Are Windows 10's live tiles dead?

Windows 8 Start screen
Windows 8 Start screen (Image credit: Microsoft)

I've been thinking a little bit about some of the features available in Windows 10, especially now that 19H1 has started refocusing more on the things that are working and less on the things that aren't. For example, we're fully expecting My People to go away at some point in 2019, as well as see Microsoft backtrack on its initial idea of bundling both Cortana and Search instead opting to build out each experience separately.

One such feature that I'd argue isn't working too well on Windows 10 is the live tile feature in the Start menu. Initially introduced with Windows Phone 7, live tiles were designed to keep you up to date with "at a glance" information like recent texts, photos, comments, and tweets. Those live tiles were then carried over to full Windows with Windows 8, and while the live tile interface worked fine there, most people were unhappy with how Microsoft had forced a touch-first interface onto a platform in use primarily by mice and keyboards.

So with Windows 10, Microsoft found a happy middle ground where users had full access to the desktop while still being able to access live tiles from the Start menu if they so please. Except, as it turns out, most people don't need access to those live tiles on desktop. I've seen internal documentation from Microsoft that suggests people aren't really opening the Start menu to look at or customize live tiles. Users prefer pinning everything to the taskbar.

So what gives?

Not much has changed with live tiles

Let's take a look at how live tiles have improved since they first debuted in 2010. Outside of a few customization options and a larger tile size, live tiles haven't really changed. The only noteworthy addition to live tiles from a developer standpoint has been the ability to jump straight into something that was being shown on a live tile. But even then, very few apps have taken advantage of this. It's not like there isn't anything Microsoft could to improve live tiles, it has just chosen not to. It's sort of been abandoned.

I've seen many internal presentations and documents that detail interesting ideas for live tiles, but they were never released or put into full-time development. The reason for this is likely because Microsoft knows developers won't take advantage of these features. It's hard enough to get developers to take advantage of live tiles in their current form. Twitter can't even do it, failing to supply even the basics of a live tile.

It's looking like Windows Lite doesn't even have live tiles.

For a feature like this to be successful, it really depends on support from developers. Most Win32 programs on the web don't support live tiles at all, and there are many apps in the Microsoft Store that don't support them either, or if they do, they don't do it well. Of course, there are plenty of apps in the Microsoft Store that do support live tiles well, but not everyone is doing it.

The reason I bring this up is because I've been speaking to quite a few internal sources about Windows Lite, and it's looking like Windows Lite doesn't even have live tiles. It appears Microsoft is entirely omitting this feature in favor of the more common app launcher with static icons as seen on iOS, Android, and Chrome OS. If Windows Lite launches without live tiles, where is the incentive for developers to continue supporting such a feature on desktop?

Are live tiles doomed to fail?

Many would argue that live tiles don't work on desktop because the live tiles aren't exactly "glanceable." They are hidden in the Start menu, something that you have to manually click on before you can see them. The reason live tiles worked so well on phones is because the Start screen was the home screen. It wasn't an extra menu you had to tap into; it was just there. Most users using desktop today pin everything to the taskbar, because that's the quickest way to access your apps.

Like most of Microsoft's more ambitious ideas, for live tiles to be successful, they really need a mobile platform to thrive. So, unfortunately, I think the glory days of live tiles are over. While I don't think we'll see them gone on desktop anytime soon, I wouldn't be surprised if live tiles never get updated with new features again. If Windows Lite launches without them, as I have been told, I think that will be the beginning of the end.

Over to you ...

What do you think? Is Microsoft done with live tiles, or do you think it has a plan for them? Let us know in the comments.

Zac Bowden
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Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

