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Could this be the Surface Phone? Microsoft awarded patents for a range of foldable mobile devices

I should preface this by saying that patents don't mean products. This could simply be Microsoft's way of protecting future ideas or prototypes that are simply too costly or problematic to ever see production. Still, it offers a tantalizing glimpse of what could be on the horizon.

A new patent granted to Microsoft last week shows dual and triple-hinged devices that support multiple configurations. They can be folded into something small and phone-like, placed in a "tent" mode, and even folded out to create a larger tablet. If this is Microsoft's vision for the Surface Phone, it will have very few comparable devices on the market, and certainly fits the Surface modus operandi of bringing something totally unique to existing form factors.

The patent's various configurations reveal double, and even triple-screened phones, that the patent describes as both a mini-tablet and a phone. The devices, which also include slide-out models that appear to include different types of housings, are described as supporting several use cases given the varied configurations possible as a result of their hinges.

It's particularly interesting, as Microsoft was also recently awarded a patent for an electrical hinge that would naturally be essential in any and, perhaps even all of these designs.

Patent filings don't always translate into products for market, but these recent developments are especially intriguing. Microsoft has long been teasing spiritually Surface-like mobile devices, and those devices, hopefully, are just around the corner.

More: Did Microsoft offer us a glimpse at their Surface "Phone" vision?"

Jez Corden
Jez Corden

Jez Corden is a Senior Editor for Windows Central, focusing primarily on all things Xbox and gaming. Jez is known for breaking exclusive news and analysis as relates to the Microsoft ecosystem while being powered by caffeine. Follow on Twitter @JezCorden and listen to his Xbox Two podcast, all about, you guessed it, Xbox!

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  • They will abandon it too, after a short time. Just like lumia
  • In theory, this would just be full Windows 10 on ARM, it's not like they're going to abandon full Windows 10 any time soon. Who knows, though. It's fun to speculate.
  • Edited, now it's Lumia
  • I can tell that you didn't get a lot of love as a child.
  • You should be more honest and just change your post to "I want to be down voted, please downvote me now!"  That is what you are really after. 
  • My expectations from #Microsoft #surfacephone #Windows10 in 2K17.   In 2007, Steve Jobs said "Today we are introducing 3 revolutionary products of this class. A wide screen iPod with touch controls, Revolutionary Mobile Phone, Break through internet communications device. ……These are not 3 separate devices, this is one device and we call it iPhone" and rest is history. So basically what people want is less number of devices (or just one device) to do their all daily tasks mixed with 'INNOVATION'.   Likewise, if Microsoft is able to converge the future proof Technologies in one device. Ie,   1.A Phone. 2.A PC (via Continuum using X86 on ARM Tech). 3.A VR/AR Device (when you plug in the VR goggles with similar tech used in HoloLens/Windows Holographic Shell).   I would say THIS IS THE NEXT BIG THING. Yes, a category defining a True 3-in-1 Device and you may call it Surface Phone. If Microsoft is able to implement/superimpose all this 3 technology in a single device, then the Hype will be massive and everyone will start loving the Windows in "Phone" form factor. Gradually developers interest will also increase or they will be forced to bring apps to the windows platform. Additionally developers can also make use of the various porting tools/bridge(Project Islandwood etc.) they can bring all their apps very easily like never before.   I can't wait to see when @panos_panay standing on the stage and telling "Today we are introducing 3 revolutionary products of this class. A Miniature Cellular PC, A Revolutionary Smart Phone, A Break through Augmented Reality Headset.……These are not 3 separate devices, this is One device and we call it Surface Phone"
  • That what I call also the next big thing
  • I will believe it when I see anything similar to this. The one OS is still a pipe dream. The one OS was supposed to solve the App gap. Windows on ARM is not one windows. Windows on ARM has been done before. Windows on ARM failed... 
  • That windows was limited.. This won't be.
  • This is impressive as I thought it would only be a phone with Continuum for Windows 10 on ARM
  • Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
  • In 2007, Steve Jobs introduced a revolutionary device. 10 years after, they can't do it any more, so we'll do it instead.
  • You got me pumped reading this.
    I really hope that Surface Phone redefines the mobile cellular device. It wouldn't be a Surface product if it didn't!
  • Windows is one of Microsoft's two main pillars, together with Office. It's not going anywhere.
  • Mary Jo Foley said that MS would initially work on 6", 10" and 14" devices for W10 on ARM.  The 6" model would obviously need a foldble screen to provide enough screen real estate for running W32 apps.  Besides, MS just signed up for using LG folable screen.  May be the Courier form factor is coming back.  :-) https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-said-one-lgs-first-customers-new-folda... Whether the initial 6" device is a phone or a tablet remiains to be seen.  Phone could be released in 2018 with RS4.  The 7nm processor could show up in that time frame.
  • They will abandon it, just like Surface?
  • Haha, that's where they are mistaken.
  • FYI, I was talking about the critics, thanks for the down votes ;)
  • Surface RT?
  • What are you talking about Microsoft just released a new line of Surface PCs why would they abandon the Surface line now? It's highly profitable and a major success to Microsoft over the new Macbook Pro's which people ended up buying that and realized its garbage and turned it in and replaced it with the Surface pro 4 or the Surface Book
  • Or the band 3
  • Lumia should never have been theirs to abandon to begin with. Buying Nokia was Ballmer's move, not Nadella's. It had to be abandoned. It wasn't the direction Microsoft, under Nadella, wanted to take. People pick and choose moves made by Microsoft, but don't analyze them or view them in context.
  • fyi... microsoft never bought Nokia
  • They bought the Nokia that mattered to people, now it's just a brand for a third party to slap in its phones.
  • I guess your right in a way. But don't forget that Nokia is the world's leading network company nowadays. And Nokia as a company was founded in the 19th century and only produced phones for about two decades. Here in Finland people associate Nokia with rubber boots as well. Everyone used to have a pair :)
  • Not really, all they bought was the part of Nokia that was destroying them ...their manufacturing plant. Nokia was more about the devices and innovations such as the 8110 Banana phone, 3310 brick, Communicator, 8800 Chrome premium phone, n95 the first true multimedia phone with great camera, lumia 1020 photography phone etc. Nokias innovations and patents stayed with Nokia and the employees who were laid off are what HMD is made of. The soul is still there
  • Nokias innovations and patents stayed with Nokia
    Source? I know for a fact that at the very least the PureView and ClearBlack trademarks went to Microsoft.
  • Yep they did. Pureview and Clearblack are just names that were synonymous with Lumia and those did go to Microsoft but the patents didnt, they were just licensed. Patents and trademarks are two entirely different things. Patents is the tech behind the name, so the name can easily be replaced with anything but the tech is the innovation. Read the first paragraph or so of the article PROPERLY to get your answer. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9820ZZ20130903
  • Nokia is licensing all the stuffs to microsoft... microsoft bought only the manufacturing of the phone and then microsoft sold it back to "nokia" called as HMD... HMD are ppl from the old Nokia device company that got laid off... Nowadays Nokia Networks is licensing the Nokia brand name to HMD to use Nokia on the phone... everything that are going to be released under the name of Nokia isnt from the real company Nokia... but from (HMD) ex-Nokia workers
  • All the people who made Nokia great had left after ms acquired it.
