Windows 10 Mobile updated for Lumia 950, Lumia 950 XL as carrier blocking may have just ended

Microsoft is having a rather big update day as Windows 10 Mobile build 10586.29 is also now going out to nearly all new Lumia 950s and Lumia 950 XLs including the Lumia 950 on AT&T.

Yesterday saw this same build go out those on the Insider program, but today's release is a general one for what looks like all new phones sold with Windows 10 Mobile build 10586.

As confirmed in our forums, users are getting the update even though they are not enrolled in the Insider program marking this as the first test of Microsoft's Windows as a Service (WaaS) model.

Matching this update for Mobile is today's cumulative update for the desktop. That OS refresh also brings those PCs up to 10586.29 making this one of the first times both PC and phone get the same update on the same day.

AT&T too

Today's update is even more significant as AT&T is evidently letting this update go to their Lumia 950 with no interference.

This result lends credence to the idea that Microsoft specifically chose carriers that would let them have unfettered update abilities to their new Lumias for customers. Perhaps Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile would not allow such access that only rivals Apple.

What's new in build 10586.29

  • You will see additional improvements in upgrade experience, including devices with limited free space, map rendering on update, and RCS enabled device settings.
  • Improved application backwards compatibility for Windows Phone 8.1 Silverlight applications.
  • Edge performance and stability has been improved. Auto-completion has been updated to allow user to more easily edit the end of the URL in the address bar.
  • Additional Bluetooth stability improvements.
  • We have resolve issues on switching the active cellular connectivity profile on Dual SIM devices.

If you do not see the update just yet give it some time as this make take a few hours to hit all servers worldwide.

Source: Windows Central Forums; Thanks, everyone, for the tips!

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241 Comments
  • Halleluyah
  • Yes! I can already hear the bells chiming. WaaS has started its magic
  • i got the update for PC but not for mobile yet :/ :P
  • This is a big day if it's the start of all Win10 getting future updates on same day.
  • I hope it's true! Very exciting!
  • Well done Microsoft...:) my theory is that MS managed to convince AT&T by helping them realize that millions of active Windows Insiders are any day a better test bed than AT&T's drawn out testing process- probably limited to about 5 phones :D
  • I'm pretty sure Microsoft has mentioned that at some point (using insiders to test instead of the carrier testing proccess).
  • Didn't the reboot fix skip carrier testing
  • No company wants to run unfettered 'tests' by millions of people that they cannot contact, against their live environment.  
  • AT&T can't directly contact them but they are probably plugged in on the feedback channels...its possible that AT&T is the only carrier for Lumia now because they agreed to have a part in the windows insider program to make use of relevant builds for testing as well as access to relevant feedback from the insiders...ultimately speeding up the testing process.
  • ^^^^^^^^^
  • And here's the real reason T-Mobile and Verizon don't carry the 950. They want to reserve the right to screw their customers.
  • I like what you did there :D
  • But they are still blaming Microsoft for this..
  • Yes, they blame MS for standing firm on requiring the ability to push updates out in a timely manner.  It's all Microsoft's fault they won't compromise so the carriers can continue to inflict harm on the Windows brand.
  • Which is why MSFT could have put CDMA in them, sold them unlocked, and still pushed out the updates to the phone the same way they are now since they are unlocked phones.
  • Still slightly more complicated as you do need Verizon/Sprint to be a part of that process. However, the question is if MS is now pursuing such a path, do they think it's worth it (financially), and does the OS even support proper CDMA yet?
  • It has to support CDMA because the LG Lancet is Verizon and was added to this for Insiders...
  • What do you mean when you say: ". . . does the OS even support proper CDMA yet?" I've been using the Insiders builds on my Icon with next to no problems. I'm no expert, but I'm thinking that means that the OS supports CDMA.  
  • Well, by waiting, it becomes less worth it by the day... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • how much money would it cost to do carrier certification for CDMA?  how many more sales would that ensure? then do the math - is it worth it?   GSM certification opens the world - CDMA opens VZ and Sprint, small loss in the big picture  
  • As well as the largest carrier on the planet: China. They use a CDMA-based network as well.
  • Well, only China Telecom is CDMA base. MS seems that they did not cooperate with China biggest Carrier China Mobile, the new Lumia is missing major band B39 support for China Mobile. It is total failure in China
  • Actually, there are still several other countries and markets in the world that use CDMA besides the US. So the lack of CDMA support really cripples the 950's as a global phone.
  • I understand the 950 supports world CDMA, just not Verizon CDMA.