  • I find live tiles useful, always have done since I first used Windows 10. I like the weather and news ones - I can quickly see a weather forecast for example without having to load a Web page. I even have the Windows Central Live tile on my start menu
  • The WC live tile never worked like it should be for me. Anyways showing up to 99+ new articles even if I just opened the app an hour ago
  • You do a app rest.
  • Would be more useful if it was possible to pin them to the desktop instead of start menu..
  • I think desktop would just get in the way or be covered up by something and an effort to find or hide. Start menu pops up/out is a nice tidy place for them
  • It is, but if its just another area to pin Live Tiles around not just on Start I think it would be still nice. With that they have an opportunity to even redesign the framework of Desktop which is still use legacy implementation. Things like more view options, layout options, groupings and other new things.
  • Wouldn't that basically turn it into the new Start menu? Like it was on Windows 8.
  • I would like for that ability as well. I'm probably one of the few people that liked the start screen, so apply that setting in W10, however the W10 start screen is much better than W8.
  • Though Windows 10 Start Screen is actually better than Windows 8 in terms of new features, it still lacks polish and even basic stuff. Things like ability to swipe/slide to open App List (both for touch and trackpad) multi-select Live Tiles, syncing Start layout, and better reflow of Start layout. Biggest gripe for me is that Windows 10 Start has no way to slide your fingers to open All Apps like on Windows 8.1 which previously you can do not just with touch but for trackpad as well which was great and enjoyable to use. In Windows 10, we are force to poke that tiny button on the left hand side of Start screen. Generally, gestures in Windows 10 many are poorly implemented or at as good as Windows 8.X does. Not just on touch for trackpad as well, especially when Precision Trackpads are more common now.
  • I agree. But it seems the changes to W10 from W8.1 reflected the general users requests and hence Windows has changed to suit. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is polished or not.
  • I agree in part. It would be a better place to have them but you still have the trouble of having to hit a button to show what is on the desktop. The article has it correct where tiles were good for the phone, but don't work on the desktop.
  • Go to tablet mode, you basically have that experience.
  • During the 'BETA' for Windows 10 multiple people requested this in threads and in feedback. The only response given by MS was a developer saying that they would not implement this because you already get this on the Metro desktop. They just seemed blind to the fact that people on PC's don't like the Metro desktop. I know some do, but most don't. An interface designed for touch is not workable on a keyboard and mouse device.
  • You could use the full screen Start Menu.
  • Vote for Live Tiles to the Desktop on Windows Feedback!
    Search there or click the Direct link:
    #Vote for a better Windows! I'd love it if Windows could do that!
    🙇‍♂️ Thanks!
  • So, I was reading some other comments here, and I guess this one I posted the link for voting is probably not the best solution. AndyCalling had a better idea. Well, anyway, I just hope Microsoft come up with something better than Live Tiles if they do decide to remove them :\
  • Yes please, I've been saying this for a year, the desktop is the one place that needs a change and live tiles would be an awesome addition. The reason not many people use them is because they are not top of mind but on the desktop they become front and center with the ability to resize, group and place anywhere (no weird spacing oddness) just let people organise as they like coz rhe task bar can only do so much unless they come up with a taskbar that can hold more than 10 apps without the silly scroll down when it's full.
  • You put them on the desktop and then use full-screen software then they are buried, one of the reason I do not put icons on the desktop normally is that there is no point if they are buried.
  • My account doesn't have access to this feedback error? Idk why I even get this. I'll try on my Insider Builds to see if it works. Though this kind of error can prevent some Insiders to upvote good feedbacks. I think there is still needs to be done on Feedback Hub to make posts easier to discover and not just about amount of votes. Some of the very good feedbacks don't get upvotes likely because most Insiders never knew they existed. :( Anyways in regards to Live Tiles on desktop. This has been requested for a very long time and for whatever reason, Microsoft hasn't even experimented on this. It is sad that Live Tiles has been in the back burner since Windows 10, heck even some of the Microsoft own apps don't all always use it well or at all.
  • Live tiles, although they could use more features, are still better that the hit, or miss, half baked, ad UI/UX, inconsistencies of Android rarely useful Widgets.
    MS sucks. They come up with the best ****, but have no clue how to make it succeed,. So they figure the best thing to do is always give up. Now, I barely use them on desktop, but on mobile they have been great. Just need more functionality. Nevertheless, ever Windows app has one for at least the basic, MOST NEEDED, functionality, and that's more than what you can say inconsistdroid. All I ask is for MS to give Launcher a live tile option. That would w
    work just fine.
  • Well said rodneyej. Who wants to give up on Live Tiles? <edited to remove language>
  • There is nothing a Live Tile will do that a widget cannot do better. Can't even have music controls on the Tile! The worst part of Live Tiles was the lack of chaseability. Even if they did randomly show you something interesting, it could be very hard to find that article or post since all you could do was open the app. Facebook didn't have great search capabilities and news app did not either. Many times you couldn't find the info the Tile showed you. So frustrating. Microsoft later introduce chaseability, but it was way too late and no one implemented it.
  • Yeah, if there is a widget available, and it's working properly... Just Stfu 🙄
    Im not reading your BS, and I could give a rats ass about your trolling opinion. I read your first sentence then decided it was ghe same old broken record BS you're already saying. Please stop existing.
  • I thought microsoft changed the live tile that when you clicked on the displaying news for example it opened onto that page? I do think putting live tiles onto the desktop may work though in fact do we need a desktop at all anymore make that the start menu as such?
  • Lol. Just saw where Daniel called you out. 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😂😂😂😂
    Rubino showed you the front door!! Lol please use it.
    Damn, man. How can you show your face around here any longer? 😭😭🤣🤣
  • There are tiles? It boots straight to desktop. Then, when I want to open something, I hit the win key, then type the first few letters of what I am looking for. Perhaps if I used a touch screen windows device more, then I would appreciate tiles.
  • I'm using both options frequently. Also just hitting Windows and seeing news, emails (and from whom they are) just in the corner of the eye makes me get a glance much better than on Android, where you just see a "5" on the App icon but no additional information.
  • I have always loved the tile concept. Unfortunately, developers have been pretty weak in supporting it. Microsoft's own apps rarely support it - Teams, Skype, ToDo, Office... Like everything else new MS has tried, the Windows user base and dev community refuses to see Windows as anything beyond Windows 7.
  • To Do has recently gotten better. You can pin a live tile for each list now, and it deep links right to that list, which is nice but that still just seems like basic, table-stakes type of functionality, nothing groundbreaking. Otherwise, though, you're right: very little support even from Microsoft. Such a shame.
  • I've been asking for the ability to pin live tiles to the desktop for years, since Windows 8.0.........alas, it's gonna be gone. Oh well
  • Same. I really like having the weather and news tiles. I think it's silly to open a web browser no matter how fast my PC is just to see the temperature or forecast. The mail icon is occasionally useful as well but the News tile is nice because it shows me some world news and political news that I normally I don't look for in my spare time. Can any developer comment on if this is a hard feature to continue implementing?
    There are lots of apps out there have rare or niche features. If keeping the live tile working isn't hard or expensive to develop I'd really like to see it continue being used. Aside from the usefulness I still think they are ascetically pleasing.
  • I think that if MS just re-enabled the option to boot to start screen for Windows without the need to enable touch mode we'd get to see our tile info as a matter of course and they'd be very helpful. Why they removed that option I have no clue. I love them and use full start screen myself, but they're not as useful as they were when we could boot to start screen.
  • "if MS just re-enabled the option to boot to start screen [....]" That's exactly right! The problem with Windows 8 was bifurcating the UI into Metro and Desktop, not its innovations. Live Tiles, boot to Start, horizontal scrolling (with parallax scrolling), and customizing Tiles were all wonderful. (But then I suppose Nadella doesn't think that there's room for a third Live Tile interface.) Windows has always offered a lot (sometimes too much!) customizability. Restore the best of 8.x and keep the best of 10 as options for users. Touch is essential to computing's present and future. Live Tiles will always be useful.
  • That's a great idea / solution!
  • THIS! I've been suggesting this in Feedback Hub since the inception of Windows 10, but it felt like either Microsoft doesn't want it nor Insiders don't want/care about it either, or Insider never saw post suggesting similar to this. If they just put an option (options are not bad) to boot straight to Start Screen even for us desktop users. The utility of Live Tiles would be make more sense. Think about it, the only big difference big difference between Desktop and Start Screen is that desktop allows you to put files or shortcut of files into it, while Start screen don't. If they revisit making Start screen act like a homescreen/desktop, Live Tiles would be more useful. For the most part, Start menu has been pretty much treated as an app launcher for apps that are not on Desktop.