    Failure of Lumia is completely Microsoft's fault.
  • Nokia was failing long before Microsoft ever got involved. Microsoft gave them a new life. Granted that life was short, bit they would have been gone either way.
  • With Lumia devices they got bigger market share than iOS. Since they stopped to push devices via telecoms everything slowly died.
  • Long story cut short, I personally believe HMD is a company formed by Nokia and Microsoft in collaboration with FOXCONN to release Nokia Android devices. Which is why I also believe MS was so quick to "lay-off" all those employees and quickly gave away the Nokia brand to HMD. HMD came out of the blue and their sole creation was to build Nokia devices' formed by former Nokia staff and FOXCONN took over Nokias manufacturing plants that Microsoft bought from Nokia. Seems like it was decided when they signed the contract and MS included a clause that Nokia cant develope devices till the end of 2016. 2016 came and in an instant HMD happened, MS gave away the business they purchased and Nokia instantly licensed the brand and FOXCONN was instantly on board. As a seperate entity, Nokia profits and so does MS. For Nokia the advantage is clear, if HMD devices are a success, Nokia is back in thr game in a big way, if not, Nokia corp isnt affected. Microsoft on the other hand benefits from the success of Android without attaching its name to it for all the obvious reasons. Things like this just dont happen in one day and come out of no where. This is a win win situation for all thr players involved and if the plan fails, no one knows who the f*** HMD is, so it can just vanish without a whisper.
  • The problem I have is that mobile isn't going anywhere and Ballmer made the right decision to purchase Nokia however Satya is screwing up by ignoring it. Having office on other platforms isn't going to cut it because there too many more options.
  • I actually see MS pushing this until it has mind and market share like surface. Eventually if they get those then they can make a phone again. Just like they did with Surface laptop.
  • We watched this movie (trailer link) and it had a foldable phone in it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hfnDTvbtDUI
  • I saw a couple phone shots, but missed the foldable phone. What time was it at?
  • right at the beginning, can also be seen here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
  • This is nice idea, I would love to see a phone like this. Though I doubt it will be thin.. Thin is In nowdays.
  • Hold on, let me unfold my phone.
  • Westworld
  • I just tweeted that same things to Satya and Terry Myerson because they're stupid like that. Anyone see the article ever LG and Samsung says their next phone won't explode because they will put a cooling pipe in it; that's the same thing the 950 series has had for years now.
  • Adding a pipe, shrapnel, won't stop batteries from exploding, but the cpu will stay cool!
  • Years? The phone has been out just over a year.
  • hey I still use Lumia 810!
  • And XBOX? And Surface?  And Windows 10? And keyboards and mice?  *IF* these patents have to do with the fabled Surface phone, then they represent a finish line milestone for their immediate vision and not another transitional just-for-presence piece.  It is a subtle difference, but one that requires understanding.  The app gap is still a huge challenge for them, but that is a larger ecosystem issue and not uniquely constrained by mobile.
  • macha..veruthe vadi koduth adi vaanganda 😁 :P
  • hmm... 1. looks to big - not suitable for jeans or shirt pockets 2. heavy 3. battery will die fast - devices with 2 displays like Nintendo 3Ds can last for 4h. non stop playing 4. I dont need 2 screens. I want a smartphone, not a laptop 5. This beast looks like a Nokia communicator from the 90s = 9110i anybody?
  • I had the first 5" smartphone, (Dell Streak). Everyone said it was too big, ( I could make a true joke here) Tech reviewers stated that size phone would never take off, The Note came after that and the rest is history. Most phone are over 5"s. Who's to say what's too big or too small......As long as it serves a purpose...
  • Here, have a free upvote.
  • If this is going to be product they can stop building windows 10 mobile instead enable windows 10 mobile mode..
    1) if user using it in mobile screen 1 then already start screen in windows 10 works like mobile. They have to make .exe scale according to display size.
    2) as 835 support .exe there won't be problem. Or Combine windows 10 mobile with windows 10 so if user using screen 1 it works as mobile if user using it as tablet it works like windows 10..only problem would be how powerful is 835, battery 🔋 and heat and size of device..MS has more potential than Samsung and lg in this regard sadly its decades far for MS to reach that.
  • 😲
  • And this is exactly why they keep improving W10M. Not for the current devices but for the future, where windows 10 mobile will be a mode (like tablet mode) of widows 10. The future is bright, i just hope they can get some of these devs to jump on board with it and that we have some quality apps upon launch..
  • I guess so as they always reboot or combine stuff..zune combined with windows phone, it scrapped with win 8.1 then win 10.. Surface on arm then surface pro. Windows 10 has so much adopted from windows mobile..Right now MS is least concerned about developers unlike past they are just developing what they want its up to developers whether they want to build for Windows or not...laptops,desktops,gaming consoles,studios,2 in 1,HoloLens, car, windows10 on arm, windows mobile(lot of windows for developers).. Still developer are resisting to develop UWP App as they want to target win 7,8,8.1 users so if windows 10 becomes major os we will see more uwp apps. when MS bring their visual studio on par with .exe then .exe file become extinct.. When .exe files become extinct then MS will emerge as top player future lies in MS hands they leading future and right now it looks bright.
  • The future is bright?!? Are you kidding? In a time when everyone and their grandmother has a smart phone, MS has a market share world wife of almost nothing.
  • Ultimately you want every PC sale to become a tablet/phone sale by making the devices all one. If we assume foldable devices become industry standard and not just a gimmick then Windows has a major opportunity. Imagine 10 years from now there is no such thing as a new PC without a foldable or rollable screen. There is no reason why your phone/PC/tablet aren't all the same device. That might not be enough to make Windows #1 in mobile computing, but it makes them a major player by default of making every PC a phone.
  • Well said. Very few people understand that. Microsoft has said this over and over again. They need to keep W10M updated and learn from it so that they can implement the best from it in their upcoming products.
  • I agree. And when can I buy one.
  • May be before westworld season 2 I hope they use this device in their series. If this device is real deal then mostly this October or next year..as Samsung and lg going to release foldable smartphones this yr and MS going to concentrate on mobile RS3 i guess somewhere in between lies answer.
  • okey, again.. who will buy such a device and why? Mainstream doesnt need such functions... they need a basic device which is representative and working popular app
  • I didn't know I needed a smartphone until I used one. Habits evolve.
