you guarantee that as of July 26 it will still be in effect? And how do you know that there are no similar emails sent to existing ATT customers?

I am not sure why I am continuing to talk about this.  I guess the pure ludicrousy of it all leaves me too compelled.  If it makes you feel better, I will revise my statement saying that the iPhone 5 is available on Verizon for $199 for at least some customers for what may be a limited time.  There, do you feel better now?  This is just plane rediculous to go on about something involving pricing where even the so-called "permanent" price fluctuates.  I thought it was obvious that the price I mentioned earlier was at this point in time and that any price can change, but apparently it wasn't as obvious to some.  In addition, I am not sure why you attempt to call me out for generalising about a price, which I never did, when others are generalising about the fact that the 1020 will drop in price shortly after release.  Why not annoy them?  The only reason I can think of is that you must work for AT&T and I hit a nerve.  That or you have nothing better to do than to contact "reps" in your free time to check prices on phones you are not planning to buy.

Well, you stated it yourself that your original reference to V's IP5 pricing was not complete. After our exchange the information you've provided will be beneficial to everybody else.
So, the bottom line is that att and v both charge too much for ip5. Have a great day and enjoy your 920.

It's not a bad price if compare with other competitors, not very good as Nokia's current position though (Its overall quarter sales is half of S4's month sale). 
And I don't think it's an idea from ATT alone. It's a price that's gonna help Nokia's other partners. Imagine if it's the same price like the 928 and 925, Tmo and Verizon will be heavily affected. 1020's spec is much higher. 
Furthermore, there will be a sale soon.

The price will come down not long after the phone is released.  That's been AT&T's method of pricing for years now.  Before the end of the summer, there will be a way to get this phone for $99 with or without rebates, mark my words.

Happy with my 920 :) But the 1020 is a great phone.

Me two

Well golly gee, me three!

Yo, me four

Indeed, me five. I kind of wished I waited a bit before getting the HTC 8X. The Windows Phone selection is getting a good selection now. Eagerly awaiting a Nokia "Phablet", ever since I got the Acer Iconia tablet from BUILD. If the Iconia was 5" and had a full Windows 8 copy, with HDMI out, and a battery that can hold out for a day or so between charges, and an SD card slot... that would be epic.

Happy with my 8X, it's one of the nicest looking phones in the world. I've had strangers spot my phone and tell me how nice it looks, which was slightly weird.

I'll bite! Me Five!

High-five!

With that price and a 41 MP camera. People are surprised? Wow. Over time it'll go down. Plus Black Friday. So.... Yeah EDIT: The double standard is annoying me. I know Nokia doesn't have the control that apple and Samsung does to monopolize prices but the main problem isn't the price but because its a "windows phone" and that really pisses me off. I'm done for the day.

Poop

To much .

I'd get one if I did not have a 920

Wondering if I should wait for the next iteration and stick with my l920 or pick this up. Decisions decisions.

Same here

Don't understand why people isn't happy with their actual phones, I mean, you bought it for a reason, time may have passed, but give it more time, get in love with it as we used to in the past :)

The 920... that device that's not even a year old yet?
I dunno... I like the 1020 too, but I'm not ready to let go of my 920.  I don't get 'upgrading' in less than a year, seems like a huge waste.
 

Depends how much you paid for it... Amazon gave me a $50 credit when I got my phone. So instead of it costing me $49.99 I got a $100 credit because of a malfunction that I can't even recall. I get too be picky plus I want Nokia to succeed.

Spoken truthfully. I think it would be best to wait for the next wave of wp8 phones. Along with the GDR3 update. Your opinions have been taken into consideration.

I bought a Lumia 710 off contract for just $130 last year and will not trade it in as long as it works. That said, the Lumia 1020 and 920 both look fantastic.

Disappointed Nokia fan here :( 920 with a better camera! Sorry I will pass this one! Happy with my 920.

My camera & phone are starting to feel old (L920)

Old? Old is my Lumia 800 ~ oldest Lumia

GDR2 is coming soon, and should pump some extra features into your camera.

smh.  'old' at less than a year.

Yes. A new device came out and I want it. IDC if it was a day old... smh...
BTW I love my 920 which I would give to my girl. She loves my phone... Feel better now?

What did you expect? The main draw of this phone is the camera.. That's the whole point. Nokia's true successor for the 920 won't be out till the end of the year.

How exactly is that disappointing? It was always supposed to be the exact same thing as the 920 with a much better camera. It is not a 920 successor.

how does your 920 have a better camera? lol

Love my 920, however...gotta talk the wife into my hand-me-down as her contract is about to expire. Any suggestions?

show her a low light pic, maybe an intimate one?

The live feed is pretty interesting. One question "why wasn't wireless charging included". Apparently sales people didn't know about it and at&t wanted the phone to be thinner??? At this point: sure why not.

wireless charging is a gimmick,  you still need a power outlet to charge your phone.  Instead of plugging you just need to put on the pad.  Same stuff different method. 
 
