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This concept artist has fixed the Windows 11 Start Menu

Windows 11 Start Menu Widgets
Windows 11 Start Menu Widgets (Image credit: Gusion Claude)

Source: Daniel Rubino / Windows Central (Image credit: Source: Daniel Rubino / Windows Central)

The Windows 11 Start Menu sucks. At least in my humble opinion. The lack of customizability is a travesty for a company as big as Microsoft, particularly while working on a feature as important and embedded as the Start Menu.

In Windows 11, Microsoft is killing off Windows 8 and 10's Live Tile system, in favor of a simpler phone-like app icon interface, complete with a recommended box that surfaces files you may (or, may not) want to use. I get why they've done it this way — the Live Tile interface was too complicated for regular users. Finding apps that supported Live Tiles properly was not easy, and even then, configuring them to actually work for you can be a chore. As an IT guy in a previous life, I know all too well how virtually nobody in my organization bothered to customize their Live Tile setups, leading me to eventually just disable them via group policy.

What if there was another way, though? A way that could bridge the gap between customization and functionality? This simple but obvious change was explored recently by Gusion Claude, who emailed us this compelling concept below.

In my previous article on the topic, I lamented the fact that much of the Live Tile at-a-glance information I've enjoyed for the past several years is being moved out to a separate panel, which I will most likely end up never using. I argued that the widgets should be present in the actual Start Menu, and Claude has essentially delivered on that idea.

Removing the horribly unconfigurable recommended box, Claude's Start Menu vision bridges the gap between Windows 11's elegant simplicity and Windows 10's configurable and informational design. Many apps simply do not need live tiles, like Microsoft Word, Photoshop, and so on. But I really enjoyed the Weather tile, the Photos tile, and the Calendar tile in particular. Some of that functionality remains in the new widgets panel in Windows 11, but as I said, it's an extra, unnecessary click.

I have no idea if Microsoft has even built the Start Menu with these kinds of capabilities in mind, but if their design teams had forethought, this is exactly how the Start Menu would work on Windows 11. Give me the option to combine the widgets panel and the Start Menu into a single customizable feed, you know, like my phone that you're clearly trying to emulate.

Source: Windows CentralThe official Windows 11 Start Menu, lame and uncustomizable. (Image credit: Source: Windows Central)

If you want Windows 11 to be familiar to phone users, which is where I think some of this design ideology comes from, you need to make it as customizable as my phone too, Microsoft.

I'm sure none of this will happen in reality, with the more likely outcome being that Microsoft eventually just kills the widgets panel due to the fact nobody will use it. I'm sure people would use widgets if they were part of the Start Menu, though. Alas, one can dream.

Jez Corden
Jez Corden

Jez Corden is a Senior Editor for Windows Central, focusing primarily on all things Xbox and gaming. Jez is known for breaking exclusive news and analysis as relates to the Microsoft ecosystem while being powered by caffeine. Follow on Twitter @JezCorden and listen to his Xbox Two podcast, all about, you guessed it, Xbox!

