WhartonBrooks gives us a peek at Cerulean Windows phones!
Connecticut-based Windows phone OEM finally gives the world a subtle peek at Cerulean phones!

In the popular film Jerry Maguire, the main character famously shouted, "Show me the money!" As I have taken the opportunity to chronicle the unique story of WhartonBrooks, the only phone OEM making Windows phones for the Windows fans, many fans have shouted "Show me the phone!" I have asserted over the course of this journey that that reveal would come when we reached that stage in the journey. That time is now. CEO Greg Murphy provided me with the following image to share with the fans!
Here is your first peek.
For the last couple of months WhartonBrooks has been relatively silent. Per Murphy the company was advised by Microsoft to communicate "hard facts only." I exclusively reported an "experiment" Murphy is conducting where he supplied skeptical fans with more detailed information in an attempt to win more support:
So, let's do an experiment. We are so concerned about false information that we have been silent for some time. We had several podcasts recorded, but the details changed so we did not release them. This happened several times with press releases and tweets that we planned. So here is the latest. The latest sample will be shipped this Saturday. We should receive it in 7-10 days from China. I will run a test with SIMs from several US carriers. If they work - there will be a lot to talk about. Otherwise, we will press on. The experiment is whether this small bit of information will bite us or provides a chance for people to join in the story. It's been my position to have people join in the story, but we are a team at WhartonBrooks. After the details started to change, the position we took, with advice from MS, was to communicate hard facts only. Let's see how this goes and perhaps we can provide more information going forward. -Greg
Now, in a late night tweet, Murphy has given us a peek at the company's Cerulean phones with the tease, "Should we name them?"
What do fans think?
The final samples are on their way from Shenzhen. Fingers crossed that they are ready for the testing labs. Should we name them? pic.twitter.com/wyNOK8JnqZThe final samples are on their way from Shenzhen. Fingers crossed that they are ready for the testing labs. Should we name them? pic.twitter.com/wyNOK8JnqZ— Cerulean Mobile (@ceruleanmobile) January 22, 2017January 22, 2017
Stay tuned to Windows Central for your WhartonBrooks updates, as we'll have the latest on this unique story of the only Windows phone company founded by a fan, for the fans!
Follow the journey:
- WhartonBrooks Part I: How a Windows phone fan started making Window phones
- WhartonBrooks Part II: Exclusive Interview with CEO Greg Murphy
- WhartonBrooks: Read the raw Q & A between Jason Ward and Greg Murphy and join the forum discussion!
- WhartonBrooks Part III: Can Cerulean be the next Lumia
- WhartonBrooks faces delays as a result of factory delays
- WhartonBrooks Part IV: Building the team, company, phone and expectations
- WhartonBrooks CEO Greg Murphy is conducting and experiment
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Fantastic!
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Thanks for reading folks! Stay tuned to Windows Central for your latest updates to this unique story. It looks like the WhartonBrooks journey is on a solid course to bringing a Windows phone to the fans. Of course there are still hurdles to cross, but progress is being made. Finally, as the old saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. Hopefully this image helps to assuage at least some of the criticism skeptics have. As the most recent piece in this story provided, Murphy is attempting to connect with the fan base by offering more information. Do his latest efforts at transparency help? And what do you think of what you can see of the phones? Well you know the drill LET'S TALK!!!
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Well done Jason. The hyper skeptics appear to be wrong, which is good news for the rest of us.
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I think the main scepticism is more that these will be rebadged phones that are already dated at release, being in the UK and already having a Lumia 950 I'm not really every going to buy one of these, but I hope they do well and are able to make more phones in the future.
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I think that at version 1.0 it doesn't really matter what these phones are.... this first phone is a learning process... Heck, the Samsung Galaxy S1 was a piece of shiznit, and at 4.3" was criticized for being "too big"..... It wasn't until version 3 those devices really took off..... Same might be the case here,,, and also might not be the case. We have to wait for more details...... But, the prospect of a V2, or 3 WB device sounds tasty to me............... Especially if WB tries to match an alleged Surface Phone.
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Appears to be over 5.5".. Looks like at least 5.7".
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I sure hope not. :(
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Let's hope for 2 sizes...
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What it looks like is a Nexus 6P sans speaker grills.
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How can you see this??