  • But in an affluent country with a propensity to acquire/upgrade devices like candy. A lot of corporations have Verizon contracts as well. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Doesn't CDMA carriers need to allow the IMEI access to their systems?  I thought I read somewhere that they are blocking them?
  • Then again, if an Android phone overheats due to CPU, everyone still blames the phone manufacturer and not the chipset company
  • Microsoft has shown that they are right to blame the phone manufacturer though...  MS dealt with the same thermal issues as othe 810 users so it's like buying a Dell pc where they didn't put a heat sink on the processor then blaming Intel for the pc overheating because they didn't make the chip create less heat.  They know the specs ahead of time and just made a bad call. Rumors about the S7 for instance seem to include liquid cooling.
  • I'm at a loss as to what you mean. From all accounts, the 950XL handles heat just fine with the 810.
  • He means Microsoft saw the problem of the 810 chip overheating so used liquid cooling to offset. Not fixing that overheating problem would be like blaming Intel for a hot processor if Dell failed to properly mitigate the heat
  • Ah, thanks for the clarification.
  • No, thats just how people respond to AMD. :/
  • It's fine they don't carry them.  Still no reason MSFT couldn't have put CDMA in them and have them sold at the MSFT store that way for the fans of the platform.
  • That still wouldn't make Verizon certify the handset for use on their system and people would still get mad at paying for a phone that carries the bands they need but doesn't work in their carrier. Verizon has treated Microsoft products like garbage for years.
  • No that's incorrect. This time around, Verizon is totally innocent. It was Microsoft that decided to cripple these phones by going out of their way to remove CDMA support that's already built into the chipset. Had Microsoft enabled the CDMA radio and certified it with the FCC, then Verizon would've allowed the phone on their network as long as it's unlocked. But despite all that, Microsoft made an intentional, deliberate choice to cripple the 950's radios and prevent their phone from working on Verizon's network.
  • Verizon is totally innocent.
    LOL!!! Great joke!!! .... Wait... you are serious??​ Oh boy... MS disabled the CDMA radio to avoid reports of people buying the phone and being unable to use it there. It would have led to VZ customers returning the phone. I SMDH at your naiveté.
  • So you are convinced that Microsoft actually doesn't want Verizons customers to have a 950? Never did? Or put another way, Verizon WANTED the 950 and Microsoft said no?   I just can't be convinced of such.
  • I'm sorry but I don't buy the Verizon is innocent bit. I know they had that report about someone complaining to the FCC and Verizon's "response" but I can't trust the explanation of a copy and paste letter that refers to the phone as the "Nokia Lumia 950". Also, Verizon has had problems in the past with deliberately holding back certifications for phones and they have always treated their Windows Phone customers horribly, especially with updates.
  • This goes back to Verizon having ms build the kin phone then returning them 7 weeks later
  • Knew this is what would happen ATT let them have there way
    That's also the reason they got the iPhone way back
  • ATT is probably the smartest carrier out there, If i ever decide to leave t-mobile, or lost my super cheap plan, I'll be heading over to ATT no doubt.
  • I was on T-Mobile myself and had been using them for years.   But having the experience of getting the HTC HD7 not get the 7.8, then the disaster around the 810, and having a HTC 8X and I finally got sick of T-Mobile's treatment of Windows Phones.   I moved to AT&T about two years ago and really couldn't be happier...
  • Oh, well I buy only unlocked devices, I hate renting to own my phones, I'd much rather jsut buy it outright and it be completely mine, T-mobiles wp support is pathetic though, im only on them because im in one of their sweet spots (when your in a good spot for them, god dann is their service fantastic!) and because of the incredibly cheap plan i have, and with them making netflix, hulu, and music streaming completely free, its really making me wanna stay, after all.. what reason do i need more than 2 gigs of data when things like video streaming and audio streaming dont take from it?
  • This is huge and quite surprising! Updating now!
  • Now lets see if they push out some Dual SIM specific improvements for the 950/950XL this year. Like VVM. :) 
  • VMM for dual-sim would be great, but I'm not holding my breath
  • sorry, do you mind telling what VMM or VVM stands for?
  • Visual Voice Mail. Awesome feature where your voice messages are downloaded to the phone, so you can play them independently of calling your Voice Mail inbox. Plus, you can easily delete a message, rewind, fastforward, etc. 
  • Create a Google Voice account.  Set your phone to use that as VM instead of ATT.  When a message comes in you get IM'd and emailed.  Transcript and recording provided.  Did that with my Lumia 920 and Note 3.
