Microsoft Edge browser comes to iPhone today, Android soon
Using Windows 10 with an Android or iPhone is about to get a lot easier, as Microsoft is bringing its Edge web browser to those phones starting today.

In a surprise announcement, Microsoft said its Edge web browser is now available for iPhones, with a release for Android "in the coming weeks."
The initial rollout for the browser will be limited to those in the U.S. but should expand to other markets over time. Currently, the browser is in preview only as Microsoft begins to build out features based on user feedback. The same goes for tablet support on both OSes, which should come later.
Edge for iOS, Android and 'Continue on PC'
Microsoft's main goal with the Edge browser for iPhone and Android users is to make sharing documents easier and help you pick up where you left off when using Windows 10.
Part of the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update feature set is the ability for consumers to pass a link to the "Continue on PC" share target. While that feature works, it is hard to find and not very intuitive.
How to use 'Continue on PC' for Android and iOS in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update
The Edge browser for iOS and Android, however, makes Continue on PC a prime feature with a prominent share icon near the bottom of the browser. Users can just tap to continue the experience on their Windows 10 PCs, or save it for later.
Other features in the Windows 10 version of Edge are also present, including:
- Website favorites sync.
- Reading list sync.
- eBook and ePub support, including sync of purchased content from Windows Store. (Coming soon.)
- Password sync. (Coming soon.)
Joe Belfiore, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Windows and Devices Group, told us that there are no immediate plans for browser extensions, but like many future feature updates, future direction will be partially determined by user feedback and requests.
Other abilities, like signing into your Microsoft Account, InPrivate tab (private browsing), AirDrop, and the ability to set your default search engine to Bing, Google, or Yahoo, are already enabled.
Some of the features like password sync, eBooks, and support for tablets, will come later as Microsoft builds out the current Edge for iOS and Android applications.
Although initially only for the U.S. market, Microsoft expects to push Edge to other countries and languages as it expands the preview to get more feedback.
We've been using Edge for iOS for the last few days, and the browser behaves as expected. Those enrolled in the Windows Insider Program who are running the latest Insider build (Version 1709) can read our guide on how to link your phone to your PC.
Edge for iOS and Android – Slightly more than skin deep
Microsoft told Windows Central that these are not native browsers in the traditional sense. Edge for iOS is based on the WebKit layout engine, while the Edge browser for Android is based on Chromium. That rendering technology contrasts with the EdgeHTML engine that the Windows 10 browser leverages, so build strings and feature sets won't be aligned.
Apple simply does not allow third-party browsers based on non-WebKit engines in the Apple Store, and Android is built around Chromium, making it a more natural fit for that OS.
These Edge browsers are basically sophisticated skins with advanced feature sets that allow syncing with your Windows 10 PC for favorites, reading lists, reading view across your PC and phone, and more features that are familiar to Windows 10 consumers.
Due to Apple's restrictions, consumers won't be able to set Edge for iOS as the default browser. Such limitations, however, do not apply to Android.
Where to get Microsoft Edge for iOS and Android
Starting today, iPhone users can use Apple Test Flight to begin using Edge for iOS Preview. Those on Android can sign up to be one of the first to test the preview Edge for Android, which launches in the coming weeks.
To sign up for Edge on both iOS and Android just head to Microsoft's site here (opens in new tab) to get started.
In addition to announcing Edge for Android Microsoft is also rebranding its Arrow launcher. See what's new with Microsoft Launcher for Android, which is now available!
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Bang!!! A good start :)
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And this marks the end of any hopes for a Windows-based phone. I have no attachment (or opposition) to a Windows-based phone, but, it would be nice to have an alternative to Apple or Google on mobile devices. In theory, Android devices should allow for other operating systems to be installed, but, in practice that isn't a visable since the vast majority of Android devices are just as locked down as Apple devices, or, if they're not, they're so poorly supported and documented that it's only possible to install another version of Android if you visit sites with Android images littered with spyware or who knows what else..
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ED, this has been one of the loud complaints here about Edge -- that it's no good because unlike Chrome and Firefox, it had no cross-device support. For many, that meant they couldn't use their bookmarks/favorites or sync their passwords. So this move is largely about making Edge more attractive on Windows PCs. I'm still a Windows Phone user and I am happy for this news for that reason. I primarily use Edge, but my complaints relate to printing limitations and poor Favorites Bar implementation. It sounds like the Fall Creators Update addresses at least the latter of those (haven't tried it yet myself to know for sure).
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If only we could have Xmarks extension in edge, that would solve the issue. I also like to use different browsers so partially why I value Xmarks so much
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@real0395, I check with them every few months on an extension for Edge, which Xmarks has been promising for over a year. They have bumped the delivery date several times. I just asked again, but don't have a response yet. I hope (but have no idea if it's even a factor) that with the Favorites changes in the FCU, maybe it's easier for them to complete whatever technical hurdles made it difficult for them in the past.
