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iOS App Store vs Windows Phone Store in 2014 – How do they compare?

Time to check in on how the Windows Phone Store is doing against competitors. While the app marketplaces for Android and iOS are larger than Windows Phone, the gap between high-quality apps gets smaller and smaller each week.

Today we're going to check out the top 25 free apps in the iOS App Store and see if they're available for Windows Phone. If an app isn't available, we'll try and offer an alternative for Windows Phone fans. Let's go.

The data

The following data comes from App Annie (appannie.com), an analytics and business intelligence company with co-headquarters in San Francisco and Beijing. They offer store stats for iOS, Mac, Google Play, Amazon Appstore, Windows Phone Store and Windows Store.

The data from their store stats is available as a free online service. In their store stats you get daily rankings, ratings, featured placements, historical rankings for apps and games that you can separate by country and categories.

The data below was taken on July 1st and represents the top charts for the iOS App Store in the United States. (If you go into the rankings now, the apps might have moved position)

iOS Top Charts 25

1. Guess The Emoji: Emoji Pops

  • Publisher: Conversion
  • What it is: A guessing game where emoji are paired together. Your job is to figure what word the emoji represent.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Some third-party knock-offs exist in the Windows Phone Store, but nothing official.

2. True Skate

  • Publisher: True Axis
  • What it is: Another game, this time an 'authentic' skateboarding game. Reminds me of those Fingerboards in elementary school.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: None. There are some skateboarding games on Windows Phone, but none that appear to be similar to True Skate on iOS.

3. Kim Kardashian: Hollywood

  • Publisher: Glu Games
  • What it is: An 'official' game about Kim Kardashian…
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Hahaha. I would hope not.

4. Paperama

  • Publisher: FDG Entertainment
  • What it is: Another game, this time a puzzler with an Origami theme.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Nope. Sadly couldn't find any similar games.

5. Fit the Fat

  • Publisher: FIVE BITS
  • What it is: Another game, this one with a fitness focus. You help your character lose weight by going to the gym.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: None like it.

6. Two Fingers, but only one brain

  • Publisher: Jake Zachman
  • What it is: A collection of over 20 mini puzzles. This is a game that requires you to beat two games at once.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Nada.

7. WatchESPN

  • Publisher: ESPN
  • What it is: The best, and only, way to watch ESPN live on your phone, tablet or PC.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: No, to the dismay of everyone watching the World Cup

8. Facebook Messenger

  • Publisher: Facebook
  • What it is: An app to message your Facebook friends with stickers, photos and more.
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes! [Download]

9. FIFA Official App

  • Publisher: FIFA
  • What it is: The official app of the 2014 World Cup Brazil. You use it to get exclusive coverage of the massive sporting event.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Bing Sports is probably your best bet to stay up to date with the World Cup. [Download]

10. World of Tanks Blitz

  • Publisher: Wargaming.net
  • What it is: A free-to-play MMO action game. You get to play with tanks!
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Nothing. Though you'll find a shady game from a shady dev trying to front as the real thing.

11. TwoDots

  • Publisher: Betaworks One
  • What it is: A minimalist puzzler. It's a beautiful game.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: None. This game has polish like no other. You might find an imitator here or there in the Windows Phone Store, but they aren't close at all.

12. YouTube

  • Publisher: Google
  • What it is: The official YouTube app for iOS. YouTube is the largest streaming site on the internet.
  • Available for Windows Phone: HAHA
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: myTube [Download] and MetroTube [Download] are the community favorites for third-party YouTube apps on Windows Phone.

13. Instagram

  • Publisher: Instagram
  • What it is: A free photo-centric social network.
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes, but beta + missing features [Download]

14. Snapchat

  • Publisher: Snapchat
  • What it is: A messaging app where users send photos and videos that get deleted after a few moments.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: 6snap is the best third-party client for staying in touch with your Snapchat friends. [Download]

15. Facebook

  • Publisher: Facebook
  • What it is: The world's largest social network
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes [Download]

16. Piano Tiles (Don't Tap The White Tile)

  • Publisher: HU WEN ZENG
  • What it is: An addictive game where you play on a virtual piano and tap as many black keys as possible.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: A few in the Windows Phone Store, but they're clear knock-offs and we won't link to them. You can find them if you'd like.

17. Google Maps

  • Publisher: Google
  • What it is: Google Maps for mobile. GPS navigation, street view, search and more all in one app.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Some third-party apps do exist if you want Google Maps on your Windows Phone. Try GMaps+ [Download], Gmaps [Download] and gMaps [Download].

18. Real Boxing

  • Publisher: Vivid Games
  • What it is: A well-received boxing game.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Try Real Steel World Robot Boxing to get a similar game. [Download]

19. Pandora Radio

  • Publisher: Pandora Media
  • What it is: Streaming radio service, one of the oldest and most popular.
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes [Download]

20. Spotify Music

  • Publisher: Spotify
  • What it is: A music streaming service with over 40 million users.
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes, but missing free streaming option [Download]

21. WhatsApp Messenger

  • Publisher: WhatsApp
  • What it is: A very popular messaging application with over half a billion monthly active users.
  • Available for Windows Phone: Yes [Download]

22. Univision Deportes

  • Publisher: Univision Interactive Media
  • What it is: The sports channel for Spanish language broadcaster Univision. To be honest it's probably in the top 25 because of the World Cup going on at the moment. The app allows users to watch games live.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: None at the moment. There's an official Univision app, but you can't watch sports live.

23. Bubble Witch 2

  • Publisher: King.com
  • What it is: A knock-off of 1994's Puzzle Bobble. This version comes from King.com, the makers behind Candy Crush.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Tons, but the best game that's similar would probably be Zuma's Revenge with Xbox Live Achievements [Download]

24. White Tiles 4 - Don't Touch The White Tile 4 ( with Piano music and Guitar music just Tap it and watch your Step and it has 17 Awesome Game Modes better than Flappy Bird)

  • Publisher: WANG BOXUN
  • What it is: Besides an app with probably the longest title ever? It's an addictive game with over 16 modes and looks to 'borrow' from many popular games like Flappy Bird and the piano game above.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: lol no.

