Update 3: The 8.1 update is live as our T-Mobile Lumia 925 now has Lumia Cyan (and it is also enrolled in the Preview for Developers program)
It looks like T-Mobile US is getting ready to unveil finally the Windows Phone 8.1 and Lumia Cyan update for its venerable Lumia 925.
Evidence comes from T-Mobile's support forums, which detailed the over-the-air update. However, that page has since reverted and despite an earlier claim, we have not had an update for our Lumia 925s. It looks like T-Mobile may have jumped the gun a bit early, although we have all the details.
In a screenshot sent to us, the original T-Mobile page claimed the following:
"Beginning October 28, the Lumia 925 received a software update to Windows Phone 8.1 / Software version 01061.00074.14391.37104. This update provides features and improvements: Windows Phone 8.1 and Inflight Texting support."
The update comes in at 267 MB.
As of 3PM ET, none of our T-Mobile Lumia 925s has received an update, and the support page has since returned to the original version from February 20. However, due to the amount of detail present in the original posting from the support forums, it should be clear that this update with Windows Phone 8.1 and Lumia Cyan is very, very close. Indeed, a few users are reporting updates coming in, meaning this could be the start of the update.
Stay tuned, as Windows Central will let you know if the update is finally available.
Source: T-Mobile; Thanks, Kurt D., for the tip and screenshot!
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I finally allowed the update to my Nokia Lunia 925, and it trashed my phone. The Name ID service no longer works. My ringer volume goes to zero for no reason at least once a day; as a result, I cannot hear inbound phone calls. The visual voicemail can't connect any more unless I talk to technical support and they can get it going for a day or two then it stops connecting. There is a new slide-out feature of settings that you can access by dragging the edge of the screen, but if you are working on something on the screen, you suddenly can't work because the settings properties slide out.
I now need a new phone.
I picked up a 925 from NewEgg for $199 off contract for my step-dad over the summer. Absolutely fantastic phone for him. Kicking myself for not buying a second one for my mom. She's still rocking the 710.
And yet the Lumia Icon on Verizon is still stuck on WP8.0 with Lumia Black! Verizon SUCKS!
meanwhile at verizon...... crickets
OS 8.10.14176.243 is Windows Phone 8.1 Update,
OS 8.10.12400.899 is Windows Phone 8.1,
8.1 Update is the latest OS out as per, http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8/basics/windows-phone-8-upda...
As for Firmware,
Lumia 925 3051.50009.1424.00xx (Lumia Cyan) as per, http://developer.nokia.com/community/wiki/Firmware_change_logs_for_Nokia...
If you get a chance check the Core Build ID, Application version and Build Creation date in the Extras + Info section of settings on your 925's to see if they are both the same on the Cyan and Denim.
My Denim firmware 925 has Core Build ID 3051.50009.1439.10416, App Ver 3.12.0.3, Build Creation 9/29/2014
If both your Cyan and Denim have the same it is very safe to assume that the firmware is identical, just the name bug as reported by many others in the community. Not sure why the core ID build number 3051.50009.1439.xxxx is not listed at the Nokia firware revision site though.
All reports of DENIM being released are false alarms, as a simple web search will show.
That said---What advantage would Denim bring to a 925 anyway over Cyan? The processor doesn't support "Hey Cortana" passive mode, right? Will the camera work with the new features coming in that version?
I ask because I wonder--should I allow Cyan to overwrite my Developer's Preview 8.1? If I stick with the Dev. Preview release, I'll likely get Denim much, much quicker than waiting for T-Mobile to push it if past history is any indication. So, is Cyan NOW worth not having Denim for a long time, if ever, considering I'm already on 8.1?
I don't care about wifi calling. Is there better speed/battery with Cyan, and other advantages?
It seems the Lumia 925 Cyan SW release has a core build of 3051.50009.1424.00xx
I have a Lumia 925 which shows Lumia Denim with a core build of 3051.50009.1439.10416
That core build does not show up when searching Google, are we positive that the Denim has not been pushed to some phones? Can you post your core build ID's on phones that say Cyan and Phones that say Denim?
New, as of this AM, my second 925 just back from warranty repair upgraded itself to 8.1 Cyan, not Denim like my 925 that was running PforD. Neither phone can find another update after those.