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About a time. Finally I can abandon Chrome completely. I was using it only because of bookmark sync.
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Not really. I've been using the fcu for about a month, and Edge still kind of sucks on it. Yeah, they fixed the favorites bar so that you can now rearrange favorites that are in folders, but it still sucks compared to Chrome or Firefox. Like watching Xfinity Stream, for example, there are all these micro-stutters on Edge whereas Chrome, it's perfectly smooth. I tried using Edge exclusively for a week before I said eff this and went back to Chrome.
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We want Windows app for Android and iOS! Come on Microsoft you can do it!
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What do you mean by Windows app?
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An app that launches the full Windows OS. It's the only app they don't have in the other Stores. And before you say "it's good to have their services on all OSes", YES, it's good. What is not goot is having their apps updated and with more features on other OSes than on Windows.
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They should name Microsoft launcher as Windows launcher. And make it to look more like windows.
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Maybe Microsoft launcher is what Windows Core is going to resemble. It will be very surprising if Microsoft keeps with the Tile interface. It hasn't worked out well on anything.
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I don't agree with your last statement. I think the Tile interface was one of the reason many were using Windows phone/mobile...
At least I like it since in m opinion it has advantages over both iOS app icons and Android Widgets.
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The Tile interface singlehandedly destroyed Windows 8 and Windows phones never caught on. They would be crazy to launch a new product with that interface. Maybe the 6th time is the charm?
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I see continuum being that on android/ios. Glad edge is coming to ios and Android though one thing I miss after my Android switch over.
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lol!!!!
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Edge is better on ios than windows.....
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Yeah, I noticed that, too. When I tap the Reading View, my browser waits at least a couple of seconds, while here we see it open instantanously.
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because thatus a mobile site , this is a desktop site.
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wow what an interesting move for microsoft! this is a big sign that they are totally not focusing on bringing a new windows 10 phone in the near future!
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I think this is just a sign that they're listening to user complaints about Edge on Windows on PC -- one of the biggest complaints is lack of cross-device support, forcing users who might otherwise use Edge to use Chrome for the bookmark syncing.
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Now is the time to make an android rom for lumias
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It would be time to make Windows ROMs for Android-Devices. Would love my Honor 9 without this crappy OS.
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I'm saying exactly the opposite
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So you hate your Honor 9 without a good OS like Win10?
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Sorry. I just understood what you wrote first. Hahahah
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You chose to buy a device running EMUI, that's not the fault of android. If you don't want a crappy OS experience, buy something with a cleaner UI.
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Actually EMUI is one of the fastest UIs out there only the stock Android UI on pixels is faster than it, although I'd rather to have a UI of W10M on my Huawei p10, because android and ios UI will never be as good as W10M
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The difference of other platform users and true microsoft consumers is that we crticize our own products & services whenever it lets us down even for a moment because we arent biased nor blind fans just fact pointers no bs direct to the point not gonna cover that **** up and no excuses only hopes for a better solution within the same product or its next iteration which is also another reason why faults must be pointed out so that it can be fixed, cause if you don't accept whats wrong in you, then you wont ever rectify yourself and the same goes to every product cause nothing is perfect and thats a fact. so from a person who is saying android isn't the fault, i'd ask you why is there so much fragmentation of android versions with different UI's can't people stick to one darn design ? .. ios sticks to one design so much that it feels stagnated regardless everyone who uses one iphone can use pretty much any ios version without conflict, facts over and i believe my point has been made.
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"The difference of other platform users and true microsoft consumers is that we crticize our own products" Written like a Microsoft fan. Pray tell, who are true Microsoft consumers? Are there fake ones? Microsoft deserves criticism because it FAILS its consumers in ways that Microsoft's competitors DON'T. Apple provides an excellent, unified operating system experience with iOS that can't be beat. Android allows for OEMs to differentiate themselves and keeps them happy. Microsoft failed in mobile by providing too little, too late. On the desktop Microsoft is failing its customers as well. Edge was a horrible browser when first released. Only an actual fanboi or someone with low computer literacy skills would've used it in 2015. Even now Edge is a mediocre browser. Recently I was wondering why a web page wasn't working and was wondering why Chrome was so horrible. Lo and behold, I was so focussed on the content that I'd missed the fact that I'd been using Edge. And, I've noticed that Edge has been having problems of late where Chrome keeps on ticking. And, don't mention Windows 10 for Suckers, the UWP/Windows Store only OS. Edge is the one and only default browser allowed ON THE DESKTOP! And, in that one and only browser there is one and only one search engine and it must be Bing. What compelling reason is there to force Bing as the one and only allowable search engine for the entire OS? This means that you cannot control who receives your search information--it always must be Microsoft unless you actually remember to use something else. Not even the much maligned Apple does that with iOS! And, Google, the company that makes its money off advertising doesn't even do that with stock Android or with its own Google branded devices. Only Microsoft engages in this privacy destroying behavior!