The big deal nokia made about wireless charging was you dont need to bring wires anymore, yet you need the wire to plug into the adapter into the outlet. 
 
Not a great feature IMO unless you start seeing wireless charging pads in restaurants and public places. 

I respectfully disagree. While it may be a waste of time for you, it's something that brings convenience to a whole new level. Don't diss on the technology just because it didn't serve you any purpose.

True, its a desired taste. When I got my mess around 920 (unlocked but I don't have 4G LTE Tmobile in my area) I thought wireless charging was awesome, then I realized how much I use my phone in bed while sleeping varying, and just in general plugged in charging, then my wireless charger became a paper weight. Its neat to show off to people though!

I don't see it as a gimmick or a need for a good smart phone. It was just bleh for me. I just want people to stop complaining about it like it's going to bring it back. From the live show it should be apparent that built in wireless charging has been axed by Nokia and Att.

That's just the start. As technology gets better so will wireless charging pads. For example... Pads that hold charge and can be used when needed without having to connected to the wall for it to work.
It might feel like a gimmick now but it will be the future of charging

... That is not how wireless charging works. Wireless charging is very inefficient when compared to a physical connection. The pad holds no charge, and if you were to put a battery in the pad so you could do wireless charging while on the go then you would end up with a massive brick because a large percentage of the charge would be lost in the transfer. This is not like transistor technology which will get drastically better with time. This is very old and mature technology which will only see minor improvements over time, and said improvements will come with a new standard which will not be compatible with anything currently available on the market.
Portable chargers will always need a physical connection. However, when you have an outlet to plug into this is not such a big deal. Yes, it is inefficient, but we are still talking about such small amounts of power that it is insignificant in an average home's power budget. In this case wireless charging is awesome because you can place your phone down in the dark without need to fish out a cable, or fiddle about with a plug. The plug on the back of the phone will also not get nearly as much wear and tear (something almost all of my friends have had issues with over the 2 year life of their smartphones) so your phone stays in nice working order much longer. Plus, it is very easy to incorporate a charging plate into furniture or a little stand for your phone to make the wires disappear entirely. It really is a wave of the future. However, Qi is no longer viewed as the defacto winner of the standards war that is going on like it was when the 920 was released. Because of this all of the new phones are compatible with a wireless charging case, but if Qi goes under all you need to do is purchase a new case rather than a whole new set of devices. Plus it is one less liscense to purchase in the manufacture of the phone, and adds another accessory that can be purchased for Nokia devices which means a little more income coming in. Personally I think wireless charging is a must-have feature, and I would very much like to see it be put back inside of the phone... but at the same time this is the smarter move for Nokia until they get in an influential position similar to Apple or Samsung where the industry will follow them on whatever standard they decide to adopt.

With that reasoning, a smartphone is a gimmick. Do you really need one?

I'm gonna disagree, as well.
At first I thought it was a gimmick, too, but I've become very used to just walking through the kitchen & dropping my phone on the pad or swiping it off the pad without having to stop and use two hands deal with a plug.  It's EXTREMELY convenient and one of my favorite features from my 920.
My wife is very jealous of my wireless charging capabilities and I'm very disappointed that Nokia has decided not to include it in their new phones.

Agreed. I thought it was a little gimmicky at first. Then I decided to go for it and bough two pads... one for work and one for home. I absolutely love it and don't want to have a phone without it.

I have a 928 and 2 wireless charging stands from Nokia. Love wireless charging...just set the phone on the stand and it charges.

I have to disagree with you I've had wireless charging on my past 2 phones (Lumia 920 and Palm Pre Plus) its one of the reasons I bought the 920.

Are you spouting off about wireless being a gimmick again!!! Your point is not a point. Its obvious you have never used wireless charging. You plug in a wireless pad ONE time, then you get the convenience of never plugging in again. If you have multiple chargers then you get to charge without plugging in a several places. I even have one in my bathroom. I normally dont care for people who call other posters idiots but c'mon, give it a break, you just look stupid when you say you have to plug in a wireless charger. You must be a nomad who moves constantly and have to charge on the go so the wireless charger doesn't work for you but it doesn't mean its a gimmick. I myself will not have another phone without it.

This again? Your constant sputtering about wireless charging being a gimmick is becoming questionable. Like a guy living in a tiny apt claiming that 7.1 channel surround sound is a gimmick. or
I 'm not into getting f**** in the ass, so I'm going to declare that anal lube is just a dumb gimmick. I mean, it would just be an absolute crime to even consider that everyone is different and has different wants and needs, wouldn't it?

Last question was the best question I've ever heard at any keynote.

^THIS. AT@T claims they are a "partner" but any sales rep will just point you to iphone or android.