  • We'll people like you taught who will buy 2 in 1 when there are tablets..now 2 in 1 are separate category working parallel along with laptop/desktop and they replaced tablets..so who will buy such a device people who carry 2 in 1 or tablet & mobile..in short every one who use internet,who are professionals, who are artists..they will have mobile+2 in 1 in their pockets..
  • I would so I don't need to go find my Surface when I want to do something with a bigger screen. Plus it looks so freakin cool!!
  • You were probably saying this about the Surface when Microsoft first released them.
  • Yeah and a decade ago people said the same about smartphones, don't need them don't want them. I just need a phone that can make calls and sent texts. The internet is something I'll access at home or work on my (desktop) PC. The mobile revolution changed people's perceptions about what technology can do for is. People need to be shown what is possible, because what they don't have they won't mis. But once you have experienced the limitless convenience of new tech, like the smartphone there is no way of going back to just a dumb phone! The same can be said for a ultra mobile PC devices that's also your phone and AR/VR device! Time will tell, but Microsoft is on to something that's for sure!
  • How does this folding phone get us missing mobile apps?
  • Because devs will see how great full Windows works on an arm powered portable device and change the code to run on it to get more money from consumers
  • they are not developing apps for pcs with windows 10 which has a user base of more than a billion, what makes u think windows on arm is gng to change tht.
  • Well, I'm not trying to sound like a delusional fanboi,, but the fact that Windows will be ultra portable, for the first time, might be a differentiator...................
  • I can only try and be positive, otherwise you're right, this is too little, far too late, let's just hope devs think it's a good option.
  • That's what ms should have done from the start. Make full win10 that can be scaled down to phone size. Now, if they make an arm phone running full win10, win 10 mobile will be abandoned for sure. If they use a win10 mobile for it, then it will only run continuum on tablet mode and people will demand for a full windows. Of course they improve win10 mobile to make it at par with win10 but that would be a waste of resources. If they somehow decide to merge the two (win10 with mobile support) then probably it will not be compatible with current win phones aka lumia 950 since if im not mistaken only newer arms will support full windows 10. Tough choices.
  • How is this different from these Samsung renders? http://www.gizmochina.com/2017/01/12/samsungs-first-foldable-display-sma...
  • That's merely a concept, not a patented design.
  • .. this ^ and Microsoft also showed this concept in 2009 in a video that they made showing their vision of future technology: http://www.windowscentral.com/did-microsoft-tease-its-surface-phone-vision
  • VaticanUK It will be interesting to see if this patent does bring that 2009 Future Vision video concept to reality. It seems that though there is a great uphill battle and nothing is certain, Microsoft's strategy to bring a unique, context-conforming pocketable PC with telephony to market is on course. That 2009 video, One Core, Windows 10 on ARM, the Centennial App Bridge and this patent which brings elements we've all envisioned and more shows Microsoft is serious about a category defining ultimate Mobile device. As Jez reiterates patents don't always lead to products, but we are confident SOMETHING category-defining and if not the manifestation of patent yet, maybe sooner than later.😎
  • Sure, but neither is an actual product. And the rumor is that orders for screens to fit in Samsung's device were already placed: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/samsungs-foldable-smartphones-render-shows-thre... Granted, not the best source. But it's not like this Microsoft patent will raise many eyebrows - the design has already been discussed for quite some time.
  • Convertible devices with the potential of running full operating system is the (near) future. It's common that competitors share similar ideas, they know it's happening around them and that is essential to bring out the best they can. I personally hope the brand (Surface) will bring something that will change the game for good and slowly shaping it to a companion for our interaction with AI eventually to become a waypoint / predecessor to a standalone AR device (HoloLens 2.0 may be) for the future.
  • As different as running full Windows 10 and Android in 2-in-1s: one has powerful Windows apps in its ecosystem, the other does not.
  • MS own the patent, but that doesn't mean they won't allow others to use it.
  • They actually want others to use it.  So that they can get royalties without having to do much of anything.
  • The MS one has a bendable screen so when it's folded out flat it would have a full size screen, this one is 3 screens next to each other and has a visible break between each one, still cool but not AS cool..
  • No, both are there, if you visit the patent page.
  • Strap yourselves in, here we go
  • Yep, I'm due an upgrade in February. I want to wait for this. I think we've waited long enough now MS, please give us a date so we can start to plan. All this guess work is getting difficult to work with. One of the biggest problems being an MS phone user is the difficulty planning an upgrade, and that needs to be addressed if you ever want users tied in to the Windows Mobile system.
  • I'd not count of Feb... Think November. Unless we get surprised at MWC...
  • It'll be ready when it's ready... We at least know that!
  • I'd count to 2018 :)
  • Says the Terminator...
  • Looks like the stolen razor laptop in a small form factor. Nice!!
  • Or tablet.
  • ........hopefully just around the corner......in 2018 😨
  • If this is intended for production they need to release it in the next 6 months, especially worldwide. If they wait any longer both Google & Apple will have their own versions by the end of the year. MS need to strike hard with their ideas, and deliver them well. People may hate on Windows Phone, but that didn't stop the competition from stealing from/being heavily influenced by Metro. Lumia (under Nokia) also had many "firsts" that are now part of competitor devices.
  • Right. That's exactly my point with the Samsung renders linked above. This isn't pushing devices far beyond what's already anticipated.
  • I didn't see your message when I posted, but that is even more worrying. If that article is true then MS need to be ready in Q3/Q4 as well... Unless this is a collaboration with Samsung to produce Windows 10 devices (patent licensing deal)? It definitely wouldn't run Windows Mobile, but Samsung do currently produce Windows devices. No doubt an Android version would also be available.
  • I wish MS and Nokia(HMD Global) make a deal for producing some windows powered mobile devices in future. Their upcoming flagships seems interesting.
  • Yep. MS always wait too long. Remember when Sinclair invented the first Windows based OS for the QL, remember how quickly Apple ripped it off? That was FAST. MS came along later and did grab the market, but they did try hard to muck it up by giving Apple a head start. Shame the QL didn't win, then we would have had fantastic Sinclair innovation in our devices now. Oh Sir Clive it was so much better when you used to come up with mad designs every week, you are missed.
  • But we can't have a failed device launched in a rush. They need to give something that works. And that will probably take time. But yeah Samsung is supposedly trying to make an android version of continuum, so they might beat Microsoft to the market. Full windows on ARM is what we need to go to market first. If that works as a proof of concept, seeing wider adoption, then a foldable display is just a form factor they need to incorporate. As importantly, we need to see other manufacturers adopt the full windows on ARM
  • Continuum works well, but sadly will be forgotten when another vendor "invents it" and brings it to a wider market. Personally, I have a limited need for it so my dock sits in the cupboard most of the time. It will be interesting to see what happens with the ARM stuff
  • Yes, like the way Samsung will for Android. Or apple might. I used Continuum to work for a couple of days, having AutoCAD 360 on it - drafting isn't a realistic option on it, but marking drawings, using excel for quantities etc., email, word, and even OneDrive and Edge. I practically stopped using my laptop, everything worked so surprisingly well. Btw, this is when my phone's display was not working, and still I got around easily (used my spare 830 to call etc). Heck even 9gag was good to use on continuum. I don't have a display dock, so I need to get it out for charging though. ARM will likely trump this experience in every way, as and when it comes :)
  • It doesn't matter much because Windows would still be the only one who could run desktop apps while in tablet mode.
