Microsoft testing Windows Phone 8.1 internally

A Chinese developer (opens in new tab) just caught an interesting record in its server log, saying that a mysterious running Windows Phone OS version 8.10.12166 has downloaded his app. Considering the latest version of Windows Phone that we consumers have direct access to is 8.0.10328.78, the higher version in question has to be Windows Phone 8.1 being tested somewhere inside Microsoft.

Back in June, WMpoweruser reported sighting of Windows Phone version 8.10.12076.0, it's only natural that version number goes up in the past two months. Over the course, the developer of Chinese app Love Wallpaper HD (opens in new tab) has also caught glimpses of version number 8.10.12073.0, 8.10.12086.0, 8.10.12100.0 and 8.10.12102.0.

It's good to find Redmond hard at work polishing the next major system update. However, there's no word on when the update will come yet. It's widely believed that Windows Phone 8.1 has be postponed to early 2014. And by the pace of things (we are just beginning to get the GDR2 update), that expectation looks very true.

Source: WPDang

  • Second!
  • First!
  • Third!
  • Eight and a tenth!
  • First!
  • dafuq?
  • NIST
  • Second!
  • Donkey!
  • MOAR DONKEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Damn Gaylords...
  • *Looks at the eagerness and shakes head*
  • Lol
  • You need to start moderating these things.
  • Last!
  • 1/2
  • One, two, five!
  • Looking forward to it, eagerly!
  • Yeah, looking forward to my Nokia Phablet running WP8.1..
  • If GDR3 is ready to go for phones next month, I would hope they are already working on 8.1. That gives them about a 6 month dev cycle to be announced/released around February 2014, so I'd expect then to show up to MWC 2014 in a big way.
  • +1
  • I would assume they have been working on 8.1 since release, most likely different teams within the WP-team working on different parts of the OS. Much of the early work would have been design work together with the W8 team, I assume.
  • Don't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me
  • I like the way you talk baby
  • They have probably been working on 8.1 since 8.0 came out
  • I'm sure they were. They moved 2/3 of the team to work on 8.0 as soon as 7.0 was released.
  • GDR3? Come on! Where is GDR2 first? Still nothing in Singapore.
  • Yeah. Tired of hearing this BS and GDR2/Amber still isn't rolled out. 
  • Working at a pharmacy company, I can tell you with out a shadow of a doubt that the company is polishing up the next release now and already began some sort of out look for Windows phone 9. Our customers are using version 11 of our software and I am already hearing buzz about what 13 will have. Our versions change about every 10 months.
  • Anyone else had the X-Files theme song playing in their head while reading this ?
  • +1
  • no
  • I want to believe.
  • +scully
  • *facepalm*
  • The truth is out there. They walk among us.
  • Anyone else listened to the X-Files theme song on youtube after reading IceDree's comment, and then read the article again with the song playing on the background? Probably just me..
  • Replace 'probably' with 'definitely'.
  • That was quick. I just got GRD2...
  • ...while I'm still at GDR1/Portico... still waiting for GDR2 :/
  • Still waiting for GRD2. Slow pace of update here in the Philippines.
  • same on me, I'm from Indonesia, still waiting for it, especially for Lumia 620. While it's quite slow, but I believe it will bring much better update for mine.
  • lol no need to announce your country, the whole world is waiting for GDR2 except for a select few
  • GDR2+amber here in Finland, on L920
  • Also in The Netherlands! Europe rules!
  • Same for me and I am in the US on ATT, the "flagship" Windows Phone partner....
  • 8x? I got it like a week ago. Have you manually tried going to the update page and checking from there?
  • The few, the proud, the updated.
    Can't believe Verizon of all carriers pushed out my update before so many.
    I had already settled on waiting until the last few days of August. Then when I read Nokia saying that they expected everyone to have it by the end of September, I pushed back my expectations even further.
    Not to rub it in, but glance and tap to wake is awesome. Its almost like a completely new phone.
  • Glance is a great new feature but tap to wake has been performing poorly for me on my 822. It's faster to pick the phone up and hit the button than get the double tap right
  • Glance on my 928 doesn't seem to work well. Sometimes it's extremely sensitive in that I can approach it from directly to the side of it and it will activate and other times it just won't work. And then sometimes when it is activated it will not turn off at all despite my timing settings. I end up having to press the power button to get it off the screen.
  • What can I say, it was preinstalled on my 925. Made the sacrifice of sticking with my launch-week HD7 worth it.
  • Depending on your handset, you may get is sooner than the rest of us Pinoys. Unbranded Lumias are still tagged as Coming soon. Consider me annoyed and impatient
  • I am from the Philippines and I have GDR2 +Lumia Black. Oh, I have updated my phone when I visited Dubai last week.  
  • Anyone get 7.8 yet?
  • I heard GDR2 was delayed for Nokia's Amber firmware update. Not sure if that's true.
  • I see Mr BlurryCam still buys his cameras from the same place bank video get their equipment. lol
  • Haha this made me laugh xD
  • Yeah, him and all the bigfoot hunters get their cameras at the same shop.
  • Of course Microsoft is testing WP 8.1 internally, we don't need a server log to know that.
  • Scrolled until I found your comment. Pretty obvious to me. I like seeing version numbers trickle out, but they are commonly faked.
  • Yup. I guess this kind of news is for normal readers. For software developer like me, it is very obvious MS must have been working on the next version of WP right after 8.0 was out and they may be testing nightly builds every day.
  • Shouldn't even be news for the normal readers. Anyone remembers the developer device sold with a test-build? This was already few months back. And since I doubt they stopped developing since then... obvious news is obvious.
  • No, this is breaking news!
  • All you can infer from this is that they have a branch of code under 8.1. This code is practically the same as wp8 and im sure any new projects for wp8.1 are just beginning on the new branch given that gdr3 itself hasn't rtm.
  • What makes you think work isn't happening on both 8.1 and GDR3 at the same time?  Product teams often have multiple branches with people working on each, especially if one is "sustained engineering" and another is "next release."  The code in an 8.1 branch could have quite a few differences without any impact on GDR3 work.  I'd bet money that this is the case and 8.1's moving right along.  We've previously seen leaks that would indicate it has been in progress for some time.
  • Ehm, no, you couldn't be more wrong. WP8.1 has been under development since last year. The 8.0 and 8.1 branches are very different at this point, partially incompatible even. WP8.1 will also ship with a new and revised SDK.
  • You can't infer anything from this.  You can shove anything out in the HTTP headers.
  • that giant clock on the live tile is lovely.
  • +920
  • What app/tile is that?
  • that is not a real screenshot, just a UI concept
  • What weather app is that?
  • Cool....test it....roll it out...oh yeah, NOKIA STOP PUTTING ALL YOUR GOOD PHONES ON AT&T EXCLUSIVELY....THAT SUX FOR EVERYONE ELSE. thank you =)
  • Doesn't matter. We still don't get updates until a year after everyone else. F**k it.
  • Lay off the drama sauce.
  • Reminds me...I'm all out of drama to the store.
  • Is there a wish list of features people want for the 8.1 update- besides notification center? I'd like to hear what people want/think is missing.
  • Custom text tone please good lord above custom text tones... Im tired of the nokia message sound
  • *ding ding*
  • LOL xD
  • GDR 3 will have the custom text / IM, emails and reminder sounds.
  • I know i have it and enjoying it
  • Same here. When I found out that I could sign up for the developer program and get the early release of the GDR 3 update, I jumped right on it. I had just upgraded to GDR 2 on ATT (L920). I hope they do the same with WP8.1 I am really curious to see what other features they add.
  • Check the uservoice page for WP, it's full of wishes/demands.
    Really, notification center and general fixes & improvements are all I'm asking for. Maybe some news tile sizes (2x1; 4x1 and 3x2) and theme colors.
  • 3x2? Or maybe the blocks of teris! :) Not bad idea! It will renamed then to metris UI or tetro UI... :D
    Btw no gdr2 at greece too... :(
  • Yup. The basic design and idea behind the OS is great, and doesn't need much in the way of changes. At this point, the main thing is that they need a better way to handle notifications for apps that are not pinned to the start screen and notification history, and a ton of smaller improvements for added usability (such as how NFC works etc).
  • File upload through web browser
  • I just want the notification center. Tiles are good for quick peak but not a replacement for it. I also want some of the voice Bluetooth features that were present in wp7 but missing in wp8! Wtf
  • HTC 8x on Verizon...still no GDR2
  • Well, at least you got GDR1.
  • Still waiting here too :-\
  • WPC are you friends with WMPU? Haha
  • Maybe. But i prefer reading both. ^_^
  • I followed them both in Twitter. lol
  • I just wish the 8.1 gives more freedom to the developers.
  • Just got GDR2 and it's through Nokia NSU not OAT, GDR2 been talked about for nearly half a year, so 8.1 sth that big probably takes years to come...I guess
  • How is this news?? I would hope someone at MSFT is testing 8.1!!
  • They're just feeding the masses, look how many comments its gotten already.
  • To bad this blurry picture is just a concept.
  • rapid rapid rapid. push it steve.
  • All my apps logged wp 8.10 versions. But the latest one was by app GC ShrinkURL i.e 8.10.12168.0. MS is using XDeviceEmulator for testing.
  • This image is from my concept for 1800PocketPc - Windows Phone 8.1 Blue Concept. Please don't use it without permission. 