Too bad Vega wasn't on stage when this question was posed. Glad the question was supported by applause from the attendees :-). This is not just an AT&T problem. When I check in with the carriers/mobile retail outlets in Canada, the limited product knowledge and tendency to push IOS/Android products is also present.

I really loved the applause after that question, you could just imagine the ATT guy cringing backstage.
Screw ATT and their greed asking $300 for a 2y contract phone. Damn fools.

You know what, I'm an android user but I totally agree with you. I went into a tmobile store to pick up the HTC 8x for my mother and all the store rep did was talk about how he didn't like the OS and that all the other reps didn't like it either. I even proved to him that I knew how to use the OS and it would be fine and he kept pushing a crappy android phone on me. I had to really put my foot down to get the phone I wanted. My mother didn't need the features that I need android for so it was perfect and so was the price of zero down. 

Lol. At first I was like BURRRRRRRRNNN!!!!! Ouch! But then got super surprised when Elop took ownership of the problem. Dude was prepared. He had ALMOST made me forget that it costs 299.99 on contract..

Elop is a class act. I feel sorry for him that he is stuck having to partner with idiots like ATT.
 
 

Agreed, made me smile really quick. Elop didn't give a straightforward answer, but what was he to do? Certainly not insult his biggest US partner. Maybe De La Vega heard it in the background and it got him thinking.

Much praise to Elop on how he handled and owned the question. Very nicely done without conceding, deflecting or throwing your business partner under a bus. Nice job.

I have to agree. He's a quick thinker.  He'd be the winner of the Miss Universe pageant.  If, you know, he was a girl, and pretty.

I wish De La Vega had been on stage for that.  The first Nokia launch was just wow, no one knew a damn thing.  The 920 launch was a lot better for me.  So I suspect it'll get better.  Also, this thing stands entirely alone so it'll be hard for a rep to be "derp" about it.  Maybe.. :P

Whenever I go down to my local ATT store several of the reps know me and always start asking me about everything on my WP. They are amazed at the stuff I tell them but they are mostly Android fanboys who were previously iPhone fanboys and no way they are switching because Android is still cool. They only point people like them to Androids and then old people and the tech ignorant to Apple. It reinforces their feelings about their phones and makes them feel tech superior to tell em about it because thats what they know. Personally they all are intrigued by what I show them and some show jealousy but most are not really tech advanced and are not up to the challenge of switching. ATT is the last place someone will be taught about a windows phone imho.

at $299 I don't know what the hell they were thinking
I believe this will prove a major fail factor for the device in many reviews and consumer opinions.
 

Dude its not really a typical smartphone its a camera phone. Of course cameraphones are going to be expensive 

lol, every phone is a camera phone nowdays, with a 2 year contract the $300 is just an overkill even if its for the best camera hone out there.
I will not pay $300 just to be stuck in a 2y contract.
At $200 I would probably go for it.
At $100 I would be preordering righ away.

That is some amazing tech. Nokia has some pretty talented engineers.

Now would be the time for an official Instagram app❗❕❗❕

A thinner 920 w/ a better battery and a mack-daddy camera - sounds good to me.
That $299 makes me pause...but only just a little.
 

Niche device sadly. Where's my 520 news for AT&T bands?

You can get 2 520s off contract for the on-contract price of the 1020, incredible marketing fail.
 

Well you think new technology grows on trees materializes out of thin air? Nokia's r&d expenses are way higher than apple's.....even when Nokia Is low on cash. They can't possibly sell this at a loss....being a shareholder that would be a massive fail in my eyes. The fact remains this is going to be a low volume device irrespective of price

A product running Windows released 2 weeks after announcement? This is the first horsemen of the apocalypse!

If it wasn't for the $300 price tag.

I kinda like the "hump" I think it adds character ;)

Any word on it coming to Rogers in Canada?

Ditto. Come on Elop, what about your fellow countrymen?

Wait a month or so, it will drop.  THere isn't going to be a lot of people dropping $300 on a phone with a 2 year contract which now they have to stay the full 24 months. 
 
Rather just use my upgrade on an iphone and flip it. 

Exactly $300 + 2y contract is just pure greed by ATT.

Signed up literally just because of this, lol. 
Anyhow, when they say $299 "on contract", do they mean with a new contract only?  Would you possibly be able to get it for less as an upgrade?  Because my back paychecks for the summer have dried up and I might need to ask for this thing as a birthday present instead if that's not the case.  
Otherwise, I'm totally on board with it.  Say what you will, but coming from my rather lived-in 900, this is a tremendous improvement.  Plus I take lots of photos on vacation or at cons, so yeah.  

<p>If you are fully eligible for an upgrade it&#39;ll be $299 when you sign another 2 year contract agreement.&nbsp; I bought my 920 off contract but between the added cost of the 1020 and the accessories I&#39;ll probably do the upgrade pricing this time.</p>

Hm...well, that makes sense, at least.  I might have to either beg for it as a gift or just wait and save.  Frankly, this cost is no problem for me...or well, at least it wouldn't be if I had my regular salary.  Thanks for the clarification, though.  

