WPCentral Podcast Episode 115

Did you just do a double take? Yes, we're back with a British invasion no less.

Daniel Rubino is joined by Jay Bennett and Richard Edmonds for an all new WPCentral Pocast, signaling what we hope is the return to our weekly discussion of all things Windows Phone and Microsoft.

This week we only have two topics: "Mango" and "Sea Ray" since they dominated so much of the news last week. Next week, we'll return with our normal format from our previous 'casts (fingers crossed).

Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Editor-in-chief of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft since 2007 when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, laptops, next-gen computing, and for some reason, watches. Before all this tech stuff, he worked on a Ph.D. in linguistics, watched people sleep (for medical purposes!), and ran the projectors at movie theaters because it was fun.

  • are you seeing Find on page in Explorer on your Mango device?
  • Surprisingly, no.
  • Jeez finally! Damn every week I would check for a new podcast and when it wasn't there I would die a little more inside lol :P
  • You may want to consider renaming the podcast. It does not come up in Zune when searching for WPCentral.
  • Whoa, whoa...baby steps :-P(Working on it). For now, hitting the above Zune link will work though.
  • Hey guys, Great cast. Nice to see you posting them again. I just wanted to make a comment on the multitasking, though, as I saw this mentioned on another post on WPCentral. I don't think the "Fast App Switching" is representative of the multitasking. In other words, when Microsoft has said that Mango will support multitasking, I don't think they were referring to the "Fast App Switching" feature (this is something else). Instead, they were referring to the background agents, which do allow third party apps to do true multitasking (albeit with certain limitations to preserve battery life). Someone mentioned during the cast that Windows Phone does not support true multitasking (because of the single core processor) when in fact, this is not true, actually. It does support it! Windows Phone has preemptive multitasking just desktop OS (though its processor is equivalent to more of older Pentium processor, it can still do multitasking).This is actually what is used for some of the built in apps in Windows Phone 7. For example, the Zune music player can simultaneously play music in the background, and the e-mail client can check for updates in the background, etc. Soon this multitasking will become available to 3rd party apps in Mango with the use of Background Agents.The Fast App Switching is a different feature, in my opinion, since this is not multitasking at all. It's just a faster way to go back to your apps without starting over from scratch. Hope this helps. Otherwise, I loved the cast. Please keep 'em coming!
  • Hi Maniac, when we were discussing Multitasking we mention that WP7's implementation of Multitasking was comprising of both fast app switching and background agents/API's, I would argue that multitasking in this case is in fact the combination of both. For instance it wouldn't make sense to leave the app switching component out of this system, forcing users to use the existing "hit back until you're far enough through the navigation model to return to the app you wanted". Nor would it be wise to have the fast app switching model without the background agents (which I'm starting to develop with now and are pretty nicely implemented).We said that true multitasking at a very base technical level would require a dual core processor (or two logical processing units) and that this does not exist on Windows Phones at present. This is also true, and whilst with threading that's in the OS right now it's possible to switch between tasks incredibly quickly, the phone cannot perform two tasks in the same clock cycle with one logical processor. Of course to the end user, you'd never noticed, and I argued in the podcast that I don't believe we need that functionality in phones just yet. (Myself and Rich actually discussed this a while ago on the forums: http://forums.wpcentral.com/htc-arrive/177500.htm)
  • Hey GuysAll the features were announced at the London event too so we will have to see what features are available outside the US. I know currently with Bing I dont get instant answers for a search, nor do I have voice search capability.If you's wanna read a good article on WP mutli-tasking take a look here http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/24/windows-phone-7-multi-tasking-and-comp...
  • Hey Guys!! Great to hear you folks stepping up and providing a podcast, heck I thought maybe Jay's podcast link on the WP7 app wasn't working (wink wink nod nod). Good overview of the Mango with plus plus on some of the more elegant aspects of its changes. Just to let you know, I'm loving the HTC Trophy and really feel that it was worth the frustration of waiting for. MOST people who I show the phone cannot believe how beautifully the OS moves through the hubs and applications and LOVE getting and working on their Office documents in the native software. Thanks for the Podcast and please keep them coming!