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I'm sorry, the hyper skeptics aren't wrong. Really, the "peek" is not a peek, Jason, you've got to be kidding, I mean they're covered in bubble wrap LOL. Any number of Chinese ODM devices could have been wrapped and presented in this manner, what is Greg hiding that he feels the need to present a picture that is all but worthless in terms of the market being able to assess viability. Geez, these guys don't even know how to do a proper "leak"/sneak peek, what a joke.
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OMFG. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!! I can't believe what you've allowed us to see. Unreal. Never seen anything like these before. Black slabs. Who would of thought! Brilliant. These will absolutley change the wireless world. I'm so excited I cannot wait to drop hundreds of dollars on these special looking black slabs.
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Stop..... Nobody owes you anything... Your pretentiousness is doing more harm than good... We must be encouraging in order to keep transparency, well,,,, transparent!... Lol. Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
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The sneak peak is actually the bubble wrap. They are marketing a new bubble wrap to protect all phones.
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Did you read the last article he wrote about them? This is part of Greg Murphy's quote: "We are so concerned about false information that we have been silent for some time. We had several podcasts recorded, but the details changed so we did not release them. This happened several times with press releases and tweets that we planned. So here is the latest. The latest sample will be shipped this Saturday. We should receive it in 7-10 days from China. I will run a test with SIMs from several US carriers. If they work - there will be a lot to talk about. Otherwise, we will press on." While I understand about a bubble wrap picture not really being a leak per se, it does at least show that there are actual devices being tested. Furthermore, where they are in the process of everything what would be the point in actually leaking something that they don't know yet is the final product?
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eryker, I think it's way off-base to say this peak is aimed at allowing the market to assess viability. I've seen startups go through excruciatingly long delays. Believe me, Greg Murphy is just ecstatic to finally get test devices in house and let everyone know about this important and concrete milestone.
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eryker, I think it's way off-base to see this peak as aimed at allowing the market or anyone to assess viability. I've seen startups go through excruciatingly long delays. Believe me, Greg Murphy is just ecstatic to finally get test devices in house and let everyone know about this important and concrete milestone.
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So because an item is wrapped in bubble wrap it doesn't exist? The government should start using bubble wrap as a cloaking mechanism.
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Jason, can someone confirm/deny if they at least are shooting for a Verizon release? Due to my geography, Verizon is my only viable option. If new devices don't show up soon, I have no choice but to change to another platform.
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Possibly! https://twitter.com/ceruleanmobile/status/794589665215004677
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Needs band 13 on CDMA LTE for Verizon. Just 2 and 4 won't cut it. This is disappointing.
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Yes, please include Verizon. Unfortunately, from the link @MAUXIIS provided, it looks like it can't. As @buzzard75 said, Verizon needs LTE band 13.
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Jason, tell them, simple names please. I'm begging, cuz I've seen some pretty dumb and complicated names from manufacturers. Lol
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I'm excited and cautiously optimistic.
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We have phones! Can't kill us!
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Metal like borders. Yes!
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That makes it look like 650. 😀
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At least 650 look isn't that bad, especially if its really a aluminium sides or unibody, we can't tell in the photo. As look as it actually looks sleek and elegant, as long as it won't be bland looking it's all good. I hope this is going to be really good one!
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650 looks amazing. My friend who has a S7 edge was ready to trade his S7 for my 650 (of course jokingly) because of the looks and the AMOLED display. I was looking at my 650 from a similar angle just to compare. The metal part of that phone looks a little thicker than the 650's. Anyway let's hope it not only looks good but also has everything we want.
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I like the look of the 650, my dad has one, i have the 950, if the 650 could do everything the 950 can (camera, processor ram sensors etc) i'd choose the 650 any day, and I love my 950 even with its flaws, still love my 1520 (RIP) if only the screen hadn't died. Looking forward to see what Cerulean bring to the table!
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Or could be plastic with metallic coating.
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I hope they get some good deals with local carriers.
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"Carrier Exclusives"? No way, that's never worked before and doomed for failure from the off.
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It works were I live. You sign a contract and they give you a phone for free if you are paying monthly with a CC or bank account. My phone is contract free but I'm one of a few.
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They did say the last delay was to add more bands. After all it's good for them to release everywhere, at least to all US carriers for starters. Finger crossed we see it at MWC
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And also sell it online unlocked at Lazada or something.
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So... They look like phones.
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I know right, I don't know what I was expecting. Space ship maybe ???
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I was expecting more than a black slab in a bit of bubble wra. .
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Well... That "black slab in a bit of bubble wra" is my next hope, since in my country the beast WP available is the one I'm using, a lumia 930...