25. HexSweep

  • Publisher: SplitCell
  • What it is: An endless-runner type of racing game, but with some sweet graphics.
  • Available for Windows Phone: No
  • Alternatives for Windows Phone: Try taking Hypernaut for a spin to get a similar feel. [Download]

Takeaways

WatchESPN Not available

  • Games are very popular on mobile platforms.
  • On iOS, 13 of the top 25 free apps are currently games.
  • None of those chart topping iOS games are available on Windows Phone
  • Of the 12 free apps on iOS, only 6 are available on Windows Phone

Microsoft still has a lot of work to do in order to get developers creating apps and games for Windows Phone. The data above helps show what's currently popular among users on one of the most popular mobile operating systems. Right now a lot of those games might be fads, but they're fads that Windows Phone owners are going to miss out on. While you may never want to play Kim Kardashian: Hollywood on Windows Phone, a potential customer might and will chose the platform that has it now. Windows Phone then loses out on the sale because a game that's popular today isn't on the platform.

That's been a struggle for Microsoft and isn't an easy problem to solve. You need more users to get more developers interested in devoting resources to Windows Phone today and not a few months later when the gaming fad has sailed.

Games are one thing; they're transient and don't last long. While it'd be really nice to get the hottest game today, a healthier ecosystem needs more apps with substance. Windows Phone is doing a lot better today than it was a year ago, but it has more work to do.

Of the 12 apps in the top 25 that weren't games, only 6 are available on Windows Phone. We have Instagram, Facebook, Spotify, Pandora, WhatsApp, and Facebook Messenger, but we're missing out on some really great apps like:

  • WatchESPN
  • FIFA Official App
  • YouTube
  • Snapchat
  • Google Maps
  • Univision Deportes

Three of those apps are super popular right now because of the World Cup. Anyone walking into a store to buy a new phone will turn down Windows Phone because they can't watch the World Cup live on their new smartphone. Instead, they'll turn to iOS.

Now it's a little unfair to look at just the top 25 apps AND games on iOS and compare it to Windows Phone, but it's a good way to get a quick snapshot of the difference in the two ecosystems. So what's missing on Windows Phone when we look at the top 100 chart for iOS? We'll ignore games, because they're pretty temporary in popularity, but here are the apps missing on Windows Phone:

  • WatchESPN
  • FIFA Official App
  • YouTube
  • Snapchat
  • Google Maps
  • Univision Deportes
  • SoundCloud
  • Gmail
  • CloudDownload for SoundCloud
  • Free Music Download Manager for SoundCloud
  • Tinder
  • Fly – A fast new video editor
  • Uber
  • Yahoo Mail
  • Flipagram
  • RetailMeNot Coupons
  • Dropbox
  • Google Translate
  • Music Download for SoundCloud
  • Fitbit
  • Chrome
  • Cartwheel by Target

Those are just the apps in the top 100 missing on Windows Phone. Hit up the iOS Top Charts on App Annie, and you'll find dozens of games missing from Windows Phone like Clash of Clans, Plants vs. Zombies 2 and others.

It's also sad to see apps like ESPN Radio, Kik, Pinterest and Expedia in the top 100. But wait, we have those on Windows Phone? Yes, ESPN Radio and Kik haven't been updated in years while Pinterest and Expedia are nothing more than web-wrappers posing as apps.

Is all hope lost? No, not at all. We wouldn't be running a site dedicated to Windows Phone if we didn't believe in the future of the platform. We just wanted to paint a picture of the current app landscape compared to iOS. There's still a lot of work to be done by Microsoft to help get these publisher onboard with Windows Phone.

There's also a huge opportunity still for indie developers on Windows Phone. Look for apps that don't exist on Windows Phone by browsing the top charts for iOS and Android. Don't build a generic knock-off, but take the time to study what that app does and built an alternative worthy of Windows Phone. Find a MySpace in those iOS charts and build a Facebook on Windows Phone.

Did you move to Windows Phone from iOS? What apps are you still hurting for? Sound off below. Windows Phone faithful? What do you think needs to happen for developers to take Windows Phone a little more seriously?

More to come!

In our follow up article we turn the tables: What are the top apps + games for Windows Phone and are they on iOS?

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iOS App Store vs Windows Phone Store in 2014 – How do they compare?

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That's not fair. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous of their app selection. And the quality of the apps the two platforms have in common.

I agree, but stop calling the Windows Phone Store the marketplace --- we've moved past that dark---well darker period Microsoft's Mobile platform.

Plus, App Store has Kim Kardashian: Hollywood. With quality like that, of course I'll be ditching WP for iOS, like yesterday. /s

App store also has Clash of Clans and Boom Beach. While freemium, I have been playing them for months and haven't spent a dime yet. Eventually I will make a $5 purchase on each to support the creators because they keep improving the games and making new content. Windows Phone has some good things going for it, but Microsoft needs to get more of the top apps available. Microsoft needs to do something to get more of the top apps. Maybe offer new apps a 10% or even 20% discount on how much MS takes for the first year or first six months or something. 

Read his comment again. How did you come out with the impression that he is a fan boy? What he said is true. The App store is Apple's biggest advantage. Without that app store, their phone and tablet are considerably less impressive when compared to the competition.

Yes, there are other OS out there better than iOS and Android.

But without the apps, that's like having a castle in the middle of nowhere, without any connection. There's only so much you can do isolated in a nice house while seeing the what the rest of the world is doing (or pretend they don't exist).

Living in an isolates castle sounds wonderful to me.  Not sure you can equate that to a mobile platform though.

I'm not so sure. Microsoft may not have the apps at first sight, but don't be mistaken. They are very strong in the business2business market and know how to market their products there. This is going surprisingly well!