79 Comments
  • I really wish they had kept the customizable start menu. It makes so much more sense. I think the larger issue is Microsoft is still thinking more business then consumers and customization isn't a thing for business... The attempt to use "teams" in a consumer facing product is just stupid and will fail. I want to leave teams at "work" not play... Same UI and backend? Fine... Just rebrand teams for consumers (Microsoft chat is fine - just stick with it) lol... The idea of having recent documents for work purposes is important for people who look at multiple files per day... But I don't need that for play.... Again... They need to get in the mind of the CONSUMER.... The widget panel is a complete mess... It just looks like a msn.com website and what bothers me the most is using it isn't supposed to detract me... However - if you click on an article in the panel it opens a whole other browser... That's just dumb. Keep it in the panel... Live tiles should be available in the widget if nowhere else.... Hopefully the former Google VP can get MS to think about consumers and not just business...
  • "They need to get in the mind of the CONSUMER" Why? Consumers don't buy Windows. Businesses do. Consumers have phones and iPads. MS knows where their money comes from. MS is NOT a consumer products company. They HAVE to cater to businesses. "Hopefully the former Google VP can get MS to think about consumers and not just business..." MS already tried to go after consumers. It was all a horrible failure. Phones, MP3 players, watches, music service, etc. All long gone, AND lost billions of dollars. MS right now is in the best financial shape in its history. They got there by forgetting the consumer market and focusing on businesses. That's what successful companies do. Focus on your strengths.
  • Oh go away. Customisability can also used by It departments to have business specific apps on the start menu. If you want to talk about loss, Skype is also a 9 billion dollar+ lost cause. Also you are being incredibly disingenuous. The surface also had a billion dollar write down, A billion was spent fixing and making good on the xbox rrod. Both divisions are now extremely profitable for Microsoft. Just because certain things don't fit your luddite agenda. Doesn't mean they don't exist lol.
  • I have to disagree about skype. People need to understand MS is a corporate first organization and they implemented Skype in their business model even thought it seems to be dead amongst consumers. Never forget that. MS is a milti billionaire organization that think and work with consumers in the second place.
  • So they made a concept for the Start Menu to just look like Android. There's nothing to say your Apps and Widgets have to be on the same screen. Windows 11 just puts them on two. No big deal.
  • This is big deal. They have effectivelly hidden them.
  • You can customise the Windows 11 Start Menu. Your own screenshot shows several ways to do this. In some ways it's more customisable. The Windows 10 Start Menu doesn't let you pin files.
  • How so? First of all there is no Widget support in Windows 11 Start menu, so I don't get it how you can replicate from that image. It is no more customisable that WIndows 10. The Start menu of Windows 11 doesn't allow you to make folders, group icons, and use Jump List (a Windows 7 feature). Windows 10 Start menu allows you pin File Explorer folders and Windows 11 doesn't allow you to pin files, just folders like on Windows 10 does, but not much more. At best what you can only do on Windows 11 Start menu:
    - Pin apps and folders (from File Explorer)
    - Drag them around
    - Access basic context menu (no Jump List)
    - Uninstall UWP apps (or for WIn32, opens Control Panel)
    - Recommeded Section (but not hide them)
    - Customize the system folders bar at the bottom of the menu, just moved from the left from Windows 10.
    - Search (but it is just a button to seperate Search flyout.
  • How so? - 1. You can Pin Apps
    2. You can Pin Documents
    3. You can create Folders on the All Apps submenu, not sure if they've said if you'll be able to have folders on the Main Page yet.
    4. You can Add/Remove a shortcut to folders like My Documents etc... No customisation? Hmm. you'll be able to customise it. You can't do a whole lot more with the Windows 10 Start Menu. Live Tile customization went because Live Tiles went. Maybe you can't have Folders on the Main Page now. Okay fair enough.
  • "First of all there is no Widget support in Windows 11 Start menu, so I don't get it how you can replicate from that image." Not that image, the Windows 11 Start Menu. Remarkably my comment doesn't mention Widgets. No you can't because there's no need. There's a dedicated Widgets button instead. Nothing says they have to share the same screen. "It is no more customisable that WIndows 10." So it's not any worse then. "The Start menu of Windows 11 doesn't allow you to make folders, group icons, and use Jump List (a Windows 7 feature)." You can make folders. Group Icons and Folders are the same feature. Didn't know you can't access Jump Lists but I expect it was a rarely used feature. Jump Lists still exist on the Taskbar where they're better suited. But fair enough, agreed they have some worth on the Start Menu too. "Windows 10 Start menu allows you pin File Explorer folders" Shown in the Windows 11 Start Meny screenshot above, so must be possible. I doubt it's used much though. It's better suited to access File Explorer folders from File Explorer. It's duplicated functionality. "At best what you can only do on Windows 11 Start menu:" This is a pretty long list, that's about as long as on Windows 10.