Both phones have Firmware Revision 3051.50009.1439.0017
However, the Denim phone shows OS 8.10.14176.243, the Cyan phone, 8.10.12400.899. Radically different, and if they always use higher numbers for later versions, backwards from what one might expect re Cyan and Denim sequence.
Got the update, working well. Want to download WI-FI calling app but it says it's not available for my 925. is there a way to re-download the WI-FI calling app?
+1 Wondering this too!
been using dev preview since day one on my 925, got lumia cyan today. noticeably much faster and smoother
Amazing... Great move T-Mobile... Now lets get started with the new update.
My update rolled in this morning around 6:30am EST. I joked with my wife that it was the Cyan update. Of course after eyes rolled, I checked and lo and behold! Cyan!
Isn't there another dev preview update were supposed to get before the end of the year? Like update 1 or 2 or something like that... One with new features? Nobody has talked about it and so I forgot when MS said it was coming around. Or if it was a rumor
Finally!!! It sure did take long enough, but we finally have Cyan. Magically my wi-fi calling works again, and actually works correctly. Something it never did even before PD. Now I can get text messages while connected to wifi calling.
Oh yeah, seems faster. lol
I had to reset after updating from dp because I couldn't type properly. After the reset, my phone went right to Denim and now all is well and better than ever. It's faster and I'm happy to be able to text again
I'm downloading an update now for the Lumia 925 for T-Mobile.
SEEMS FAST........................er.
Verizon, now it's your turn...
In a week.....
I live in Finland and I got the Cyan on my Lumia 925 in last June.
I emailed John this weekend and week and was polite about it. They responded. Then asked my another question :D. I responded to that and wifi calling might have been an issue. No response then I see this.
Just got the update. Feels like a new phone. And have you notice how must windows phones are made to last?
Interesting, getting another update after the 8.1 Cyan finished.
looks like the second update was a Peview for developers update
Now running 8.10.14192.280 and Cyan!
Just confirming that SMS works both ways with this update. The WFC appears to be stable, although I still had to re-turn it on when it at first didn't load right. Damned firmware WFC (vs. old fashioned hardware implementation.)
Despite what many have said on this thread, I have no reason to believe that it's not running Denim. Not that I have a clue why Cyan - never rolled out on PforD - or Denim are supposed to be better other than they are. Which is rather circular logic.
Yes, the Extras app did apparently have a bit of premature application about two weeks ago. But my 925 running PforD never got it. So, with the announcement in Germany that Cyan and Denim will roll out concurrently, I have no doubts it's Denim.
In the list of improvements under my Denim Extras screen is one for Glance. Lo and behold, my calendar day/date/next appointment is showing up. Or did that come in Cyan? :)
Now, if I only knew why Denim is better than Black..............
Aaaaaaaaaannnnddd still waiting for the Icon. Nice job, Verizon. Way to support your top-end Windows phone.
My 925 is updating now!! finally my Fitbit will be able to sync!
T-Mobile, on DP running 8.1
I live in Seattle, but am in Atlanta now.
:)
Giving WP til the end of the year. It's been a great 2 years as my main daily driver. Probably won't be getting another WP til Microsoft start treating it seriously. I wonder if they ever thought about making a Surface Phone some time in the near future.
I just Updated my Lumia 925, Cortana cannot connect.
521 Lumia owerns who help made the Lumia significant still are watching and waiting impatiently for the cyan update.
Cool! Downloading with Preview already running on my Device. Also downloading on my wife's L925 without the Preview running.
Holy crap, finally. Am I dreaming?
Downloading update (no preview) now!
Ummm guys my Lumia 925 on Developer preview skipped over Cyan Straight to Denim
Ohh that would be nice!
really?
it says Denim haven't been able to get it to say Cyan no matter what I try. Don't know some people say it's a bug
Just got my Cyan update and another is downloading as I type this.
All I can say is Bye Bye Verizon!
Well, this is it for me and WP - no Cyan/8.1 update on Verizon. My Icon is up for sale. No BlackBerry Passport on Verizon either so I guess I'll try the Moto Turbo next.
Don't quit on WP just because Verizon...
This is new, I think: A little arrow extending out of the wifi symbol on top of the start screen. Don't recall ever seeing that.
