Windows Central Podcast 80: Polaris

We're back with another exciting episode of the Window Central Podcast. This week, Daniel Rubino and Zac Bowden talk about Microsoft's Windows Core OS for traditional PC form factors codenamed Polaris, everything we know so far about Andromeda, and the canceled Microsoft Band 3!

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Zac Bowden
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Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

  • I will disagree with one point. That is Windows Phone could not succeed because it was late to the party. I think it did not succeed because of improper implementation and lack of direction and conviction. If Apple could dethrone Nokia and BB, then why not Microsoft. Infact they were on right track until there was a change of leadership. And that was the problem.
  • Apple had a disruptive device and business model. Windows Phone was not that. 
  • Poor implementation indeed. And killed off, from a consumer's point of view, unnecessarily by Windows Mobile 10.
  • I think the problems is that they aimed for success as a market leader rather than profitable. Luxury cars don't move that many units, but look to profit and companies still look to be incorporated (Bose speakers, etc). Microsoft did nothing to convey a strategy of "profitable, core users" and made to many jumps in development transitions to keep interest. I wonder if they funded the development of major apps rather than court the companies, things may have been different? Or if that was something they actually offered and were turned down?
  • Bose speakers and luxury cads sell for more than regular price and so companies are able to recover construction costs by high profits. No one would have paid high price for windows phones so they needed volume to sustain business
  • I don't think the development of WinPhone was on right track. It makes no sense for programmer, startup or enterprise to code & QA for a small user base 3rd mobile OS. Chicken & Egg loop isn't that easy to break.
    However, UWP + full Win10 on ARM broken the loop.
    XPA is UWP and UWP we have on PC today will run on those ARMs too.
    And it makes no sense dropping ARM support. extra: it make no sense dropping IOT and Azure too. e.g. Water station and water meters in every household.
  • You are exactly on point, Google's phone hit the market well after the iPhone but more importantly Microsoft was the root cause of the WP's lack of success. In addition, it failed to address issues with Service Providers (and their biases) and etc
  • I agree though I'll add it's easier to become number 2/be profitable than be profitable AND be number 3