Beyond that the appstore comparison is a little wonky. WP8 has platform exclusives too and a large portion of those iOS apps aren't available on Android either, while Android has a much larger marketshare than both iOS and WP.

Note that things like ESPN are only valid for ONE country; in my country I have a solid WP8 app that livestreams all world cup 2014 matches to my phone (and other sports if they have the rights to those). Works brilliantly actually. Many of your missing apps in that list are valid only for the USA, NOT for the rest of the world where WP has a much larger marketshare and where the "app gap" is a lot smaller.

Google Maps? Really? We have Here Maps and Here drive. While the first is on iOS and Android, the 2nd isn't and there's still no comparable free option for either. Remember, Apple maps is still horrific and Google Maps isn't better or worse than Here maps.

Also don't forget that on WP8 there are more built-in features. iOS is crippled without apps, WP8 isn't. The WP8 audience is different and like Android so are their app-purchasing habits. Remember; we have Bing Sports, meaning we don't need 5 apps or 10 apps for sports, no, we have and need one! (for the most part, you get the point). WP8 uses more RSS readers for news and similar apps like Bing News; meaning I don't need an app per broadcasting network. Those apps usually don't add anything beyond a glorified RSS reader anyway!

Most people around me have a WP8; NONE of them ever complained about missing an app. Whining about apps is mostly done by people that do NOT own a WP8 device. We may not have the applisting comparable to iOS, but the platform isn't comparable either! Start comparing on WP8 terms and iOS becomes a bleak outdated mess, partially because it's so dependant on all those different apps that only cost more time to use (as you have to go through all of them for the same info you can use ONE WP8 feature or app for!)

Basically it would be a lot more fair, honest and sensible (especially considering WP8 is NOT iOS) to be comparing 'things you want to do" instead of "apps we have available". And yes, obviously Microsoft should market this way to the consumers, but Microsoft appears (yet again!) clueless when it comes to normal people.

Yes, of course it's a negative point for growing the platform, that there are missing apps (at first glance) but there's a lot WP8 does instead of those where in reality people aren't missing apps as badly as some might think.

Well said. And lets not forget Cortana which I find to be superior the that other thing. Voice street directions are way better in WP. iPhones have horrible instructions and come way too late to do anything about them if you're in the wrong lane. I am mostly happy about the switch and wont be going back.

 

I see a lot of people make the case that apple/google app stores have like 60% junk out of the millions of apps they have. Honestly MS marketplace aint much better, in fact it worse. Ill say about 80% of the apps, in MS marketplace, i wanted or needed were complete junk, buggy, or full of spyware.

I love google maps and some of the other google apps. Of course not here. You have to trust a 3rd party app made in china/india to sign into your google accounts. At times i was embarrased to own a WP because I didnt have a basic app or function that 99% of the phones on the market could do.

Plus no official or decent youtube app. Both android and WP do offer download video/music options though.

Im pushing for WP to succeed. Tired of android and apple i will never try. But so far WP is always behind even with big updates. 

iOS does have some great games. Games that not even available to android. 

 

I broke away with google maps and google plus and most of their products a long time ago and i really don't miss them. I like others have mentioned I use Nokia Drive, Nokia maps and Waze. In the morning I get a notice on how long it will take to get to work and a map showing the problem areas to work. On my way to work I use waze which helps me look out for traffic jams, cops and accidents. That way it wont be to late to take a detour if the is a traffic jam ahead. Sure we could use more apps but the ones it arealy has is sufficent enough that i want an adriod phone or iphone. Besides there is only so many apps, music and pics i can load up before i fill up all my storage space.

happy with my 935,

agig

Thanks for pointing that out. Did not even notice they got bought out last year. I still like the app and i am glad it was a transparent transition. Glad It didn't turn into a YouTube fiasco.

is it that hard to open IE and type youtube?...lol..stop beeing pussies about that youtube crap app...not to mention HERE drive/maps are waaaay on top of IOS and lagdroid apps+Cortana+design that appeal to grownups, not that childish look on IOS and lagdroid. You can find any app you need or replacement in the store...and about the games..well...like I said..WP8 is for grownups

exclusives? like MS created products going to ios & Android first n later coming to wp,

exclusives like cortana which MS wants to move to ios & android?

Not WP8 lags everywhre, but its far far behind, for example take subway surfer, its a fad for time, when everyone else got bored of it, it came to WP n tht too partially, not for 512mb devices,

 

Yes, what has been said is very true. MS may not have all the apps the other platforms boast of. But, after buying a windows phone, I had no regrets. I am enjoying each and every part of it. It is just flawless. It performs when I need it. As far as  customization goes, the transparent tiles of WP 8.1 are more than enough. With the retro UI, it is a new perspective that everyone enjoys. With liver tiles, I spend a lot more time fiddling with my WP phone than even my android. The apps may be less. but the quality of whatever apps that are available are wonderful. Wih simplicity the key, the Windows OS is a formidable platform against iOS and Android. It is just a matter of time before the app gap closes and every one clambers for a WP. You need to be a window phone user to just admire the beauty of whatever apps are available. As far as maps are considered, I find the apps provided by nokia in symbian and the here maps provided in windows to equally competitive, actually much more simple and useful than that provided by Google. Being a fanatic of smartphones, I have already used android and apples. But once I got my hands on a WP, I dint feel the need for so much of customizations that I had been using on other platforms. Suddenly, I wasn't worrying any more about closing background tasks or switching off bluetooth. It jus windows and it performed. As I already said, it is just a matter of time. A job well done microsoft. Although I feel bad for the original nokia.

Then to be fair, take away all the WP store apps too. 

iCloud is superior to anything MS offers. One stop shop for syncing Many things.