  • Oh word? It is a pretty smart look, good job...better than some other mockups out there, this would look pretty awesome. ;)
  • Thank you :)
  • First time I see you here YankoA and I love your WP 8.1 Concept.
  • Thanks. I had  lot of Windows Phone concepts -
  • Wow.
    You spent a lot of time on that.
    Some of it seems a little too "busy", but you can't implement all those features without it either being a little jumbled or so spread out that its hard to find/use stuff.
    Very impressive.
  • I really like the concept because it adds a lot of features which I personally think are needed in Windows Phone but it is still simple and easy to grasp and use. Unlike a lot of other concepts where a lot of desirable features are added but in a way that adds loads of gestures and other things that complicate the OS. It would be awesome if Microsoft implemented some of the features in that way. For example I liked the way there were switches for different things in the notification centre, something which I found extremely useful In my old N8. Keep up the good work!
  • Can't wait for the update
  • i have Nokia 925 i can install this windows phone 8.1 later?
  • Yes... much later. Like next year.
    Your 925 will be able to get all OS updates for at least the next 2 years.
  • You are very optimistic. "Able to get" and "get" are not the same.
  • Well the 36 month support cycle tells me that we will get updates for two years!!!!!
  • LOL
    36 months equals 3 years ya know.
  • maybe he means 1 year = 18 months. :p
    peace, no offense =)
  • MS said that all WP8 devices will be able to upgrade to the next OS, meaning WP9 or whatever they call it.
  • Damn!!
    This leaks are driving me crazy, I want the BANDIT period!!
  • What? I couldn't hear you. What did you say?
  • Damn!!
    This leaks are driving me crazy, I want the BANDIT period!!
  • Stop mumbling. Say it a little slower.
  • Damn!!
    This leaks are driving me crazy, I want the BANDIT period!!
  • third time's the charm?
  • Ohhh!....Who's Bandit?