  • What mainstream desktop app is good for a tablet? I cannot think of one! Windows Tablets would sell if this was the case!
  • Though not ideal, I use full Office without much of a problem in my Surface Pro 4 in tablet mode. Is that mainstream enough for you?
  • Office is available anywhere and the features of "full" Office aren't mainstream. It isn't a sales point for a tablet.
  • I tried to filter data in Excel Mobile a few months back but couldn't find for the life of me the feature; did it with ease with full Excel, though. Same thing with converting ink to text in OneNote Mobile. You were saying?
  • All these killer features. I cannot believe Windows 10 is selling so poorly.
  • Windows tablets do sell (see: Surface).
  • The surface isn't a tablet. It is an ultrabook with a removable keyboard that you never remove. The experience is very poor without the keyboard. The only time I would remove mine is after starting a movie on an airplane. That and it doesn't sell that well. Enough to be profitable, which is great, but the sales numbers aren't that large.
  • The Surface 3 is, I have been running that for quite some time now and can work on it quite happily including VPN through to my at work PC. I have a keyboard which I only ever attach if I am writing emails etc because touch works perfectly well for everything else.
  • You are a mas0chist or have very simple needs. Windows with only a touch screen is frustrating. I love my SP3, but only when the keyboard is attached.
  • Not at all, I can do pretty much all every day tasks on it using touch screen with no real issue. What is so frustrating? The only things I have had issues with is certain insider preview builds have caused problems. Like over Christmas whenever I tapped in the address bar Edge would crash, but that is the nature of beta builds..
  • Just the menus and most of the software isn't optimized for touch. Most of the interface just isn't as easy and simple to use as Android and the apps are terrible. It is nice because you have the power of full Windows, but you really need the precision of a mouse or touchpad to harness it. It is great that it gives you the option though.
  • Perhaps if you only use professional legacy software, but even then the Surface pen included with every Surface sold gives precision interaction without the keyboard. 90% of the software on my Windows devices are from the app store and they are optimized for touch.
  • Yep totally agree :)
  • There is an app called TouchMousePointer, for an on-screen mouse/touchpad. Now you don't need your Surface cover. Or use the pen... or attach a real mouse
  • That's just the thing, I don't really ever have many issues with touch on the surface 3 apart from some websites that implement hover menus, they can become a pain but everywhere else in the system inclusing all apps is not a problem. The cover for me is all about the keyboard. If I wan't to type more than say 20 words i'll plug it in as I can type almost as fasst as my proper keyboard then..
  • Okay, you are officially a moron.
  • How is a Surface not a tablet?  I use my Surface Pro 4 all the time without the keyboard when I'm casually surfing on the couch.
  • The surface isn't a tablet. It is an ultrabook with a removable keyboard that you never remove. 
    Uh, what? 1) Surface/Surface Pros don't come with keyboards, you buy them separately. 2) I remove mine's keyboard all the time, it's the whole point of 2-in-1s.
    The experience is very poor without the keyboard.
    I have no problems with it.
    That and it doesn't sell that well. Enough to be profitable, which is great, but the sales numbers aren't that large.
    Sigh. Again this argument. If you only take Surface sales into account, then yeah, they're not nearly as substantial as IPads or Android tablets. When you take into account its clones' sales - Samsung Galaxy TabPro S, Eve V, Lenovo Miix 710, Hwawei Matebook and others - the scenario is completely different (yeah, it's a MSPowerUser link. Tried to find a Windows Central one, but failed): https://mspoweruser.com/strategy-analytics-tablet-market-continue-shift-...    
  • Every Surface you see has the keyboard. It is rare you see a Surface anyways. It is good Microsoft is doing well with 2:1 devices. I would argue they are eating into laptop sales more than Android though. I feel that Android tablets would be declining in sales no matter what. Phablets are probably the cause more than Windows. I know u stopped caring about tablets after getting a large phone.
  • I know u stopped caring about tablets after getting a large phone.
    No, you don't, I carry my Surface Pro 4 with me almost all the time - most of it without the keyboard - and always choose it instead of my phone to browse the web whenever I have it within my reach.
  • Unless you never use it as a tablet, why wouldn't you remove the magnetic keyboard? My brother removes his SP4 keyboard all the time. Everything I've heard is that Surface sells very well and the business is consistently growing rapidly.
  • Assuming you're talking about Surface Book, I use mine all the time without the keyboard, for marking up PDFs with the pen. I quite often reverse the screen, so that I can use it in touchscreen mode while at a desk, which for some workflows is much more fluid.
  • What a muppet....i use my surface pro 1 mostly without the keyboard, I use the keyboard sometimes. So what? No one cares how I use it, they certainly don't care how you do
  • @bleached re: "The surface isn't a tablet. It is an ultrabook with a removable keyboard that you never remove" Perhaps for you, but not for everyone. On my SP3 I leave my keyboard almost permantly detached, and only use it as a tablet. When I want to use the keyboard I often have to wander around my house trying to remember where I left it. I find typing on the on-screen keyboard more than sufficient for light duties. I only use the keyboard when I take it into work, which I haven't done for almost a year now. It's a great tablet, and does everything I need - the keyboard is definitely optional, and I would've been just as happy without it.  
  • I use both Photoshop and Illustrator in full tablet mode as they have finally released some touch/pen features.  Plus Autodesk makes a fantastic sketching program called Sketch Book that works beautifull on the tablet.  ​And as an IT tech, I love the portability of my Surface over a much heavier and shorter batteried laptop.  I'm still using the old Surface Pro 2 and love it.  Most people I give a tour of the Surface line to fall in love with them and end up purchasing one.  The real problem is that Apple has done such a fantastic job in marketing to people that they are the best in every category that its damn near impossible to break through.  Especially in the art world.  But its far from true and always has been.
  •   As far as a "standard user" goes: my wife is the least tech person I know and she's been using a Surface tablet for 3 years now.  I just recently upgraded her Pro 1 or a 3 non-Pro and she was very happy.  She primarily uses Office suite and Facebook/Pintrest.  I asked her if she wanted to switch it out for a laptop this last Christmas and pretty much said "Hell no".  Now my children are able to use it in full tablet mode to do homework, educational websites, and play games.  It is the most versatile device made. 
  • How about the program I use to adjust the settings of the DSP audio processor that is installed in my car?  As of right now, I have to use my Surface Pro 4 each time I want to make an adjustment.  Just because you don't have a use case for it, doesn't mean others won't either.