  • If they get rid of live tiles, I really hope they do something other than static icons. Live Tiles were a welcome change of pace from a UI perspective in a static world of a bunch of icons. I like being able to give apps that I use more, not only prime space, but larger precedence over the other apps. If Windows Lite is really going to improve tablet mode, I'd like to see them stick with Live Tiles. They were great in tablet mode on Windows 8, (aside from all other issues found there), but they lack the finesse in Windows 10. Zac had a great video last year that really put that into perspective. If they could take some of the gestures and such from Win 8 and put them in Win Lite, I think we would have a great OS UX for tablet mode.
  • Damn straight. When you can compare the icon grids of iOS or Android with Program Manager from Windows 3 and see precious little difference, there is a real problem if that is supposed to be the apex of user experience innovation. The icon grid was yesterday's solution to yesterday's problems. Live tiles improved on the old way of doing things (icon grids) by adding to the user experience with information-at-a-glance. Saves time, saves power, etc. The problem isn't live tiles (that I can see): once again Microsoft hasn't got it quite right and its all too easy to blame developers and users for "not getting it".
  • But Live Tiles are still just a grid of icons. They are really just fancy icons. They had no functionality beyond randomly showing you information with no interactivity at all. Their true utility was minimal at best. Microsoft needed to unlock them, allow them to grow into truly useful tools, but instead they went the Apple direction. Extremely limited with no real utility.
  • Yeah right, the weather app was just showing random info and was not useful at all... X) There is also the translator app, notes apps, news, valuta, mail, agenda (iirc) etc.
  • My Weather live tile actually does show me random weather for Washington DC instead of my actual location...
  • You need to unpin and repin it. Washington DC is the default
  • Never have that issue with my weather widget. It has location data, so it just defaults to my location. Why is something that should be simple, so hard on Windows?
  • That's totally intuitive... not. But thanks for the workaround!
  • You can say that those characters that we use right now to type are thousand years old, compare them to the pergament and you see no difference. So they need to be changed immediately!!!
  • I'm an angry old fuddy-duddy! I hate things to change! Blah Blah Blah get off my lawn....but seriously...I like live tiles. This makes me sad.
  • I like the way Live Tiles look, but really don't use them for the information in them other than the mail, calendar, and weather tiles. That being said, I hope MS keeps them and finds a good way to make them more useful.
  • I don't want to pin stuff to the taskbar. I like live tiles. Like, like, like.
  • Live tiles keep me updated fast plus they look v cool.
  • That's where they are useful. Quickness. Something you will struggle with using Android.
  • You keep mentioning Android but it isn't really relevant here because this is talking about Windows 10 on PC. Live Tiles aren't as useful on PC as they were on phone. They could be more useful than they are but they'll never be as useful.
  • And, why do you think I give a crap about your opinion? I said what I said, and that's what I meant. Whats your point? Why TF do I need you telling me what I said? Answer that...???
  • Live Tiles are slow. You have to wait and stare and hope they randomly show you what you are looking for. Terrible experience. The notification pulldown is much quicker and you don't even have to leave an app to use it. Not to mention, they are interactive on Android. Live Tiles are a terrible experience. They have never been popular or successful. Every product Microsoft has released with Live Tiles front and center has been massive flops. Even Windows 8 was a flop all because of Live Tiles. Microsoft should have dropped them several years ago, after WP7 gained no traction or popularity.
  • I found live tiles useful on the phone for their ability to show live information as well as making for larger click targets (and looking nice). However, on the desktop, I find my eyes generally avert from the colorful live tiles. They seem distracting rather than useful in that context, for whatever reason.
  • They might be useful if they added more functionality. At least music controls and other simple interactions would make them much more compelling. This is Windows though, they should be fully functional widgets. People don't use Windows because they want limitations. Mac and Chromebook are there for that.
  • > People don't use Windows because they want limitations Not to say that other OS(es) have no limitations, but... please go create two files: c:\Troll.txt and C:\tROLL.txt and, when you are done counting them, come back and post your opinion on on the limitless power of Windows.
  • He raised a valid point, and the only troll I see here is you.
  • No, he is a troll, and looks like you are too. Smdh
  • Windows is popular because it isn't limited. You can do almost anything with it. Why are you so anti-Windows? Do you really think it is a good idea for Microsoft to put heavy limitations on Windows? They should release a simpler platform, but it shouldn't be called Windows.
  • Do you really think I'm ready past your first 3 words, troll?
  • If you like limitations, Apple does it best. Maybe you should switch, let Apple make the decisions for you.
  • Why would anyone want to do that? I don't say it's not ok for an OS to be case sensitive, but for an user it is really a bad thing to do. If you want to have fun you can still replace Os with 0s.
  • Case sensitivity is a NIGHTMARE on scale... Sure, for YOU on your 1 PC where you yourself may be able to remember all the permutations that YOU use. I'm an IT director and it would be absolute hell for 99% of users. It's hard enough to get everyone to remember their passwords case sensitivity. Putting two files with the same name but different case in the same location is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
  • The best thing about Tiles isn't the "Live" aspect, but rather that they're resizable, that you can organize your Start Menu groups with various tile sizes, emphasizing some apps over others. I HATE the "pin on taskbar" practice, it's visual pollution in my eyes, those that do it usually also have 50+ browser tabs opened.
  • Agree, what looks great isn't anything "live", it's the tiles. Whereas iOS, Android etc have icons like a Windows 95 desktop that don't match any kind of theme, Windows tiles are colourful and help standardise app logos. Plus they can universally be split into sections and resized, it just all makes for a nicer UI than 4x5 random icon grid.
  • Agreed. Also, how many things can you pin to taskbar on 10" device before taskbar scrolling rears its ugly head?
  • You can resize the taskbar, with two, three, even four rows of incomprehensible tiny icons. (I seen it done)
  • Lol! That's so ugly
  • I've created hundreds of my own Tiles, don't like pinning to Taskbar, and often have dozens of tabs open. (And thousands saved.) I love 8.x's Start. Microsoft ought to offer it as an option for 10's users.
  • Yup I like how I can emphasize importance too
  • Or you know we work in +8 programs constantly and never ever see the desktop or start menu unless we reboot our computers. I can have +10 tabs open in our case handling system alone that i work on besides regular office programs etc. And that is just counting one computer. Sorry but not all of us have the same needs when it comes to computers. Let them have the functionality for those that need it and let the rest of us disable or remove the needless clutter.
  • I loved live tiles on my Windows phone but really don't see much of a future for them in a desktop environment unless we could actually pin live tiles to the desktop itself instead of shortcuts. Personally I rarely go to my start menu because I either pin my most used apps and programs to the task bar or as shortcuts on the desktop. I'd love to be able to mix and match live tiles and regular shortcuts on the desktop, however, and see that as the only way live tiles can survive outside of a mobile or tablet environment.
  • I prefer the eye candy of my wallpapers, so I hide my desktop icons. I've assigned the Windows key to a mouse button and tap that whenever I want to access Start. It's beautiful.
  • For me the Desktop is just a temporary storage.
  • I don't have that many live tiles on my start menu anyway but I really want to know what would happen to the weather live tile.