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Haven't you heard the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket?"
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Well, let me say it again. There is no current "flagship" smartphone here. I have one egg, and no basket, gotta put it somewhere right? Lol
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Hehe, point taken.
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But don't take me wrong, I'm also a bit skeptical about those things... Its just that when you're a WP fan you have 2 choices, be optimistic, or go home
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I hear you, mate.
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Huawei Mate is a line of nice products. Oh wait...
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The 930 even though its now very old is still a pretty decent phone overall, I had one when my 950 was in for repairs then passed it down to my mum to replace her 920 that needed a new charging circuit.
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Not saying that it is bad, it is really good, bad side is that it doesn't have continuum... I love my 930, but i admit that its "glory days" are over
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Loved the 930 until the current slow ring release (14965.1001), which's been running for way too long. Nightmare with random restarts, obnoxious wifi drop outs and more...
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I'm still using my Lumia 920, as second phone. Slow but works.
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Why were you expecting more? You knew this was coming? What was promised to you?
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Rodney, well it was promised that this phone would be ground breaking and a game changer
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It was.... But, we don't even know what it is yet.. Lol
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Exactly like all iterations of Samsung Galaxy and Iphones look like phones. You are very observant. Thumbs up for you.
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Yeah, and I care just as little about the outside of them too. I care about the internals, but we don't get that information just yet.
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I agree with you about outward appearances. I have never seen another phone that made me envious. In fact, I seldom pay attention to another persons phone at all.
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So when is a phone not a phone? Seriously, you people....
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Have to give the CEO props, progress is being made. Thanks for the update Jason!
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Verizon? I'm not sure how they differentiate otherwise.
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Unfortunately, based on https://twitter.com/ceruleanmobile/status/794589665215004677, looks like they don't include LTE Band 13, which is at least one of the critical bands Verizon needs that is not used by AT&T. If Greg Murphy sees this, Greg, can you try to get band 13 so we have a shot at it working on Verizon? If it's a decent phone and not a step down from my Lumia Icon, I'd buy a few for my family just to support your guys, but we only get reception on Verizon here.
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If it's for fans who shout yay 👏 at every random launch then buy android or ios then it's fine..if it for fans who are fans who love to have low end bad looking device then it's fine.. If it for fans who love Lumia designs and hate L950xl still bought & using Lumia 950xl because there isn't any good looking windows mobile for them this looks like dogshit.. Only saving grace will be to price high end to very very low and release in india/china/uk/japan.
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What does that all mean?
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Dunno, but let's hope it he meant good
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Lol.. funny stuff. Best comment, on your part.
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Yeah.what does that mean?
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That means it isn't for fans who love Nokia Lumia designs, it isn't for fans who love windows but ended up buying ios or android.. It may be for those who love windows but prefer to buy only low end..in short design looks bad, camera will be obviously bad may compete with likes of Chinese android oems Xiaomi etc, if they want to success they must price it lower than Chinese oems android with high spec..ya I don't like design it looks like L950xl with 3rd party Chinese back cover(which I'm using now).
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Dude... I know that you may not like the design (I really liked the 720...), but admit, that's a nice looking phone for a first glance, you may compare it to the 930, 830 (the difference is just that the Cerulean doesn't have such a sharp edge), if you take a closer look, it could even be compared to the 520, just thinner and with a metal frame... Besides, I know everyone is looking forward to see how this phone turns out, but keep in mind, I'm pretty sure that the purpose of this post (both on twitter and here) isn't to show the phone's design, it is to show that progress is being made, that they didn't forget about us, mere mortals. About it being a low end device... I know that flagships are the ones the get more attention, but given the WP history, low end has always sold more. This is their very first mobile phone, I would expect them to go with a design similar to some high end Samsungs and make a middle end phone, they need to prove to investors that they can make money, so they can get more money to make the goodies. And don't forget that the Frankenstein's monster is still around, if you don't like the cerulean, you can always try with HP's... Hope I helped... And also that I didn't disturbe the peace among the designs hardcore fans that are probably going to crucify me for saying that it looks like some old lumias...
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Well written post. Thanks!
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Seriously, you could see the design through all that bubble wrap? I am intrigued by your third eye. Tell me more. What processor, ram, expandable memory,size of camera, dual sim or not? They are a start up company, give them a F'ing break. Be glad they are trying to appease back people who like windows mobile. I would be buying one to support them even if it is priced high, hoping it will be coming to land down under.
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^right!
