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Hands-on with Windows 10 Mobile build 10581

Earlier today, Microsoft released yet another build of Windows 10 Mobile for Insiders on the Fast Ring. Build 10581 is now ready for you to try out.

The good news? Well, there is plenty to go around. For one, for the first time since the last two builds you do not need to rollback to Windows Phone 8.1 first, which gets rid of a pain point. Additionally, performance is outstanding with this build, building on top of the excellent gains earned in build 10572. Indeed, there are some smoother animations like the fade in effect when the lockscreen clears that make using this release more enjoyable.

We've only spent a few minutes with this release, but you can see it in action on our Lumia 1520. For what it is worth, our Hey Cortana would launch for training, but we never got much further than that. Perhaps an app update will come along to address that, or we'll have to wait until the next release. Your mileage may vary.

Finally, we're excited to hear that battery drainage problems should be mostly resolved. We'll have to spend the next few days with it to verify, but it sounds promising.

Let us know in comments your thoughts on build 10581 and if think Microsoft has done a good enough job thus far.

Here's what's been fixed and what still broken in Windows 10 Mobile build 10581

Need more help? Jump into our Windows 10 Mobile forums and sound off in comments about your experience with Windows 10 Mobile build 10572. Is this the turning point? Let us know!

Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

611 Comments
  • Battery life still sucks unfortunately
  • My L520 has great battery life even in previous build.
  • How is the new build running on your L520?
  • Same here
  • How did you get it installed on your 520? For the life of me I can't get it on my metropcs 521... I'll try again on this build... But I'm not holding my breath...
  • I did update to the latest version but the phone freezing.  Not responding ever and hold the Volume Down and Power and works reboot or removing the battery I don't now what happened with phone and why not working. The problem is very strange.
  • What i hate the most in lumias is.... they still need a restart every time we change a certain setting, for eg. Language or region or even the haptic feedback. They ain't improving that! The second thing that i hate is the loading screen or the resuming screen! The third bad thing is the store! 4th one is connectivity! Apps like shareit are a headache to operate on lumias. 5th is the interface! It's a hotch potch! The messaging app shows all of the black screen in the background. Clock, alarm, phone apps are too simple and just matte, which give more of a junk plastic look! God! When are they going to improve?? Posted while running with the ninja cat
  • Ever thought of jumping system? You don't seem to be very pleased by WP.
  • lol I actually love my lumia 930 after 6 years on iphones im very happy ith the phone and the 30ish apps i use daily and the 267ish i now have installed.  It all runs brilliantly smoothly and well my favorite apps and thats alot of them are the ones built to sit in with the whole windows envoirnemt and not the ones that fit with android or iphone, after all its a windows phone.I love the alrm clock, actual;ly i used to love my iphones ios6 it was when it desided to go with more detail i kinda lost a little interest in them, sometimes less is more and in my case i love my dark theme with its simple to use calender, email and well clock and alarm.  You can go alot more complex on calender or email if you wish, which is great for some people but for simple little me i like it sinple lol.  Conectivity.  Are you talking aobut a specisfic phone you have used? im curious.  My 930 actually seems to hold signals from wifi  (not internet causae im with a terrible sp in  my area and that vodaphone gurr.)  Actually i see a couple of my iphone friends loosing conectivity with blutooth or and wifi alot more than my 930 and thats in a iphone 6 and 6s plus lol.  I personally love haptic feedback, i dont know if you can turn it off im guessing you can but i dont casue i like it.  My phone actually does a few things my iphones never did.  Egample: puting phone on table while on a phone call automaticly puts speakerphone on and picking it up again it goes off.  Turn it upside down its on mute, all features i use and love dearly.  We also have a miricast based casting experience same as android but alot better in my opinion that apples go it alone airplay version.  AGain my blutoogh speakers all conect via nfc, something i personally use on a 2-3 times daily basis.  No iphone would do that today as it stands as their nfc is im told restricted to just apple watch and apple pay.  I never had nffc speakers when i have the iphone but i would certainly miss it now.  Then thers things like the great 4k camera..  The vid below was done just on a lumia 930 and with only limited light, not bad for a phone.  