  • Windows 8.1 start menu is the best. Windows 11 is ugly so I'm sticking with windows 10
  • I've had a Surface tablet for years and I've always run it in Windows 10 Tablet Mode. I can't for the life of me understand how using a tablet (as a tablet) with Windows 11's desktop/Start menu could in any way compare favourably with Tablet Mode. Not that any of my current Windows devices are eligible for a Windows 11 upgrade, but I definitely wouldn't be putting Windows 11 on any tablet of mine if it meant interacting with the device using that Windows 11 UI.
  • I was concerned about the no tablet mode too at first but MS actually made Windows 11 WAY more touch friendly than 10 was normally.
  • What, ? Seriously, this is not good at all!!
  • Admins/Mods - I accidentally reported this comment; did not mean to. It happened while I was scrolling through, and I evidently hit the wrong touch target.
  • Calendar, Inbox, To-Do and Weather were 4 glanceable live tiles that I really miss. Having them as more functional widgets that you could place in locations where you might actually see them on a regular basis - be it the desktop or the start screen - is what makes them 'glanceable.' Hidding them off screen in other elements of the UI causes me to just want to open the app itself.
  • If Microsoft decides to implement this, the first thing I will do is to remove the widgets from it. It wastes a lot of space. After the death of live tiles, the current start menu looks better to me (with the exception of the recommended section of course).
  • Isn't it great that you would be able to?
  • Why would Microsoft implement something a random guy in the Internet makes in his free time???????? Peopl don't understand that MS does have professionals working for them, people who can do these mockups too, and decide to do the things they end up releasing for a reason??
  • Mock up mean nothing when you hit a blank in code.
    When they designed this for Win10X (chrome book with touch), there was no need to factor in things like drag and drop to taskbar because that function was not required.
    Now that Win10X is integral to general Windows, they can't code drag and drop into it without doing long term gymnastics. So that feature may be two years away.
  • Would these be the same "experts" that came up with the Windows 8.0 UI for PCs, so widely reviled that many PC owners simply didn't bother to install it and stuck with Windows XP or 7 until 10 came along?
  • This is just making an already useless start menu more useless by putting those widgets in there. IMO Windows 10 has the best Start menu ever, with the option to have app list/live tiles or both.
  • Does not fix the start menu for me, I am happy with it as it is... Simple and functional, I don't need widgets cluttering it up...
  • Yeah... No he didn't.
  • You know, I see so many comments with hate for the Recommended section, but my hope is that there's a bit of AI behind it. Perhaps, over time, it learns your work flow and becomes a major step-saver. Such as: it learns your most-used apps, and offers up the most recent or most edited for just those. This would save me all kinds of time every day. Fingers crossed...
  • Yeah, I thought the Recommended section actually have some smarts on it, but basically it simply acts a recent items of everything. Not sure if there is really an AI on it, though it was supposed to be the Timeline but removed thumbnails (RIP) and made it as a simple list and without websites this time. But Timeline advantage compared to simple recent items as it was syncing on the cloud, so you can actually resume activity from another PC that was sync with Timeline and reopen whatever that was last worked on, beyond just opening a file. Recommended section doesn't seems to or at least I haven't found it was working like that.
  • It doesn't matter how smart Microsoft claims that list is, if it doesn't show you what you want then it is useless (to you). Don't force users to see it if they don't want it.
  • Instead of cluttering small start menu with widgets why not Just provide optional full screen app launcher with dedicated confined infinite vertical scrollable space for widgets like ipad os 14 style today view. Also let user put widgets straight to desktop like app icon shortcuts. So that anybody can remove it or put it as they want.
  • He somehow figured out how to make it worse. He just made the section for applications smaller. The lack of any ability to organize your applications is the biggest problem with the start menu, not the lack of widgets. Having widgets in its own pane is one thing they did right.
  • So, by your admission, iOS is doing it wrong.. lol. I think it's a great job by the artist.