Apples Native apps would be preinstalled if they didnt have an App Store. 

iPhoto, Garage Band, iMovie, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Game Center, Find my Phone, Remote, Podcasts, Find My Friends, iTunes U, Airport Utility, Itunes Movie Trailers, Apple Store App, iBooks. itunes Connect (business) 

All those are in addition to all the native apps that are on it out of the box currently. iMessage, Facetime, Safari, Passbook, Mail, reminders are all better than the MS alternatives (some MS don't even have) 

iOS mail is better than any mail on any platform for everyday users. Mail Fits the screen and I don't get a notification every 3 hours saying " your X account needs attention " like WP. 

Sorry, I have the Nokia 1520, and iPhone 5s. The Nokia is there to take picures that blow the iPhone away. Other than that, its a paper weight. The Nokia has a 6" screen that didn't bother to resize web pages and content to fit MORE on the screen... everything is giant sized instead...

Mate, I think there's something wrong with your Windows Phone.

Safari better than IE?  Whatever you say.  Mail fits the screen and you don't get a notification asking for attention every 3 hours?  Sorry, but my mail fits the screen and I do not get this notification.  It just works out of the box.  Gave my phone to my mum and she remarked how easy it was to get her mail account up and running without problems.

Sorry, I have the nokia 1520 and in addition to taking great pictures, it DOES resize web pages to fit the screen.  The moment you load up a page, you can see the WHOLE page.  This is for convenience.  All you have to do is pinch-zoom, or double-tap a paragraph and it will resize that page element to fit the screen.  ARE YOU SERIOUSLY complaining that the phone doesn't AUTOMATICALLY zoom in on web pages WITHOUT your user input?  Are you too lazy to zoom in yourself?  I'm pretty sure people would get annoyed if the phone automatically zoomed in on web page content for them.

Giant-sized?  Like I said, on my 1520 web pages fit the screen.  I call you out as a troll because if you actually owned a 1520, then you'd realise half your reasons are just make-believe.

If you're only using the 1520 as a camera and nothing else, then you're silly.  Sell it and get an actual digital camera.

Apple users need automatic zoom in, because of their tiny weeny screen size. imagine loading a whole page on a narrow 4 inch screen. anyone would need automatic scaling on that size! lols

i do not know what you are talking about. i have lumia 1520 and everything works like charm on my mail. x account needs attention? never happened to me, unless i changed passwords. maybe the nokia phone feels that you're an ios fan, so it doesn't like you in return haha.

paper weight you say? i've been using my phone like a companion. it's not the perfect phone given i cannot download many games that ios and android have, but not enough to let me switch to either os.

im planning to get a windows tablet and install bluestacks, it will be a monster after that. all i need from android is games. everything else i can get from windows and windows phone.

agreed. That's why Lumia is "only" my second phone. I still have an iPhone as the apps are better. And judging by daily esperience, the iPhone is a better phone because of that.

If you think about it, it's not dumb at all. I don't need any crappy google products or lame games (like don't touch the bla bla). I have everything (fb, whatsapp, here maps, xbox music, di.fm, ie11 and so on) I need in the wp store. I don't no-life with a phone.. I have a laptop for that.. which runs Windows. HA!

How is it dumb, rodneyej?  None of the apps on the apple store interest me either.  Ergo, it makes the store useless to me too.  What use is a store that contains nothing you wish to buy?  Would a person with no interest in health foods walk past a health food shop on the street and say 'that place doesn't concern me as nothing it sells interests me' be acting dumb?  Obviously not.

@ Aashish13 it's not a status symbol. The app store is a true asset to the iOS ecosystem. I defected to iOS in Jan '13. While the iPhone 5 has issues, the app gap IS real (I left because of no WP8 app for my bank and MLB, when BOTH existed for WP7). The app experience is so much better on iOS. With Foursquare on iOS I am alerted to coupons and offers when I check into a resturant. On WP7 and 8 I only got a few points for my check ins. I still follow WP becuase I want a useful phone and not just an iToy now that I am upgrade eligible.

-SAB

But it is fair. I've been trying to reconscile quite a bit of my Windows Phone enthusiasm as of late for a number to reasons:

  • The App Store isn't getting that much better. Every once and a while we get an application that we've been clamoring for but the feature parity isn't there. Add on the fact that Google straight up refuses to develop anything for Windows Phone hurts the platform as well. You also say to ignore games that are in the top 100 but we shouldn't. Many of those games stay in the top 100 for months.
     
  • Microsoft isn't saying anything about new flagship 8.1. devices. Had they said the 930 was coming to the States or another, more feature complete device was coming to the States, I'd be inclined to not bring this up. However, sitting on the 1020 and the 1520 is dumb. The 1020 should have been upgraded months ago and the lag of other device manufacturers bringing Windows Phone to market should be putting off alarm bells at Microsoft.
     
  • Speaking of alarm bells at Microsoft, I am seriously worried about the manufacturing QA that is going to be taking place now. My Surface Pro 3 took four times to get right. Three Surface Pro 3s had dead pixels in the display. It's been a common issue since they came out and Microsoft hasn't acknowledged it. What happens when they take control of all the Lumia manufacturing?
     
  • Microsoft's Metro design, something that was supposed to be a unique experience to Windows Phones, is popping up in iOS and Android. Sure, it isn't a tile-based OS like Windows Phone but the design language is there. If developers are starting to move towards this design language but aren't making Windows Phone versions, what is the break down? Is adapting apps from other platforms to Windows Phone something that no one is even interested in doing? iOS and Android L are taking the house the Microsoft built and running with it.
     

At this point, Cortana is the only exclusive thing to Windows Phone and the impressive cameras on the Lumia line. Otherwise, there isn't a lot to really say, "This is awesome!" OneDrive is everywhere. Office Apps are everywhere (and better in other mobile OSes). Xbox Achievements are on iOS and Android (albiet, not as prevelent as with Windows Phone).

(Before anyone tries to say "FANBOY!!" here are all the Windows Phones I've used: Lumia 800, 920, 1020, 1520, LQ Quantum, Samsung Focus, HTC Titan, HTC Surround.)