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I like this a lot... but still have that feeling of joy mixed with sadness.
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Not bad, but why the f*ck is the address bar at the top? The thing I love the most about Edge on Windows 10 Mobile is the address bar and all the options at the bottom, for easy reach.
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Just one of the many advantages Win10(m) has over Android. It looks like "Via browser" has this feature on Android, I will try this in a view days when i have some time to spare.
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But you can put the adress bar at the bottom on chrome, so i think you will be able to do this on edge as well.
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I have an Elite x3. Easy reach means nothing when I gotta use two hands to use the phone anyway ;-) Never really understood why people got so excited about having it at the bottom when phone sizes went up and up.
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Because I'm a 5 inch phone guy. And this helps a lot on my 650, because I can use Edge one handed without long tapping the Windows button all the time 😁
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With Windows 10 Mobile you can press and hold the Windows button for about 2 seconds and it goes into "One Handed mode" which drops the screen down half way, allowing you to reach the top of the screen with still one hand. It may not be perfect, but it fixes issues with not reaching the top when using one hand.
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Customer: "The website isn't working as expected" Support: "What browser are you using?" Customer: "Edge" Support: "You are on iOS, you are using Safari and you don't know it" Customer: "The website isn't working as expected" Support: "What browser are you using?" Customer: "Edge" Support: "You are on Android, you are using Chrome and you don't know it" *sigh* I got all excited/mixed emotions until I read the detail that it's just a skin for the native browsers on the platforms.
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Yep. People no read the details. I'll just to stick or Samsung Browser or Chrome.
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What did you expect ??? Apple doesn't allow non-native web engine on their devices.... This is a Google and Apple world..... MSFT is dead. They are the second coming of IBM and they don't know it.
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google and apple are dead too, smartphones are dead.
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Lol.
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Nice. Keep spreading it on every platform like a virus.
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Wow, just the other day I was reading an article on MSPowerUser about rumors of Edge coming to Android and iOS but the rumor was dismissed as unlikely anytime soon, now here we are.
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Bringing extensions from the Windows Store to Android would be a nice next step.
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Are there extensions on edge that don't exist already on those os?
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I don't know about Apple and Safari, but you can't install extensions on chrome for android. It's one of the reasons it's crap in my opinion, I use Firefox.
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Cool, bit doubt Google would allow that...lol
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They block all the other Microsoft services from Android. They will block this one too.
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I hope you're joking. Microsoft has over 100 apps avalible on Android and 95 on iOS. There is no "blocking this one too".
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Yeah, I thought the sarcasm would be obvious. Imagine what would happen if Google blocked Microsoft apps from the Play Store!
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No more office 365, end of enterprise with android. boom android sales down by 50% , google chrome exists today cause windows allowed it to run, Microsoft provids apps to google/android even if they can just live without doing so since desktop/windows market is still massive and the reason if it has reduced by even 1% is because MS provided office and such suits to other platforms, if they ran the same monopoly scheme like google does now by not providing any proper/useful google app to the windows store, then they'd be fined billions and thats what happened to microsoft few decades ago when they monopolyzed the market just with the use of msOffice software. the difference between google and microsoft is that google is a ********* potshop for people with no respect for others except hatred, microsoft is a matured enterprise that provides all markets the best and at times even better than for its own.
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Did you just claim that 50% of Android sales are to enterprise?! Why does Google have to provide apps to the Windows store? They are already available on all Windows versions and all desktop operating systems with no store required.
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"google chrome exists today cause windows allowed it to run" WHAAAAAAAT? Chrome exists because Microsoft committed CRIMES and then once it had BENEFITTED from those crimes it decided to provide TERRIBLE customer service to all of its users. Once Microsoft had ILLEGALLY vanquished Netscape it promptly stopped improving Internet Explorer. This left a gaping hole in the web landscape. FireFox was beginning to re-fill that gap, but, there was an opportunity for Google to get in there and outfox Microsoft. All eyes were on Microsoft because of their previous illegal activities so they couldn't pull a Netscape redux on Chrome and illegally hamper its adoption. And, rather than compete they simply pushed the mediocre Internet Explorer without improving it. You've got your Microsoft fanboi blinders on. Microsoft committed crimes, and, in the lazy fat-cat times after it got away with those crimes (Netscape was destroyed afterall) it created the conditions for Google's Chrome to come along BY IGNORING ITS CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDING A SECURITY NIGHTMARE OF A BROWSER!