  • That works? I assumed it wouldn't because it's google with a Microsoft phone. I still can't get my owrks google email to work on my 830, but I think there's more going on in there because of security lol.
  • You're basically setting GV as your voicemail provider, so WP isn't part of that. GV will then text/email you the transcript/audio file. Not as good as having VVM or a real GV/hangouts app. Microsoft should really add similar functionality to Skype
  • Am I missing something here? I have Visual Voicemail on my 950 with ATT...
  • visual voicemail and wifi calling tends to require firmware from the carrier. that's why VVM and WiFi calling tend to only work on carrier branded phones. Plus, that last fix seems to be dual sim specific anyway.
  • WiFi calling, yes. VVM, no. I've had several unlocked, non-carrier-branded phones which have VVM. My AT&T branded Lumia 920 was able to use VVM on T-Mobile without any issues. This is because VVM is baked into Windows Phone/Mobile, so it doesn't actually require anything from the carrier. 
  • Interestingly, the developer unlocked version of the 920 was almost completely compatible with T-Mobile *except* for VVM.
  • same with 1520.3
  • my 1520.3 has visual voicemail and 1320, 925 and 635. all on tmobile
  • Not entirely true. The carrier has to enable VVM on their end so that you get it even through it is baked into WP. I read this week that if you did not have an AT&T VVM capable phone before or are a new subscriber and then added an unlocked phone that was not sold by the carrier such as an unlocked 950, then you would not get VVM. Apparently you need a VVM capable phone that was sold by AT&T in your past or present provision settings to enable VVM. The work around is to go to an AT&T store, go into the settings of a demo 950 and get the EMI number. Apparently their system does not block reuse of the same numbers. Then call AT&T customer service and when they ask for your EMI number, give them the EMI from the demo phone and then you will have VVM on the 950 or any other VVM capable device. On the XL, I think the issue is they have not figured out how to support VVM on a dual sim device quite yet.
  • Wifi calling on my straight from Microsoft Lumia 950 XL says nope. EE UK
  • AT&T is working to allow VVM in the unlocked 950 and 950XL, it should happend in about two days. That's what I was told. 
  • please provide a source..  either send the email to WinCentral to confirm with AT&T or post a twitter comment or something pleases would make my 950XL perfect... (almost)
  • Most UK carriers, if not all,are stocking the new phones. So, presumably, they have all agreed to allow Microsoft to upgrade as they choose. Which of course, is amazing!
  • European carriers always loved Windows Phones and are more supportive of the platform than in Canada, Mexico, US.
  • well, this is interesting...  hoping to have a new 950XL later this week so that i can see this update... come on microsoft store - waiting for you to fulfil my order from 11/24... I wonder if this was needed for ATT to allow the 950XL to have LTE somehow?? (without spoofing imei)
  • My 11/26 order from Microsoft hit my CC late last night. Now waiting on shipping.
  • my 11/24 order hit my cc (again) on 12/4 then dropped off overnight/this morning... apparently according to microsoft store phone support - it was a pre charge... my cc company approved it... phone support said "sometime this week" for shipping
  • Hi all, I have no mobile data connection after this update. Anyone else having same problem? 950 xl
  • I never had a mobile internet connection to begin with. Let me turn on my Nokia 3310
  • Wow! This is great! Due to the WaaS status of Windows, it is very important that all devices get the latest updates as soon as possible and Carrier's hindering it would undermind the user experience of Windows 10 on phones. It seems that Gabe wasn't joking when he said we would see updates on phones more often via Windows Update.
  • Nice to see phones are getting updated so soon. I hope Microsoft will provide excellent support for the upcoming years to these new phones and make them perfect in time.
  • Hail ya! The news I was waiting for! Cool stuff Microsoft!
  • Sigh... didn't ever receive this update while i was on insider program on 950xl, still not seeing it... hopefully it shows up.
  • Me too, neither with insider nor this one.... :(
  • Hang tight. I'm experiencing the same issue. I expect that it will be resolved soon.
  • Same, my phone is on the fast ring, but still hasn't recieved the update.
  • Same situation here. Dual sim 950xl on insider and no update showing up today, or yesterday.
  • ^ this. On unlocked 950, fast ring, no update yet, I keep checking.
  • you realize updates roll out over time not everyone gets it at once, right? Just wait your turn. They seem to roll out updates in small waves.
    That way if anything critical happens they didn't just screw over their entire userbase. Just whatever waves of customers recieved it before the issue was flagged.
  • I had to do a hard reset to get the update yesterday on my 950XL
  • Nice...update downloading now to my 950.