I'd read it, but I don't have the time. I'd respond to how wrong you are about me being ignorant, but I don't have time for that either.

Then you must read very slowly.  I read it all in less than 30 seconds.  And yet, you think that's too long to read but are totally prepared to waste time acting like a smarmy git.  Quit trolling.

Well, I did read it, and I agree with you. I'm on an iPhone because I didn't want a 1520, and the rest of WPs at att are lame/old

WTH is wrong with you people. If it's not a "one liner" your brain can't process it? 

Were the writers of the movie IDIOCRACY prophets foretelling the future?

I swear it's becoming a reality.

 

Lots of good points. I'm sticking with WP right now, I'm too invested in the MS ecosystem and design language (and way of working, I find WP so much more user friendly than iOS and Android) but if Threshold doesn't bring huge changes I think I'll need to take an objective look at whether I should continue to stick with the platform.

Fingers crossed though, they have every chance to make it work...

This is what I hate. When people like you settle for less, and tell people who want something COMPLETELY different to get something else.

A 1020 successor would NOT be anything like the 1520.  It'd basically be a more up-to-date 1020 with a possibly even better camera.  I will always associate the 10xx line as the 'cameraphone supreme' line.

As with many people here, I've been sitting... patiently waiting for MS to get up to speed with the app selection.... I WANT to support WP but IOS and Android seem to keep passing WP up on hardware and software selections..... I have an upgrade this fall... and i'm thinking that if WP8 doesnt start getting it right.... then its farewell until they do

 

Agree. I love my Lumia and have been a dedicated MS fan for years now... But tired of waiting.

I'm seriously considering jumping to Android where I can get the features and software I really want NOW. That in no way means I've given up on WP, just means for now and I'll come back to it in a couple years and see where its at. This decision is painful to admit BTW, I want WP to be successful, and I'll sorely miss the Metro UI. But the UI alone isn't worth the personal compromise right now.

Good point, mate. I agree with you there. Fortunately I'm one of those people who don't have much use for apps. I'm happy with the basics but all the points you have made are valid. Plus, we're beyond the point of saying, "Windows Phone will be there, one day. Just wait..." I don't think Windows Phone will ever close the so-called app gap, although, not a concern for me, it is a concern for most.

My sister is the same why, which is why her 928 is her lifeline. She loves how easy it is with OneDrive to get her pictures off her phone and don't have to worry about losing them like she did on her iPhone. She really only uses it for pictures, facebook and sms.

With iCloud and Google+, there is no excuse for anyone losing any pictures on the iPhone these days.If she didn't take the time to set it up, it's her fault. 

Same here. I don't care about apps (I actually picked WP because it seemed like it wouldn't really need apps so much... well, that didn't pan out but it was a good idea), but most people do, especially many young kids. When they can't play what their friends play, they will abandon the platform.

 

Yup ur 100% right! It concerns me that Microsoft don't seem to be in any sort of hurry wen the opposite should be true. They should have thrown every single v resource they had at Windows Phone as soon as WP8 was released but they didn't and it's embarrassing having an app like Skype working MUCH better on other platforms especially it being a Microsoft product that's essential. I don't know maybe having Satya running the company is bad for WP especially wen they are more making shitloads of products for other platforms, wen the reverse used to be true.

Totally agree with you. Feature parity is now the biggest problem to me - official Twitter, Foursquare, Spotify, Line and even the updated Facebook Beta is not up to par yet.

The reason i chose WP over iOS and Andriod was the Metro design, fluidity and security they provide back in WP8.0 but consider the lack of features (particularly app features and notifications) has cost me a lot for holding onto this OS. While WP8.1 has cleared some of the problems (i.e. action centre), it is still not up to par with iOS and Andriod because they are improving much faster than WP.

Now that both iOS and Andriod provide metro or flat design, and the upcoming Andriod L that improves fluidity has made WP becomes even more incompetent.

Office mobile and OneNote? I do use these two apps frequetly and as a college student i can't live without both of them. However my college do provide free Office 365 ProPlus so switching to other platform wouldn't be a problem to me.

The only thing WP now has is Cortana. I intend to use it while driving but WP8.1 has ruined the bluetooth pairing with my car that makes both my car and phone's microphone useless when they're paired together. After that i've discovered that not having Cortana isn't causing me any problem, which means i do not find any need for using Cortana anymore. Theregoes Cortana. 

So in conclusion, WP doesn't have any exclusive features that can hold me anymore. The only thing holding me from switching is Andriod's security issue (Not sure on Android L though) and iPhone's battery life.

JyhJinn, I see that your using the WP 8.1 DP and Cortana and having issues with your Speach recognition correct? Go to the bluetooth settings and a click Advanced. This will expose a check box to "Use an alternate Bluetooth audio connection for speach". This should hopefully give you better speach recognition in your car. HTH.

I'd be interested to see the reverse, our top 25 apps, or 100 and seeing how they fare against it. Make it happen Mr. Sabri

It would be great to add Android to the comparison too if possible. How many of the top 25/100 iOS apps are on Android?

And conversely, how many of the top 25 Google Play apps are on iOS and Windows Phone?

Of the top 100 Android apps, 43 are "regular" apps. The rest are OS-specific (i.e., AV, memory optimization, etc.), duplicates (i.e., two flashlights in the top 100), or games (which I don't have enough familiarity with to look for WP equivalents).

Of those 43 apps, there are 26 first-party matches (60%) and 6 third-party equivalents (15%) -- meaning that I could easily find 75% of the Android apps in the Windows Phone store. I can't speak to the completeness or quality of the apps since I don't use most of them.

If someone knows the game market well, you can do the same comparison at http://www.appannie.com/apps/windows-phone/top/united-states/ and http://www.appannie.com/apps/google-play/top/united-states/. Note that you'll have to click "Load all" at the bottom of the page to see anything beyond the top 100.

being an app developer I can say other OS have better APIs compared to WP ... MSFT needs to give more APIs to developers if they want more apps to come in. 