Yup :) that's part of what a firmware update can accomplish. Cyan brought that feature. The software and hardware are talking perfectly now, if you will lol
But what does it signify? Just cuz it's there - off and on - doesn't make a better phone, de facto. What does it mean?
Oh sorry i thought you would get it lol it means the Wi-Fi and LTE antennas are pulling in data. When you see the arrows it means something is using data
Well, that sure made my life significantly better!
And also a little arrow on top of LTE
Apparently the update doesn't care if you have PforD or not. It just does it. The only difference, reading through comments, if you've not been running PforD, you will have to go through a number of "pre-updates" before the grand finale. As we had to do on PforD.
TMO, I forgive your for your coyness! (Althoug it would certainly have been ice to give us some assurances on your own forums beyond bullshit "We value you as a customer," kind of pablum.
Tuesday evening, 11PM, east coast of the USA. Running PforD 8.1. Checked Update, yup, a BIG one is downloading. My only issue with PforD 8.1 on the 925 is that when on WFC, SMS doesn't work. Frankly, don't care about Cyan, only the former issue.
My 810, also PforD, says it's up to date. So, apparently the 925 is getting something outside of DforP.
All done. On Denim! Shot right past Cyan. What do I get with Denim that I didn't have with Black?
OS version: 8.10.14176.243. Last previos OS, 8.10.14147.180
So, yes, it's real and it's significant!
You are on Cyan not Denim (My extras & info was showing Denim as of yesterday)
You should have the abilty to to text with WFC enabled now
OK, if my phone says Denim, how is it I'm on Cyan? How does one determine that this announcement is wrong other than you or some others say that's the case? Yes, I already said that the WFC issue does seem to be resolved.
No he is correct.
What happened was a couple weeks ago Microsoft updated Extras and Info and it caused a glitch where it showed phones the Denim name instead of Black.
Make sure you have gone to the store, check for updates, install all app updates. Then make sure you installed both system updates to 8.1 (tmobile released 2 today the first was to get the phones ready)
Then restart your phone and go back into Extras and Info and it should show Cyan
No. It. Doesnt.
Boy, one little premature application and every takes it as gospel forevermore. My app updates are automatic and there never was an Extras that showed Denim. Latest PforD was still running Black before last night.
Some European carriers announced that Cyan and then Denim will be installed simultaneously. OK, well, sequentially.
Lol trust me dude, you dont have Denim.
It seems the Lumia 925 Cyan SW release has a core build of 3051.50009.1424.00xx
I have a Lumia 925 which shows Lumia Denim with a core build of 3051.50009.1439.10416
That core build does not show up when searching Google, are we positive that the Denim has not been pushed to some phones? Can you post your core build ID's on phones that say Cyan and Phones that say Denim?
Waahoo!
Now I can go outside tell everyone my phone is officially up to date.
They have been waiting out there for quite a while.
When I updated my tmo 925 (rm-893) tonight from the dev preview build it is showing as Denim now not cyan.
Extras n info glitch, soft reset your phone and it should say Cyan
Web browser not good for wp8.1 cyan sometimes error and sometimes direct to close by itself
I was getting that kind of behavior from the other day, don't think its the cyan update, I was waiting for the update to do a system restore will do on the weekend and see how it goes.
Web browser not good
I am so glad to finally get the update on my 925. I was on the verge of unlocking it and taking it to at&t because I was tired of t-mobile's crappy support for windows phone. I can stick with them for a bit longer, until the next update... I hope my 521 on dev preview can update easily.
Just updated, things seem much zippier and more fluid
Am I the only one that has Lumia Denim on my 925? I just did the update. I am also on Preview. And I defaulted my phone for the fun of it.
I must say that I feel finally whole ;)
Verizon and Sprint ain't $h!t.
Wow..this took long enough to arrive.
I have some sort of update coming through to my T-Mo 925 as I write.
Knowing T-Mo, it's probably Black.."The Lost Updates"
Getting the update in Chicago. I think the best part about this, after waiting for so long is that my Lumia 925 gets new life and it won`t feel like a 15 month old phone.... for a while at least
They took away one of my favorite features on Xbox Music. No more artist graphic on the Live Tile apparently.Some animations stutter like the notification dropdown. Still checking things out, but I think I need to watch an 8.1 primer.
Not me... Restart your phone.