  • These articles are dumb. The guy who did this hasn't "fixed" anything, because it's not his role to solve anything about it outside Microsoft's organization. It's just make believe. The idea behind these posts is that some armchair designer comes with a magical solution everybody likes. But of course the guy who comes up with the "solution" is not constrained by the real context and the pressures that the design team has while actually doing the REAL work in MS. If this cool guy who always easily "solves" the design problems MS products have worked actually INSIDE Microsoft, he wouldn't be able to do things that way. Also, if these design heroes are so good, why aren't they the ones Microsoft hired already? Gee, something must be wrong with big bad MS.
  • Those concepts are coming from designers to hone their skills and explore their creativity, they do this because they want to their own take how to design stuff. Microsoft don't hire them because they already have one, unless they gain too much traction and they will notice (Some designers making concepts sharing on Twitter already recognized by Microsoft, who knows what they will eventually get an intership or something). It is not dumb, this is an editorial piece and does have a point out some of the issues whether you disagree or not. Not everything in Microsoft is right nor everything is wrong. But take a look of Windows 8 when it was developed, they made bad execution irregardless if they have good intentions or ideas behind it, Microsoft is not infalliable. Those "armchair designers" are likely already working in the design industry and just did their hobby or a student doing their own personal projects and just decided to share them, because they can. At least they make something and actually explore solutions instead of just accepting whatever the rain fall on us.
  • I think that mockup of a start menu stuffed with widgets looks awful. App launcher areas and widget areas are distinct on mobile devices, but on a PC this concept suggests they have to be crammed into one area while using a fraction of the available screen? That's bad design. This concept artist has made a worse Windows 11 start menu.
  • Please no. Keep the widgets in the side panel.
    The start menu is for apps. I like how it is now.
  • This concept looks better? Not to me. Widgets and icons mixed up randomly all over the place! Widgets on one side and icons on the other side would've been much better.
  • Though I haven't gone to read up more on the designer's work, my take (read: assumption) on this idea is that the intention would be for the user to have control over the layout of the menu, including the placement of the icons and widgets on it (à la the Windows 10 Mobile start screen). The included screen shot is just one layout for example purposes. If you wanted widgets on one side and icons on the other, you'd be free to arrange the menu as you wish.
  • Without program groups or folders no additional "Window" dressing will help. No sale.
  • The best solution will be to make the start menu full screen with swiping pages.
    You could customise your pages YOURSELF.
    E.g. Make the first page icons only, then the second page widgets.
  • What you're saying makes sense if you have BEGINNER MODE and ADVANCED MODE. Really that would solve all sorts of problems. Beginner mode would drive advanced users crazy and we'd already know to turn on Advanced Mode. Maybe the system wouldn't even offer Advanced Mode until it sensed you were Advanced.
  • Are we going to go all in on an Android/iPadOS fusion? Really?
  • Oh good, another start menu design that people aren't going to bother customizing.
  • I suspect part of the problem with the Windows 10 Start menu was that Microsoft insisted on loading it up with a pile of random junk on new Windows 10 installs. Many of the average Windows users may have seen that, didn't want to figure out how to customise the menu, assumed the whole menu was of no use to them, and just got used to putting shortcuts on the desktop or pinning their favourite apps to the task bar. Perhaps if the Start menu started out as only a recent/all apps list and if you wanted anything else on it it would be up to you to customise the menu, then it might not have left so many users with a bad impression.
  • Nailed it, JM. "Many of the average Windows users may have seen that, didn't want to figure out how to customize the menu." To be fair to these users the fairly pretty Start Menu wasn't at all easy to manipulate. I used to joke it was like a game of Tetrus, but fun. Later I realized most users want it to 'just work' instead of being a challenge. The individual who offered 'folders' to that Start Menu should have been executed. The idea of folders is critical and necessary for 11. But the execution was horrible. It was really easy to accidentally create a folder and really hard to get those items back out. I also experienced a bug where if I placed my Recycle Bin in the Start Menu it didn't play well with my LibreOffice apps after they updated. The bug is still there and good ol' Windows left it there because why fix things when you can instead introduce a whole new solution... that isn't finished either.