 

thanks, I'm aware of this website... I have few features requested. 

Requesting features on that website doesnt guarantee they will be available immediately, there are some basic apis they should have been available ... unfortunately WP team doesnt realize it

It's the Kardashian app right? Admit it, it's swaying you over.

On a more serious note, I'd really love to give that True Skate game a try, I really enjoy Skateboard Party, so something a little bit different would be awesome.

Also while I care little for sport missing an app like ESPN is pretty major blow, that's the sort of app that makes a huge difference.

I'm lucky to be light on apps... I don't game on phone, PC and consoles have spoiled me... and I don't use too many apps outside of core apps (email, txt, Skype, FB, calendar, weather and such)... so my transition from iPhone to WPhone was really painless. The only app that I'd really like to have updated is IMDB.

That being said, AppStore is overbrim with quality titles, and for those who use them, well, power to them. I hope our Store will get there, eventually.

What's the expression?  "Opinions are like @ss holes... everybody has one?  Okay, so here's my takeaway.... This is an article that is (sorry Sam), wasted space imo. Anyone who wants "The top 25 apps" in the iPhone store should probably be buying or already has an iPhone. It's not the "apps" that make a platform, it's the design, it's the core functionality. I mean how many flashlight and fart sound apps do you really need? 

No, it comes down to "What can my phone do that yours can't?"  "How easy is the phone to use for average users?" For example Kids Corner is a killer feature that is waaaaay underpromoted to the 20/30 mom dad club.  There are other features too that I won't get into for time and space reasons. The company that pretends to "Do no evil" won't create native WP apps not because the platform is bad... on the contrary, they DO see it's greatness. It's a very passive agressive approach that in the end really doesn't serve the interest of users like you and me. When Apple sued Samsung, it was the unique design of Windows Phone that was used in their arguments that one CAN create a phone ecosystem that doesn't mimic the iPhone.

Microsoft has taken a longer view with their ecosystem and applications.  Office for iPad for example. Bing for Android etc etc. Where there is opportunity to grow the business as a software and services company, they do it irrespective of ecosystem. Fanboys cringe when Microsoft does that but they do so because it is good for ALL users and good for their business.

Totally agree with u, except for the last para...the problem isn't with MS provides services to other platforms, the problem is that they make those apps better than whats available to the native platform (Skype,Office), hence restricting potential customers from moving to WP.

Sam,

but you are taking aa apple centric view too!

there are quite a few Xbox games not available on IOS

here maps not on ios (their fault -bugs in release)

Why dont you do one the other way around....

I am not saying WP appstore is better but it would reflect what you lose as well as

your above analysis of what you would gain.

Oh you need to fix the instagram thing to include rudis 6tag its a better version  than any platform.

Why should that matter? Maybe Kim Kardashian: Hollywood is effectively an iOS exclusive. (They can keep her.)

The version of the apps that we have are always behind. That said, all I really care about are that the top most used apps are current or atleast up to date with the others. I love my WP8.1 NL925.

Wants: Instagram video upload with FILTERS. & Share VIDEO functionality between these apps.

Also, discovered the bluetooth file transfer doesnt work the way I would expect it to (for video atleast). When transferring video files I can only "OPEN" the transferred file, it isnt saved to my files. Which is super lame since we have a file explorer.

By numbers, and in comparison to the other stores, yes the WP app store seriously SUCKS❗❗❗❗❗..... No showbox!

Microsoft cannot succeed unless they improve OS, no background downloads, no smooth transition of app. It's just useless. A dumb phone not a smart one..... Smarty phone this days can handle app in background with smooth transition. I won't be sold out on WP unless it improves OS behaviour. I don't really care about apps

it's not useless.  Don't over-exaggerate.  Sure, the multi tasking needs work, but it's hardly 'useless'.

Why would someone with no interest in apps be concerned about transitions?  On my 1520 if I hold the back button and change the app i'm using, it loads up in mere seconds.  Suspending an app rather than leaving it running in its full glory saves battery life.  I'd rather my phone lasted longer throughout the day - and the cost of a tiny inconvenience as apps 'resume'.

Background downloads work for the store.  Not sure if they work for IE.  IE does not have a clear downloads manager - I couldn't seem to find one.  You could always download UC browser which does have a more complete download manager.

The cost of apps running in the background is really API -dependent. My Jolla -phone leaves everything running in the background (unless I close them), and the battery lasts longer than on my 925, with similar hardware, with 2-9 constantly running, mostly constantly updating, apps. Lots depends on the quality of the apps as well.

WP uses dedicated background workers for getting things done when an app is not running, but there is a limit to how many of them can be active, the duration, and the frequency. Making a decent IRC-client (yes people still use internet relay chat), for example, is not possible without doing something very 'hacky' and expensive with a push notification -server.

I will let battery be affected a little. For eg. If I want to use torch and simultaneously check my FB I can't the torch will go off. If I want to download a movie on torrent it takes 2-3 hours so by that time I cannot use my phone for anything, what's the use? If I m checking my twitter and I visit some link read article and by the time I return to twitter it will refresh and I will lose other feeds it should take me back to where I left. If I have 10 videos in WhatsApp and I want to download them I have to not only keep WhatsApp in front but cannot even go to other chats or even let the screen lock. Enough said

If they aren't there within 6months, its time to look into android apps on WP. They wont be native, and they wont as good as native, but they will be available on the platform. If done right the average user wont notice a difference and it will plug the hole until native apps are available.

let me get my riot shield.

Hmm I wonder how BlackBerry is doing with Android app support, surely they must have 51% of the market by now... oh, wait!!!!

Agreed. If I wanted to use Android apps then I would have bought an Android device but I didn't, I bought a Windows Phone.

Android apps don't equal market share!!!