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I'll just keep using the alternative browsers that have ad blockers until one of the main ones actually implements it on mobile. *shrugs*
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WTH?! Why should you invest into a skin? You can't use your technology, so all the feedback from users will be useless. Maybe they thought that this the only way that Edge will gain some positive publicity, because it is clear that it will work better than the windows version.
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It is not just a skin. They can control everything except for the rendering of the page. Google did it, Mozilla did it, Opera did it, you have the right on your own opinion but if you consider a bit you are probably wrong.
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What exactly they control, except the interface? Beside the fact that it is integrated with Microsoft services (everything else doesn't matter for them), what is the purpose of it?
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As said everything. They control almost as much as any browser that doesn't have its own rendering engine (and that includes Safari, Opera and previous versions of Chrome). There's not much of a difference between claiming that Opera on the PC is a skin comparing to claiming that Edge is a skin. What is the purpose is another question. They have likely came to statistics that (for them) significant portion of people is switching form Edge to Chrome because Chrome works on all devices as their main reason.
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Safari doesn't have it's own engine? That's wrong, it's using WebKit (WebCore for layout) (developed by Apple). Chrome's engine, Blink, is based on WebKit. Opera use the same engine as Chrome. Firefox has its own engine, Gecko. And of course, Edge is using EdgeHTML. This is just a light view of layout engines on browsers - mostly for desktop (layout engine is not the only engine from a browser). On mobile and closed systems, there is a different story. On iOS, every browser is using the same engine as Safari. On Windows 10 (desktop /mobile), every browser from Windows Store, is using Edge's engine. On Android, as far as I know, you can use your own engine. So, Edge on iOS and Android (because they choose Chromium) will be just an interface with some features. The only purpose for this move is Microsoft services pushed on others ecosystems, and maybe some market share. In conclusion, for Windows users, those resources invested in other platforms are worthless. Edge's engines will not see any improvements from this move and the engines are the most important component from a browser.
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WebKit is not Apple's but open-source project that existed before Apple and is basis from which Chromium did start too and that Google used before it decided to split Chromium. It is used by some Linux browsers too (and was used before Apple). If you are not aware, EVERY application in this world that is not a service is based on the interface and then has some code that runs when you do something in the interface. The difference between skin and application is that skin can only run very limited number of commands as a reaction to the interface events, while application can do everything. And Edge can do everything. And that's about it, if you can't understand I don't think I can offer any better explanation, is should be very clear.
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WebKit was developed by Apple using code from an older project and later was open sourced. The most important aspect about a browser is the performance and this is dictated by engines.
This discussion is not about what an interface can do, is about the fact that windows users (especially Edge users) will not have any benefits from this move. All this work will not improve the actual Edge browser, so is just another case when Microsoft is ignoring it's own platform. -
maybe they woke up and realized how much of their customer base they've neglected pushed away chasing some shiny new device and are trying to salvage the people who have yet to fully convert to using a different os as their primary since Windows is becoming less and less relevant for the consumer market. THIS is the next best thing they could do to save face
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Yep. They woke. It's unfortunate but that's how it goes now.
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This sounds very judgmental so I'll take whatever backlash i receive, but watching ms's execs like kipman and Myerson in comparison to Google's execs, they look so out of touch with the real world. I think ms needs young, new management. There is NO reason or excuse for these repeated mishaps.
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LOL I was just about to comment how crappy Edge is and then I read the details on how it will really be a "skinned" chrome/safari browser. And yeah Edge sucks on Windows 10. As a web developer I deal with it every day. It hangs and crashes A LOT.
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I would guess this is a PICNIC (Problem in Chair, not in Computer). Edge might be a bit more unforgiving regarding HTML-"interpretations", but in my opinion that's a good thing.
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Something is wrong with your PC then. I use Edge full time on Windows, and it never crashes for me.
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I'm a developer too and working on a web app, I must admit though that when I have a problem (often javascript), when I read the documentation on a library or function it is often edge that does it correctly, where the other browsers can be more forgiving..
It doesn't help when the majority of the developer community has some kind of religious hate against all browsers from Microsoft :)
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I have to agree with the others who've replied. Perhaps in the past(IE6) Microsoft had a bad implementation of a browser, but these days it seems to be working fine. Whenever I run into a problem of "My script works in Firefox and Chrome, why not IE!?" it turns out I'm doing something wrong, and Firefox and Chrome are just being forgiving.