Just finished updating from the dp. Now my texting finally works, yaaaaaaay!
This is a screenshot of the 2nd set of updates I got after Cyan installed. Obviously running Dev Preview.
http://i.imgur.com/Xooww3i.jpg
I got that too, I'm thinking it was the update 1 and it got rolled back and after the cyan update it just reinstall, that's just me thinking that.
Same as you guys.
The first update was just to get ready for 8.1, on that second notification is when the cyan update came and it re-installed the last 3 builds of the dev preview (if you enabled that of course)
Finally running the official Windows Phone 8.1 cyan update on my 925! My wife's 521 has to wait though
WiFi calling finally works!! MMS works especially over WiFi. Set mine to WiFi preferred. So happy. I have shit service at my house. Matched up with the CellSpot router they sent me for free... Its amazing. Everyone needs this router btw. Its range is triple my router I had just bought which cost me $200. Fantastic! And It never gives issues. Now I will agree it was worth the wait. About time TMO did it right!!
This is the only fix I wanted! Hoping, hoping....
It works beautifully my friend. Start it up and send yourself some pictures and watch the magic! You can tell they put work into it because even when you make a call it congratulates you on making a WiFi call.
As noted further on, I have tested SMS while on WFC, and it does work perfectly.
However, pictures have ZERO to do with WFC. They are sent as data, or via MMS, which uses data. SMS uses voice frequencies like 1900mhz. Actually, it jumps inbetween the moments when voice isn't using the "space." Hint, hint: You may be able to get a text message through when all circuits are very loaded or busy like after an earthquake.
Just got my CellSpot today, I wasn`t setting my hopes to high but you`re right...WIFi calling finally WORKS ! The phone switches very fast from network to wifi and it doesn`t get stuck in wifi calling anymore. I turn my wifi off when I leave home and I set it to "turn back on near favorite places" so it switches back on when I get back to my poor reception home I have yet to try the MMS over wifi calling, if that works as well...I forgoive TMo for releasing the update so freakin` late
This is great, although now, after all this wait, I forget why I cared so much! What am I getting now that I didn't have before, aside from the new bluetooth and some camera updates? Anyone know?
I got the first update to Cyan. Now it's downloading a second update. Anyone know what this might be?
Several dev preview updates that fix things and add things. Sorry I can't be more specific. You shoulda clicked on more info
The original PforD 8.1 required an update that prepared the phone for the "real" 8.1 update. Go figger, no big deal.
I've downloaded something now, it doing the post-gear "We're getting there." Step 5 of 21.
that's what I wondered too. it's like it put us back on the developers preview again and not just the official T-Mobile release. idk, I read the more info is showed like 3 other updates about developers release but wasn't specific to what, just kept saying to make your phone work better and to fix bugs and such... either this is fine... I'm waiting to see new phones next year then bolting from T-Mobile got the lack of support on updates and the limited windowsphone selection they offer... att here I come
I don't even care anymore. I got the preview, and I'm leaving T-Mobile. I've done some research and they tend to be last with many mobile updates. This was very frustrating for me.
I am so happy, yet idk what to do now.....
Yesssssssssssssssyeeeesssssssss. It's finally here
I don't understand. I'm a Dutch T-Mobile customer and my 925 is running Denim. Does it really take months to adjust firmware for the US GSM network?
That's a glitch, nobody has been OTAing Denim yet but its supposed to start soon.
working here as well. money. so catching up with the 90's.
Received the update here. Not sure if its the preview for developers update, but my extras and info is saying Lumia denim now.
Also, I have a problem that I got after installing the preview for developer's update. I can't hear any ringing or people talking through the earpiece. I must use either the speaker or the bluetooth headset. I thought it would be fixed by the original update when it comes out, but its still there.
Anyone who could help me with that?
THANK YOU T-MO!
Texting over Wi-Fi calling works again thanks to this update. Yes!!
Well whaddaya know... I got something that claims to be WP 8.1...
And.....3 hours of spinning gears...fantastic......... -_-
Im on denim not cyan, can anyone else confirm? If not I feel extra super duper special....makes me wish I had my 1520 still lol
I assumed you were in the USA, another poster says his 925 is on Denim. T-Mobile USA is handing out Cyan today.
Just finished installing the update on my 925.