  • No, not really. Apple and Google devices will run their mobile operating systems. Microsoft will run a "full OS" with continuum, inking, desktop applications, project Rome, etc. This next evolution will be one where first doesn't necessarily mean right or will win. This next evolution needs to bring something extra. Not just iOS or Android. IMO, when people buy the other devices they will release that something is missing. That's when the penny will drop!
  • These look very similar to the prop devices that were used in Westworld. They folded for mobile configuration and then hinged out to provide a tablet format. They were also triple hinged. Not saying that's the design for the patents, but interesting development. Don't apple also have a hinged design registered at Patent Office? Could this be in response to their hinged attempt???? As for seeing the light of day, who knows. They would have to figure out how to get a seamless edge on the screen joints, maybe that's the electrical hinge??
  • Isn't the display meant to be flexible, - one display,  per unit, -no gaps?
  • Yes
  • Wonder if both the two pane and three pane versions of the patent make production. Looks interesting.
  • It's all hinging on hinges! 
  • And what about WhartonBrooks and it's Cerulean Smartphone?
  • LOL.  
  • A bunch of talk and missed deadlines.
  • Coming soon™
  • Waiting for bots n bridges :P
  • Is it device used in Westworld Team Park?
  • i can see the screen being fragile.
  • The flexible displays being developed by LG and Samsung aren't made of glass so that will help.
  • Folks Microsoft's Tablet was going to be the foldable 2 screen Courier but it was not produced because Bill Gates killed it because it did not have proper Email software and other software issues. Could we see the rebirth of the Coirier dual screen tablet? Check out YouTube they hve Old videos showing how the Courier looked and worked and folks it made the Ipad seem like JOKE. Microsoft screwed up not bringing it to the market place with the single screen "Surface" design.there have images of a surface dual smart phone with pen. I think the "Surface smart phone wil debut later this year. last year Pegatron a firm that makes devices for Apple and Microsoft was reported be test production proceedures for making the "Surface" smart phone. If this is true? This means the "Surface smart phone is not a myth and that Microsoft has at least got one model of the "Surface" smartphone getting ready to go to the Market place 
  • In regards to the Courier, it was more than just email software. Balmer famously threw a chair in a meeting, saying that the day Linux (it was going to be Android powered) ran on a Microsoft device was the day he resigned. I worked with the product designer at another company after he (and I) left MS. It was a sore point. The Courier could have put MS on the map in portable computing in a very real way. But even back then, they were focusing more on business and enterprise use internally than on consumer use. It would have been a great consumer device, I feel. But we'll never know.
  • Courier!   https://youtu.be/UmIgNfp-MdI
  • exactly my tuought!
  • This reminds me of the device Microsoft showed in their future vision video. Although, patents don't always translate into products, they have shown us that this is part of their vision.
  • Microsoft seems to have gone,"business only" and sadly there are still not enough apps. So even a business interested in Microsoft would likely not find the necessary apps. Changing the world is a neat trick if you can pull it off but in the meantime, why not give us the apps that we have wanted from the beginning?
  • You can't force developers to make apps if you don't give them an audience. That means the only way to gain an audience is to provide some sort of experience that is innovative and attractive *even* if there is currently an app gap. At that point, the audience grows and then developers will flock to it. If it runs full x86 apps as well, possibly only in tablet mode, that will provide *some* relief to the app gap, plus a better mobile web experience. With a tablet/phone like shown here, the loss of MyFitnessPal is *almost* nonexistent. You can use the website instead (though its still inferior to the app and i still can't believe a mobile site doesn't exist). This would apply to a lot of services that aren't on W10M yet. Plus, you'll get W10 apps as well (again, probably only in tablet mode), so that'll help too. This may be the feature they need to bring people back.
  • Mobile native apps are on the decline anyway. Web apps are the future, and in the meantime 32-bit programs on a Windows 10 PC in your pocket should be enough to win a lot of people over.
  • Are they? Didn't Apple just claim a billions dollars in App Store sales over Christmas and such? Just sayin'...you're statement doesn't make any sense. They are only on the decline to us Win 10 Mobile users. I.E. we are losing them left and right, the only option is to use a website. Unless something drastic happens...the 950 will be my last MS Phone.
  • The fact that something currently brings in a lot of money doesn't mean it always will. Web apps are getting more powerful every year, and they are cross-compatible. It makes more sense to developers to build web apps than native apps these days. Besides, the gold rush on the app store is all but over, and it is more or less ruled by large corporations now. That means the interest among smaller developers will wane.  
  • It makes sense to use web apps. I completely agree. Apple will never give up the "walled garden". Their main source of revenue is phone and app sales. They wouldn't purposely slice off their main revenue stream. Money talks...as for MS. I've been a very loyal supporter for years, but I have grown tried of the lack of apps and not being able to fully take advantage of some of the items in my house due to using a Windows device...or even use my bank. Love my 950. I don't love it that much as to not want to switch.
  • Very well said.
  • Not only web apps but personal assistants will eventually take over traditional apps.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drXNPy23Xco&t=2s
  • Foldable devices feel like they might be bulky to carry, even if it is only the displays that fold out and they don't house other key components. Plus an extra display on the top (user facing) side (upon folding). Would still buy it! My 950XL has been promising when using comtinuum
  • Hinges? That's definitely a Surface.
  • This looks like a great concept, first time I've seen the locking hinge mechanism which solves the issue hard bends on the screen. Very clever, also found the image of what appeared to be the tri-fold version fitting into a keyboard dock really compelling. Mobile shell on 1, tablet mode on 2/3 and full windows with the keyboard. That redefines what mobile is and definitely falls in line with their recent statements about re-imagining the category.
  • Let this one be true. Looks brilliant.
  • Surface Courier!
  • It'll never be called Courier. Dull name which screams office hardware supplies in the 90s. Needs a snappier name.
  • Couriér?
  • Anyone seen Westworld? They have something very similar albeit more futuristic of course, but the concept is there.
  • the "concept" was here since the very first Nokia comunicator 9110i
  • I miss my old Nokia E7 ... with its 'continuum', hdmi out, usb OTG, awesome keyboard .... that 'mini surface book' style seems interesting. but unfortunately, the OS will not be ready for that, if they lauch something before 2020. The lack of apps will remain.... Also the bugs. The more suitable solution is to have a real Windows 10 inside that, as we have on tablets and pcs.
  • The funny thing is that if they want to surface phone take some market share more than now they must use the w10 and not the mobile version.So isn't that means the w10m is doomed cause all we need it's the full version?
  • A bit bigger, thinner E7-like device would definitely be interesting to me.
  • I'd throw in my money for a device similar to that! Make it something special, different and i'm in! Nice design tho!
  • Where is Microsoft going to get the display technology for this? Is LG or Samsung going to sell it to them first? Can they patent something they don't have the technology for?