  • i wonder if this means OS updates will go through no problem, but firmware updates will still require carrier approval? Or will there be no distinction between them anymore?
  • not really, firmware was important for nokia because they liked to add their own tweaks to make the phone "theirs" with windows 10 and microsoft being the first party hardware, its more than likely firmware wont really be updated anymore, firmware will just act as a way for the os to communicate with the hardware. Basically.. this is the way it should be, nokia made it a tad weird. 
  • but firmware will take care of issues that are hardware/OS interaction related... or other things that need hardware fixes (those that can be taken care of with firmware of course)
  • Yes, I didnt say they wouldnt be needed at all, it would be much rarer to need one though, most devices would come out with all the features already enabled in the firmware, maybe a few patches after release to fix bugs, then done, what im saying is, firmware wont be part of os updates anymore, they'll be released to device specific things, Nokia used the firmware to group their tweaks into, in relaity, nokias "firmware" updates were barely any firmware at all, and just os tweaks, it was a strange thing.
  • No update yet.
    same as yesterday
  • How can at&t block it on my unlocked phone using Wi-Fi??? This is why I bought unbranded!!!!!
  • AT&T is not blocking anything. They are even letting their own branded phones get it.
  • Patience.  You just not be seeing it yet.
  • Why do you think they are blocking it? They are probably rolling it out in waves, so they don't overload the WU servers. This update is also going out across PC, so there is probably a lot of traffic right now.
  • its probably not blocked. most likely it just hasn't rolled out to whatever server you update from.
  • I think your phone is set to Airplane mode which is why you're not getting the update
  • sarcasm is strong with this one
  • it's hitting all servers one by one, soon globally, just search next few hours
  • if you bought unbranded ..you must be getting the updates from MS , not from at&t. Also new WaaS system seems to serve the updates from MS directly ( my guess).
  • 50% battery loss in 1 hour and stuck at 0% with my phone burning hot!
  • Nice to hear that........
  • Still don't see it in Canada hopefully those servers updates happen soon lol
  • Same for me.
  • Nothing in Calgary for my 950xl, but just updated my 830! Frustrating as ****. Got Here maps drive and transit back on 830.
  • On Telus in NL, still don't have it on my 950XL either. Anyone is Canada have this yet?    
  • ****...I might be going back to att now. (hahaha dam gets censored, wow.)
  • Why do you say 'wow' about that word being censored and what is funny about it? Depending on the context/way the word is used, that word is a curse word. You basically cursed online and got your comment auto censored for your contextually foul-mouthed (even a single word :p ) comment. In the real working world, depending on how professional the environment and how much coworkers hold to the HR guidlines, you may be reprimanded or even fired for repeated usage of curse words. I'm glad Windows Central now censors curse words as not everyone that reads the comments should be reading or needs to read comments graced by curse words just because the writer is comfortable with using such language. The comments look a lot cleaner now and Windows Central seems to be doing a great job of upholding a quality reading environment for all readers, of all ages, regardless of our personal opinions.
  • ******* **** **** it even censors it when its spaced out lol. So much for that old "how to curse using autocorrect" or whatever the article was called we had a year ago ahaha
  • pɐɯu So we can use upside down fonts, for now :)
  • You could not make window phone 10
  • go back to basics - before WP7 was Windows Mobile 6.5
  • Uhm, would I get this update being an insider on the slow ring? As fast as regular users I mean...
  • everyone is getting this update bro
  • Wonder if Cricket will get Windows 10 on their phones?
  • I actually recieved it yesterday when I enrolled my Lumia 810 to Slow Ring. Went from WP8.1 straight to W10M 10586.29
  • ahhh... the 810.  I kind of miss it...
  • Cool
  • Is this update for all insiders? or just those with the 950 and 950XL?  
  • This update was released to the fast ring last week. The point is that this update is now showing to for non-Insiders as well.
  • Thanx
  • The update for all Insiders came out last Friday. The update for non-Insiders is only Lumia 950, Lumia 950 XL and likely Lumia 550.
  • Thanx, may have to try it again on my 1520. I had a very unstable version in July and went back to 8.1.
  • It's also showing for my Lumia 830 non-Insider. Well I was an Insider last week but never reinstalled the Insider Preview app or rejoined the fast ring after updating to W10M and then a final hard reset.
  • eh, you're not fully *not* an insider. you're running an insider build. my guess is, it just assumes anyone running that build either has the "official" release (ie: lumia 950, 950 xl, and maybe 550) or is part of the insider program.