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They also said Brazil, please don't forget us! Lol
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I could give a crap less about how my phone looks ( I case it up anyway), I care about how it works. Performance to me is superior to a pretty device that will break the moment I barely drop it.
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I couldn't agree more, performance is superior.
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So, single SIM?
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I'm sure it would be dual, a single it kinda step backwards. Unless this is some cheap bargin model with a better one yet to come.
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ROFLMAO... What the heck is this ???? Mr BlurryCam is better than Mr BubblesbagCam To me those are Samsung Galaxy S7 device ROFLMAO!
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You need to get out more if that comment of yours makes you laugh that hard ;)
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The joke being..?
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He he.Been reading through the contributions in comments and laughing my heart out.Oh,Windows fan zone is awesome.But about the slab,keeping my fingers crossed.
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Hope they test well, and we can finally hear about some specs.
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Those look pretty good even though they're still in bubblewrap.
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Off the topic.The store is acting funny after the latest insider build 15014,Does anyone have the same issue?L950
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Yea downloads don't start until I restart the phone. But please check forums, they might actually have answers
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Also, leave feedback at the hub
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Nice :)
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Looks promising. ... something for the wp fans is better than nothing. I wish wharton brooks the greatest of successes!
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Too late... :-(
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If it works great in every aspect than L950 then I will surely buy this 😋
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Expecting this phone to be greater than L950 is a tall order.All I want them to do is to reduce the bezel before releasing into the market.
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Reducing the bezel, from what?
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I looked more closely now.The bezel is ok.
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Bezel? What bezel?
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It has to be better than the 950. Otherwise what is the point of this?
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My lumia 950 battery performance is horrible. Any other phone with a FHD screen is an upgrade for me from that...
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Pls bring those in Europe!!!
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They should set up a website to sell internationally with fast delivery and not tied to and damn network.
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Problem is, 90% of phones are sold through networks, either directly or via a third party. Luckily in the UK now though, most carriers sell their phones unlocked.
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I would expect all of their phones to be international radio devices. It would be a waste of time to build otherwise.
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I guess my expectation of any new windows phone, whether released by Microsoft, HP or WhartonBrooks, would be a bleeding edge folding screen 3-in-1 device. I just can't see the point of releasing another black rectangle. It won't have any defining features that set it apart. Ten out ten for effort but I can't see a market for it. I love w10m. Please let me be wrong.
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Don't worry you'll have your turn. Me, I need an update from my L930 that is not a 950/xl, nor the expensive x3. That's why I really look forward to this release. Win10mobile is a whole other discussion though...
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It's good to see progress finally being made. It can't be easy creating or launching any new smartphone in the current market, let alone a Windoes one that nearly 99% don't want. I really hope this gets released. It would be nice to see it available here in Thailand too.
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There probably is a market to sell a few million of these if they are good. Strategically this could be really important in terms of raw numbers of phones out there, unless MS pull the plug on the Mobile OS and just go for complete or almost complete windows.
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Less than 1% market share in sales does NOT = "99% don't want a it". Many potential buyers know little or nothing about Windows phone or can't get one in the country, carrier or model of their choice.
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Popping the bubble wraps is so much saisfying while some one is having this joy, take another photo of the phone ;)
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This looks amazing given it is in bubble wrap, looking forward to seeing how this goes. Please release this in Australia!!!
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Yeah, hopefully somebody bless us more Windows phones here in Australia. Hopefully the cost would be really affordable to the point of good replacement with old Lumia phones on shopping centers and carriers that are mostly dominated by Android of course.
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Pls bring this phone to india also,there thousands of windows phone fans here u can see for yourself that windows phone devices are in huge demand and x50 series lumia are out of stock and third party windows devices are also out of stock pls release this mobile in india
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"What do fans think?" Seriously? Think about what? It's a black slab that could be literally any phone, wrapped in bubble wrap (and what kind of manuifacturer uses bubble wrap?). This WhartonBrooks circlejerk super hype is getting a little pathetic. Windows Central is the only site I've seen that keeps posting these no-new-info "articles". Really, how much are they paying you guys to write these?
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Windows central is for Windows fans
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Thank you.
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Granted. Still does not explain why a twit about a photo about.... nothing, really - a black slab that can be literally any phone - deserves an article, particularly when such article is meant to "prove" that the much spoken about phone does indeed exists and that it is worth the hype. The photo is worthless as evidence of the former, let alone the latter. But hey, watch my comment being down voted for stating the obvious in 3, 2, 1....