Nice username! Your avatar doesn't look like Rodimus though. :)

Ahem, thank you-- I recently changed one without the other. >>;; Need to fix that, haha.  

Ralph De La Vega seemed like a used car salesman.  They should not let that guy speak on stage ever again.

grr i have an AT&T upgrade ready to burn i was really hoping this would have been 99$...  I cant really afford a 300$ phone.  stuck with my focus S for a while longer i guess....

I'm guessing bestbuy.com will have it for $199.  Who knows what Amazon will have it for.  I would assume less than $299 as well.  

I wonder what the cash price will be. Usually Windows phone retail are 449ish....if this is more than 550....I think this will hurt sales pricing it this high when in about 2 months new Windows 8.1 devices will be out in October with hopefully 1080 screens and 4.7 screens and great cameras, wont be as good as 1020 maybe but on par with the 920 cam or better.

No AWS support. Well, either I will have to go for the Lumia 925 now, or switch from Wind to another carrier just to get the new 1020

People are cray cray thinking that thing would launch at $199.  It has the best camera able... you can pretty much throw away your old camera's.  You're getting a 928 with a pumped up camera...   I think they're pricing it right.  Plus... they'll drop the price regardless after slow sales.

Well...that's not good. When you could get the 928 for $39 at launch and the 920 for $50 with a wireless charger, $299 is simply too much. Expecially for a newer OS that a lot of people are not familiar with. Yes you can argue that you are getting a smart phone and a point and shoot camera in one, but the pricing is still too high to be competitive. It's also a weak argument. I was really hoping that they would price this to sell and it would bump up WP in the market.

299 kiss my ass

maybe $250....but realisticly, you can't expect this phone to be priced the same as the 920. This device is head above everything else out there.

$300!!!! Oh well looks like I'm waiting

$299 really? For that price I'd expect a 5.0" display. For that price, id consider the Note II instead, and perhaps the S4. I understand the camera will be amazing, but I have my 10mp camera with 18x optical that does just fine. For now I'll stick with my 920. I'm happy now since the release of several official apps over the past few weeks.

Maybe all u people that complain about the price should get a better job

Sadly, it seems that people simply don't respect Nokia's technology or R & D; not to mention that they've been spoiled by carriers significantly subsidizing Lumia devices quite a bit.  ATT simply could not subsidize this anymore than what they did given the technology and price of this device off contract.
 
That anyone would believe that this device would be less than $299 on contract is amazing to me.  The Nokia 808 was $700 off contract, because of the technology of the camera;  This is more advanced, so not surprised at all by the price.

So thanks att and Nokia for forcing me to buy a S4. Didnt want to but now im forced to. Expensive phones, lack of cc readers and apps and too many lame exclusivity deals have forced me to go back to fucking android. Ive had a lot of patience with you from buying my 920 on launch day, to having to exchange it 4 times because of it locking up and bluetooth audio issues. Now you show us the most expensive phone ever with the same hardware as the 920 and want us to yell yipee and run down and preorder? I mean did anyone see how quiet it got when the attt head said the price? Hopefully, WP will survive after this, chances are it wont but if it does maybe ill use my other upgrade in december to get a WP8 phone again. So next question, does anyone know how to remove bloatware from an S4? Thanks.

If you get an S4, root it and go to the xda developers forum, and in the s4 section look for custom roms.

Root it. Check out XDA Developers, S4 sub-forum. There are tutorials on how to root it.

If the 920 is working fine after those exchanges, why switch phones if you don't like android? And to be fair the Note 2 launch price was also $299, it will be cheaper through other parties and will get cheaper overall with time. The note costed so much due to the large screen, this costs so much because it has the best camera on any phone in the world. And to be fair, aside from the last question, the entire event was pretty quiet, not just the price time.
My issue was with the doom announcement with one phone. Seriously? If you think one (probably niche) device being priced high due to its incredible camera will kill of WP, I think you've lost it. Even if this device majorly fails, which I highly doubt, there are tons of other phones, not to mention successors coming around the end of the year.

No its still fucking locks up Nokia keeps telling we their aware and working on a fix.

Well then I apologize for my assumption. I think you've been victim to some bad handsets. A couple of my friends and my brother-in-law all have the 920 (their first) and have no such problems. I have read a few cases like this online, but not many so I don't believe it is a common occurence. But I guess my evidence is just as anecdotal as yours.

I think the use of the word "forced" is a bit of hyperbole. You are making your own decision based on available information. Neither company is "forcing" you to do anything. That being said, I can understand not wanting to spend $300 up front to purchase a phone. Considering you're on AT&T, you are most likely paying several times more than what ANY phone is worth over the course of a 24 month contract anyway. So... the $300 is potentially small potatoes compared to the thousands you're already spending with AT&T.
 