  • Good article Zac, I did raise this awhile ago as well. It's only a few seconds to launch the start menu and check the live tiles but that defeats the entrenched mindset of the purpose of live tiles. Simply because people are now accustomed to looking at live tiles at a glance and in terms of useability it's not intuitive on desktop pcs which traditionally do not have touch screens. Microsoft is also to blame here as they completely neglected the tablet UX and in doing so maligned touch to the background. Live tiles with touch is amazing however using it with them with a mouse not so much. Furthermore, people are simply accustomed to using icons with a pointer on laptops and desktops pcs. So they are simply going to use the start menu as they have done before going all the way back to windows 95 for example. There are few solutions to the issue of live tiles: 1) Allow live tiles to be pinned on the task bar like icons and the desktop - by doing this you slowly phase in use and slowly people will become accustomed to it. When pinning allow a static tile to be pinned and allow users to turn it off by settings. This way you have comfortable middle ground for all users as people are bound to complain... lol. 2) Allow a section of the start screen to be permanently pinned above or below the task bar or where ever the users chooses (just like you can do with the task bar), this way you can glance at the information and pin tiles relevant to you. For me I'd love to have live tiles on bottom of my screen as I use a 40 inch tv as a monitor and since sites poorly use screen real estate and you have to constantly look down when scrolling... it would be easier for me to read the live tiles because they would be just there. 3) Allow different sections to pinned, not pinned, hide and unhide in different virtual desktops, so if I needed to do work, I'd simply open a new virtual desktop I could simply hide or or unpin the start menu section if they become too distracting. 4) Allow live tiles to be used placed on the desktop, this way you can simply phase out the use of icons. Furthermore it would be easier for those who have OCD when it comes conforming shapes and patterns. Plus it would allow users for example to have a desktop filled with large tiles, for example I could have a virtual desktop just dedicated to news apps. This will prevent the start menu becoming cluttered with sections and grouped tiles. Thus preventing the user having to scroll up or down. The additional bonus with touch screens would be drastic ease of use and for that Microsoft seriously needs to work on the tablet UX. As you cannot add a new virtual desktop in tablet mode... which makes zero sense when you have something like the Surface Studio in your product line up. These are just 4 solutions that I can think of from the top of my head. Never the less there are few others but they all are dependent on gestures thus on tablet mode which is just bleugh at present. They easiest and simplest solution would be re-adding the gestures and touch controls from Windows 8.x as people are already familiar with the aforesaid gestures and controls.
  • I've been thinking about the role of the taskbar since your piece on the death of the People Bar, where you observed (rightly) that users don't want to pin endless heads to the taskbar. I do think the People function could be useful if it was better executed eg it offered a pop up list from the taskbar, and could integrate with non-store apps (full Outlook anyone?). But it's interesting to read that people don't value Live Tiles because they don't use the Start Menu. That seems crazy to me - one of the great UI virtues of Win10 is that it gives you tiered ways of organising app access, so I keep the taskbar relatively uncluttered with only the apps I use all the time, then have the start menu for stuff I use less frequently (and the left hand apps list for everything else). Live Tiles are a minor part of that, but for a couple of things like weather forecast they're handy. I just wonder if Microsoft did more to help people make the most of the UI's flexibility they might find it was better loved, certainly in relation to Win7, but also to whatever flavour of MacOS - and they might also work out what to do with things like Live Tiles and the People Bar.
  • I use the full screen Start menu on Surface Go (and on Surface 3 before that). In that context, live tiles are great. I use them the same as I did on WP8 & WM10 -- for quick "glanceable" info.
  • + 1000...this is what I do usually.
  • Taskbar is ok to start an app fast but not useful for a quick overview like u have with tiles. One click vs open each app to check if there is something new. I use it for mail, calendar, to-do lists, pictures, instagram, weather, news, chat and some other stuff. For a tablet that's a must have in my opinion. For improvement they could try to add some functions like in sailfish os. There they have open app "tiles" view with added functionality. So for the calendar tile an "add entry" action, forward/pause/backwards for groove, for mail a new mail button. That's really cool.
  • I think live tiles should be retained and should be prominent in a fixed tablet mode. Who is in for windows 8 interface for tablet mode?
  • The same amount of people who were until Windows 8 tablet mode the first time. That is, very few people.
  • I like some live tiles, but most I have to turn off because I can't find apps effeciently when the icon keeps changing.
  • Just because a few people don't use or like live tiles don't mean most of us doesn't like or love them. I like my live tiles. Instead of going to a website all I have to do is click on start and see my live tile set up and get the info I need right away. Another good feature that is unique to Microsoft and good that will get bummed out. I really hope it doesn't. I vote to keep live tiles.
  • I've seen the data, most people aren't using live tiles. You're in the minority.
  • And I'm sure the data of the day said who needed a monitor when you had punch cards for data entry...everyone was using them. Or a GUI interface when DOS was around. What did the data say then? Live tiles were a work of genius. Maybe they should be mandated as a requirement for all Windows applications. Let the user decide which ones are useful or meaningful and turn them on or off. News, weather, sports are obvious choices but it would be nice to see snippet of my last Word or Excel document to remind me where I left off without having to open the app. A quick tap or mouse click on the start menu is all that is needed. To dismiss something because the data shows that most people aren't using something is completely short sited and a poor excuse. I suppose that's the reason that Microsoft hasn't fixed the location problem on the weather app. I now use a third party app the does a great job with the live tile.
  • Live tiles are not "the work of genius" and they are definitely not needed for every application. I find them more infuriating than helpful, as I often struggle to find apps because the icon was not what I was expecting and ones that seem useful, like Weather, are terribly unreliable and never up to date. I'm glad Microsoft is trying to move away from them a bit.
  • So you can't remember where you placed an app and misdirect your anger from your poor recall to the os? And you think ms's removal of this feature is going to assist you in the fact that you don't have to be reminded about your poor recall and that makes you happy, even though your poor recall will still exist whether you like to be reminded of it or not? LOL!!!
  • It seems like the data is measuring whether people are opening apps from the live tile. I don't always open the app. A lot of times I'll just get the info from the tile and move on.
  • Yeah, I was going to questions this "data." How can data determine if I look at a live tile and decide to interact with it or go on about my day. Unless there is a survey with people answering pointed questions, I'm not sure that is valid data. That said, I agree with what bleached and a few other have been saying, the live tiles never progressed to widgets. If it was Groove, I should be able to play/pause/skip like if you hover on the icon in the taskbar. If showing a recent post in social media apps, I would want to like/repost/etc. The fact that they never evolved it tells me it was a port from Window Mobile that the desktop team really had no vision for and didn't care to.
  • Read it again. They are looking at how many people customize them. Great indicator that you are planning to use them.
  • Yeah. People don't use Live Tiles because most users are like cavemen. They just open up Google Chrome or play their video games or open some program for their job. People throw all their files into a huge mess on the desktop. They don't even know how to make folders. People pin everything to the Taskbar. The start menu is where they go to search for programs that they didn't pin. People don't use the live tiles because of the Taskbar and desktop. Like you said, having to open an additional menu is a pain in the ass. But I hate when you guys write articles like this because you guys are probably a big part of the reason why Microsoft scraps features. I like the start menu since I can group all of my Word programs together and all of my Adobe programs. Just because most users are uneducated doesn't mean we should get rid of features.
  • B/c they are "hidden"...bad design decision when moved to current location when it happened.
  • "Just because a few people don't use or like live tiles don't mean most of us doesn't like or love them. I like my live tiles." The real world says that it is opposite. A few people like Live Tiles; most don't use them.
  • Who cares what the real world says? Most computer users are uneducated.
  • MSFT didn't properly market the feature when Windows 8 was introduced and needed to give it a refresh with Windows 10. They needed to iterate on it and not let it slip into oblivion.
  • I use them all the time, other than on my desktop right now where every few hours I lose my Start configuration and it resets to the default for some reason. Otherwise, I love having them for that "at a glance" value, with a few important bits of information in there: calendar, weather, and NextGen Reader for Feedly. Some of my other important programs but not everyday programs are also there instead of the taskbar, which is mostly reserved for stuff I need all the time.
  • I customize it as a former wp user seeing info at a glance. But my brother and other friends don't bother with it, neither does anyone on their work computers.
  • I don't open the start menu to see live tiles. They should be on the desktop. I still use Win 7 gadgets (CPU, RAM, GPU, SDD, HDD, Processes, Network, server availability, unread mail). I find them really useful, and I don't understand why MS removed them from Win10.
  • Because the entire "Gadgets" API turned out to have multiple, huge security holes that would have been near impossible to fix.
    With so few people even using "gadgets" (I loved them too BTW) MS decided to get rid of them rather than try to fix it.
  • ^^This^^ in a big way. I used gadgets for several things on Win 7. I remember when MS came out and basically got rid of the library of them. I actually saved then so I always had them.
  • Just to make it clear: I still run the Win 7 gadgets - under Windows 10. Better than live tiles ...
  • Omg, finally. Please do it.
  • With foldables coming soon, I think live tiles will need to stick around. Just because they may see less use on a desktop, because they're hidden in the start menu, doesn't mean they don't have value. I really do wish I could pin live tiles to the desktop or taskbar because I try to avoid the start menu whenever possible, but love the glanceability of information.
  • Let's say, on one hand, even if there's glance always on desktop, I don't find it really useful for many apps. Do I need to know how many unread emails, or what's the latest unread email, if the number is always 99+? Or the title of latest news which when I click I can't directly read it? Of course there are some apps that really take the advantage of the live tile, like calendar, weather, but it's really not the kind of feature for every app.