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It looks like it is this phone as rumored. https://mspoweruser.com/coship-moly-pcphone-w6-to-be-a-continuum-capable...
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They could have sold a bunch even if its a rebadged phone but Jason seems to hv raised the expectations too much.
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How many times will you make this baseless claim?
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Look at them, from what we can see they are identical and it matches rumors from before. You really think they are capable of designing and manufacturing their own phones? No way, it is definitely going to be a rebadge.
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Identical? the phone you posted a link of is white. I'm not sure you understand what identical means.
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Are you serious?! The color! lol
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Well considering all you can see from the photo is a black phone with grey/silver edges, yes, te color is all you've got to go on. You can't tell if there are any physical buttons anywhere, you can't tell where the speakers and mic are, you can't even tell what size it is. This literally looks more like a Galaxy S7 than it does the phone you posted.
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https://mspoweruser.com/whartonbrookss-offers-a-peek-of-their-windows-10... There is the article. They claim the cutouts and button placement are identical. You can also see the edges and color are also very similar to the black one. It was already rumored to be a rebadged PCPhone. This isn't a crazy claim to make.
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Actually, the phones in the tweet have 2 cutouts in the cardboard if you look closely at the right side of the left picture, the phones that MSPU (who are certainly not a good source of information BTW), and the PCPhone has only one set of buttons on the right side. So if we're automatically assuming that cut outs in the cardboard are for buttons (not a stretch to think that, I will give anyone that) It looks like the phone in the tweet has a button in an extra place, though I can't see any buttons on the left hand side. Try thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating something you read without doing any kind of research (especially when all you gotta do is look closely at a photo)
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Maybe like was they did with Alcatal. No just badging change, but some different specs too. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken so long. Too early to tell. All speculation and guesses. Will judge the product if it does make it to retail.
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Good news! Now we know they have a screen!!! What a relief...
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The joke being that we are eager to have more choices,but the platform is cagey with Windows Phone news.Releasing information piecemeal.
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Please WhartonBrooks, bring to Brazil!
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😒 i see nothing
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It sadly shows the state of Windows Phone when Windows Central use exactly the same photo which shows pretty much nothing three times in one article..
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Something is better then nothing
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I can understand why they held back publishing earlier podcasts when circumstances changed. It was the right thing to do. It's encouraging to see the phones are nearly ready for prime time. I like its size. Looks pretty good. Thanks for showing a glimpse Jason!
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Oh you big tease Greg. I bet the next photo will be of just the pulled down over the shoulder.
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I actually did LOL..
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Hahaha :D
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I love the design!!
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I count 11 bubbles long by 6 wide, but I don't have any bubble wrap lying about to measure for comparison. Anyone?
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Does it look like iphone 6? 🤔
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Pls windows phone fans and loyalist pls be patient,in the smartphone world where no one is building windows devices we need every oem we can get,we can at least be happy that someone is building a device for this community,pls guyz just be patient
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Seriously, who cares? It's a phone. It looks like any number of other phones already on the market. What are the internals? RAM, internal storage, SoC, camera, fingerprint reader, continuum, double SIM, worldwide band compatibility, sd card slot, USB-c etc.. Those are the important bits.. Unfortunately, I think this may all be a little too late. Many people have already left the platform, more are leaving, Microsoft squandered double digit market share in large parts of Europe and even there the market is now non existent. People (well, companies) are finally starting to call them out on it though, no longer is the reason apps are being pulled just due to lack of usage or interest, but a clear narrative that Microsoft has abandoned ship a long time ago.
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I sadly agree, but I'm still going to hang in here a bit longer. Going on 14 years of using only WM now...
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Sadly you make a good point, what's left of windows mobile is for the fans as msft own ppl don't even use the phones. I'm going to hang in til further notice
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Really want these to be great. let's hope they do not disappoint. And also lets hope they are marketed internationally.
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Not much meed for marketing, when the customers are die hard Windows "Phone" fans anyway.
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I see we have upgraded from Vaporware to Bubblewrapware. =P
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Not really.
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Thanks for posting this. I love this story unfolding. Hope it's a great phone. Good luck WB
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Now this is a good start. You prime the interest with a picture. Let someone else spread the message, this way you don't directly have to answer any questions but there is a conversation. You set a time goal for another bit of bird seed (one week). Keep it up I love a mystery.
My face gets flushed, my palms get sweaty and my attention peaks.