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Meanwhile Edge on Windows 10 is an absolute useless garbage. Not even comparable to Firefox, Chrome and Opera in terms of features and functionalities, not to mention the extentions. It's a bare bone browser that serves Ok, but who uses a browser like that anymore. Even my parents want me to install more sophisticated functional browsers like Chrome and Opera on their laptops. Edge is in development for more than 3 years and it's absolutely the same as when it kicked off. Pathetic
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It shows web-pages and has an adblocker and password-manager. All i require from a browser.
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Do you require security from your browser? http://www.tomshardware.com/news/pwn2own-2017-microsoft-edge-hacked,3394...
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0.O I did not know just how poor at security Edge is. This has got me really thinking of switching my default browser on my PC. Thanks.
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Right! I was very surprised when I read this the other day. I assumed it was very secure since it seemed so simple.
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From that article linked: "There was only one attempt to hack Chrome, by Team Sniper (Tencent Security), but it couldn’t get the attack to work in the allotted time." If only one attempt was made and failed, it doesn't really mean "most secure" it just means it wasn't really a target. Each browser has their vulerabilities.
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They are there to make money. If they could hack Chrome, they certainly would. Likely the most money is made from a Chrome exploit and not only from that competition, but Google themselves pay when you find an exploit.
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@bleached, that link is from the Anniversary Update version of Edge. I would agree that it doesn't reflect well that it was ever easier to hack than other browsers, but in that same article they point out that the prior version beat Safari. It will be interesting to see how Edge and Windows fare following the CU and FCU updates.
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It is better than crappy. It also is faster with the fall update (insider here). It keeps getting better
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Funny thing is: WHERE IS ITUNES IN THE WINDOWS STORE ??? LOL
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I wouldn't be surprised if they 180'd. Apple customers are in the apple ecosystem and i can't see businesses using iTunes. Ms pushed it's consumer costumer base away. If i was apple, iTunes in the windows store would be an afterthought.
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I guess we who are outside the US will play the waiting game again , with a chance to never be available in our country like Cortana
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Next: Microsoft store on Android and iOS
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Yes they should do that. And make the apps work on all platforms
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I believe this will happen. They haven't do this already because i think they try to find a way to make Windows apps work on Android and iOS
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They should fix first Edge on W10m.Fy Microsoft
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I tried a lot of Browsers on Android. Except Opera they all work terrible to desastrous (and non of them has the adress bar in thumbs reach).
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Chrome has the address bar on the bottom of the mobile browser, and it works really well...Maybe not on crappy mobile devices, though I only use Flagship Android devices so my experience is always excellent.
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Agreed. Unfortunately W10m is dead. Supposedly WoA is going to repalce it but Microsoft will probably kill it before they even release it. And if they do release it...well it'll probably get abandoned/killed after a year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Hmm I would like to try this out! Very cool! Will be checking out the video shortly.
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Why Microsoft not made android phone under lumia brand
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Because they don't need to. Nobody is making money selling Android phones except Samsung. If MS sold hardware made by someone else, with an OS made by someone else, what the heck is MS about it? While I am not jazzed by it, they are doing well providing apps, which connect to their services on Android and iOS, and letting others suffer making the platforms to run it on.
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It was really a huge surprise and bigger still went to see the QRCode and the continuing on edge, features that do not exist in the Microsoft Mobile. **** you, Satan Nadella.
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Sweet, I can run Edge on my Chromebook
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(don't mind this)
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HALLELUJAH
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Don't worry, surface phone ultra mobile pc blah blah blah article incoming.....
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Funny you said that...not sure about an article, but we do have more info about Andromeda. Everything Zac and I have written so far on it is accurate.
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Andromeda? do you have more info on just wcos or the hardware device sharing the same name floating around Redmond?
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When you are going tell us more info about windows core os
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Wait, isn't this a "Me too" product that dosen't add any new features that they always want to kill off?
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yep
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Well, MS has officially killed my hope. I guess my next phone will be a Galaxy or some other high-end Android device, whenever my 950XL stops working. Even if MS puts out a pocketable mobile Surface device, with cellphone capabilities, it will not be created for the average consumer. Since Satya Nadella stated out of his own mouth, why do we need more than two mobile ecosystems, there will not be anything phone related for the average consumer for quite some time, if ever. I get the move to put all their services on other platforms from a business sense, but it has killed developer desire to create anything for MS devices, outside of PC and that hasn't really taken off. I was one of the few hopefuls left. It's not that I didn't see the writing on the wall, but i was...well, hopeful. Lol I still hope to see that change, but with no new devices in the foreseeable future, continued support from MS, devs and OEMs that are steadily losing faith in MS, my choice has been made clearly for me. I will admit, that Galaxy Note 8 is pretty nice. Now that i will be able to use Edge along with other MS services that I use, why not? I'm going to miss the tiles, though.