 
I'm on T-Mobile and will be picking up the 925 and saving a considerable amount of money on my bill over other carriers. Choices. Ain't they grand?

Wrong. Note 2 was not the only phone Samsung sells.

And? The 1020 isnt the only phone Nokia sells.

it is if your on att, and all the phones on orher carriers are 920 rebrands. oh i forgot htc 8x, thats a joke.
 

Not to mention lack of NE critical app for my business, Squareup. I'll keep the 920 as my music and picture phone and the ONE I just got, for $86 out the door for work.

Huh? What about the 820? And all of the other Lumia series work with ATT bands anyway. I honestly don't understand where you are going with this.

Wireless charging is awesome. Love it on my 920. If the iPhone had it, people wouldn't be calling it a gimick. ;)

+1

True!!!

I'll take 1. It looks ridiculously fantastic.

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I'm betting the $299 price won't last too long, it'll drop. This phone will be a game changer.

I'll wait for price to come down too. My 920 is really great!;)

300.00 $ so what! Save your money and stop complaining. What device compares with this on the market? Name it if you can.

It doesn't matter if nothing compares 100% with it. It can still be considered overpriced. So if Samsung introduced a cell phone that could pickup local TV channels OTA and priced it at $299 on contract, it would be fine since no other device compares? (well...that actually could be cool) The point is, there is a price point that the majority will buy into, and it seems $299 is not it.

这手机刚上市不是给majority的兄弟，majority需要520

The Lumia 920 was only $99 at launch, and while it was a 'darling', ATT didn't move millions of these devices even with the low entry price.
 
Given that, ATT has reasonably predicted how this device will sell - if their aim was to keep the shelves empty and move millions, they would be offering it for free!   This device is priced accordingly based on the imaging technology included in the device. 
 
Those that can afford it, and value the technology, will purchase the Lumia 1020.

Not in Europe until September. That sucks.

I'm totally blown away by the Lumia 1020 Camera. Would certainly look audacious on a "Phablet"... Just saying Nokia.

$300 ..oh well looks like I'm waiting

That averages out to about $12.50/month for the device, over a two year period.  Go ahead, take the plunge :)

Is there any point in buying this full price w/o contract?  Would't we be stuck with AT&T as it wouldn't work with other carrier's signals anyway?  Also, 299? Really???, I do get that in a perfect world the price would be very fair b/c of all the technology, but in this world they have some serious competition, and at 99 or 150 they would have swept away some unhapy Iphone owners before the new Iphone comes out.  What the hell are they thinking?!!!!!  I have a line that could be upgraded now, but at 299 my wife can continue to use my old Iphone (she lost her L900).  I guess I'll slowly end my family plan contract and work my way to T-Mobile.

Honestly, if the 1020 came with expandable microSD storage and standard 64GB, I would've willingly dropped $600 that I have right now for it. Unfortunately, no microSD, no sale.

原来美国也有穷人啊，这么好的手机三百美金都得吧得的

I think I agree, but I am not sure.

I think he's talking about the price being $300 in the US. But thats with a 2 year contract.

I can't tell if he's a real commenter or a troll. :-\

I agree. The only thing I can gather...I think his name might be Mike and there is a chance he loves Lumia's.

When in doubt, bet on troll.

I'm so torn..

The 300 dollar price tag makes sense. The camera technology in this phone is so different than any other smartphone in existance, that it doesn't become an overly produced cheap sensor like the 8MP ones we see today in so many smartphones. Along with all the software enhancements, I could see why this phone would go for 300 on contract. However, that  price sucks and I really hope they get some sales (or at least bundles) going.

$300 is not that much compare to the other phones in the market

$10 says my 5 year old 12MP Canon Rebel takes better pictures than that phone. Sure it's 41MP but it's still a phone with just a 3X zoom without a fine focus filter. It'll take alright pictures for the casual photographer.
 
Also, what's up with not having a 1080p screen? Believe it or not you can easily tell the difference between a 720p and a 1080p screen without looking hard.

ofc your Canon will be better, but its not 10mm thin.

Believe it or not, you physically can't tell the difference between a 720p and 1080p screen at that size.

1080p screens along with 2000mAh batteries don't play nice. Next thing people would be complaining about is battery life.

Paying an extra $200 is nothing.  Sorry, you spend that much on 2 to 4 dinners at a restaurant.  Plus the experience you have dining out is ephemeral.  Whereas, you spend the $200 here you get a phone and a camera that's awesome in 1 device.  People need to put things into perspective when they're comparing value.

Not if you don't spend that much on dinning or dine out often. $50 - $100 a meal is crazy expensive. So I wouldn't do that either. I spend about $50 a month on lunch.
Also, you need food to stay alive.

Well, looks like you're financially responsible then the phone is not for you just like a Lexus would not be suitable for a person who can only afford a Kia.  I don't get the big deal about it.  Most Americans live on credit anyway, so dropping $200 is nothing.

