Lenovo COO says it has no plans for Windows phones, doubts Microsoft's future support for OS
Lenovo's Chief Operating Officer Gianfranco Lanci says that the company has no plans to launch a Windows smartphone, and doesn't have much confidence that Microsoft will support the OS in the future.
Lenovo is one of the biggest hardware supporters for Windows 10 on the PC and tablet side, and in 2015 the company did announce plans to launch a Windows phone in its home country of China that never materialized. Earlier this year, it was revealed that Lenovo was making a Windows 10 Mobile phone, the SoftBank 503LV, for release in Japan this year or in early 2017.
However, if Lanci is to be believed, those plans have now changed. The Next Web quotes him as saying:
Microsoft, for its part, has stated repeatedly it plans to continue developing and supporting Windows 10 Mobile, and even revealed some future improvements for the OS last week at its Ignite IT conference that could be released sometime in early 2017.
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nor do we know whether there will be a "Surface Phone" or whatever. And yes, the Lumia 950 is a great phone.
I'll stick with it for a while.
Maybe, next, they produce an ARM SoC for Apple. Who knows what Apple is up to in the mobile market.
Maybe they come up with a iPad Pro / MacBook hybrid running on ARM,
maybe they will use a tailor-mad x86 SoC. In 2-3 years it will be a different world, that is all we know for sure.
Of other projects we have no knowledge of.
Why would anybody buy a W10M phone when they can do the same on Android/iOS via cloud??? see... thats the problem of this platform
If you compare that to a notebook from old days, it is out-performing it.
Look at Windows 10 new settings, photos, groove, skype, office, edge, file manager.... everything. Every app is very immature yet, but they've just started this journey, and they're planning to replace everything, to NOT stay dependent on the x86 apps. I'm not saying that I do/don't support it.
BTW all this didn't struck me but only when I read your comment. :/ And maybe that's why MS is saying continuum is the future... Because Eventually it will be... I guess.
However, you are refering to the consumer market. In the enterprise market Lenovo is missing the boat,
leaving many things to HP who do have an SKU that supports their strategy. .
although I would like it to be the case. Windows Phone - or rather W10M -,
according to Microsoft's new strategy, is an enterprise game. It will be all about apps that connect directly to Azure,
which is much more that just a "regular" cloud. It will be about security and (internal) corporate/enterprise apps (which those will create for themselves). It's about integration into a an enterprise IT-scape
and it about seemless integration into (hybrid) Azure clould. And what is more,
it all is totally not about a "phone", a portable gambling/gaming gadget and the like.
It is about a mobile corporate terminal that also support telephony etc..
My Lumia 950 was pretty darn cheap.
Worth every Euro I paid for it and more.
(the SnapChat/Pokemon point of view),
which in this case is irrelevant.
because Lenovo in this respect Lenovo finds itself in a very disadvantagous position against HP. Every single HP Elite 3 sold to an enterprise customer poses a business threat to Lenovo. So, if you don't have anything and are two years behind in a certain aspect
it is best to create some FUD. Try to drive away customers (especially direct A-acounts) from the idea of using W10M devices. FUD is cheap. And media absolutely loves it.
FUD is better than any real news. Whatever:
Lenovo is afraid to loose big direct customers to competition (HP in that case). . *(I have a ThinkPad 8, which was not made for W10, and it is a desaster with W10).
And that is why he gets his bones.
Never have been, never will be. In IT, this is the best mindset you can have.
Therefore I apply this mindset to other contenders as well. Having said that, Microsoft is communicating to enterprises entirely different.
They are communicating directly, and in person, with their customers. So, we do not know what is going on "behind the scenes".
It is behind the scenses because we are not part of the communication that goes on there.
And most people proably also would be bored to death by it as it is none of their business, literally. The enterprise market is not getting into a crace about Pokemon nor Snapchat
or the latest version of a ego-shooter game etc.. Different world ... .
Business applications, so to speak.
Currently, AR and VR are too expensive for the masses,
and as of now there are no real convincing killer applications for the consumer world
other than amazing people of what technology can / could do. For business / industrial use AR and VR are way more promising
and certain market segments can shoulder high costs. I guess that AR and VR will first need to be perfected in the professional arena
and once technology gets even better and costs come down
AR and VR can make a broader entry into the consumer space. .
That is what we know for sure. Regarding everything else, MS pretty much keeps things unpleasantly "indifferent" and kind of open.
but they only tell people who have singed a high-level NDA. It's not for us, it's for enterprise.
The people who need to know, do know (already).
And they keep mum.
Hmmm, I do not know. Chinese poeple I know never ever made any comments in that direction. Maybe some Chinese reader should speak up about this. Normally they just ignore this kind of talk, have better things to do ...