And no draging droping or gable conecting as the video was teleported over to my desktop for editing as if by magic, onedrive, something even my good fanboy apple friend was left speachless with lol and thats hard to do.  So personally i really dont think its  about when are they gona improve casue theyve been great for a while, i think its more like when do we get intergration with devices(coming now) and well will wee see apps build up.   Heres the vid made soly on a lumia 930 and edited on desktop with no wires or cables atached.  Im still amazed at the ease of it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JtUGJZRh60     I loved my iphone experience i really did but live tiles and the whole ui to me is so forward thinking from microsoft, i really hope they suceed cause i just dont wana go what i consider backwards back to icon only based phone, ii love and find live tiles very useful.
  • I have a T-Mob 521.  The previous 2 builds forced me to use the recovery tool to downgrade to 8 and then update to 8.1 to 10.  This build let me install it over 10572 with no problems.  I usually open the Insider app and go through all the options before going into settings and updates.
  • My L620 too
  • can u help me ??? i last updatee windows 10 build 10536 but this build many bugs n lags n decrease battery life so i downgrade 8.1 .. :/ :( can u explain lumia 520 latest build 10581 any bugs n loags n battery life ???  
  • Seriosuly? The update is out few hours and you know that already? Kewl.
  • Yea, no question, even in 8.1 after a nuke, it takes a day or 2 to stablize the battery level...
  • yewh i agree with that, its been like that for my 930 since day 1 over a year ago, but amazingly enough since this latest 82 build i havent experienced that 1 day settle down wait at all, im gobsmacked how good the battery has been and remans to this day, not my battery expectation on future phones and devises will have a very high expectation.
  • Battery life was so much better with the prior 10572 build on my Lumia 1020.  Battery life so far after updating this morning (4 hours ago), seems to be on par with the 10572 build as well.  Only extended time will utlimately tell.
  • Same here as battery life is way better on this build (for my Lumia 930). For the Hey Cortana feature I've noticed it will only train your voice if you put the phone really close to your mouth and speak in a high pitch voice
  • trained cortana in my normal voice ...but i did do a hard reset after updating to this build  
  • Hard reset on this build didn't work for me. Still can't get Cortana to hear me in the training process.
  • Bro is the current build stable enough to use on Lumia 1020 which is my daily driver...let me know...thanx
  • Definitely. 
  • Yes ofcourse the previous build is very smooth so as present...
  • I hadn't updated to a build for about 4-5 builds so I was still dealing with the loading bug I had to bypass through cortana and periodic texting blackouts (my wife hated this), but after running like 4 updates today everything is WAY better, smoothness, responsiveness, lack of bugs, etc.
  • My 1020 is working fantastic, much faster, no problems with resume glitch so far, using this as my daily device.
  • I seem to be having some problems with my 1020.  My MMS/SMS live tile and notifications don't work.  Outlook mail notification doesn't work either and also missed calls+ voicemail motifications. Also, the screen is wobbles.
  • I was wondering this as well. There is no way you know. You may highly suspect it, but save the final verdict for after the install and updates have settled. Also, if you're running something like Facebook beta, check on that. I had excellent battery after the last build on my 929 but it started getting hot and draining quickly after I installed Facebook beta yesterday. Maybe it's something else other than the build. The only way to know is update it, reset to factory and test. Then start installing apps a few at a time. If the issue comes up after a particular group of apps is installed then you'll be able to narrow it down to one of those 3 or 4. If it happens before any apps are installed, then its the build or your hardware. Get scientific on that biotch.
  • I noticed that WhatsApp was heating my1520 up quite a bit... Then there was an update for the app and all has been good since.
  • well unfortunately the battery app on windows phone doesnt show how many mAh the phone is using so its all just a guestimate via usage/percentage remaining/times since 100%. WP7 homebrew had a battery app that showed the usages and whatnot and im sure there is some tool the MS team has to check whats actually using battery and whatnot but its not something that we can actually use.   If i recall it was on my samsung focus. you would dial into the firmware and get into the diagnostic tools and it would show more detail than any app we can get.  probably an API restriction. who knows.
  • Just curious, how can you know already?