You are right most do live on credit, which is sad. I am thankful I worked in the financial industry for a while out of high school. I think it helped me learn the value of a dollar.

the value of a dollar is about $0.67, thanks to liberal government handouts.

Go troll somewhere else, this is a phone forum.

oh look how cute...a retarded boy special needs child learned about the interwebs. next thing you know he'll be pooping in the toilet rather than in his mommy's panties.
 

Did I miss it, or are they still ignoring the other storage issue. 

Wait...there's an issue with Other Storage???

Well at $299 this phone will barely be a blip on the radar of most consumers. Nokia/Microsoft had a chance to generate massive mindshare by putting a unique and innovative device (a high end smartphone with an unprecedented camera and camera software) on one of the top 3 mobile OS's in reach of the Regular Joe Consumer. The device has a unique selling point easy for sales reps to grab onto, a camera at 41megapixels 5 times that of the average competitor,this combined with the promised promotions and advertising by ATT and Nokia, segued into and tied into other WP exclusives such as Free Office Mobile, Live Tiles, Xbox Live and some exclusive Lumia apps would give the sales rep quite a bit of material after the attention getter of the 41 megapixel camera. As I mentioned in another comment, most consumers don't really need to understand the tech, nor is an in depth explanation required we are sadly lulled by bigger numbers. Bigger is EASILY sold as better in most cases. Most people don't know what 2 gigs of RAM looks like. They do understand that 2 is bigger and are easily sold that 2 is better than 1. Dual core and quad core are more than single core. What it means to the non tech. Who knows. But they are easily sold that it is faster. Thought here are other factors such as demands of particular apps or even the demand of a particular OS involved that that a differs de as well. So 41 megapixels is a totally easy and Powerful sale over even the closet competitor which would be about 16 megapixels. Windows Phone is almost invisible to the masses as it rests in the shadow of Android/Samsung and Apple. This 41 megapixel beast could have brought it (Windows Phone and Nokia)into focus if priced within reach. But alas, $299 for a brand of phones that are barley selling(relative to the competition and desires of Microsoft and Nokia) won't shine much light of interest on this device. There will be promotions, some folks will ask questions though be told it costs $300, they will then choose what's familiar, orders of magnitude more popular and walk out the store with a discounted previous generation Iphone or cheaper Android phone.
The tech media will devour the story that Nokia , a stuggling company, invested millions bringing an innovative device to market, committed to Microsoft WP platform and no one bought it. They will claim that not even innovative, pioneering technology can persuade people to buy Windows Phones. Nokia will then later this year, early next year be challenged by Apples new device with updated photography prowess. Current leaks point to Apple making improvements in that area. Samsung with the fierce marketing and Billions of dollars to throw into the fight and their ubiquitous presence(you will be assimilated - resistance is futile) will develop rather quickly as is their way an even better device than their S4 Zoom. And alas around Q4 this year Q1 next year the smartphone photography frontier will be populated with at least two devices by the top two that will offer good photography options on a smartphone. With their mindshare and advertising skills, they will appear to be pioneering this frontier with affordable dices. Microsoft will finally get it and it and Nokia will try to up their anty bit by this time they will be perceived as copy cats. MICROSOFThas a chance to invest in subsidizeing this devoxce to make it more accessible and the pioneering device it should be. They blew it.

This might be the longest comment I have ever seen here.

I fell asleep just by scrolling past it.

lol

Dude, what are you talking about? That's definitely an essay . . . lol

Nice prologue or is it a prophecy?

Looooooong

This is too expensive. But the price should come down in a few months, when they realise that no one is buying one.

It should've been 199 with the battery/camera grip... I will wait for it to go down, looks like 920

Waiting for the price to come down. It looks pretty awesome though!! And i'm stoked about the new apps coming to WP8 (Vine, Path, Tumblr...)!!

$300 dolars it is a fair price, but it won't work. Nokia is beginning to turn around, gaining market share, they have to be more aggressive. Even being the best phone out there they can't price it more than the iPhone 5 and Samsung galaxy s4. I will pay the $300 for it, but at the same time I think at this price they will not sell as many phones they are expecting.

They better change that pricing before the 26th or I'll wait til it goes on sale. Now im bummed out. $200 or $250 I was ok with, not $300 though.
Edit: I've changed my mind. Ill gladly pay the $300 lol.

This phone should have definitely been released on all the carriers at the same time.

Nokia loves exclusives with AT&T, while making other carriers wait and still give the two finger salute to non-partners especially those enforcing Qualcomm made CDMA components (not Just limited to Sprint Corporation).  Save the argument of Verizon which does not represent the entire CDMA carrier community.
 
talk to me when Nokia gets deals with USCC, Premiere, Bluegrass, C Spire, Cricket, Open Mobile de Puerto Rico, nTelos, and Especially Sprint along the rest of the CDMA carrier community.  I'll change my view of Nokia when Stephen Elop and company make an honest effort to gain respect in the entire Qualcomm based CDMA community.