Got it officially as of 4pm MST. Lumia Cyan 8.1. ^_^
YES. SWEET MOTHER OF GOD YES. I THOUGHT IT WOULD NEVER COME.
Yay, I get cyan on my 925 the day before it's replacement arrives lol
Oh well, from what I've read the 925 gets none of the new cyan features anyway.. so just a stability patch i guess
Got the update works great thanks Microsoft and Tmobil
Yay, I just got it! I figured T-Mo would wait til 12/31 to release it, lol
Just got my update to Cyan - T-Mobile, Lumia 925
I want to upgrade from the 521 to the 925 so bad but the 925 is pretty pricey
Check eBay. I got mines for 155
In Missouri. Now if I can just remember why I wanted Cyan so badly...
On TMobile with Lumia 925. Have dev preview and just downloaded and installed CYAN
I just updated my TMO 925 to Cyan...went off without a hitch. Will be nice to have wi-fi calling back, as well as texting from the airplane. Seattle here...
Mine updated to Lumia cyan just now. Lumia 925, tmobile. Central FL, USA.
Sweet i just mine updated. Bout freakin time
Edit: Update done and it's now on denim way to go tmo
You may want to double check that unless you are not talking about the L925...
http://1drv.ms/1tf7Yn3 screenshot
A shot of the Lumia 925 with this on its screen?
http://1drv.ms/1FTJy9p here you go
There was an article the other week that said an update to Extras+Info was resulting in it saying on phones that they were now updated to Denim. Not the case, though. It's really running Cyan.
Update is downloading on my phone as we speak. Whoo!!!
LOL
With T-Mobile here in Utah and just forced the updated on my 925. I'm on the developers preview also and updated like a charm.
Awesome! I'm now running cyan.
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!!!!
And the 810 falls further behind.
Just updated to Cyan with DP installed as well.
Getting it now and I am on developer preview.
Just got an update of 105mb. Downloading now. Fingers crossed.
Update: Cyan loaded up. Sweet! Also got another dev OS update. Can't remember the numbers.
Finally I will get to play with Cortana!
T-Mobile must have heard me selling one of my friends on the Galaxy Note 4. I replaced my HTC One M8 with it hoping T-Mobile will get the One M8 for Windows. Samsung is supposed to issue a Qi charging plate for the Note 4, so my investment there won't be wasted. I'm just not confident of getting a flagship Lumia before the end of next year at the earliest. The One is a beast when it comes to music and that is what I mainly use my Luma for anyway, so between the Note 4 and the 1M84Win I should be good. Of course, if Cyan and 8.1 are convincing on my L925, I may just rock that til it breaks...
EDIT
I am in the west in Nevada if anybody is monitoring what regions appear to be updating.
I have 8.1 DP and just updated to cyan.
Updating now. In New York.
Checked update just now and it's downloading something....
L925 - Developer Preview
Tmobile Seattle, WA
I'm so glad I left Verizon for AT&T. My 1520 has Cyan already.
Downloaded and running!
Two weeks after I install another ROM for Cyan, this comes out. Oh well. :)
Looks like it finished updating and it is now running Lumia Cyan. Sweet!!
My L925 is downloading the (or, an...?) update right now.
Ok, I got Cyan. But I just got prompted for another update.
I received three Developer Preview updates after installing Cyan. Microsoft must have been holding them back.
After updating to Cyan I also got another DP update. Likely to bring it back to 8.1.1 after Cyan brought it down to 8.1
Downloading updates 16%...
Prepping to install now, got to be the update since I already have the latest Dev Preview version. Yeah!!
My 925 on T-Mobile downloaded a not-quite-Cyan update about an hour ago, and is finishing up the Cyan update now. It's time.
Awesomeness!
Finally!!!
It looks like my L925 is updating to something. Hope it's 8.1 and Cyan...
Mine is downloading the update! Woo-hoo!
I just got it! Hallelujah!
Got to admit that, for once, EE UK were on the case and I've been lucky to have both 8.1 and Cyan since July (925).
Finally
*sigh* VERIZON
Praise God!
So are you guys going to unlock my thread now?
Did say awhile back that T-Mobile was testing the revised update, and that they were going to release late october-mid November lol
T-Mobile getting updates before Verizon? What about Verizon? When is it Verizons turn?