    On the other hand, Windows used to have desktop gadget, which is actually more useful than tiles (if you don't consider how hard to find and install them and the performance impact). Android also has that and Microsoft Launcher also uses gadget a lot. Maybe, just maybe, if it was not Live tile from beginning, but a modern app gadget extension that could be used either on start menu or desktop, or even action center, somehow on taskbar (i.e., hover on the icon to see the gadget even if the app is not running (of course could just optionally show side by side when the app is running)), etc. I think it may be more welcomed by developers and users.
    Now I think many cases it's better to evolution rather than revolution.
  • This is what drives me crazy. Why build something that is already available? If live tiles are dead fine but at this point the masses deserve something more intuitive than another launcher UI. I don't know what's next, I just know I'm sick and tired of having similar experiences that never change. I truly just don't know. Why would I buy a touch Microsoft anything if it doesn't offer me something more.. I mean Apps aren't there. As is touch is laughable... I switched to a mac book pro and an iPhone x but if **** keeps like this I don't think i'll ever go back.
  • The world doesn't have room for a third platform of it doesn't do anything unique... But we're going to build another new platform that doesn't do anything unique bc the "would be unique stuff that would be unique if we actually finished the job" isn't doing well bc we don't finish the job and not seeing huge adoption The cycle of ms
  • Well maybe if they let us pin them to the desktop, snapping them in a column like the old Sidebar in previous Windows, they might actually be useful. It's a sad reflection on Microsoft, that even in the Windows Phone days, 3rd party Apps made far better use of Live Tiles than Redmond ever did. Then again, this is the company that has a Sticky Notes App, where you can't stick them to your desktop either. Kinda ridiculous.
  • You should be able to pin them to the actual desktop, not just the Start Menu. Then they would be useful again.
  • Just make the Start menu full screen.
  • "You should be able to pin them to the actual desktop, not just the Start Menu. " Works for me. Or bring back widgets.
  • I’m with you on a clean desktop. Just think it’s a better option than killing live tiles altogether. For that matter I don’t like pinning to my taskbar either. I only like apps I’m currently using to show up in taskbar. The only exception on the desktop is the weather. It’s a pain to load up an entire website just to see what temp it is outside. If they do end up axeing live tiles I hope if they do nothing else they give us some easy access to weather info. Build it right into the OS if necessary.
  • Yes. As is everything else. We just don't realize it yet. -_-
  • Live tiles don't have much of a use case. They're a quick glance into some info and that's it. I love using it for weather, but I turn it off for every other tile. Without advancing live tiles there's little use for them.
  • You honestly don't think live tiles have much of a use case on mobile computing?
  • When are guys going to fix the Windows 10 app. You do know that you can't add comments using the app right?
  • I added a comment earlier, and how do you think I'm replying to you right now?
  • Yeah but still, the app is pretty broken. I get an average of two crashes per launch attempt. And have you seen the discussion boards? You can't even read the entire title half the time.
  • I feel that with actionable notifications in the notification bar, the further development of Live Tiles has stalled. After more than a decade of Windows phone I too had to leave that platform. Using Android for over a year and Microsoft since 1985, of course got on to Microsoft's launcher for Android. I feel this to be a rather customizable and versatile solution that I have been advocating to replace Start for quite a while on the desktop. In whatever form, we need something new to move forward.
    What I would really love too see too, is persistency for virtual desktop setups, launching in a windowed work environment with just 1 click.
  • Live Tiles on a PC (laptop or desktop) aren't especially useful hiding on the Start Menu. What if Microsoft resurrected the desktop sidebar for user selected live tiles to be on display through out the day?
  • This is exactly what I love about windows 10. Please keep the live tile and make them even better
  • One factor is that early updates of Windows 10 had a habit of destroying the Start Menu. In three different updates we had dozens of machines where the Start Menu ceased operating, so we started placing all key applications on the taskbar and desktop for the entire company. As a result, even though live tiles could be useful and the Start Menu is theoretically a nice launching point, we are unlikely to ever return to it.
  • I'm glad you mentioned this. Early versions of the Start Menu were frustrating to begin with due to the lack of basic customization options. This was compounded by instability and the very real possibility of having your frustratingly difficult menu reorganization efforts wiped out by a crash or update. These issues probably drove millions of users away from regular use of the Start menu and tiles from the very beginning. That's a shame because the menu and tiles more customizable and stable these days. and I, for one, really like it.
  • The only live tile I used on Windows 10 was the weather one, but I since removed all tiles from my desktop's start menu, both at work and home. Only place they still shine brightly is on my tablet. Farewell old friends, you were half the reason I loved Windows Phone
  • If Live Tiles goes away then what happens on Windows 10 when you're in tablet mode?
  • Live Tiles are a unique design, a differentiator for Microsoft. Nobody uses them. They shouldn't kill them because they are good for clean touch interfaces, and they can offer more at a glance than a grid of icons, which IMHO is a boring and much more dated paradigm. If CoreOS and CShell are coming, some systems will benefit from a design like Live Tiles, for example Andrómeda. What Will it bring otherwise, rows of text titles for each app, like the Start Menu's All Apps? That's boring.
  • Its a failure because MS failed to explain its benefits to its people. Heck, I explained what live tiles was at a car dealership to an MS employee that was blown away with it. I used it for various stocks etc. She was even more surprised when I showed her she could pin websites. If your own employees dont know how to use your device.. .what do you expect from others?
  • This is a little surprising to me. I use live tiles all the time: Mail, Calendar, To-Do, Weather, Drawboard (shows recent files), my text editor (same), myTube, and finally, Windows Central. (I hate having the news front and center so I avoid that.) I can't imagine how pinning an app to the taskbar is a good substitute. I find it hard to believe they'll get rid of live tiles. As for My People - who cares? It was useless.
  • Live tiles are somewhat useful on my Win10 PCs, but they are absolutely central to the experience on our Windows phones. I know that MS has abandoned us for now, but I still hold a little bit of hope that they will include the telephony stack in Andromeda, so that we can have supported Win10 devices in our pockets again, which we can use for calls and texts, even if MS won't call them phones.
  • If live tiles is coming to an end then please roll back everything, bring back the glorious days of Windows 7 and clean all this Windows 10 mess.
  • Good riddance. Virtually everyone hated them.
  • Haven't updated in a while... Let me coopt an old quote... Everything that can be done with live tiles has already been done. Even that is probably too much.
  • Live tile pop-up when hovering over pinned app on Taskbar please!
  • One thing that I found frustrating with Live Tiles on desktop is that you cannot put a document as a tile. You can put a folder; but not a document. On W10M, you can put a document as a tile. This is what you would think Microsoft would understand since they are suppose to understand productivity. Workflows are not about apps, but about content. Tiles on the desktop is only about apps. People work with content/documents. They need to be able to put documents as tiles. By the way, there is a registry hack that will let you put a document as a tile, but this is an extreme power user move. If you look at the icons on most people's desktop, the icons will be a mixture of apps and documents. I though do not really use desktop icons. I find them too messy. Prior to W10, I used shortcuts in the Favorites folder. And then I could map my Favorites to my OneDrive. I then would be able to access apps and documents via Windows shortcuts in the Favorites folder. Since it was on the OneDrive, these would move with my account onto different devices. A Windows shortcut is a very powerful thing. It can represent a Windows UNC which can be just about anything (URL, file, executable command, networked resource, etc.). The tile, though it can get data pushed to it via the app, it is not as powerful as a UNC in terms of what it can point to. In W10, they got rid of the Favorites folder accessible from the Start menu. This kind of pissed me off since my way of using Favorites was deprecated. I have since switched to using a Taskbar Toolbar that points to a Favorites folder of Windows shortcuts on the cloud. I admit, I don't really fuss with the tiles too much. Why, because I need to launch documents and URLs as often as I launch just an app.
  • Vote for Live Tiles on Desktop on Windows Feedback!
    Search there or click the Direct link:
    #Vote for a better Windows! I'd love it if Windows could do that!
    🙇‍♂️ Thanks!
  • So, I was reading some other comments here, and I guess this one I posted the link for voting is probably not the best solution. AndyCalling had a better idea. Well, anyway, I just hope Microsoft come up with something better than Live Tiles if they do decide to remove them :\
  • I don't think Microsoft cares about live tiles anymore. Its been a whole month and the weather app live tile is still not working. The whole live tile back end seems unreliable ever since Windows 10. NextGen Reader and many other apps don't update like it used to on Windows 8.1.