  • The patent is for the idea. This is how they envision the possibility of making a foldable device. That's what they patent. Of course, most patents filled never actually turn into real products. But yes, to make this, Microsoft will likely get the display from LG or Samsung or someone else. Pretty much like any other company.
  • When LG or Samsung have the technology to create the screen required for this, they are not going to sell it to Microsoft when they can create their own exclusive device with it. I don't see where Microsoft gets the screen to debut this technology.
  • If that's what they decide to do Microsoft will get royalties because of this patent.
  • LG, Samsung and Apple all have patents for folding displays. Microsoft is late to the game here. Kyocera even had that folding phone a couple years ago. It I recall, even if they awarded a patent, it still has to hold up in court.
  • Yup, Kyocera Echo.  Actually a good concept, ultimately doomed by the immature OS at the time.
  • Oh you can be absolutely sure they WILL sell the displays to whomever wants to buy them. Remember that those divisions AREN'T the same as the mobile division. Samsung produces the chips for the iPhone for Christ's sake and iPhones are a bigger threat to the Galaxy than any Windows Phone ever was or ever will be. If LG and Samsung can make money selling these displays to Microsoft, they will make the money.
  • Yeah, I see articles that Microsoft is in line for LG displays. I would expect LG would want to debut this technology on their V30 or whatever. I guess they would still be competing with Samsung and it probably wouldn't be unique. Same issue Microsoft is going to run into. Samsung and Apple will release the same form factor and have software ready to go. Microsoft won't.
  • Looks cool. Would be good if they can slim it down some more
  • Yes. Fingers crossed. Surface Page. Pager as in communication device. Unfolded into a page to take notes and stuff. Full windows 10 on ARM with tailored shells for mobile, tablet form factor and PC continuum. Complete with built in kickstand, slide out integrated digital pen and keypad/touchpad accessories built in. Pocket-able in folded compact form. Ultimate all in one computer with telephony.
  • One problem tho that I've with this design is folds in a single plane (around a single axis) only. This hampers the phone's ability to unfold into a large screen device. Like the upper range of pocket sized 6 incher can only unfold into a 8-10 incher tablet with single or dual hinge design in a single plane. But with folds in two planes (around two axis), a 6 incher will be able to unfold itself into a 12 incher which falls into a traditional display size for laptops. I for one would prefer a 6-12 inches combo design for such a device complete with above mentioned technology. Hoping to see it materialized soon.
  • MS has had this concept for a while...but with detachable...shown in their Future video. They also had this patent for hooking up two surface together. I thought this was the phone design for a while.  
  • If this is the Surface Phone .... I don't want it.
  • I hate how it looks like
  • How do you know how it looks like?
  • Did anyone watch WestWorld on HBO and see the phones/tablets they used? The ones that looked like tall & wide phones that flipped out into tablets? This is that. If Microsoft does make this, then I'm saving my pennies for this and the inevitable WestWorld host they'll possibly sell soon after.
  • The market world wide for something like this must be in the hundreds at least. The fate of WM has already been decided as consumers and developers have spoken. Nadella killed their phone business and it will never have a significant presence again.
  • All ideas developed inside a company are patented, regardless of the possibility of them ever coming out of the paper. This isn't the Surface Phone. There is no Surface Phone.
  • Said by "random guy on internet".
  • This random guy says: "It is a/the Surface device but it's not called a 'phone'."
  • In opposition to the opinion of another "random guy on the internet" ;)
  • I don't think it's a phone either as much as people want it to be.  Looks like a small tablet (Surface Pad/Note?) with phone-like-capabilities (assuming ARM chips are used). I don't know but I have a hard time finding a compelling reason to want a device like this.  People want a more compact/portable tablet?
  • i hope not, i want a traditional smart phone. i get the "we're tired of copying everyone and having a me too phone but satya everyone has a smartphone, and we're demanding a me too microsoft smart phone, not something crazy like a folding phone. what about cases, what about portability, what about cameras what about what about
  • seems WC will keep churning such articles to keep alive the legend of fabled Surface 'device'
  • Just like zdnet and thurrott and countless others?
  • This looks pretty awesome! Imagine having a phone that folds out to a tablet AND can be plugged into a monitor to act as a full PC!
  • Or just attach a keyboard to become a laptop like Surface Pro. Rollable screens are coming too.
  • Holy crap, that looks cool! I want!
  • With 16 million apps in the store making their way on mobile devices, I don't see this NOT working once full Windows arrives on ARM. Everyone outside the "Enterprise" uses PCs including students and millenials.
  • 16 million completely irrelevant apps from 1990s and 2000s. None of them are mainstream these days.
  • You're way off. There are tons of apps for desktop that I use every day like sling tv, zoom.us, go to webinar, and Mozilla Firefox that I would love on my Lumia.
  • I think the problem is that while they work, the mobile/touch experiences are pretty aweful.  Sure Photoshop may work on a 6" ARM device but why would you do it if the experience is horrible.
  • Sidekick?, Nintendo ds?
  • 🙏🏿
  • I bet Microsoft were technology advisors for HBO's Westworld, similar to what they did for Minority Report and other films.
  • Looks very promising. First in foldable display? A 6" phone that turns into a 12" tablet, that can power a desktop configuration. What more does one want?! I will buy it and get rid of all the rest if I can raise the money.
  • It would need to fold in both directions to go from 6 to 12 inches.
  • You can buy a iPhone that cost you $900-1000. Samsung galaxy on fire for $900 too .
  • I would totally use a foldable phone like this.
  • This may not end up bring that innovative and there is a possibility it could end up having competition before it's even released (assuming we don't get it this year): https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/12/samsung-and-lg-could-launch-foldable... Of course the advantage Microsoft could/will have is Windows on ARM/Continuum, and if the former comes to mobile & works on the go without needing to be plugged in, then there's a chance we could just run an Android emulator on our phones.
  • Lumia with the ARM CPU running Windows 10 64 bits in the future. check it out. https://youtu.be/ONI0zfEnBPU 10:00.
  • im open to a side kick type nintendo ds option as long as one side can be a traditional smartphone
  • Hint: Do you know Lumia and windows 10 compatible apps can run on Xbox one too. Soon Microsoft windows apps and games will be all-in-one. Buy one game, app allows 10 devices.
  • Yes! I like the way you think. Imagine if they release Surface. Phone on the same day of the same month (10 years later) as the original iPhone. Windows, *10* times the iPhone! And the 3 *revolutionary products*? 1. An ultra-portable mobile Windows PC (to borrow Jason Ward's characterization). 2. A multipurpose digital inking tablet. 3. The first true AR media device (other realities require companion accessories).
  • Nintendo? How about buy a Xbox "playanywhere" digital game and play on your pc too. What a deal$
  • IPhone is using Linux os.... Or ripped Linux os. Very limited. Windows 10 mobile is New technology. Windows 10 is a resolution, that's why it's free to convert Windows 7 and 8 for a limited time. Then there is raspberry pi 3 (a mini pc) with windows 10 core for $35.