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Yeah me too. I was one of those hopefuls. I use my 950xl everyday and everyday it gets less and less stable (even though I'm on the "Consumer Stable Version"). It's slowly dying. Had I known how Satya Nadella felt about their mobile efforts I would've bought a Samsung Galaxy a long time ago.
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@dpz, You must have been blinded by fanboy or something because I knew how Nadella felt about mobile A LONG TIME AGO.
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This isn't a concession that has any bearing on whether or not there will be a Windows Surface Phone or something similar. This is about boosting Edge usage on Windows PCs. One of the chief reasons given for not using Edge is, "I can't share favorites with the browser I use on my phone." That's driving people to Chrome on Windows. This should help with that. There still may never be another Windows phone-like device, but not because of Edge on iOS and Android.
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That may be true, but the recent moves, to include being able to use Edge on iOS and Android, within itself isn't a bad thing, doesn't exactly boost confidence that there will be something in the horizon. Again, i get why MS is doing it, but given their history with mobile devices, regular support and development of their apps on iOS/Android and their recent move to discontinue Groove music services doesn't help the average consumer confidence. My point is this, with some of the app experiences that are being developed for other platforms gives little reason for anyone to really want to continue to invest in a mobile platform, if you can use all the MS services you want and still have the benefit of all the apps you want on other platforms. The move, while not a bad thing in general, to be able to use Edge on other platforms makes things appear very uncertain. I hope I'm wrong, but as is, this is how the consumer industry will see things.
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Who could've seen this coming?! 😏 Check out last week's Windows Weekly from Ignite (Episode 537).
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Yeah, Paul and Mary Jo were way off to be sure, but in their defence, Microsoft seemed to keep this one tightly under wraps (for once). I expect Paul will continue to hate on Edge regardless, but that's just the cynic in me.
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Finally 😭😭😭😭 Plz make android edge available to all countries at launch . Iam good with english , dont need any other language for now.
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Why does Android have to wait weeks? Why can't we have now? I hate that iOS is always first. Android should be first. The problem with iOS is that Apple limits it to only the iPhone/iPad whereas Android is avaialble for many phones & tablets.
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I agree. I wish that, right now, we didn't have to be part of the Insider group to get this browser on our devices. But I guess they want to see how many people will use the Edge browser on their mobile and sync it with their PC. I'm going to say: Not very many. Why? Because there are a lot of browsers available now on iOS and Android, better ones too. The world doesn't need ANOTHER browser ecosystem. Nadella's words, not mine.
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Apple limits its OS to just its own products and that's a bad thing? It's the best thing about iOS. It's optimized like hell.
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"Why does Android have to wait weeks?" Android is a nightmare to develop for. You've got at least five or six MAJOR versions of the OS running on a WIDE variety of devices (4, 4.2, 4.4, 5, 6, 7). If one well represented device runs into major problems with an app you've got a PR nightmare on your hands. Many of those Android devices are fly-by-night models. The vast majority of Android devices are built to be disposable within a few months. Manufacturers provide no OS updates whatsoever, ever. And, if you ever want to root your device to install an update you're likely running into hardware problems since each device is unique (it's not like the Windows world where you can install drivers for new hardware). Plus, any ROMs that install onto your Android device likely come from a shady source with who knows what sort of spyware installed. iOS is clean. Its engineering is beyond reproach. And, above all, it requires far less memory than does Android. iOS is a good ecosystem for developers to target. It's predictable. What early software? Go for iOS. Want cheap hardware? Go for Android.
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What a joke! EdgeHTML would've been the sole differentiation. Now it's just a chromium browser (uses Blink rendering engine on Android) with Move to PC add on. If that is the sole purpose of introducing a browser on other platforms, they could've pushed cortana which does the same in preview or do a separate Move to PC app. They could've spent those efforts else where. If they don't have confidence in their own products who will? This is an insult to the Microsoft Edge team.
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Allow me to translate your statement. Wah! There fixed it. How do you know the Edge team isn't the ones doing this?
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Edge has a Team? must be two people in a dark basement somewhere in california...you know...to optimize costs for the board and shareholders.
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It's an insult to everyone. But iOS and Android run the show now. If they say you have to use their browser rendering engines then you have to use them. Yes Microsoft should've use their efforts elsewhere but when you're irrelevant you do what you have to inorder to get the people's attention. That's what happens when you don't have confidence in your own products. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Watch Edge on iOS and Android vastly outperform Edge on Windows. On Windows Edge has to use EdgeHTML. It's a mediocre rendering engine. I STILL (two years after release) frequently encounter sites which do not work well or at all in Edge but work fine in a real browser (on the desktop).