  • Weather app live tile works just fine.
  • I actually like it when only a few apps support live tiles (that really benefit from it), keeps the start menu clean while a few important apps show updated info.
    Tiles are perfectly usable atm, they shouldn't be removed. Especially considering there might be more surface go's clones and other windows tablets coming in the future etc.
    People just need to get shown that they can be useful, perhaps a better init start menu and info tutorial.
  • I don't think lives tiles dead. I think it's going to be used on to prove tablet mode.
  • Why fool around? Ask Nadella, king of the cull.
  • I feel like we are going to see Live Tiles evolve into something else. Something that reflects Microsofts new vision of adaptive computing. The icons may function one way I'm desktop mode and am other way in tablet/mobile mode.
    I think we'll see the start menu become way more adaptive once they finally launch Windows Core OS.
  • I love the tiles!!!!
    Update sure - but keep the concept!
  • Only have live tiles active on 4 apps. But I kinda love it on those 4 apps. Nadella in true form. Strip Windows down to the absolute bare minimum. What a tool.
  • I hope you're wrong
    Even if many apps don't use that (and i couldn't find a useful usage of tiles for most apps on my pc), some do and are very useful for that !
    Social networks, emails, calendar, reminders, weather, stocks, news... all that I follow using tiles, I often open the start menu just to have a glance at everything at once, without launching anything. Aside of that utility side, live tiles are now the windows "second logo", that s what makes W10 not just another OS with icons... losing that would be a step back, at a loss of diversity.
    And it also gives life into the start menu, thanks to the animations.
  • I love them on my phone, don't really use them on my laptops/desktops because I don't use the start menu as the launch bar is much more convenient and accessible. It would be sad if they disappeared. At least Launcher 10 and Square Home both use them to some extent on lagdroid.
  • They work well for me since all my devices are permanently set to Tablet Mode and full screen.
  • I think live tiles are very useful for tablet mode and (if we had any device options for it) mobile. Not so for desktops, but if MS is really trying to have wincore os be suitable for smaller form devices, it seems dumb to potentially ditch the live tiles.
  • I'll admit I don't use them much on my desktop with the 40" widescreen curved monitor. I'm not in Start much on that thing. Now, I love them on my Surface Go, which stays in tablet mode, so the Start screen is what comes up when I open it. I can see how many unread emails I have in each of a half dozen e-mail accounts. See what's next on the calendar (this needs to show more if I make it bigger), I see the weather (unfortunately for the wrong city for the last few updates, noted/upvoted in feedback), new mentions in Facebook, gallery of my photos, and other useful information that helps me know where to go next. It's just as useful on my Go as it was on my Windows Phone(s). The nice thing is I don't need to use it on the desktop, but have it available on the Go. Don't take away the choice. If they get rid of them you just have Windows 7. If you allow them on the desktop, you just have Gadgets back (which I liked BTW). Be great if they did some more with them, but please keep them.
  • Please upvote on this feedback if you want to keep Live Tiles forever:
  • when you have nadella who can't innovate or push the mobile space, of course it will be dead. i hope balmer returns one day, just like steve job did to Apple and made it rise from the ashes.
  • Live Tiles suck
  • God dammit fn hell I hate this world and everyone in it 😡
  • bring back balmer and the nokia team and the world will heaven again.
  • I loved windows phone because of its live tiles.
  • It's a shame that so many PC users don't really know how to use Windows properly. There's plenty that I don't make use of or don't know exists or forget but, in this case, viewing live tiles isn't an onerous task at all. You simply hit the Windows key on your keyboard and the Start menu appears. Hit it again and it disappears. Virtually no effort but so many people are so used to using the mouse to open the Start menu to then click on something to open it, they don't even think about using the keyboard if they don't need to click on anything. Also, it's sad/funny that there was such an outcry about Windows 8 removing the Start menu and yet now people have an issue with using it. Microsoft have made their share of missteps but they're also at the mercy of a user base that is so large that it seems anything they do will at least get panned by a loud minority.
  • I like them. My Taskbar gets overloaded with open files during a normal workday. Just being able to arrange my tiles based on subject is way better than the old start menu ever was. My weather tile works and so does my news tile. Both get a glance if I open the start screen to get to one of my apps. Also, how would you even try to work a tablet with only the start menu? Just do something with them, they aren't bad at all.
  • Go to any DOD computer. Or a state/local government computer running Windows 10. Or a university, hospital - pretty much anywhere with a Domain controller , and you know what you don't see ? Live Tiles. They're disabled. Considering that covers the VAST majority of users of Windows machines - that's why Windows says they're unpopular. If you want ANYTHING to change in Windows , that's who you need to target. That's who you need to persuade to change their thinking. And I wish you luck , because these are the type who even today will still ask if they can have Office 2007 loaded on their computers because of Ribbongate.
  • the irony of that last sentence is that these were the same people who HATED the ribbon ui when it was launched
  • These are the same people who keep a copy of Wordperfect 5.1 on a floppy disk and have their cardboard cutout keyboard templates with all of the shortcuts written on it. When I was a SNCO, we had a planning meeting for new technology (early 2010s) and even THEN people were still clamoring for floppy drives even though they cost extra because of some ancient program or whatnot. I wish the live tile community luck winning THEM over. Because ultimately, they're the ones with the clout to make the order.
  • Simple solution bring the live tiles onto the desktop to replace the Widgets that i loved pre windows 8. People won't have lots of live tiles other than weather, computer stats, email, or thing people want to see daily.
  • Or move your mouse to the right side of the screen and they slide over so you can view them. I like that. But as I said above, until the BIG Microsoft customers stop seeing them as security risks and disabling them , they'll never catch on.
  • Live tiles on windows 8 (mobile and of) worked great, on windows 10 (pc) I'm fed up of them being blank and needing a reset
  • To this day W10 is nowhere near as polished as W8 was.
  • Yeah make laugh as they gradually reintroduce new features and they where already in windows 8 that loads complained about lol
  • Live Tiles are nice. I do wish they had more function within apps. If MS set the standard of what that is supposed to look like with their own apps, maybe developers would take advantage of them more. On another note, I use MS Launcher on my Note 8 and I was thinking that having live tile option with the cards would be nice.
  • Agreed, Please put Live Tiles on the desktop like Windows 7 Gadgets. They were a great innovation, a hybrid between static iOS icons and busy Android Widgets.
  • I think the current compromise in Windows 10 is the best thing. I use the live tiles moderately, just keep a few of them for the mail, calendar, weather, air pollution, currency exchange. It's very simple, for me: too much information equals no information at all. It's like a webpage full of advertisement. That's why having the screen covered in tiles was a bad idea. But having a few live alerts for things that matter to you, having the chance to arrange them as you like, that's good. Also, including them in the start menu was a good idea, having them stay on the desktop would just clutter the screen. I think I like them as they are now.
  • live tiles became redundant once they added a notification center.
  • Totally disagree, the notification centre has been nothing but a pain. With notification syncing between mobile and pc you'd have thought once you had read it you wouldn't see it again but no open a different device and there it is again.
    I only open the notification centre now to delete all and never read any. Live tiles are much more usefull
  • No they didn't
  • I largely ignore my notification center. I just looked at it after reading your post and I have 42 notifications. Almost all of them are either emails I already acknowledged on my phone/in outlook, alerts telling me about appointments I already had, or my AIO telling me that the extended warranty plan I never bought has expired. I'm sure that there's a way to clean that up, but that little icon is so unintrusive, I don't even bother.
  • tbh... widget is more useful than live tiles, cause you can actually program it to do what ever you want (but eats more battery / computation if it's not carefully implemented), and live tile's screen space is limited.
  • On desktop Live Tiles are mostly useless. I have some programs I use frequently pinned as Tiles to the start menu but I could just as well have them on the desktop. Because I don't really use them to get information, I basically use them as shortcuts. Live Tiles, however, are the perfect UI for a TABLET MODE. You know. Like the one Microsoft butchered on Windows 10.
    Devices like the Surface Go would benefit immensely from a Live Tile based interface. But that would require commitment from Microsoft. Something I'm not sure exists.
  • Desktop Mode = Windows 10
    Tablet Mode = Windows 8. Now if only someone worked at Redmond with authority, access, and an emblazoned wiffle ball bat to make this happen...
    (edit: post>caffeine = nonsense)
  • The Microsoft Live tiles are best used on Windows Tablets not Desktop PC's because PC's
    are generally set to boot to the Desktop screen. you do see them when you tap the