Here is the info I need to keep me in the game, specs (speculation leads to disappointment), ballpark price ( I need a goal to set), and E.T.A., (I need to know how long I have if I choose be be the first). Who am I kidding it's a Windows Phone, I'll be the first in my time zone. -
There is a bird on the logo. More seeds coming soon.
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The fat guy will save Windows phones! LOL
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At least he is doing something and not giving lip service.
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You are giving lip service to Jason and his fake series of articles. LOL
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Chill and move on. Also, grow up. Also, why do you even bother?
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Oh I see that you are very grown up. Why do you?
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I really wish I could stick with Windows 10 Mobile but it just doesn't work for me anymore.
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I'm still confused about the experiment. Is it simply to test the device with a SIM? If so, that's not the type of details that should be released to potential customers. "Let's hope this thing works when we turn it on. The thing that was supposed to be available to consumers in January." My fingers are skeptically crossed.
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Yes that was the experiment. To go against what they were advised ( communicating hard facts) and informing us that things are still moving forward, albeit slower than expected. Don't be such a scrooge.
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I hope it works out. Just providing constructive criticism.
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Name them something as long and ridiculous as your company name? :)
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Like Sunstroming?
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Please not! WhartonBrooks sounds pretty lame, and I hope they don't put THAT on the shell.
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Only way I'd buy another win phone is if it had a 820 minimal in it and Ms says you would be able to use it with win 10 arm thro continuum. As of now it seems surface phone or bust.
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Remember these are SAMPLES. They won't necessarily be packaged that way. From what I can gather they seem to be aiming staright for the hole in the windows phones market that was left by Nokia/lumia/Microsoft. So try to imagine to yourselves that these are the Lumia 660 and 960 (or perhaps the 660XL) Yes it's probably not going to be groundbreaking but it's new devices to keep people going on windows for now at least, who knows where they will go with future models. The first iPhone was pretty crap compared the the third and fourth ones.
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I don't get it. If it's not ground breaking, what's the hype all about? There are already mid to mid-high Windows phones in the market already, so assuming for a moment that this phone does exist and does make it to market, and ignoring the obvious fact that the major issues with W10M aren't even hardware related, what exactly is all the fuss about? Genuine question.
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In other words -- wait until next year... Where have I heard that before?
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Geez guys, relax. It's called a tease for a reason. They weren't announcing the phones to the world. It was a peek. How many times do companies put out a piece of marketing that shows a corner of a phone in shadows with a black background. So it wasn't a professionally mocked up tease..whatever. You guys are either spoiled or super pessimistic. Wow.
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I suppose the difference is that those companies have credibility based on a good track record of consistently delivering real products to the market. A company lacking that credibility based on an history of successful products should be concentrating on that (credibility) first - showing ACTUAL photos of the product, a list of specs, talking about the manufacturing capabilities, the distribution channels, the partnerships, the investors' behind the venture, etc, etc so that other media and bloggers (apart from sycophant Jason) would pick the news up and spread it - you know, exactly the opposite of what these guys are doing. If Samsung did a teaser on a Windows phone, everyone would be talking about it. Have you seen anyone else pick up this "teaser" ( it doesn't even deserve the word teaser - nothing was teased! I could have taken very similar pictures, and I assure you I'm not making a new Windows phone).
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Is it weird that I want a case for my phone made outta bubble wrap now? Like, the screen is seeable, but the rest... Bubble wrap? Feel like that should be weird.
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I love all these comments from people who think they know better. If you are a fan of this platform then shouldn't we wish him well? The odds are against him yes, but he cares enough to try to make something happen. That is an optimist and those are the kind of people who have hopes and aspirations against all odds. All the best and well wishes to this man and his new company !
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Best comment on this section 👍
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Yes, best comment on this article.
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WOW, those pictures are pretty much worthless. Why even show them ?
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Kinda reminds me of the Lumia 650.
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It would be a good thing if it was like a 650. Nice design, thin, easy to hold, looks marvelous.
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ohm... then just buy a regular 650 for 100usd??! no need for one more copy&paste
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That thing got some mile age. I'd happily take an upgrade.
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Maybe up grade the specs for the geeks
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Assuming they are good phones, I'll support them all I can. I just don't understand the vague wording about what exactly went wrong in the past, how were fans to blame, or the press, or something else? .... I feel left thinking about that mystery, when I should be left thinking more about these phones. And finally, what are we asked to do to help with this experiment (or not do)?
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I'm just tired of everything thing made in China.