It wouldn't have mattered if it had been released on all carriers - people would still balk at the price and declare that it is 'overpriced'.
 
It will be fine and sell at AT&T's projections as planned.

I am getting so pissed that verizon keeps getting left out of these new phones. by the time verizon gets them, nokia will be three generations ahead on suck-t&t.

If iPhone buyers will drop $299 on a 32GB iPhone which IMO is seriously inferiour to the 1020 in most any way why is this so bad.. Just because Americans have grown up on getting phones on credit and think they get a cheap deal does nit mean the rest of the world does.. This phone will sell at $699 outright.. IMO you would be better of buying it as such and getting a SIM Only deal with it. I would hope the US telecom maffia will not charge the same for SIM only as they do for a contract with a phone..
 
Telfonica will get the global variant/64GB version probably around €699 before tax and subsidies which in most european countries will probably mean it will goes for around €749 or so. Lot of money, but you then get a €20/mo SIM only deal with unlimited data. 

If the specs are the why didn't they put the 41 mp sensor in 920??????

If I didn't just get a 920, I would have got this phone. Damn!

Does the thought of a matte white color option sound sexy to anyone else?!

299$ is not alot for an high-end phone?
One awesome phone to promote and people will notice it, if they think its too expensive ATT will (hopefully) point them in the direction of the L920/5/8 area. And so more people will come over to WP. And that is a good thing.'
 
I run L920 and will prob pick up the 1020 as its time for me to  extend my current provider.
 

Wish it had quad-core processor and bigger battery for extended hours. Looks like the Nokia 'Phablet' with the stylus might just be next device. The 1020 is gorgeous mhen. Love it!!

 
Simply put, a "disappointment". They should have just named it "Lumia 941". This is not a succesor to L920. Most of the main hardware components are exactly same. Same processor, same display (or atleast same as 925), same battery (biggest disappointment). I atleast expected a higher clock speed dual core processor as we already know quadcore is not yet supported.  just increasing RAM to process the imaging is not sufficient. Dont even get me started on the pricing. I'll guarantee that the price will come down within a month. I'll wait for the next gen lumia

I want to respectfully disagree with you. This camera is light-years ahead of what is currently available on any mobile phone (with the exception of the 808). The Lumia 920 (which I own) is a nearly flawless device (yes, I am bias, lol), but the Lumia 1020 deserves the name and the title of "successor". The camera is an unparalleled upgrade in it's own right.
As for the price, yeah, it'll drop in a month or two so everyone can relax.
(and "941 doesn't sound nearly as smooth as "Ten-Twenty")

just upgrading camera isn't enough (however good the camera is). The camera performance on 9xx series is pretty darn good. For most of the ppl 9xx series is good enough. You have to offer atleast a little more than an awesome camera. With the same processor 1020 is not going to be so "flawless" i fear. And with the same mAh battery there are going to be lots of complaints i expect. Neverthless lets agree to disagree ;). I'm going to wait till GDR3 update and then make an upgrade. I'm content with my L800 even now :). I'm one of the earliest supporters of lumia range phones, cant bear to see them fail which i'm afraid may happen with this phone atleast in terms of volumes

Well, 1080P isn't supported yet, and not everyone wants a 5" screen.  You can thank the complainers for not increasing the battery size.  They likely didn't increase it to try and keep it as thin as possible aside from the hump.  I thought the the thickness of the 920 was fine, so I would be fine increasing the size to get a couple hundred more milliamps.  Oh well, it still appears to be a great phone if the price is right.

You have a very good point still :) As for me, I'm know that things move quickly and this just a warm-up compared to what they'll likely release later this year. I hate how often new devices come out, but at least Microsoft is extending support for them through update (that if carriers allow it (wtf?!)).

Well I still have a year left on contract so it will probably be free by the time I can upgrade (trying to look on the bright side of me not being able to get this phone now).

where is the link to the video presentantion again?

Go to youtube.com and type in Nokia, click the first video and start watching :)
 
Best regards!

Do people forget how quickly phones are discounted? Even on AT&T? The 920 launched at $99 and quickly went on sale 2 weeks later at $49. Anyone remember in the forums people trying to call AT&T to get them to give them a refund due to the price drop? I did and got my credit. Amazon had it for nothing shortly thereafter. These phones, especially WP devices, never stay at full price for long. Deals are always available during the Black Friday - Christmas shopping season.

Do you think that AT&T are ever open to 'early' contract renewal? I got a 900 which is not eligible for upgrade until next march - a phone they pretty much made obsolete with WP8 ..

$300?  Ouch.  Thousands collectively just said "never mind."

I think a lot of folks are missing the point about $299 being way overpriced. It's not at all that the 1020 might not be worth it, or deserving of it given the incredible technology inside... it's the context. WP has thus far failed to really prove itself as a viable 3rd option behind iOS and Android. I hate it, but it remains niche, nothing more. Nokia is dying a long slow death against Samsung and HTC and Apple.
 