  • iOS, Android attempt to copy Livetiles by adding widgets. So, Microsoft drops Livetiles and make the Start Menu soooo less functional by adding an additional menu to add widgets. Quicklaunch is gone. And there is no way to open the Task Manager without typing. This is not a good thing!
  • For Task Manager, right-click the Start button.
    I know it isn't as quick as just right-clicking the taskbar, but it isn't that bad once you're used to it.
  • But widgets have been around much longer than Live Tiles has.
  • I "love" how people hate the ability to do something that they would not use. Microsoft should get rid of people with these exact qualities from its designers and architects.
  • Ah yes, the "if I don't like it/can't see how it could possibly be useful then it simply shouldn't exist and to hell with anyone who likes such a stupid idea" crowd. It almost seems as if they think Windows has THEIR name on it, and if Microsoft were to incorporate someone else's ideas that would be some sort of attack on their personal space.
  • Yes and no. What apparently is very difficult for designers is keeping all the good ideas WHILE fixing all the bad ones. That image looks promising but -- 1. Now there's only 9 apps visible instead of 16. REMEMBER: some peeps are complaining 16 is not enough. If and when there's broad Android app support that will be keenly felt. 2. The idea of incorporating widgets within Start was already smart when it was called Live Tiles, so it is nice to see it back. But this still does not address the reason it was removed. Sadly most users do not want the 'burden' of choosing which widgets to have and where they must be placed. (Oh the humanity!) As a person who offers people device support it's amazing how disconnected 90% of users are. It's as if they get in a car's drivers seat and can't believe someone is asking them to drive THEIR car. So. Choice. First of all -- all widgets should be on the left. Because this 'apps over here/over there' look is even bothering me. Widgets left, apps right. If you make that choice for the lazy user -- they don't have to. (Bury deep in settings the option to apps left, widgets right. Only advanced users will discover this.) Next, this start menu still fails to include app folders. You know. That thing on all of computing and smartphones but not in Windows 11. Also, the ability to scroll down to other apps should be put back. And the all apps button should be removed. (The above are NOT opinions. This is the consensus response I've seen. From this point forward I'm pivoting to opinions.) 3. I've been starting to think that the Start Menu should always 'wait' for you when you're not using the PC. What do I mean? Well what good is having a weather widget IF it's hiding until you click something? Similarly, wouldn't it be nice to have the date and time bigger in your start menu? Same with notifications? Follow me here. You're just back from lunch. Your screen is black. You tap a key and the lock screen offers you the time, date, weather, a list of notifications, and a log on field. Before anyone panics -- a. I believe notifications as currently designed make no sense. I don't want to have to click a button to see them. I want a notification to reach me. Now -- instead of wasting the time of dismissing notifications -- they do it automatically when you log in. I don't mean they're all checked off and removed. I mean you can simply no longer see them. The only way to see them again is to hit the Start Button, where -- they show up as a floating area, say, to the right of the start menu. As notifications come in, the old ones are auto dismissed. There would be a really simple way to dismiss this feature ON the Start Menu. The point is that, if you want, you need not ever click that corner to see what's there. It would always be there on the Lock Screen and the Start Menu, but nowhere else. (Unless there was may a notifications app that would open big and drown one in all notifications past and present and even be searchable. I don't need that but this would help fix issues arising from notifications dismissing themselves.) b. In the concept image you'll note the time and date are gone from the taskbar. Looks nice, doesn't it. I believe they are poorly designed. I'd rather they were moved to the Start Menu. Maybe in that bottom bar by the power button. Speaking of that -- c. I'd turn that power button into 3 to 4 power buttons (Sleep, Hib, Shut Down, Restart) and have them hover vertically on the left side of the Start Menu. The way 10 sort of handles it right now. (Speaking of lunch, I need one. I'm going to post this monster as is and REPLY with even more TLDR>)
  • I like your ideas.
  • Thanks for being so Catty. Or is something Fishy going on here? It's nice to know I didn't waste all the time.