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So get rid of all electronics and most of everything else. I hope you like walking around without shoes or clothes.
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coz phones are now affordable???
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No, but a lot of great techs are made there. They have the infrastructure. Apple even said how fast they can retool and make the stuff they want. China is the world's manufacturer. We get the goods, while they suffer the pollution. Capitalism at its best.
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Cheap labor makes goods affordable. It's always been that way.
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Pollution and a whole new generation of rich people.
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Largest middle class ever created in such a short time. Industrial revolution on steroids. Despite the problems, still beats having millions in poverty.
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That is the disturbing part.
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Yes, they have to be careful with China manufacturers
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Super excited!!! #CANADA! I love the w10m OS and have since the lumia 1020. (INSANE camera - i miss to death!) i have the lumia 950xl with another swap/extended warrenty left. I was a little sad to see that no lumia phones were in the MSFT store in toronto. I think these new devices would be a great continued addtion after the L650/L950. I think the surface phone may be similar to the surface studio in the sense that its a device not for everyone but adored by everyone. and if the foldable device rumor/patent is true. that would definitely be there enterprize market. As a consumer and a huge windows mobile fanboy, i just want similar phones to the L950xl PS i hope MSFT colaberated to bring them the carl zeiss lenses
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I am actually super excited about this! All that they need to show is quality, performance, and value. Definitely keeping an eye on this.
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What's wrong with the other Windows Phones on the market and why do you think this one will be any better?
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I wish WB the very best. The smartphone business is super tough but if their devices are quality and priced reasonably WB can be successful.
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How about «C1» for a name???
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So what's the deal with MS advice to communicate "hard facts" only? Why would they advise this?
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My theory is that it's not Win10ARM ready, and some folks would spread negativity just because of it.
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My theory is: Want W10m all the time, all the way!
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You could read the other articles prior or Email and ask Wharton Brooks, they might reply back on that..
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Actually, that's not bubble wrap. Those "balls" are probably clusters of pixels on a highly flexible screen that comes loosely wrapped around the processing hardware (the black box shown). So basically you can wrap the screen around your arm, unfold it on the table, or hang it stretched over your old monitor, while keeping the processing box separate (in your pocket or bag). Genius!
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I tell you... Windows "fans" are a (...let's go with) 'unique' group of people. There is more bashing, negative, emotional rants than productive conversation. Lol. Nevertheless... As usually, there is no pleasing most people. Showing this much of the process/product is beyond what most companies would ever even do. But... In typical fashion, it seems to mean nothing to most. Smh. Wharton Brooks has clearly stated that, "There's a fine line between public disclosure and upholding our NPAs, but we will tell you what we CAN to give you an inside view". I'm personally excited that someone has personally taken in interest in Windows 10 mobile and is doing their best to allow us to experience the ride/process. I'm EXCITED to see these sneak peaks/samples and I'm hoping that they are successful! There's a great possibility that they won't be able to start off offering everything they absolutely want to, but hopefully they offer enough to deliver a great product. I'm looking forward to Cerulean! A Windows phone by a Windows fan! I think it's an awesome combination.
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Dear Friend ,Thank you thank you thank you .. I just wrote the same thing ... Its the biggest turn off and they HIDE as they Throw Rocks!!
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Re: MAUXIIS,
Yes. Thank you for your comments. I also agree with you.
Re: Bjfcm,
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From a general high level...It is called bullying syndrome and unfortunately it will always be around.
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good luck with it all!
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How about the Windward Phone?
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Smart @zz wise cracking is so Tired.... Thats the only thing I hate about allowing comments....Please start being more positive About the Windows Mobile OS.. Every company has 'a FEEDBACK' Forum.... Please use it and let's have a more positive environment .. Some of you think its ' Cute" ... ' Witty ' or Cool".... You come across as Unhappy , Sad and Pathetic to most readers .. Being that Windows Mobile /Phone is a small community lets be more supportive of the products , Software and OEMs Etc that come our way!!!.
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Yes! Let's goooo!
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Well, at least they have a phone. I was starting to think it was vapor :). Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for these guys and will consider buying the phone. However, I hope they didn't jump in a year to late and six months too early...
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Interesting to see that there really is something there. The key details for me are however in the specs, hoping that Greg and his partners understand that releasing a lightly rewarmed Android phone 9 months down the line is doomed to fail. Fingers crossed that were looking at something that's both good value and of it's time.
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Seeing how this is going Greg will first only post the RAM and leave the storage for a week later.