  • Prior to 10572, my 1020 would be dead after 4 hours... Now its comparable to 8.1.
  • Loon at your app list, it is probably still porting the apps from your old build. That is super resource intensive.
  • How do I know? Because I've been using it for a few hours and compared to 8.1 it still sucks, How do I know???? Seriously going to ask me that?
  • Yes, everyone is asking because it takes a couple of days after updating for it to stabilize completely, it is known.
  • Ikr lol, the people who comment here are ridiculous. You know because you know, very simple.
  • Yeah can't even say anything without being attacked
  • To even comment on battery life just a few hours into a new build is pretty pathetic. Not sure if you're simply trolling.
  • To call someone pathetic because they made a comment about battery is pathetic, everyone took it to the heart, just chill
  •   cant post pics in comments? lame! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/366/396/f8a.gif
  • Chill out, I was commenting on the comment, not the poster.
  • Knowing and jumping to conclusions are very different
  • During the first 2 hours there will be a mass of background data downloading, app updates, caching and so on. This kills the battery. Give it a day or two to stabilise. For me, 10572 was almost as good on battery as 8.1, while prior builds were awful. I'm expecting even better from this one.
  • Yep battery life sucks balls. I have had it installed for 1 & 1/2 hours with barely anyuse and it's already at 56%. Lumia Icon.
  • Batteries need 2 days to fully know what the experience will be.
  • No they really don't though. Never needed two days before don't need two days now. Battery life sucks on this build.
  • I used up all my balls to ask a girl out on a date and then these comments about battery problems :'(
  • Did you get the date?
  • That is not true. There is no way to tell a battery performance after an OS build this quickly. The last build is a great example. For the first 24 hours I was showing 2.5% usage or so. After a couple of days it leveled out to approximately 3.5% or so, which is my normal usage from 8.1. The OS needs time to calibrate and calculate the usage to the mAh. Edit: Also, for me, so far it doesn't suck - but i don't know for sure yet. I pulled off the charger at 7ish CST this morning. Updated when it came out then ran a 2.5 hour conference call from it (while messaging and check WP Central - while others were presenting, hehe) I am currently at 52% and have done a ton with it.
  • When I installed iOS 9.0.2 as an update to 8.1 on my iPad, apart from the battery used for the update itself, the iPad behaved as usual. about 1-2% over next 12 hours. I sincerely don't undersand the concept of why Windows gets a 2 day handicap here. And please remember the same boring song was sang when we all updated from 8 to 8.1 RTM, so I am not speaking only of beta builds. If it sucks, it sucks, and some people tell it right away. Why does one have to wait to tell? iOS can update anything it needs to and be done with eating my battery after 15-30 minutes. What makes you people hold Windows to lesser standards o "4 hours is not enough to tell?" - aren't we aspiring to glorify the best mobile OS here?
  • Hino thankyou for being the only person that has logic here.
  • Logic? he is comparing a different OS that does things differently plus it was not some unfinished Build that MS gave its Users the privilege to check out before the official release.
  • Well, then everyone's experience, or perceived experience is different. In my experience, (in my job I have had the pleasure of carrying and using hundreds of handsets over the years - all OSs - except firefox OS, never used that) all batteries have needed time to re-calibrate their usage patterns. Maybe not two full days (48hrs) as I stated, but a couple charge cycles, to really show actual usage on the handset. Now there are factors to this of course. Calibration to the OS and heavy usage when the update happens (both from using more due to checking it out and all of the hidden processes that are running in the background). There is no way you know actual usage immediately as you have stated.
  • Hello Hino, it looks like this OS does a lot of behind the scenes work in the first hours. When they say two days they exaggerate but you can't judge battery life in the first hours, we learned it during the insider preview, we all had terrible battery life the first day after installation then it usually got better (not good enough till today). I'm finally experiencing great battery life with this build and I've only used it for some hours so this time I expect my phone to finally last 24h again like it lasted before installing w10. I'll sleep and test it tomorrow!
  • The supposed training period is hogwash. It's setup and installation ...people with a million apps, etc. Once all of that completes battery use "is stabilized". Well, duh! Makes little sense to say that there is some kind stabilization required, otherwise. It's all anecdotal. For instance, I've only had battery problems with the build prior. That is it. But I also reset after all updates and do NOT restore backups so that I don't have to deal with redownloading apps etc until I want.