  • That's what I figured. Or it could be because this is a necessary cumulative update pushed to all phones regardless of carrier approval so that's why I got it. I probably wouldn't get the next big build update without installing the Insider Preview app again and rejoining the fast ring.
  • Same here. AT&T 830, updated to 10586 but newver put insider app back on.Getting 10586.29 now. (Maybe. We'll see if it actually downloads.)
  • My 950 is stuck at 0% with 50% battery loss in 1 hour...
  • Have it waiting at 0% downloading...but at least its showing! (950xl UK)
  • restart your phone and go back into settings app to get update
  • it's possible he simply was not on Wi-Fi and the OS was waiting for him to get on Wi-Fi before downloading.   Mine was on 0% all day until I got home....
  • Hoorayy!
  • Anyone know how to get out of Windows Insider builds? I was reluctant last night to enroll & update last night, if OTA updates from AT&T are going to release this fast I want out.
  • Search is your friend ;) How to stop getting Insider builds of Windows 10 Mobile
  • Thanks, I tried searching via the WC app but it pulled up articles about Sam Sabri leaving.
  • Nothing for my 950XL (in California), but my SP4 got the update...
  • Not seeing it in the Netherlands (yet)
  • *CLAP* *CLAP* *CLAP*
  • So, my question is... when will this roll out to standard users on pre 950 lumias (830, 920, 930, etc). It seems they're happy enough with it.
  • Looks like those pre devices needs carrier approval because most of them sold by carriers with contracts... If you don't want carrier mess up then enroll for Insider preview.
  • The official releas of W10M was November 16th 2015. However, you will need to get the update from carriers (which by looking at what they do with android updates mean a 6-12 month timeframe - or never). That being said, the easiest way is to enrol into Windows Insider, update your phone, and then opt-out of Windows Insider. At least I'm doing that for all my friends and family
  • Now if only we had more than hamburger menus to look forward to in W10M.....
  • Come on, even with a few bugs there are plenty of improvements.
  • Hi, Anybody in Denmark that have the new update yet?   // Lars
  • When win10 for phones is officially coming ? I have Lumia 720
  • Ofcourse... the expected When in India reply
  • Would a hard reset be necessary for this 10586.29 cumulative update? I only installed Windows 10 Mobile build 10586 on my L830 for the first time last week with a hard reset and started fresh no restore. Not having any major issues but wondering if this new update is worth it right now? I'd rather not have to do another hard reset so soon or maybe wait until the AT&T approved L830 OTA update later this month hopefully.
  • No hard reset required fo rthe update to 10586.29. I didn't do one, and mine is running wonderfully. 
  • Cool thanks!
  • Yay. Hopefully this helps the battery and wifi issues.
  • It didnt for me lol my 810 was on my Qi charger all night and it only made it up to 86% before I woke up lol.
    ​I'll see if it improves once the dust settles in the next few days if not ill try a restore.
  • Hope this goes well.  Still on Verizon with my Lumia 928 running WP 8.1.  Planning to update the phone soon through the Insider program.  Finally off contract in February and might be making the switch to AT&T if nothing changes by then with Verizon.  The only thing that I would miss on Verizon is NFL Mobile.
  • I wanted to do this, but with a test phone AT&T let me borrow, still no AT&T service for several miles from my house and most of the main road I drive to work. Verizon, on the other hand, covers all of that completely. :-( I must hope for a Windows Phone on Verizon. For now, I'll stick with my 928 a bit longer...
  • SWEET!
  • Wow the 10586.29 update is showing up now on my AT&T L830. And I have not reinstalled the Insider Preview app after a hard reset since upgrading to W10M (build 10586) for the 1st time last week. Weird! My desktop PC installed it earlier.
  • Talking of the 950 XL; any idea when we might expect to see that review Dan? ;) Amazon UK have pushed the date back to the 20th so I have plenty of time...
  • Holy guacamole!
  • I wonder if DT-903 will work flawless now?
  • my dt900 works fine.
  • Yu can hear the bells of official windows 10 releasing to first list of lumias....
  • This is a surprise. I hope this is an indication of how updates will be handled in the future.
  • So this is a just a cumulative update which carriers would have let go through anyway. They did it last year with WP 8.1. The real question is when are the carriers are releasing the approved OTA W10M update to non-Insider phones? Later this month or Soon??
  • Well I have a lumia 950 xl unlocked and still not getting the update (Usa)
  • I kept trying to tell people that this is how Microsoft would be doing updates once a phone was officially on Windows 10 Mobile. People told me, "No way. Carriers will still find a way to block it."  This is one thing I'm glad I was right about.