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cool, now bring photos, maps and movies&tv
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Nice Trojan Horses luring to "the best experience on Windows"?
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If only this were true.
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That would be the worst Trojan Horse. :)
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no extensions? Doa. Nobody in my family uses edge now because we all use extensions. I don't want garbage ads and forced popup Windows in 2017.
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"Nobody in my family uses edge now because we all use extensions..." You realize this doesn't make sense, right, because Edge supports extensions (on desktop)? I agree with you regarding unwanted content. I use and can strongly recommend the AdGuard extension for Microsoft Edge. uBlock Origin is also worth a look.
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edge has a few dozen extensions, and most of them suck. using both of those extensions i still have popups open. also, edge is trash on mobile (i have a 950xl, wife a 950) and we both hate the lack of extensions on mobile.
What i said makes sense. extensions on desktop are terrible and slim, and people are abandoning it, and many of them because of lack of extensions. Don't believe me look at chromes extension store and its market share, now look at edge. -
Edge is also an obnoxious browser. It's the only browser I know of that, right off the bat, fills your new page with loads of ads and click-bait news. Every time I open up a clean Edge I feel like I've landed on one of those "Top 55 Pictures You'll Never Believe Are Real" sites. Plus, quite regularly Edge will reset itself after a major update (that's what I find even more obnoxious). It's the way Microsoft treats its operating system users that's disheartening--all we are to them is the recipients of advertising, RIGHT AT THE HEART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM. By comparison, even Google, the company that MAKES ITS MONEY off advertising, doesn't subject users of stock Google-provided Android to a non-stop barrage of ads for its app store or any number of other things. And, Google doesn't require you to find OBSCURE settings to disable ads--e.g. how would "Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows" ever give a user the hint that it controls the display of ads. Normal people don't think of "tips, tricks and suggestions" as being synonymous with ads.
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Yes, I agree. I feel the same way when I open up a new page. It's all disheartening. -_-
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i agree that launch page is a mess. paid ads should not be there.
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Opera also has something like this. And currently on Nightly, you'll find something like this too, which will soon transition into Firefox.
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Why I see this as the start of the Android invasion.
Think about making a bundle with Android phone maker to come out with
- MS launcher (can include optional Metro UI because... why not?)
- Cortana
- Edge
- Outlook
- Office mobile
- Microsoft Defender (renamed from Windows Defender)
- Microsoft store (seriously, you can put your store in Android) - maybe starting from selling devices and movies, etc. Well, that looks familiar. -
I don't see the point in all of these "Trojan" attempts. iOS and Android already have lots of browsers available, good ones too. The world doesn't need ANOTHER browser ecosystem. Isn't that right Nadella?
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LMAO!!!!!
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I always wanted EDGE on Android thanks Microsoft
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Still Chrome beats the performance of Edge on iPhone, IMO
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It still in beta so it can change.
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I knew it. They are giving goodies to iOSAndroid users, and doing anal to Windows users. Good job, give it to us.
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Well the Microsoft Defence Force likes it that way so......
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You have no one to blame but yourself for irrationally sticking with a dead product.
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Yes, they're giving iOS and Android Edge...something Windows 10 has had since launch over 2 years ago. I believe Windows mobile has or will have Continue on PC with the Creators Update. I would check, but my 950XL shattered yesterday, and there are no replacements available anywhere. TL;DR: This is an example of Windows getting it first and others getting it much later, and they aren't even getting the Edge rendering engine.
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Windows Mobile has the setting which does nothing so I guess that counts as getting it?
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I don't see the point. Chrome on desktop Windows is better than Edge, so I'd rather sync my PC and mobile bookmarks with Chrome on Android than bother using Edge on Android.
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Very nice
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Edge is a horrible mess, technically and market-wise. No one uses it on windoze, never mind other platforms. Chrome has won. Get over it.
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Some of us really don't want to give Google our whole lives. Maybe if they ever find a revenue stream other than ads I'll take them seriously.
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I would like to sign up, but I don't want to put my work computer on an early release update. I'll wait 2 weeks until the Fall Creators Update rolls out.
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I came here for the Incognito website comments and was disappointed.
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Nice move Nutella... Now bring that W10 Launcher so that i can finally test a WIN MOBILE
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Where this could really be cool is they integrated these browsers with AAD, AAD Proxy, Intune and O365. For corporates/enterprises there is a lack of support for intranet browsing without the need for VPNs and data encryption. If they evolve these browsers so that they become the corporate intranet window with all the features such as 'Continue', then the ecosystem can grow in to new areas.
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Guarantee you that within 3 months Edge for iOS and android will have way more features and abilities that Edge for w10m has ever had.