  • No, its not the "surface" phone. I wish you guys would abandon this relentless play on people's emotions. This is worse than waiting for your tax refund in the mail. Its not a surface anything. Its a patient on an idea in case some android developer (Samsung) thinks they want to build with it. But this mouse clickable stuff needs to stop. We look like the National Enquirer with this stuff. 
  • Samsung already has this patented. So does LG, Apple and probably others.
  • They can't all patent the same thing.
  • I know I saw a Nokia patent on foldable devices which was granted like 15 years ago. I guess the specifics of the locking mechanism etc. are the point here.
  • Rasperry pi3 with Windows 10
    https://youtu.be/JPRUbGIyODY
    A robot https://youtu.be/_NEtQczfVgw
  • Raspberry pi3 Windows 10 built robot with halo lens!
    https://youtu.be/PEcoFiqUSyo
  • I'm gonna say at this is game changing. So you buy your surface phone it folds out into a Surface tablet. What is next to performance base for the surface pro?
  • Conclusion, windows 10 is small enough to build a Rasperry pi 3 than it can build a Windows 10 Surface phone. Btw, "Surface" is the pattern of Microsoft make devices like Surface pro(1st Surface created), surface dial, surface studio and Surface book... Soon Surface phone (if it is with Windows 10).
  • sweet, this is happening :) http://www.windowscentral.com/did-microsoft-tease-its-surface-phone-vision
  • Thoes are MS devices in Westworld..... ;) http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/11/09/what-do-designers-think-of-...  
  • What performance base for Surface phone? Windows 10 OS. As Windows 10 can run as tablet(similar to Windows 8) or desktop. I believe there might be plan to run for phone or desktop(may be tablet). There will be a thunderbolt port and fastest wireless communication with a special made thinnest Surface touch screen and keyboard without CPU and only 2 lb. Power will be last 12 hours. anyway, if you have watch the YouTube video, the CPU is powerful enough to run photoshop. My 2 years old pc can't even run it.
  • I seriously doubt it. Let's be logical about this: If the foldable screen is on the outside: - then you would have no room for a big camera on the back, unless the camera is on the inside and you need to open the book every time you want to take a picture, which is super silly. -You can't position the finger print reader and the frontal camera like you do in phones or everything will be on one half of the "tablet mode", and it would be even sillier on portrait. - it would be the most breakable phone in history, smashing your screen no matter how it falls. If the big screen is on the inside with a small screen on the outside for when it's closed: - You would need to set of frontal cameras, one for closed, one for open. - two sets of microphones - maybe to set of speakers. - And of course we are talking about a 5 inch screen and an 8 inch screen in the same device. So triple the screen and double the cameras+micrphones+speakers. How much would a device like this cost? like $1200??? And how much would the battery last in a device like this? 3 hours?    Maybe technology will get there someday but we won't see a product like this for the next 3 years to say the least.
  • Look at the patent file. The 3- pane version allows different folding, where you can have the screen exposed or not when in the phone mode. I doubt any new camera will need a bulge. More mp is not better, when a phone sensor is so small. Large files will take to long to process, something that doomed the 1020. Judging by how the Surface team made SP3, SB, and SS, I'm pretty confident of their engineering prowess. Hope MS doesn't kill the project.
  • There are two sets of patents and the three fold one would need one sets of everything and that is the one that is more detailed
  • Ye of little faith.  You don't think MS people are considering all the hurdles?  Of course if they release anything it will work and it will work well.  If they can't do that, then they won't release it.
  • I hooe that they don't limit themselves by following the Surface design elements, just because they can - it should only be done because it's the ideal style for a new form of functionality - a new 'form factor', as it's termed.  We've had the largely flat slabs of glass/tech as phones for too long and they're not specifically for me the likely most functional style to interact with my senses and mind.   Now that we have a range of flexible construction materials, it should allow the innovative product designers scope for production of much products that are much more amenable for use by people who are more mobile but don't want to cart around bulky objects everywhere that they go.   As Cortana develops, this would allow the core OS to become more interactive and supportive of users, who could potentially become more enabled by their technology, rather than restrained by it.  The recent trend towards more standalone apps, where Windows hasn't achieved growth from app developers, in the same way that other OS's have, presents an opportunity for MS, where they may be able to offer app developers significantly better interaction capabilities with their end customers.  We've seen a rapid take-up of Alexa, where that platform is limited in ways that Windows 10 wouldn't potentially have to be: but it would be Microsoft's call.   I'd like a mobile and home functionality experience and service offering that would be seamlessly connected that's based on Windows, rather than the competitors. That doesn't mean that everyone would, but more would if it the service was seamless, performed impeccably and augmented the increasing volumes of people who have lives that are stretched and somewhat complicated - but would benefit from some intelligent interactive support that surpasses what's out there and with a must-have kind of pull to it.
  • Apologies for my stuttered and slightly incoherent English - it's been a long day.
  • Pity there's no pic with the triple folding.
  • There is. Go to the link of the patent. Even has a description and why they made it. http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09541962&IDKey=771CF6DF450F...
  • did anyone else think Westworld foldable tablet? :-D 
  • I just went to Best Buy.... Impressive... A notebook is foldable 360°! Will future Surface phone the same. 5" becomes 10" tablet!
  • To bad pythagoras's will skrew with your math, 2*5"phone will only make a 7.2"tabblet... still could be nice!
  • Interesting
  • 41 megapixels with SD835 and apps. That is all.
  • Like the tablets they use in Westworld!
  • I doubt Surface Phone will even come out this year. 2018 I think, Windows 10 Mobile still poor to market without apps
  • Great, from what I understood this mobile device has phone call capability so that means carriers will be involved in distribution worldwide with the difference than previous Surface devices didn't had a SIM Card
  • THIS! take my money! but only if it has a magnetic side and surface pen integration and maybe an IR blaster
  • I don't think I've ever seen anyone believe so vehemently in a piece of vaporware than you lot in the comments believe this damn Surface Phone is gonna exist....
  • I dunno. NEVER underestimate the Surface division. None of us knew the Surface Book exisited so I think there is a reasonable chance that this is at prototype stage
  • Agreed. Not even Microsoft has said anything about a phone named "surface" but for some reason, maybe just a lot of wishful thinking, this surface phone is now a thing.  All I know is if MS ever gets serious about the smart phone market in the way they jumped on gaming and computer hardware, the phone, whatever its name won't be anything close to what we've seen MS do for phones in the past.  The CEO won't sign off on it if it ain't TOP SHELF.
     
  • This is making me remind the "future vision productivity" video made by microsoft some years before...
  • Westworld!!!