  • " And the all apps button should be removed. " That I disagree with. The all apps button doesn't exist if you don't run Start full screen, as you get the full list of all apps installed on the left by default, pinned tiles on the right, in 2 seperately scrollable sections. But for anyone like myself who uses Start full screen in Win 10, only pinned tiles are shown by default when you press the Win key - pinned tiles and all apps are the 2 view options but are seperated out into 2 separate buttons, not combined together as they are when you don't use Start full screen. It makes sense to have the all apps button when so few apps are available to be pinned to the start menu in 11. The problem is that you can't group pinned apps into folders, and the all apps list is only available alphabetically. Neither are suitable options and I agree that neither is acceptable (though for my parents and in-laws, I can see Win 11 being a significant upgrade as the browser is good enough for them). The all apps button is a necessary carry over. It's unfortunate though for anyone like myself who has hundreds of tiles pinned to the start menu (in my case, I use Start a a game launcher so that games from Steam/gog/manual install/Windows store are all treated agnostically and I can launch any game from the same place without having to go to the store app first - that's going to be as problem if I update to Win 11).
  • Hey Skydiver -- Sometimes I feel like I'm TLDR'ing into the void. So I kinda stopped to make sure my continued comments weren't invisible. When I said 'the all apps button should be removed" I didn't explain the replacement. (I have in other threads but forgot to here.) I believe the apps in the start menu should essentially exist within a scrollable apps draw as well. What does THAT mean? a. MS needs to offer as many possible places for apps in the start menu, to prevent people from needing the app drawer. (I'm an Android user and thanks to Nova I've set my home screen up to have everything I typically need. My next screen has some goodies and then access to an app drawer. But my goal is to put all needed apps on screens one and two.) b. So suppose it offered 12 spots and expanded to 18 after that. In either scenario if must scroll to find obscure apps -- perhaps - it reveals an alphabetized series of app icons with that handy CLICK A LETTER to jump through the list. Perhaps the start menu morphs wider when this happens -- only showing apps. c. Most users believe the window that shows 'all apps' wastes an enormous amount of space. That's where I was coming from, to be clearer. "The problem is that you can't group pinned apps into folders" Correct
  • I know Windows Vista wasn’t great by any means, but the desktop widgets were a smart addition. Bring those back MS! As always… show me your shrimps!!!
  • Nah... The design of the original Windows 11 is just fine. Don't care about my OS looking like a scuffed knock off Android. They can keep their mock up.
  • Thanks Jez for writing this. Yeah, it is a shame that we could have something like this, but I think why Widgets is now on a seperate pane is to do with others sentiments wanting to not have one in the Start menu, even though can have an approach not having Widgets in there by default. Also for other customization, they really lack folders, grouping and Jumplist features that Windows 10 had. Even for users who don't use Live Tiles, this is another pain points that is missing. It is just plain too limited Start menu that Windows 7 is even way better than this. For now, what Microsoft can just do at least to keep the Widgets more functional is to allow them to be pinned on the Desktop, sharing with the desktop icons. This way, user can have always visible Widgets in the background. Of course for those who don't want it can just not pin them in the first place. The problem with seperated pane of Widgets is that it requires a concious effort to open them, which means not always for glance and go. But another big problem really is how it is currently implemented, not just the lack of 3rd-party support which is a big deal, but beacuse it is just plainly an MSN Start.com page on the shell and it doesn't work offline, even with Widgets that in principle, should work without internet like Calendar, To-Do, Photos. They don't even open the native app installed on the PC. Currently I don't find them useful at all and its slow to use. I'm afraid about Widgets getting killed due to low usage, which is hugely blame to poor implementation. It is an afterthought in Windows 11. Considering Windows 10X didn't even have any widgets system at all. They just decided to kill the Live Tiles and remove the codes of it from Windows 11, instead of improving Live Tiles to be a Widget, which in turn we can still re-use existing Live Tiles until they are upgraded to Widgets.
  • This is really classic Microsoft with their knee jerk reaction. But this time they have decided to appease the lowest common denominator. Pinnable live tiles / widgets to the desktop is the only way forward. As Microsoft could still have dedicated widgets drawer open up if the pinned live tiles/widgets are covered by applications. Plus allowing uses to aet spaces around the edges of the screen where applications cannot overlay / overlap - which could be used to housed widgets/live tiles/icons etc would allow for more custom work flows. Thus making users more productive. People need to have options and choices how they work with an o/s not less. If people don't want to use them then fine, they can not use them and keep their idiotic sense of entitlement to themselves. The rest of us want more flexibility in our workflows tyvm.