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This and the updated Microsoft launcher pretty much assures I will seriously look at the upcoming Razer phone when my 950xl gives up.
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test
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I'm gonna love reading the comments on this one. :popcorn emoji:
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Edge for iOS is based on the WebKit layout engine, while the Edge browser for Android is based on Chromium.
Cue the countdown to Edge desktop being rebooted with webkit, and the associated delays, restart with zero plug-in, and other headaches for users. -
WHY IS THE ADRESS BAR ON TOP!!!????
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They're copying iOS native Safari UX.
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Awesome. I was searching for this on my iPad last night.
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I still won't use it for a while. At least until Edge on PC go cross-platform, at least on Mac. I currently use Chrome and Firefox on Mac. If Microsoft willing to release Mac version of Edge, I'll be more happy to switch right away.
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Well, not surprising at all...iOS always gets all the things first, though I'd never use Edge since I have access to Chrome. It works the best for my use case across three devices.
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I am 100% OK with this. Once the full feature set is in place, this will be great. I'm not even on Android or iOS...yet...
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Looks like my impending switch to Android won't be so bad after all.
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Hopefully we'll get 'Windows' on Android and iOS soon too! (not the OS, just a window as a container/pane/stream).
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Its not even fully featured on Windows but they want to put it on iOS and Android? Ha ha ha.
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How Apple doesn't get slapped with anti-competitive laws I'll never know.
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Because Apple is not #1 in any market.
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As naddy pointed out, Apple is not in a monopoly position--and Apple doesn't even engage in anti-competitive behavior. Because browsers are mostly similar (with the exception of Edge which is vastly inferior on the desktop) they are little more than portals to a search engine--that is where competition is important. Microsoft still is dominant (possibly in a monopoly positions, still) on the desktop so I wouldn't be surprised to see the EU go after Windows 10 S and how it chooses to utterly destroy consumer choice and engage in the same anti-competitive behavior that landed them in hot water in the early 2000's. In the early 2000's it was all about the browser. Now it's about the search engine. iOS and Safari allow users to set their own default search engine AND HAVE DONE SO FROM THE BEGINNING. Microsoft's Windows 10 S requires you to only ever use Bing as the default search engine for the entire OS (the fact that you can't change away from Edge as the default and inside Edge you can't change away from Bing means that it's fair to characterize the OS as having one and only allowable search engine). If there ever was blatant anti-competitive behavior it's Microsoft's behavior vis-a-vis Bing and Windows 10 S.
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Ed, NO USE trying to explain LOGIC to the fanboys here!
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How people don't understand anti-competitive laws I'll never know.
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I'm afraid they are urinating into a gale. Why would an Android user install anything with Chrome already on it? Why would an iOS user chosse this over Chrome? Edge has been unkindly called the Chrome application installer on Windows. Why would this be different on mobile?
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Why would they install Edge? Because Edge's problem on the desktop is the HTML rendering engine. If they're using something other than EdgeHTML they've suddenly entered the world of using a mature, robust rendering engine. And, on mobile, the interface is much less important. There is little difference between Safari, Chrome and FireFox on a mobile screen. As such, for a Windows user, it could be useful to have the integration that Edge offers users. I've never taken to using Chrome's platform features. If Edge on the desktop were a thousand times better than it is, who knows, perhaps I'd use the cross-platform features since Microsoft will presumably make it easy to use those cross-platform features for Windows.
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Perfect timing! I'll be upgrading from my rebooting 950xl monster to the LG V30 at the end of November...so I'm looking forward to having the Edge experience carry over.
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I am trying to get this on my iPhone and compare it to my HP elite but its not working every time i click the link its says Im not running the latest and I am...
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I'm afraid Microsoft will drop Edge for Windows and remake it based on Chromium engine, just like Opera browser did. I often watch MSDN videos and read articles, almost all Microsoft workers use Chrome.
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"almost all Microsoft workers use Chrome" That's fascinating. Never noticed it, but, now that you mention it it does make sense. Microsoft techs will be tech-savvy and why would tech-savvy people use inferior tools for the job. Macs and iPhones are and have always been disproprotionately popular with Microsoft's technical staff. They simply use the best tool for the job. Microsoft's software is designed for cheap. Apple's software and hardware is designed to work, but, you pay a premium for that. Obviously Microsoft's employees can afford that premium (and, in their case, time is money so why wouldn't you use the best tool for the job). The corollary holds true as well--the use of non-Apple products in Apple tech spheres is disproportionately small relative to Microsoft's marketshare. Here too time is money so why not use what allows you to be most efficient?
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So when is windows 10 mobile coming to iPhone? Or may be Galaxy S8?
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I guess it's "coming soon" ™ in canada.