Let's see how it will work out. The city of Munich moved from Windows to Linux many years ago.
After all those years it seems to work seamlessly.
Other than that you do not hear much about it, not many have followed suite. Private Russian business will stay away from the offical government recommendation
as much as they can.
(Q2/Q3 2017, maybe even later), Lenovo will resell this MS device to their enterprise customers. HP is already knocking on the doors of the major direct Lenovo accounts.
Tough s.... they do not have a product to compete, somehow need to bridge those 2 years
and create some FUD to win time. .
A Lenovo machine that comes with a certain varitety of a 32-UEFI BIOS
will remain restricted to 32-Bit OSes for good. Nothing one can do but to purchase a new machine. .
What they say and what they do is completely different. Starting with slow OS development, adding features to the apps on other platforms first, removing Nokia developed features and coming up with their own implementations which are half as good, killing their own developed apps. And with the market share crashing at 1% or less no one believes them at this point, not even their fans probably. But it's their own doing.
The Enterprise focus BS won't fly. There will come a point when not even companies will want a phone that won't even have an updated Teamviewer app.
All of my family are using Windows phone, 6 devices. I was waiting for a mid range devices like L640 to upgrade the kids before anyone cries 650, they need to realize that phone, unlocked, runs on limited network. I love Windows Phone but at this point its hopeless.
Preview is not for everyone, works fine for me. So far.
you really might be much better off with a nice Android phone
like a Huawei or a OnePlus phone. .
Mobile is the future, so it is an easy guess that some day the Windows Mobile branch will take the lead in development over desktop and then the phase out of the desktop branch, while dropping "Mobile" as a name qualifier.
you will put your smarphone aside
and use some "real" IT. Even it does not support Snapchat or whatever.
That's what you have your smartphone for.
W10M Market Share: Plummeting.
Windows 10 Market share: Down. Windows 10 Mobile market share is a drop in a bucket. Lenovo can make a moderately crappy Android phone and outsell Windows 10 Mobile flagship handsets. It's a numbers game and they are playing to win. But hey, Microsoft executives are still getting their multi-million dollar bonuses, so things must be OK over in Redmond.
Which will/might be a problem for its enterprise business.
So create some FUD and try and protect your business as best as possible. Microsoft is communicating to their enterprise customers directly (in person via a Key Account Manager),
this communication is private between both parties. As it is usually the case.
Anything else is usually considered a betrayal of trust. So we do not hear much at all.
Same holds true for HP and their customers,
and of course it also applies to Lenovo and their communications and meetings with their direct customers. The very fact, that the Lenovo CEO steps forward and makes a well-crafted public statement
is a sign of weakness. It means, he had to say this, apperently had no other choice.
Lenovo likely had been approached by their top direct customers regarding W10M
and Lenovo does have nothing at their hands, nothing they could offer for like 24 month.
So create some FUD to win time. Lenovo is afraid (rightly so) that HP is using the X3 as a leverage
to open up-unitil-now closed Lenovo direct customers
and start evaluating certain internal enterprise projects. Once HP has a foot in the door of a previously closed account
Lenovo's business is endangered. If you were the Lenovo CEO, what would you say to your customers?? Microsoft does not have to say anything in public.
As mentioned before, Microsoftt talks to their direct customers directly, as does HP. Absolutely no need to take this public (with the remarkable exception of Lenovo of course). MS does not publicly care what the Lenovo CEO says, they take it with a truck load of salt.
MS know WHY he really says it, have to say it (for serious business reasons).
The communication, that you wish to be public, simply occurs directly between the involved parties. As alluded to before:
The Lenovo CEO statement is a sign of weakness and fear. .
hence his statement.
Likely a matter of words. Support for Windows Phone is likely to end soon, but Windows 10 Mobile is the future and the device Microsoft will come up with won't be just another smartphone.
Microsoft's biggest problem in my opinion is that they are not evangelizing UWP enough and they are dragging their feet with HoloLens. HoloLens and Windows Holographic attracted a lot of development excitement, but it will be almost 2 years old come January with no consumer release date, no consumer price, no hardware improvements, and no hardware partners. Microsoft's relevance in mobile computing hinges on HoloLens and Windows Holographic devices getting to market early and at a mass market price. The first-mover advantage is critical. If MS is smart they are developing Windows Holographic OS with partner devices using both Qualcomm and Intel. If they ever hope to shrink HoloLens down to sunglasses size and become useable anywhere then I don't see how they can afford to ignore Qualcomm support of Windows. Given the software that works on HoloLens (only app store apps) are there any advantages at all to the device using Intel or x86 chips? Continuum for HoloLens could also make that device much more versatile with a dock turning Hololens into your desktop PC.