  • Eh. Start Menu has been useless for years, it just creates extra unnecessary steps. taskbar or desktop for me.
  • Agreed. I haven't used the start menu in 20 years. I have apps pinned to the quick launch area of the taskbar.
  • I prefer my start menu to be full screen, so I have plenty of space to organize my stuff. replacing tiles with widgets is a fine idea (though tiles looked more visually consistent than do most android widgets) but I absolutely need customizability in placing of my icons for launching.
  • I use start full screen as well. (I hate a taskbar cluttered with closed apps. It's a task bar, not a show-stuff-I'm-not-tasking-on-bar) I also have had my taskbar on the right side for 10 years; ever since widescreen monitors came about. This gave me a list view to organize things I'm working on. I pinned my active project folders to start menu so I could access them quickly. Argh, Microsoft why?? A metaphor to explain the nonsense of this would be imagine Microsoft were a car company in 1994. Like all manufacturers they replaced the tape deck with a CD player. but then they also removed the pause, skip and rewind buttons as well. Yes CD's are better than tapes, but given the choice of Microsoft's "Solution" of no ability to skip and pause, I'll keep the tape deck. When tech advances, you update and expand. Not update and restrict. It's like Microsoft is afraid of succeeding in a pure way. They always promise something amazing then one last "feature" ruins it all making the whole thing undesirable. The photos app and the print dialog are two apps that did similar things. They looked shiny and new but removed useful functionality. If the telemetrics tell you that the majority of people don't use a feature, well they won't use it. But for the few who need those features, you've screwed them and they'll find another app, or in the case of Windows 11 they'll keep the old or find a different OS.
  • Would the widgets actually launch the apps they are associated with when clicked or tapped? That would make this perfect for me. There's nothing complicated about Live Tiles: they're just widgets that can also launch their apps.
  • Hardly any one is going to use Windows 11's widgets if they can't find the widgets that are useful to them, and those widgets aren't going to exist if 3rd-party developers can't make them. For widgets to "survive" -- let alone thrive -- on Windows 11, Microsoft must publish the API so other developers can produce their own. The idea will die if Microsoft is left solely in charge of them.
  • Tha's a Bingo!
  • Widgets like calendar and todo don't work with a business account either. Will only work with your Microsoft account. I own a small business and use my pc for work and personal use. Will not sync my needed work items to widgets. So they are worthless
  • Yay! idiotic luddites who have no concept of choice and options have regressed us back decades in terms of Iconography and input progression. Damned morons, could have just turned the live tiles off and used small tiles. But nooo, had to ruin it for the rest of us. I have zero patience for idiots who impose their ignorance on others. The new widgets panel will still be like the live tiles on the start menu in 10 - you still have to press a button to see them. So, what have their idiotic clamourings really resolved? Nothing, now we have the worst “solution” of all. As I said time and time again, appeasement never works.
  • "I have zero patience for idiots who impose their ignorance on others."
    I pledge to install your Os as soon it is ready just send out the invite
  • I definitely like Gusion CLaude's approach to the start menu! Definitely better than the actual one. It gives the best of both worlds, like mentioned in the article; the apps that don't need Live! Tile/Widget function remain as icons, while the ones that could benefit from the Live!/Widget function, can not only take advantage of that but make the Start Menu looks more alive.
  • I love this concept. As long as the menu is resizable.
  • Don't update to Windows 11. The more that don't the more MS is forced to listen to the customer.
    I want my bar on the Top. Can't do that either. 11 is really terrible. just stay away from it. turn off TPM 2.0 and your system will never get it.
  • Advocating a coup against win11?... Good luck
  • So it should look like iPadOS in a window? Really?
  • There needs to be an option to cluster or group apps, even Android etc has this. Also weird folders cannot be pinned to the start menu.
  • Totally agree! Start11 from Stardock even looks better than the win 11 start but still missing customization. Start in windows 11 is a huge step backwards.
  • Nah. I might need some customization features but not like the picture you shared OMO.
  • No worries, Windows 10 will be around for at least 10 more years. Windows 11 will be like Windows ME, just a sad transition to a better Windows 12.
  • Windows 10's support ends on October 14th, 2025.
  • yes! and full screen mode / possibly almost full screen
  • That's even more crap. Frankly, the start menu was at its prime in Windows 7. Everything else was downhill. No one wanted it fullscreen touchscreen ****, live tiles, or a chrome os ****. If you can't improve it just don't mess with it.