You are right, Android apps do not equal market share. APPS in general do. Right now devs aren't interested in making apps due to lack of a user base. The user base is down due to lack of developer support. Android apps would bring a bigger app count as a short term fix, and only a short term fix.

Problem is that "short term fix" for BB is now a permanent thing with the Amazon App Store for consumers and BBW (That's BlackBerry World for those of you thinking otherwise) is now relegated to Business users only.

That's the danger, Microsoft may decide to make it permanent and not just a short term fix with the Store being relegated to Business users. If I want to use Android apps then I would buy an Android device, keep Android apps off Windows Phone!!

Only problem...Android apps aren't really that good aesthetically. And many have problems with scale and dimensions, with lettering sometimes being to small to appreciate the app. Not to mention no live tile support. Android apps would just diminish the WP finesse.

it's not all about the app count.  Quality over quantity.  iPhone has soooo many apps, yet most of them are junk.  

It's about getting the key 'killer apps' on WP - without any cut features!

That's not Apple's fault. In my estimation you're either over exaggerating or you need to have a word with your internet provider.

Or a big Surface Pro screen that has over 8 million apps (applications), many that the iPad doesn't have and never will have.

Plus you get to see all of the internet as opposed to the restricted view on iPad.

My apps download in seconds. Updates too. I have a 925, dell venue pro 8, Acer w3 and surface 2. Maybe your connection is slow. Try to test it on two different connections. The Acer was like that before I completely rebooted it, and then sent it in for repair because it couldn't find the files it needed for the new install. I was repairing it for my mom but just ended up buying her a Dell instead. Once the Acer came back I gave it to my 3 year old. Works fine now. A few hiccups here and there.

Tablet not laptop. I'm a tech guy and my kids are pretty tech savvy compared to other kids. It's not the same as 20 years ago. Times change. How many people do you know that still can't use technology. Something as simple as typing a resume. My kids school require them to use tablets in class and all of their homework is online. So no, childhood not ruined. Child ahead of the game. By the way she's playing learning games, painting, skyping with her grandma in Chicago, and aunt in California, and watching the few shows I allow her through Microsoft family safety. She still reads real books and goes outside to play.

She still reads real books

Excuse me?  What's wrong with reading e-books?  At the end of the day it's just the medium of delivery.  The content is what matters.

I didn't mean something was wrong with eBooks. I just meant she's still a normal kid who dies normal things and doesn't spend all day on the tablet. She has plenty of book apps on the tablet as well. Especially the self reading apps. Those are nice for when I'm busy and can't read them to her.

Same in my house. I actually bought my daughter a touch laptop because of her school. She has been using these devices at a really early age also. She is actually waiting for me to get a new phone because she knows I will give her my L1020.

Been using Windows Phone since the original release of Windows Phone 7 (I'm on a Lumia 1520 with 8.1 now). I keep saying to myself "Oh, those apps are coming... only a matter of time now" 

I wonder when I'll finally wise up and switch to a platform that has actual developer support. 

No kidding! Why does it feel like it's our responsibility to pour our money into one of the world's biggest corporations (Microsoft) in the hopes that it will improve? Microsoft seems so focused on trying get the devices into the hands of as many poor people as possible and if Android has taught us anything it's that poor people don't support good developers like non-poor people. If it wanted non-poor people bad enough they would purchase incredible app development teams and produce a plentiful selection of apps and games for our consumption. Instead they went ahead with that ridiculous Nokia X crap. That's what the Windows Phone community is being offered. Nokia X instead of an abundance of great apps. Entice us, Microsoft! We don't want to leave your side but we're being given so little reason to stay.

Knock yourself out. The only thing stopping you is air and opportunity. Good riddance to you. I've got all I need on WP8.1.

You mean like a terrible Facebook app, terrible email app, garbage instagram? How about the fact that there isnt even an AMEX app on WP? 

WP is dead and buried. It's always "wait and the apps will come!" Sorry, but there is literally nothing but 3rd party garabge on the WP store. I switched from my 1520 to LG G2 and its like night and day how much more I can acoomplish. Also all of the Microsoft apps are better on IOS and Android. Look at Skype on WP, uttery garbage. Even Microsoft knows that its pointless to develop apps for their own operating system since nobody uses WP.

 

 

So u love ur info to be sold. Get it that microsoft is a business to business company first and then consumer to business. That's the thing what separates them and most of their products from apple and google

I don't give a damn if my info is sold to the highest bidder at all. I have nothing to hide, if Google wants to sift through my thousands of emails they can go right ahead. Why do all you tinfoil idiots care if someone reads your emails? What are you the President? Are you some sort of celebrity? In reality nobody gives a shit about you. I don't care if google knows everything about me, how will that hurt me? You guys are way to arrogant if you think someone is interested in your meaningless existence. 

What you're actually saying is nobody gives a shit about YOU. Don't expect everyone else give up on their aspirations just because you have. If self-limiting rants are all you've got then you totally deserve the right to be forgotten.

Dunno what you drinking buddy but stop as its affecting your ability to make sensible comments. "3rd party garbage"??? So garbage that actual companies are licensing these garbage apps. Telegram app ring a bell???

Yea bro how are you liking that snapchat app? Or that crap Instagram app? Do I need to continue listing them? 

You can defend MS all you want, but I had 2 WP and 1520 had 8.1 on it. They are leagues behind Android or IOS, and not just in apps.

SnapChat and Insta can go do one. I don't care for snapchat as I don't use the service but as for Insta, I'm sorry but you on one "bro". The official app is worse than that created by Rudy(a 3rd party dev) and going by his track record, id expect his 6snap app to be top quality too. His 3rd party app(6tag) is better than Instagram on both ios n android. The platforms wp so lags behind. Now don't get me wrong, MS has lots of work to do but your comment is too brazenly said.

What's wrong with Skype really, I've seen people complaining all the time but haven't run into any issue myself after almost 2 years on L920.