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I hate how every phone has to look identical these days. I REALLY missed the bright-colored, square-edged Lumias...
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If your going to cover it up any way just buy a neon case. Same thing in my opinion.
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Looks like the 950 with a metallic band Mozo cover in bubble wrap.
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Just in time to run both apps on it! Courtesy of Nutella!
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Isn't that just the coship moly rebranded?...
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Pretty much but version has 617 so not the x1
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Looks like very little bezel, nice
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I'm surprised no one went for giving these two prototypes a name. How about Castor and Pollux? After all these twin sons of Zeus helped Jason and the Argonauts find the Golden Fleece among many other feats. :) BTW, note that this is the "latest sample" suggesting to me that Wharton Brooks is working hard to get it's first offering right even if it means additional delays.
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I could have produced similar photos, it doesn't mean I've made a phone
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Be careful of China manufacturers
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Lol. Like all Surface products, iPhone, iPads, etc. Be careful of the Trump ties you are wearing. It might catch fecal matter and urine.
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Glad these guys are taking time and trying to do it right.
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I'm in the same boat as OldMillXxX. It's all about geography with me as well.
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I for one am really looking forward to a phone from this company. I just grabbed a 950 for my wife to upgrade her 830. She tried an Android phone for a while and wanted to go back to a Windows phone; I am definitely going back to Windows Mobile after a year on Android. This is a Windows Mobile device from a professed fan, and it could be really interesting to see what they have up their sleeve.
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Great. Name them. WBW 1.0
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So testing consists of putting in several different SIM's and seeing if it works? Really? If this requirement is clearly defined in a product specification, that should not even be a question.... Looks like a branding operation of an existing handset, which needed some firmware adaptation to work with several carriers and unusual radio bands (..Verizon...?)
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Based on a tweet (unless their bands have changed since November) they aren't even going to be supporting the main CDMA LTE band (13) for Verizon.
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WOW! great news!!
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I feel sorry for WB, no doubt caught in a 419 scam. They must have been told they can be supplied some great windows phones and if they send some cash they will send some great phones... Beautiful phones. Personally I am done with windows phone now, thanks to MS pull support for it. I had rolled them out to my business and now I can even buy replacement handsets with O2 in the UK. Having to switch to android now. Jason, I have some new amazing windows phones for you but they are wrapped up in bubble wrap. Would you like me to send a picture?
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Have you ever heard of HP and the x3? Awesome business phone.
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Looks like some used s6 on ebay.
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I take my hat off to this guy in more ways than one. Guts, determinination, and a strong will to succeed. Great qualities. However, he can make a cutting edge phone machined to absolute perfection, all bells and whistles hand it to a consumer who hits the power on button and up comes windows 10..... It's dead! I sound so negative but it's the truth, Microsoft have ruined their own platform, consistently and relentlessly. If, and it will never happen, Wharton Brooke's could buy out windows 10 mobile, and quite literally tweak it, polish and most importantly, finish it, it's a winner. It's a terrific platform but I have moved away as it has no future in its current form.
I wish these guys the very best of luck but when they ring Microsofts door bell don't expect a welcome.
On my android phone I get the best of Microsoft apps, working as good as if not probably better and I have noticed incidently that very often their updates come to the Android and Apple platforms before their own!
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Oh boy will you come crawling back begging for forgiveness someday. Go into the arms of Android as we the Faithfull wait for Windows to come to ARM.
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Metal frame! Wonder what's under covers
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More than anything, I hope they use the latest line of processors. Nokia made Lumias always felt behind the competition in that aspect. Though the phones worked, I keep thinking a better chipset would have equated to a slightly longer device life, in terms of usability. And... Pricing. Their pricing needs to be right, specially for markets other than the US, the way OnePlus and Xiaomi have it. I can see where Xiaomi cuts costs on the really well priced devices, like on the camera, but because of great build quality, chipset/RAM and even internal storage, the devices are a hit
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This seems like a labor of love 💘 so it's got to be good.
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If these things were anything to be proud of, they would have taken the bubble wrap off. Not a good sign.
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It was not them who took the photo. I think it was the factory that sent them the photo to say "see we wrapped them up very nicely and they are on their way." Because he did say that "they should be here in a few days"
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Good luck for them, hope they put some unique apps. What matters is functional and stable apps mostly.
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Awesome! Can't wait to hear how testing went!
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We'll support u Greg... Keep moving! 👍👍👍👍