Windows Central Podcast 135: A sort of WCOS announcement
This week on the Windows Central Podcast: a modern OS, silly UWP hot takes, and everything Computex!
We're back with another exciting episode of the Windows Central Podcast, and this week, Daniel Rubino and Zac Bowden discuss Microsoft's non-announcement announcement about their next generation 'modern OS'. Whatever it may up end being called, this is the OS we've been reporting on for quite some time.
They also tear down all of the misleading and incorrect hot takes about the death of UWP, and Daniel reports on all the other interesting devices and announcements from Computex 2019 in Taipei. Finally, the Windows 10 May 2019 Update is available to the general public.
This episode of the Windows Central Podcast was streamed live on May 31 2019.
- What is Microsoft's new 'modern OS' all about?
- 7 biggest Computex 2019 announcements
- Windows 10 May 2019 Update review: Simple changes make Microsoft's OS run smoother
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Edge was also attempted only to be abandoned and rewritten as a Win32 application.
Even Notepad is still a Win32 application. As a developer, UWP only made sense for writing phone apps. But Microsoft doesn't do phones anymore. Almost no one doing serious desktop development is using UWP, your only choices are WPF (essentially abandoned about 7 years ago, but still works) or WinForms (abandoned even longer ago, but still works). Microsoft thought they could force UWP (and its predecessor Windows 8 "Modern" apps) down desktop user's throats, then once they got used to it, everyone would go out and buy Windows Phones. The plan backfired badly - Phones are gone, Windows tablets never really went anywhere, Surfaces are basically laptops, so you only need desktop applications. Meanwhile true desktop development has been frozen in time from at least 7 years ago. The whole horrible Windows 8 Metro apps / UWP experiment has been a abysmal disaster. On another note, things that are not dead do not need articles written explaining how they are not dead! If you want to know what is dead, do not listen to Windows Central. Windows Central: Smartphones are Dead!
Everyone else: No, that would be Windows Smartphones that are dead, everyone else's smartphones are thriving Windows Central: UWP is not Dead!
Developers: Oh, its dead, its been an absolute disaster.
- Creating failed architectures and denying failures. Not only denying failures, but stating over and over that they haven't abandoned them.
- Even promising (Over and over) new features would come, but never did come Why do some fans keep doing what they're doing?
- Refusing to believe that MS failed and believing that something is still alive and hasn't been abandoned.
- ...And trying to prove something wasn't abandoned or failed by continuing to talk about it. In theory/concept, UWP seemed to have such a great potential. They were really trying to change how Windows worked. It seemed innovative and fresh. Not all of this happened under Ballmer though. It has happened under Nadella's watch as well. One thing I will say, the Surface Pro 3 was a great second try and was very successful! But the Surface Pro allowed you to use full Windows...That was part of the key besides hardware concept. With UWP/Metro it seemed they were trying to follow other companies ideas of the app store concept and eventually completely get rid of the "Old Windows" Now we have a touch-friendly GUI Windows 10 that allows you to run "Old Windows" styled apps (win 32 + 64) Few really bought into UWP and who bears most of guilt for that? I used to believe them and held on to hope, but at a certain point, there was no denying the existence of the dark cloud of "imminent doom" on the horizon coming towards us. I jumped ship and I am SO glad I did.