Try using skype on an iPHone and then on a windows phone.  I love my windows phone but my work supplied iphone runs skype a lot faster than my 920. I did not notice the lag until I started using another phone.

Unreliable toast notifications, no theme or accent support, no file file attachments, (not even pictures) huge battery drain, that's the first things I think of. :-)

What that has to do with him if he doesn't use none of those apps. I am just like him.. I have what I need between both my Surface and phone. If other stuff comes up that's fine and frosting on the cake. I am not a big gamer so that is not an issue with me. As far as social goes Facebook beta is good enough for me. I pretty much keep it simple with Facebook. And all the ones that are missing from the top 25 would not interest me one bit. I enjoy and is happy with my phone (Lumia 920). I agree with Microsoft needs to move with more urgency in getting phone out there and in bulk. Tired of hearing out of stock. Now I'm not stupid in order to get people to switch ecosystem you need the popular apps. Just saying there a alot of people like me too they need to recruit.

Gotta disagree here. Facebook app isn't bad. A little buggy, missing maybe two features, but definitely usable. Nothing wrong with the e-mail app. I don't use Instagram so I can't speak to that.

Third party apps are hit or miss, I must say, but in my experience it's usually hit. 6snap and 6anything really are great substitutes for the official apps. Skype is also usable.

well said. The apps issue is the worst thing ever happened to WP. I am seriously considering to switch my L925 aswell. I'm so disappointed with the garbage app selection there is. Waiting for my contract to end and will switch back to Android  if things remain the same (100% sure it will)

Seriously, all of these updates and official releases and you say WP doesn't have developer support? R u insane? Most developers just now, have the required APIs to make there apps. Trust and believe alot more will be pouring in before the years up.

I'm with the plattform since WP7 too and I used to wonder why people needed apps until they separeted the hubs from the OS in WP8.1. I still preffer to have WP8.1 but I really miss the old message, people and images hub.

Interesting I'm in the same boat! Started worth flagship device on wp7 now on 1520. Still waiting for the apps top come. Hate it when someone pulls out an iPhone with latest foursquare app. But I'm standing there with something that hasn't been updated in a year.

Didn't take me long after having a Lumia 710 for about a year and a half. I've had an HTC One M7 for a little over  a year and I'm wanting to make the move back to Windows Phone later this year or early 2015 at the lastet --- but who wants to give up quality apps! Android apps get quick updates, great support and nice optimization. Where in the WP ecosystem, you can't help but ask why is Instagram still in "Beta" and nearly featureless?

If you are not finding the apps you want, by all means switch. You absolutely shouldnt stick with a platform that is letting you down out of some weird brand loyalty.

I use WP because its my favorite. I have all the apps I want. I've installed some great games, but I find that I never play them on my phone. I used about 10 apps + browser, mail, messaging, etc and I like having a great camera. If I wanted any of those apps on the top 35 list that arent available, I probably wouldnt be on WP.

Those were the top apps in the IOS store?  Didn't seem very like an impressive bunch of apps to me.  A Kardashian app, really?  LOL.

Yeah games kind of skew the representation, but if you remove the games we're still missing a handful of the top apps.

And kind of sad, actually. But I'm assuming a lot of this list is driven by the fact that so many ios users are young folks.

Most iOS users may be older, but the second biggest group is young teens/pre-teens. A lot of these top 25 apps are for them, and not for the main WP age demographics.

Sam, the email apps are serviced by the built-in email support on Windows Phone... I've been pretty happy with that solution.  So I ask the question... Is it fair to list these as "missing" on the WP side?

Shouldn't they be serviced by the built-in email on other platforms? Nope.

Those standalone email apps do things that you can't do with the built-in email support. For example, the Gmail app on iOS is a must have because it supports a variety of unique Gmail features. And it's popular.

So what's the point of a smartphone with exchange email if people are just gonna use an app? Are people that REALLY dependent on apps these days? What else do you need to do with your email that the standard phone can't do?

The article says Google Search is one of these missing apps, but we have it on Windows Phone. Is it not the same?

Yes ...looks like I'm not missing much ... even when Civ Revolution 2 is launching on iOS right now.

Anyway nobody plays TBS games much less Civ on mobile devices...

Those dumbs ppl at Firaxis should launch it on the Windows 8 store.

Civ Rev was an abomination on any platform. It tore away most of what made the game awesome, it was too short and wayy to heavily weighted to the modern ages for victory. I regret ever buying it.

The WP alternative is to hit yourself in the head repeatedly with your 920.  That will reduce your IQ by about the same amount.

Except the few stupid apps. I find app store very good. Windows store is also now improving. The only thing I hate is google play store

Yeah apps are heavily copied down to logo and description. The title varies ever so slightly along with the publisher being different. The google play store is rubbish in comparison to the iphone app store and windows phone store but it has all the "major" ones seeing as many companies advertise having apps for both iphone and android.

The part I hate is the Google Play Service, not the store. It's their key to monopoly against all the Android forks.

Most of that list is complete garbage, and nobody is going to miss that crap on WP8. Kim Kardashian? Really? If this is the top 25 apps, the the app store is not as good as I thought.

True, ESPN Radio hasn't been updated. In fact, it's no longer supported according to an email I received from ESPN. BUT, it hasn't been updated on Android either since around the same time. While it was updated on iOS late last year, it has a 2 star rating, just like on Windows Phone (3 stars on Google Play, for the curious.)

In short, ESPN Radio is a bad app on all phones and ESPN doesn't care.

ESPN Radio survives on name recognition alone. I've used it on both iOS and Windows Phone, and TuneIn Radio provides all the same stations. With TuneIn, you can even find ESPN Radio affiliates not included in ESPN's own app. Oh, and there's all that other stuff you can play with TuneIn. I suppose if you live in a major market or just want to hear the network's radio programming, and have no use for any other radio stations, the ESPN Radio app is for you.

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