  • Still no update on my 950XL (Portugal)
  • I have on my Portuguese XL
  • The update seems to have fixed my bluetooth connection issues with my Microsoft Band.
  • I bought an unlocked 950 XL from the Microsoft store (US), it is enrolled in the Insider Program and I still can't get my phone to find the .29 update!!! So frustrated!!!!!
  • Still not showing up on my 950 xl!!!!! Urgh.
  • read
  • OK that heading was so misleading...i wanted to see VERIZON USERS REJOICE! YOU CAN USE THE 950 LINE ON VZW NOW!... Bummer...
  • mobile has been grinding along. It's the first time the update "started" instantly after activating fast ring but stood at 0% for about 14 hours and was stuck at 8% overnight until now
  • I think it's really about time carriers told us their rollout plans for those with windows phones on WP8. I know O2 in the UK simply say that Windows 10 mobile is coming as an update. Surely they know at this stage some ETA info?
  • The 950XL I bought on Nov 25th at the MS store in Scottsdale is not showing any available update. Still on 586.0 Never been on Insider.
  • Lumia 950 in Germany does not offer update to 10586.29 at all. Neither as part of the Windows Insider program nor as official update.
    Very sad since i miss the linked mailbox view severly.
  • You know Verizon would never allow that to happen. The only reason they allow Apple to do it is because the iPhone is the biggest seller. If not for that, iOS updates would be stuck in the same months long Verizon approval gulag that Android deals with. 
  • Just out of curiousity and I apologize if I look new here but why is it such a big deal for providers to set embargos on phone UI updates?
  • ATT 950 and I got the update earlier today. It's stuck on zero, however. May try turning phone on/off...I'm not going to do a hard reset for a **** update. 
  • W10M updates have this feature where they sit at zero for an unspecified (long) time, then jump up to 60% or so. Unless it's been hours, be patient.
  • Well, it sat at zero for so long that it drained my batter from 49% down to 13% and now it's at 9%. So it's going to kill my phone before the update downloads. I'm sure this will probably result in some isssue. Awesome stuff, MS. 
  • 8 hours later and still stuck at 0%, battery drains 50% in 1 hour and buring hot. how do we fix???!!!
  • EE UK 950 has updated...
  • Are alarms and the alarm lock and glance screen notifications borked in either build on the 950? How about quick actions?
  • I see the update on my 950xl it says Downloading 0% for the last hour or so (America - Colorado).  Phone is getting extremely hot and it's burning battery fast! (I had to put it on the charger).  I'm getting a pop up screen that says my memory is full, and asking if download should be stored on SD card.  You'd think Microsoft would pay us to be their beta testers.  Imagine what a pain this would be if they had like 10% of the phone market? 
  • This is the exact experience I've had. After two BSOD on my surface pro 3 from updates this is starting to really **** me off. If they're going to do WAAS then they need to BE ABSOLUTELY SURE that updates won't cause problems. Otherwise, don't send me anything. 
  • Do you tried removing the Sd card and do a soft reset?
  • yes.  Nothing.
  • Just keep trying. It will tell you that the update failed until it, well, doesn't fail. I had to plug mine into a charger after it died (i.e. restart) and then it all went smoothly. went from 0%, to 2%, to 20%, etc. Took about 45 mins in total. The biggest piece is the mail & calendar update!
  • Pretty neat. Any word on when Windows 10 Mobile will be available for the 640 & 640 xl?
  • i just checked the update on my phone and it downloading but for some reason its not saying to use my wifi. does anyone know how large a file it is edit: i just checked its not updating, prob waiting for my wifi. asked the wife to do hers and ill see it it updates. the phone told me its size is 1.24GB and will download on a none metered connection
  • When we see an article stating that the 950/950XL/550 got a firmware update, not just an OS update, and it went to carrier locked phones on the same day, that's when I'll believe the carriers are no longer delaying updates. So far all we've seen is that MS has uncoupled OS updates from the carrier approvals nightmare. We haven't seen a firmware update ...yet.
  • Still nothing on my 950 xl. I saw they acknowledged the issue on the 950. Hope they know it is the xl as well.
  • My unlocked 950XL saw the update yesterday and seemed to stick at 0% download. But I could clearly see the 950XL was downloading at about 8-10 mbps viewing the firewall bandwidth monitor on the network. It would halt for a few minutes, at times, then resume. Then without me noticing it, the update itself switched to "preparing to install". AT that point the phone was believable again. Everything succeeded. And no hard reset required either! So you can't be completely sure that 0% means 0%. (Wish they would fix that  lol ) Sure hope I don't cause folks to go blind staring at it for hours though.  :)
  • Downloading now. 950 XL, in UK.