    Windows key to get an App but only briefly. One thing I wanted Microsoft to do was allow
    a weather live tile or any live tile you want to appear on the desktop and give you
    information at a glance such outside temperature or the traffic condition,News or an
    emergency Earthquake or Tidal wave Warning so a person can get to safety out of Harms way
  • Surely set the start screen to full screen and you can see all the tiles
  • Setting the Start screen to show more tiles is a good option for sure but I wish
    that Microsoft added the option to put any live tile on the Desktop screen when you
    right click the tile icon on the Left side of Windows 10 start screen. like I said it
    would be nice to have the weather tile that updates information on your desktop
    computer's screen. This should be a new option for Windows tiles in the next
    Windows 10 big update.
  • I never understood the idea behind live tiles at all. If i choose to use a program its because i need the functionality of the program itself. I could care less about what its icon show me visually. Phone interfaces just look cluttered anyway. As someone that constantly have 2 web browsers with several tabs open, skype, teams, word, excel, outlook and one or more other program going at the same time at work live tiles bring nothing at all since the desktop is the think i look the least at when i use a computer. I also constantly switch between two work computers not to mention when i have customer computers that i work on going on at my desk at the same time. Even when using my computer at home the desktop is never visible unless i just started the computer. There is a reason the action bar is used to pin applications and that is because you have instant access to opening your most used programs and you can see them no matter how many fullscreen or windowed programs you have opened. Live tiles fails spectacularly at this.
  • So.. Back to boring grid of icons :(
  • Microsoft and abandoned are two words you'll see used frequently together
  • Well The Surface line seems to need the Live Tiles. I do agree with others. Add it to the desktop!
  • i do not even use the normal Windows ten start menu, never mind the tile, live or otherwise. i have a third party start menu
  • Even I was thinking same. Since I don't see much work on this. And MS doesn't even talk about this. There were times when even we had secondary live tiles. Windows phone central had. But things have changed. Back to boring icon days.
    Though still there are chances they will remain but we won't see much development on this. Probably coz this makes windows different. What I have even seen is from performance front is that more the live tiles u have more slow is windows to start. My office pc doesn't have much live tiles (or say tiles that are really LIVE) boots up much faster than my home systems. It would take minutes to be usable. That may be reason they omit live tiles in windows lite.
  • Sincerely hope this is only scaremongering. Live tiles are a big differentiator. Without them the whole concept of dashboard dies an win reverts back to generic windowing environment.
  • Agreed, May as well use Windows 7 if live tiles are gone
  • I love the Live Tiles. My task bar is completely empty (don't like clutter on the bottom of my screen) and the Start Menu is fully personalized and updated frequently to my needs. If it will disappear, I will need to find a solution. It's a huge part of how I use my machine.
  • I've said it before and will say it again.. Allow them on the desktop and make them more interactive like widgets
  • I never look at them or use them. One of the rare Windows 10 apps that I actually use is Microsoft News, and to find it, I look for a particular icon/tile, and with that tile constantly changing, it's an annoyance to locate, so I wish they would just go away. Useless gimmick more suitable for smart phones than for a desktop.
  • The menu getting like the one presented in the video of the new icons of office 365 is great.
  • Rather than remove them, MS could/should make them an optional feature, those that want them can have them and those who don't need them can turn them off. Everybody's happy.
  • They're not hard to disable. it's in gpedit.msc, and as I mentioned, just about every government and institution does just that. If you want to: Just do the following: Open the Start menu.
    Type gpedit.msc and hit enter.
    Navigate to Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar > Notifications.
    Double-click the Turn off tile notifications entry on the right and select enabled in the window that opens.
    Click OK and close the editor.
  • I like to keep my desktop clean, only leave the bin there. And I only pinned a few on the taskbar. All other app that I often use are pinned on the start menu. I love live tiles, it's a bother to go to start menu to see those live tiles, I want it be always there for me to see even if i don't want to (lazy to go to start menu). So, i tried use the tablet mode, my pc is not a touch device, it was the worst experience compare to desktop experience.
  • Well everyone liked WP for the fluid UI, but most of the not tech savvy people I know finding live tiles to be confusing and they didn't really had a purpose because the information they offered was useless or half shown.
  • I like the whole idea of live tiles. I wish Microsoft would make them more robust though.
    - Quick reply in the FB messenger live tile - Add calendar events from calendar live tile.
    - Let me right click and auto update downloaded apps from Microsoft’s store live tile
    - Right click on MS Word and start a new blank document
    - Right click on OneNote and start a new note
    - Right click on Spotify and start a radio station/play resume last song
    Just examples off the top of my head.
  • No need to have that home desktop, just go back to having the start screen like windows 8 had, just include the taskbar at the bottom and ensure tiles in the top left corner are there to link to my computer and recycle bin
  • I have exactly ONE thing pinned to the taskbar--chrome. Otherwise, i HATE the clutter and it's why I don't use live tiles either and I just download classic shell. so if they're 'dead' then good.
  • Live Tiles on Start Menu n Living Images in Photos r signature features endorsed by many WP users back when WP devices were king...Microsoft can't ditch the one unique feature that separates Windows from other OSes now!!!!
    The #1 distinctive concept of Win 10 is Live Tiles...n Microsoft should probably work on making the animations cleaner, tighter, smoother n more intuitive with even gesture support on Surface Pro in swiping on particular Tile to view updates from notifications...sorry Microsoft!!!!...I think ditching Live Tiles is trying to b like any other OS brand: static boring-looking grid of archaic graphical icons that just sits on home screens doing nothing but staring right at u!!!!
    If Microsoft goes ahead to ditch Live Tiles, that should b a checkmate move for the competition...which is already boring for the most part!!!!
  • I like the idea of Live Tiles in Win10 in desktop mode. The problem is they are currently buried in the Start menu, which I'm not accessing all the time. Like the internal reports, most desktop users have their most used apps pinned to the task bar.
    I would like to see the Live Tiles turn into desktop widgets, like on Android, and be given the ability to hover the mouse over the task bar/Windows icon which would make all active apps transparent & show the desktop. This would mitigate the need to downsize multiple open apps and give users the "quick glance" that the Live Tiles were intended for.
  • amazing on Windows Phone, useless on Win 10 desktop
  • So, live tiles haven't evolved - and they may therefore die. Howabout icons then? They have not evolved since c. 1990. Are they dead?
  • It depends on what I'm using. I have have Windows tablet, of which tiles are quite useful to navigate by touch, and so I use them regularly. But I don't use them on my home office tower.
  • Again, Microsoft has a great idea with no plans or people on how to make it successful. I've been a Windows die-hard fan for years. They killed Windows phone. Cortana could be more popular than Alexa by now, but that's dying. UWP was only a pipe dream. "MS... where good things go to die". Put live tiles on Launcher and see if it takes off; bet you won't. I already have static tiles on my Galaxy S9.
  • The first thing I do after installing Windows is remove all of the clutter that is "Live Tiles". Strip that sucker down...
  • Same here. It IS clutter. Moving, blinking clutter.
  • Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppXPackage I run this on just about every Windows 10 PC I encounter. It removes just about all Metro Apps that aren't essential to Windows.
  • If they really want to differentiate Windows then please try to stay unique. Keep Live Tiles and put some work into them. Remove them from the Start Menu. Treat the Start Menu as Android App Drawer. Treat Live Tiles as a (useful) form of Desktop "Widget" that is both informational AND shortcut to an application. Treat shortcuts pinned to Taskbar as "favorites bar" apps per Android launchers. This would scale to multiple form factors (Centaurus, Andromeda, and Polaris) and eliminate the need for "tablet" view. You would obviously want to make today's custom, desktop shortcuts look like Live Tiles for consistency (e.g., today's My Computer shortcut simply being an icon). You could also roll out these lives tiles as Widgets for MS Launcher on Android (b/c the widget experience in Android is terrible). BTW Gadgets were useful back in the day as others have pointed out.
  • I miss the live tiles of my Windows Phone 10. Moving to Android ecosystem, this is one of the many items I miss about my Windows Phone. Gone are the days of 'info at a glance' with Android and IOS.
  • Place some widgets on the home screen and/or pull down the notification shade. Information at a glance.
  • Love live tiles, but then again I loved Windows phones and still do, and lov ed Groove music... So what else is there to say.
  • Noooo! Live tiles are the essence of this OS. The amount of information I can grab from a quick glance at my start screen is amazing. And it allows me to otherwise keep an entirely clean desktop.