Look, this is like a football team being down 56-7 late in the 4th quarter, that comes out with an *amazing*, complex, perfectly executed razzle-dazzle play... a running play. That nets them 9 yards. It's not that it wasn't an amazing play, it's that.... really? That's it? At this point?
 
Nokia needs to get this phone into as many hands as possible, as fast as humanly possible, period. Pricing it at $300 and locking into ATT just doesn't make a lot of sense from where I'm sitting.

I'm not sure and I think its too soon to say, but I am forcasting a varient of the Lumia 1020 on Verizon and possibly even T-Mobile if it follows suit as the Lumia 920, possibly when 1080p screens are supported.

Enough with the 1080p crap. Your eyes cannot render that res. It is a gimmick to make tech goober's think they are special but the only thing that happens is that your battery drains faster. The same goes for the whiners who want quad cores when Windows phone does not need them.

I am a little surprised at the people defending the price of this phone.  Either they are taking on the fan boy mentality or they are in denial.  The phone is essentially a Lumia 928 with an extra 1 GB of RAM and a higher res camera for $250 more.  Looking at it another way, the flagship Android phones come with faster processors and higher capacity batteries for $50-100 less.  Either way, off-contract the Galaxy S4 and the Lumia 1020 are pretty similarly priced, so it appears that AT&T feels like charging more on-contract just because they think they can.
 
I already have a nice pocket sized camera that can take plenty good pictures to use when I don't want to lug my DSLR around.  So in my case I would be essentially paying a $250 premium to combine the two.  Uhh, no thanks, and it appears many others feal the same way.

well ok. I was hoping Nokia would have a a couple of surprises like maybe a bigger screen and bigger battery, those were a couple of reasons why I sold my 920 for a HTC One. It looks like i'll have to wait until next year and hope Nokia bumps the specs for their next superphone.

High res images from the Lumia 1020.....all the better for the NSA to spy on you with.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/07/new-edward-snowden-documen...

Is the 1020 going to be at&t exclusive and if yes for how Long is the exclusivity? Also is the 1020 going to be available at Microsoft or Nokia or anyone else unlocked?

Stop. Giving. AT&T. All. Your. Business. WP will never be adopted if they keep giving AT&T all their business. BY the time their devices make it to the other carriers, they're outdated. The lumia 925 comes to Tmo, days later Nokia releases a model with DOUBLE the RAM. Geeze.

$299 on contract? Did Nokia pull a play from Blackberry?!
Looks like me and the 8X will be together a good while longer.

Are there no high-end WP8 devices with a SD card?   I love my Lunia 920, but I am constrained by the 32 GB size limit.  I know there are cloud services, but streaming music from the cloud eats up my data plan.  I'm holding on for a 64 GB WP8 phone or one with an SD card slot.  But, if that doesn't happen, then I guess it's Galaxy Tab 3 for me.  Nothing against Android.  They have a great product.  I just love WP8.  Hopefully something will come out by the end of the year.  Here's hoping...

My problems may be solved! Yay! Thank you Microsoft!
http://wmpoweruser.com/the-microsoft-store-to-carry-both-32-gb-and-64-gb...

Nope. The Microsoft Store has updated it site and removed the 64 GB version. So, now only the 32 GB is left. Oh well, Galaxy Note is a great phone. I'm sure the Note 3 will be great.

Wow. Matte white, that my friends, is awesome!

Yeah i'm also happy that the Lumia 1020 will come in matte yellow, good decision from Nokia! Best regards!

Lookie here. Looks like a ploy to lure in people who will buy something regardless of price. iPhone consumers do, but will Lumia lovers? Answer: Probably.

Can someone explain how a small outer lens with less apeture and a high MP count can make better pictures? I may wait for some reviews on the phone, to learn about the camera (and a price drop since a better model may come later this year). I love the phone, but also, can some mention something about how good the front camera is?

I think ATT did this because they priced 920 so low that they could not do price cuts to get pple to buy. and at 450, the 920 was not that appealing. at 300 they have a lot of room to market by giving specials etc.. I am sure they didnt want to price it very low from the start.

Oh cool, all the colors are matte :)

Everyone is talking about prices and so on. Anyway even impressed that Nokia stepped up and announced an amazing phone that will be coming out in 2 weeks? I personally think that's big. It's keeping it's hype rather than fading away.

yay AT&T so will be a Rogers exclusive in canada. 
 
Another hyped device tied to exlusive providers and later people will be surprised when it doesn't have amazing sale numbers.

Don't mind me, just another super jealous Verizon customer.

   The only solace I can take from this timed exclusivity is that by the time it's released on Verizon, the GDR3 update should be out so it could possibly have a 1080p screen, quadcore processor and expandable storage, all in an aluminum casing (Here's hoping).

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