Never. VZW has forgotten it has ever sold a Windows phone.
I wish they had announced the 930 instead. Or at least 830. And then I would have considered switching from AT&T.
WOW, T-mobile the carrier who hates their WP customers beat Verizon who also hates them but has more options to an update.
Relying on carriers for updates is such an antiquated method. If it's one thing Apple has gotten right, it's their method of updates and backup/restoring. Android is such a mess. Microsoft is somewhere in the middle.
Aug. 3 2015, agreed I finally also got the Denimupdate from tmo, want to see wm 10 asap
Verizon is giving MS the middle finger and saying F u MS
Seems like a gooed enough reason to give that very same finger back to verizon.
Yup I totally agree bro
Unfortunately , Verizon is giving us, the customer, the finger, not MS
finally, do we still have to uninstall developers preview first? can someone tell me? thanx in advance
No, it will install on a PfD phone (it did on mine, anyways).
yeah I got it automatically thanx...
Yes! I just bought a 925 on eBay and its arriving tomorrow! Couldn't be happier
Bravo for T mobile!
YESSSS FINALLYYYYYY THE TIME IS UPON US
Love the enthusiasm...
Lol ohh I'm on 8.1.1 already
But i have been dying for the Cyan firmware. And now my two friends can experience cortana and notification center :)
I truly understand, yes, I do!
Downloading and hopefully installing Lumia 925 8.1 update at this moment. Finally.
I don't even care anymore. Using Tmo unlocked 925...
Does that mean you already have 8.1? I have been thinking about getting my wife's 925 unlock, but I don't know what that will mean for updates. I'm thinking about going to cricket. Will updates still be pushed out by t-mobile or cricket?
I have an unlocked T-Mobile 925 that I'm currently using on Cricket. I have the Developer Preview and have been running 8.1 for months now. I just got the update and my phone is still running 8.1 but now with Cyan.
So even though I'm not on T-Mobile anymore, I'm still getting the push (which had to have come from T-Mobile)
Cricket here I come. Thanks.
Hey WPC so if the 925 is just a favorite why don't you sell its screen protector?
Screw Verizon and their dead silence on the whole Cyan mess
I can give this enough ++++++
I gave up on Verizon and my 928 and Icon. I now have Cyan on my new 1520.3 on AT&T.
Shout outs to the 1520.3 that's unlocked, carrier free, and SCREAMING on tmobiles network! Lols. I'm never buying a phone from a carrier again! I've been on 8.1 since May, cyan since it First came out!
1520.3 Master Race Owns you ALL
I fairness our 1520.3's were updated after AT&T, but at least it was still reasonable. Updating this long after the fact is not reasonable.
Hwy guys I'm already downloading the update. Happy me
Damn, your carriers are slow over there...! :-/
They are on life support....
No update here yet. There shouldn't be any issues if we're running DP, right?
Congrats to the 925 owners yall deserve the update. Happy for you all.
Tmobile need to announce the HTC m8 WP release date
And Verizon?
nope which is why I left for AT&T.
Just checked for updates, downloading and installing now (official T-Mobile 925). No details of what is in the update (8.1? Cyan? Tribbles?).
Looks like it may be an interim update. Still a version of 8.0..., but to allow an easier update to 8.1. I will post a screenshot when the 5-10 minute cycle is complete.
I can confirm 100% that I now officially have WP 8.1 and Cyan on T-Mobile 925 in Los Angeles. I'll post some screenshots shortly. Of note, I had 16 application upgrades after the update, so check those.
I've sent Daniel Rubino the screenshots, so hopefully he can update the article.
Here is the first update. It takes a bit less that the actual 8.1 update.
Edit: it seems the comments do not display images on Windows Phone Central, dispite them being visible in my comment box window.
I received the update in two parts:
Sounds like you weren't on Dev Preview, correct? You were running 8.0?
Correct, I was running 8.0.
I was on Dev Preview 8.1.1 and boy did it take a while lol
It did the smaller update but because I had 8.1 already installed idk the phone acted up then a pop up for the second update it came with cyan it re-installed 8.1 and in the same update cycle took me back up to 8.1.1 build 14192, it basically installed the three previous 8.1 builds at once.
After a restart the phone is running amazing. I knew Cyan would help, it finally feels like 8.0 stability and smooth
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