  • Or you're missing the little details here, that's a commutative update, not a new build
  • 10586.29 was also pushed to Insiders on the Slow Ring yesterday as well. I enrolled my 810 in the Slow Ring yesterday and got 10586.29 along with my 520 which is also on the Slow Ring.
     
  • Thanks for the info
  • How's the battery life on L520 & hows stability too? Previous build had me resetting my phone close to 6 times a day, battery died under 3 hours of light usage.
  • Ever since getting my 950 XL, Edge has been absolutely destroying my battery. According to my usage stats, it uses close to 60% of my total usage, and my battery seems to last about the same as my last phone, a 1520. Has anyone who has gotten this update already noticed that Edge performs better now in terms of battery consumption? I haven't really seen too many people with this issue. I haven't exactly put a lot of effort into searching, as other than this I'm totally stoked about my phone, but I was just wondering.
  • Edge is battery eater no. 1 for me too, even if I do not use it more than other apps. Even my Geocaching app uses less battery with GPS enabled. I did not try .29 enough though.
  • 950xl unlocked, got it yesterday...
  • Got the update on my Surface Pro 4 but not on my Lumia 950 with Swisscom as carrier yet. Hope to get it tomorrow. It's a great news that Microsoft is getting all the Windows 10 systems update simultanious.
  • Alarms are broken on 10586.29... Correction: The notifications are turned off by default. This needs to be fixed.
  • that is such a dumb thing to let slip lol
  • My alarm worked fine this morning on my Lumia 950 running 10586.29.
  • I wasn't sure if I should enroll my XL in the insiders preview but deciced to go for it and see if it fixes some issues I've had so of course the next day they release it to everyone anyway... The updated coming to AT&T phones as well is great news. Microsoft has been promising this since WP7. The old developer preview program was a way to deliver that promise when they couldn't get carriers to work with them.
  • Hey Guys,   Lumia 950 Unlocked Is anyone getting an errors today stating that there is no storage left on the phone? The update never started to downloand. I have 22 gigs left on the phone and 45gigs on the SD card. It just started today. Thanks, Mark  
  • yes, same problem
  • 950 Unlocked Hey Guys, Is anyone getting an error stating that there is no storage left on the phone? I have 22gigs on the phone and 45gigs on my SD card. This just started today. The update didn't start to download any files. Thanks, Mark
  • I got the same error on my AT&T 950. Reboot the phone and try to update again.  
  • I got the same error too on an unlocked 950... reboot didn't help.
  • I had the same error, the download wouldn't start and the battery was given a hammering; I had to backup my phone and perform a reset before I could successfully start the update :( Quite a bit of my evening wasted.
  • 8 hours wasted on this update and still stuck at 0%... battery down 50% in one hour. Phone is buring up. How do we fix this issue?
  • I am the issue well on my 950 xl with no SD card and 22 GB free internal storage.
  • 8 hours wasted on this update and still stuck at 0%... battery down 50% in one hour. Phone is burning up. How do we fix this issue?
  • Same issue on my Lumia 950, 20GB free on the phone...it downloads the update completely but then says it needs 1.8 GB to install and to clear storage space. Tried soft reset and multiple retries to no avail....confirm there is still 20 GB free after the download. Still won't install.
  • I had the same problem, ATT Lumia 950 with 64gb SD card. I had to remove the SD card and do a full reset. Took all night but the update finally worked and all my apps were recovered through the backup install.
  • Same thing on my 950, and burning hot with with 50% battery loss in 1 hour...
  • I am in the UK, my 1520 is now on 10586.29 along with my desktop, SP3 and Stream 7. I was on the insider until 10586 but opted out once we got to what I considered RTM, so no need to rejoin the insider for this upgrade.  
  • While we're on this subject, having read the news on Twitter, it seems Paul Thurrot has finally transitioned into a full on hater of all things Microsoft. Geez, I stopped reading him ages ago when critique turned into endless rant, but he's full on slating anything and everything now.
  • Can't blame him really.
  • The guy makes his living writing about Micrososft and their products. Who wants to tune into a guy who is constantly ragging on the products you are trying to use and optimize? I agree, Ive tuned him out. Check out the MS Mobie Show, Microsoft Cloud Show, All About Windows Phone, Observed Tech, Channel 9 podcastsas alternatives.
  • That's great!!
  • When is windows 10 mobile coming for older phones ?? For 640 xl??
  • I'm pretty sure it's very soon since they begin with non-insider 950 phones. Last time I checked 640 XL was in the first batch of roll out
  • Anyone else noticing improved windows hello performance on the 950 after this update?