  • Zac Bowden makes a strong case that Microsoft may be thinking about getting rid of live tiles. I sincerely hope not. As others have said, it's a major differentiator. Grids of dumb icons are ubiquitous on modern OS's because they work and are simple to implement/use. But they're also a boring, limited 20th century holdover. Innovation plus the ability to customize (to some extent) to make things work the way we prefer are two of Windows 10's major strengths. Live tiles are a signature component of that reputation. Perhaps telemetry can tell you that many people are currently using taskbar and desktop shortcuts and turning/leaving the live tile feature off in their Start menus. However, it may not tell you why that's the case. The difference between a feature that's neglected out of frustration or ignorance/confusion or because it has no potential for popular use is huge. Mistaking the first two scenarios for the latter leads to consumer disillusionment, disconnect and lost opportunity. Telemetry can't measure enthusiasm lost in the first few years when the W10 Start menu and tiles had almost no customization options and general instability--to the point where you were likely to lose any changes due to a crash or update. It can’t directly identify apathy due to tile update failures that persist to this day. Raw stats also can't tell us how many users have been confused or frustrated by the awkward default group names and prominently displayed apps that are inappropriate for their use-case. Not every home user wants live tile ads, Candy Crush or even Xbox game stats on by default. And virtually no workplace wants these things. This is where intelligent configuration with a couple additional setup questions is starting to make Windows better for everyone. Judging from many divergent opinions expressed on live tiles and the Start menu in general, Microsoft should innovate more; provide more opportunity for customization not less or give up altogether. I prefer a clean desktop with limited apps pinned to the taskbar. Start menu holds all my second-tier apps. When I open the Start menu to access these apps, I glance at weather, mail, calendar, to-do and news live tiles. This happens many times a day. No other OS can do this. Please don't take it away. Live tiles don't make sense for every app or user. It's fine if only a select group of apps implements it. A lot of people are saying they’d appreciate live tiles more if they could pin some favorites to the desktop. Why not accommodate this desire? A few additional live tile features could give millions more users more reason to glance at and interact with them. Never stop innovating!
  • I really wouldn't mind if they kept a few around (weather, time, calendar) for tablet mode, but every single app being a tile just overloads the home screen. The "tile" makes the icon background more noticeable than the icon. It makes the home screen background difficult to see. Every icon has to be white so that the tile background can be a different color.
  • They should just make it same as the Microsoft launcher on Android and promote that so that there is consistency in their products across platforms.
  • Live tiles can't exist without mobile.
  • I have a clean taskbar and desktop while pinning everything to my start menu, which one is opened in fullscreen mode, just like it was in Windows 8. And I'm happy with this.
  • It frustrates me, and I because it's such an amazing feature, but they totally hamstrung it because _they never actually finished implementing it on desktop_. Nobody uses the new start menu. But live tiles would work as desktop shortcuts, or taskbar icons. And devopers would actually have an incentive to use them, if live tiles were actually somewhere that people saw. It's very disappointing, because both android and iOS are taking steps to encourage healthy usage habits, like limiting app use time. Live tiles helps with this greatly, because glancable info prevents people getting sucked into apps. Live tiles doesn't have to die... But it probably will because, yet again, Microsoft couldn't commit to an amazing feature and nobody was willing to adopt something half-baked.
  • It’s long past the time for “live” tiles to go away. What’s the point of a bunch of blue squares, all with a tiny white icon in the center? They look too much alike. Plus, not many apps have any “live” data that needs to be shown anyways. The thing about real icons is, they are iconic. You instantly recognize each by the unique shape and colors. That’s why most people prefer vivid, colorful icons over bland “live” tiles.
  • Please, don't remove another point of difference.
    I've got w10 running my htpc. A few large tiles with photos, weather, Netflix looks great. Running launcher10 on android, nice mix of live tiles and widgets
  • I think they are a much better option than the old widgets. Great way to get a quick view of tertiary information.
  • Unless you use the Start menu as your main menu (which nobody except a chosen few does) Live tiles are just useless. Most people I would bet use either search field or windows key + write what they want to open and do not even see what their live tiles are showing at the time. The Live tiles are even battery hogs to boot. Having said that in a device that starts up in the Start menu this is a great feature to have. But alas Windows tablet never became a thing for some reason (battery life?) Maybe if Windows ARM becomes a thing and people buy that device more who knows if a Windows tablet only mode could thrive.
  • I felt in love with Windows Phone 8.1 because of live tiles. And in 2015, I was so happy to find them on Windows 10 although I am using a desktop.
    Sure, reasons Zac mentioned are right but speaking to myself, live tiles are one of the singular features that make Windows 10 Windows 10.
  • About 18 months ago, I had an opportunity to talk to an MS engineer working on the Windows UI if it has ever been considered to pin live tiles to the task bar. The answer was that yes, it had been considered. However, MS wants the task bar to be static, that is, as few animations and movement as possible. Apparently usability testing had shown that animations on the task bar are perceived negatively by users as it draws away attention. Hence, no live tiles on the task bar.
  • I would have really liked to see an official Steam tile with game sales on it or new game updates. More custom news tiles. Is there a resource monitor tile out there? I think a lot of people would LOVE a tile like that. Hey how about a custom tile that shows you the notifications from a specified site instead of showing up in your notification tab. That way if it's a news site you don't miss important events on your notification tab like battery running low, work e-mail, etc.
  • If you really want to differentiate Windows then please try to stay unique. Keep Live Tiles and put some work into them. Remove them from the Start Menu. Treat the Start Menu as Android App Drawer. Treat Live Tiles as a (useful) form of Desktop "Widget" that is both informational AND shortcut to an application. Treat shortcuts pinned to Taskbar as "favorites bar" apps per Android launchers. This would scale to multiple form factors (Centaurus, Andromeda, and Polaris) and eliminate the need for "tablet" view. You would obviously want to make today's custom, desktop shortcuts look like Live Tiles for consistency (e.g., today's My Computer shortcut simply being an icon). You could also roll out these lives tiles as Widgets for MS Launcher on Android (b/c the widget experience in Android is terrible). BTW Gadgets were useful back in the day...
  • Microsoft has always sucked at making program launchers... remember “program manager” from windows 3.1?? That program really sucked... there was about 20 companies make alternative program launchers...all of them better... fast forward 30 years, and live tiles tprogram launcher still sucks just as much as windows 3.1 “program manger” and “Microsoft bob”... I think Microsoft should just go back in time and find an old program launcher alternative and copy it... ;-) since nobody wastes time trying to improve windows any more with so many other alternatives in. operating systems that are not windows.
  • What they really need are Google's apps, supported via the store. If Google actually had REAL apps (like an actual real YouTube app with a live tile) I'm sure many Devs would follow suit! Also the taskbar should get an update. There's that feature on MS Launcher on Android that automatically organizes your most used apps. Imagine having that feature for the taskbar! If apps automatically pinned for you, and would sort themselves in and out (based off usage) all in one neat organized row. Your most used apps would appear towards the left, and would eventually get knocked off at the right, as the user doesn't use that app anymore. Or, an option to make it go in reverse. That would make the taskbar like 10x more useful!
  • Only if it is configurable. MacOS does this - moves apps around on the taksbar. I hate that. Leave it where it is so I don’t have to search for it. On Windows, I have everything exactly where I want it. I do NOT want Windows moving things around for me.
  • "The only noteworthy addition to live tiles from a developer standpoint has been the ability to jump straight into something that was being shown on a live tile." WRONG! Microsoft recently added the ability to pin secondary tiles to the taskbar (in addition to the Start Menu, which was already supported). Technical guidance is available on their web site at Even the ability of an app to pin its own primary tile to the taskbar was only added in Windows 10 1709.
  • I think live tiles have a prominent place in windows and are part of the further devolopment of the next wave of windows 10. Microsoft can do mire with live tiles. I still use live tiles as my daily driver on my windows 10 devices. I don't think windows 10 is dead. They just have an enormous backlog of half baked gmfeatures that need a dressing. Microsoft has shown me they are busy. For example very recently Microsoft has finally decided to support full dark mode to the email apo. This has been on my feedback as wish list for 4 years. Microsoft said they were in it for the long game. I think some things are taking too long. If live tiles are dead, I think microsoft should be quick in implementing it. I think MSFT would be better served to business and gamers and leave the consumers with android and iOS
  • Windows live tiles are very nice, but you have to fond overall design
    It's more exiting for some only ?
    Use the scrolls to right ou left
    They have to be worked on computer with other bars
  • On my Lumia 950 XL they are very much alive 🐱‍👤😀😎