  • Fig 14 shows the 3-pane tablet mode attached to a docking periphery, likely a keyboard. Fig 15, shows a two pane tablet in the closed position like a book, but has a third screen on the front. This looks like one of those device on those MS productivity future videos, see 1:19 mark of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-tFdreZB94
    Fig 16 shows the kickstand mode for both the 2-pane and 3-pane tablets. Fig 12 and 13 shows a sliding mechanism to lock the device in the tablet mode, which is different from Fig 6, which is more like magnetic lock or something. I wonder which one will make it to the final product.
  • Everything Surface are brilliance itself. MS has upped the bar quite high when it comes to Surface line. Therefore a Surface phone at the very least, as a minimum requirement should be jaw dropper, literally. It must give goosebumps.
  • Foldable Screen Device!
  • I don't want a foldable screen device. I want a phone.
  • Same with me, this would be thick and crazy expensive. We need smarphones with Windows! It's insane that they just stopped to offer anything in that matter.
  • A pocket device with flexiblity would be something I would take interest in after some study...
  • If this will be the Surface Phone, expect it to release somewhere in 2065. I will buy it when the SP eventually sees the light of day (if ever) until then, I will use Android as my mobile device.
  • As always look to the vision video's. In this case the 2min marker. Also there is Windows Goodbye in action just before.
  • I think I start to see where the Surface Phone is going: It won't be a phone that can act like a PC, it will be a PC that can act like a phone: Docked: it's a full blown desktop PC Undocked, unfolded: it a tablet Undocked, folded: it's a phone (and you can continue working acactly the way you left you're desk when docking or unfulding again).   More or less what Ninetendo is doing with th Switch. In that case the Surface Phone won't probable be called Surface Phone but something like Surface Go, Surface Flex,  Surface Pocket... I have to say that my Surface Pro did replace my laptop and tablet (just as advertised). I'm not really convinced though that I would like to walk around with a 3 in 1 product in favor of the combination Surface Pro + a seperate phone.
  • @Hergen you got it, it will not be a phone! It will be a PC that has telephony. That's why I've been referring to it as an ultramobile Surface. Glad you see the vision😉! http://m.windowscentral.com/smartphones-are-dead-part-ii-evolve-or-die-m... https://doc.co/8H4g8Y
  • What the Surface Pro tablets need are 4G lLTE
  • I like the Surface Pocket, it sounds catchy.
  • I don't know what I thought when I heard about the "refigerator fridge", but when I explain how my Surface works (eg. to an iSheep), I have to show the device before they get it. It's simply beyond their imagination. Here, I don't know what to expect either, a least no more than the picture you draw. But if it is what I think that it is
  • Could be interesting. I hope they do something with the patent and don't let it collect dust.
  • That would be amazing. Folded it's a windows phone. Open it up and its a 10~12 inch tablet/PC with LTE. Count me in!
  • New name: The Surface Courier. :) I'd buy one.
  • New name: Surface Fold. I wouldn't buy one!
  • FOLKS it's kind of strange but when people try to quize Microsoft execs about Windows smart phones they say Microsoft has to make a Windows smartphone that is extraordinary to what is already in the market place. Hmm it seeems to me that Microsoft is going to make a 6 inch dual screen smartphone that can  run Desktop PC programs in "Continuum" mode with the help of the new x86 Emulation software they debut at Winheck not too long ago. That will help Windows smart phones sales for sure. I know some Windows smart phone fans have wanted this for a long time 
  • I've looked into this a lot but I spectulate that if this will be sucessful it will only be the business market. In this consumer market side, I just can't see consumers buying docking stations for continum or using windows x86 browser vs a simple app equivalent on another phone. It seems there is a very small market for consumers using contiuum. It seems also that most peoeple would want to keep their phones seperate from a PC, and just utlize the phone more as a quick go to device via apps to find to take action. That being said. I have high hopes for Microsoft, it seems they are building great products now these days, but I just can't see this being a good solution for consumers.   ~Cheers!
  • I'll pass.  A stupid idea.  Microsoft needs to remember that silly acronym - KISS.  Keep it simple stupid.   This is some sort of perverted all-in-one device that won't be good at anything.  Like a Surface Pro.  A lousy tablet and a mediocre laptop.   It also reminds me of all that effort they put into that "McLaren" phone.  With all of its stupid air gestures.  What a waste of resources.  
  • You sound fun.
  • THERE are a lot of folks who do not think like you do. so many in fact that Microsoft has a BILLION DOLLAR business selling Surface tablets and their accessories. I have awlays considerd the the Surface Tablet as the best Tablet/Portable Computer ever mad But Microsoft considers it in the class of Tablet/Laptop Computer. Like Microsoft or not they are working on different ideas for People who do not think like you do 
  • From all of us here, we wish you a Very Happy 1982.
  • The first car, bike, condom, computer etc may have come from silly/stupid/"not worth it" ideas. Give it time. It is just a dssign on paper! McLaren was Nokia`s idea by the way, way better than the stupid Samsung and Apple technologies
  • Believe it when I see it....
  • Hate to admit it, but we recently dropped WP for the Pixel and I can't imagine going back. I always said I was fine witht he apps on WP - but now I am greedy. I just want to have my apps for work and play. Plus, the phone is amazing and I have the app to make it look like WP. I still miss many features, but I can't imagine going back if they can't magically fix the damn marketplace. 
  • This is definitely a PC acting as a phone and not the other way around.  If destroys Steve Job's claim that we are now Post-PC.  Unless, of course, Steve meant Pancreatic Cancer - in which case he retains his "visionary" status.
  • Destroys what - this is a patent not a product. Maybe it will one day become a product - maybe it won't. Microsoft like many companies files tons of patents that never become products.
  • Upside: You could go from a decent size phone to a 3:2 or 3:4 tablet.
    Downside: Protecting the screen
  • I think they will call it Surface Mobile. Or the Surface Mini on arm and at 8 inches a Surface mobile pro on intel. Or something like that though I do like Surface pocket. Of course it could just be Surface 4 too. But the bigger question is can a full Surface pro now have these features and double as a studio when docked to a base....and will the phone get pro style keyboards....and a performance base too? Or imagine u buy a Surface pro and attach a performance base for dual graphics and cpu capability.....surface used to have multiple keyboard options...type, original cover, power, pro 3 and 4 and fingerprint cover even a dj cover so how about a base that we call the book cover. And when u are using it it's a pro book. Lol. I wish. Any way Windows makes the possibilities endless.
  • For the record I get the clipboard detaches from the book. But that is not a pro. So why not sell clipboards powered by arm. Pros powered by intel. Different covers and different book covers (performance or regular base) and let us build Surface as we choose our options. Same for phone. Different sizes,covers and a base. Then name them...like this:
    Surface Pocket
    Surface Note (clipboard or arm Surface)
    Surface pro And then type cover, power cover, book cover, and dock.
  • I know for sure I would buy a pocket with power and type covers and a pro with both book cover and type cover for me and a Surface note with power cover for my wife. My wife and kids would also have smaller pockets with the kids having book covers for those. $$$$