  • I thought I was the only one with my Lumia 950
  • No update. Enrolled in insider fast, sweden. 950xl
  • This build is much better than the previous build. Although they only state a few corrections, my battery life has improved significantly along with other key features that they mention: Bluetooth, etc. My 950 is now a "fully operational battle-station!"  
  • I wasn't receiving the update so i did the hard reset and then i got it immediately. Finally the issue dowloading speechs recognition different from English started to work. Finally i have cortana :D The update process took forever so keep a charger close.
  • a new age
  • I'm unable to download the update. Keep getting this message: "There were some problems installing updates, but we'll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x80091007)"
    I've tried downloading several times but keep getting the same message.
    -Lumia 920-
  • Nobody has mentioned the huge mail & calendar update that came through. I'm not on insider and the update gave me linked inboxes, totally revamped menus, and more. It's awesome. 
  • What Gatanui said.
  • Microsoft should seriously reconsider their mobile strategy if they want to capture atleast two digit market share. No amount of hard work like Universal apps will get them that. If a no name company like Xiaomi can become a smartphone sensation and still make a buck out of android why can't Microsoft with so much software offerings of their own follow their model. 
    I really want MS to be at number two, but considering their strategy I don't think we will see that anytime soon. 
  • still can't see this on my 950 XL
  • Great to hear about WaaS, about time.  Have ATT 950 but I had already enrolled back in Window Insiders and got update right away a couple days ago. Update went well and haven't had any error about storage full.
  • Got the update on my Lumia 950. Anyone else having trouble with email live tile and glance screen email notifications? Mine are no longer updating when emails are read on other devices.... Like it's not syncing. Emails come in as received just fine.
  • Have not got the update on my unlocked 950xl yet.  just checked again but no dice.
  • One of many more to come.. Been running 10586.29 from Insiders on my 640XL since the weekend and battery seems to have leveled off after a hard reset but there's still issues that need to be addressed.. Don't get me wrong I am liking it but if I paid $650+ I might not be a happy camper.. Couple issues I'm having,  WP10 is still not seeing all my photos on my SD card can't access sound settings(text, mail ect) takes me right to Notifucations and Actions instead??
  • Daniel LOVE the work you are doing here. This, however is pretty clear. I will attempt to break it down.. Microsoft made it ver clear that they chose to go with AT&T in a non exclusive, "exclusive." Microsoft: "We’re refocusing our channel strategy, narrowing it in the short-term and planning for broader operator availability long-term. While there was interest across the board from U.S. operators, currently we’ve made the decision to have AT&T carry the Lumia 950, and then sell both the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL unlocked through our own channel in Microsoft stores. In Europe, Deutsche Telekom will carry the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL, and we’ll have more to share about other carriers shortly." To add credence to this, both T-Mobile and Verizon stated that if Microsoft wanted the phones on their network it could be done. I guess no one really cares about Sprint anymore. T-Mobile "To be clear: We did not turn down the new Windows devices. MSFT gave to AT&T. If Microsoft wakes up, we’ll talk about T-Mobile carrying," Verizon: "Because there has been little consumer demand for Windows 10 Smartphones, Verizon has chosen to not carry the Nokia Lumia 10 in its retail channels. However, if Nokia still wanted to make the device available to Verizon customers, it could have the device certified for use on the Verizon network through Verizon’s Open Development program. To date, Nokia has not chosen to do so,” the remark states. In this case, Verizon is referring to Microsoft when they say Nokia in the response letter." Clearly there is nothing stopping Microsoft other than themselves. It would appear to me that the clear and obvious explanation for Microsoft being able to freely update Windows 10 mobile is there being a change in archetecture, akin to BB10 as noted above, allowing the updates to go through sans the "need" of approval. Personally, i think the Microsoft strategy is DUMB and they should have made their new "flagship" phones available as broadly as possible.
  • Still nothign for my unlocked MS store bought Lumiai 950.... 
  • Nothing here yet. :( If by weekend I see nothing, I'll join insider (is it also on slow ring?) and hope for the best and/or use the recovery utility (which yesterday also did NOT report an update).    
  • I am in insider on unlocked 950, still no update. Thought I saw an article from Daniel Rubino that MS was looking into this issue, knowing hard reset works, but looking for work around.
  • Here in Canada some lumias got the update, my 950 got it but never downloaded it. Called microsoft store and apparently MS is fixing the update issue on the Lumias 950
  • got L950 but i dont see the update ..still got 10586.00:(