  • Seriously: It is a well known FACT that OS Builds and Hardware DO take time to optimize together and this IS TRUE of iOS, Android, Windows. Anyone says differently, they know nothing. It can take DAYS. Any phone engineer will tell you.
  • Have you tried a reset without a restore? Worked flawlessly for me
  • are there really people who update their phones and don't do a factory reset after it?
  • Yes there are, and its mostly because there are games that still dont have cloud saving. I have spent real money on In App Purchases and would lose it all if i hard reset. 
  • but then, that doesn't make sense for them to install a preview and don't expect to hard reset and lose their progress. it's like they want everything without wanting to sacrifice something in return but then, they complain how bad it runs. anyway I find it silly it's about "games", people seem to waste so much of their lives on games, especially mobile games. so I wouldn't understand why I want a buggy release but my progress fine, when I could reset it and get a better experience.
  • For me its super smooth without any hard reset/Soft Reset on L920...
  • I have every build, though I am going to not try to on this one and see how it goes.
  • I don't want to lose HERE Transit so I always try updating without hard reset. So far I've had to roll back to 8.1, install transit (but nothing else) and then update. Just updated from previous build (before last weeks build) and so far seems like no hard reset is needed.. Fingers crossed
  • I can't speak to transit, but Drive I have been able to get from my library after resetting.
  • Lol just got around to looking for new source for astoria pc deployment tool & wondering if this build has the files or not(on l929)
  • I can get all apps from My Library, including HERE Maps, Transit and Drive. Another app Vevo which was pulled from the store i am still able to install that app too.
  • Did a reset after installing 10572 but not this time and still have 91% battery life after 9 hours inuding the update.As for Here transit, never used the app but as mentioned, Here now and drive retain your savd data if you logon.
  • Not needed
  • Here apps are not working on win 10
  • yes me, i sometimes do and i sometimes done.  I havent for this build as im told its all good lol.  But im actually talking about restoring to, 8.1 anmd starting again.  I have actually never done or needed to do a factory reset.  Can i ask you why i should do that.  Am i doing it wrong?
  • No, you never have to do a full reset to 8.1 unless your update fails. People had to in the previous two builds because that's as literally th inky way to upgrade. But if you upgrade to the new build you have no reason whatsoever to go to 8.1.
  • I made sure my phone was plugged in during the update (because updates suck batteries dry).  I too have the Lumia Icon and my battery life is AMAZING! and i know this after 3 hours.
  • Had this build for 2 days now (Lumia 930). Batery usage is comparable to win 8.1 already. 'Hey cortana' also works fine. Already using this as a daily driver now. So far so good!
  • Every post you make on this forum/site you demonstrate your ignorance, maybe think before posting or at least say you are sorry everytime people shows you your ignorance. (not an insult, ignorant as in not knowing things and yet trying to look smart)
  • check the apps installed cause i had a battery issue 2 times in the last 6 months and each time it ended up being a no9n microsoft app lol.  It happens.  I say this caus the battery life on my 930 with this latest build is great its like it used to be on my 8.1 phone but then again it could be a little better.ive used my phone alot totay, at least been on you tube 10-14 times with 10-20 minute visits, i played 1 hour of a game and read internet for a couple of hours, ive onoly listened to 3-4 songs and ive downloaded 4-5 app updates and i was fully charged at 6am friday  now its 5 am saturday the next day and my phone is at 74% so im like wow.   Im under the belief that the icon and the 930 is prety much the same phone so id defo check your apps out.  The battery app checker thing in windows 10 will give you a idea whats using it. (well mostly lol).   hope that helps, love to hear if you get it sorted dude.
  • for me its bneen awsoem on my 930, and i tohugh the icn was the same phone, sucking balls was the 2 hours my iphone 4s used to take after a developer patch and the 6 months it took apple to fix it, i have not been in that position with microsoft on insider at all.  Actually a couple of times i saw fast battery drain and it ended up being a new app each time lol.  Lucky for me my 930 seems to have gained battery life from windows 8.1 and i tohugh 8.1 on my 830 was prety decent.  Have you tried a hard rest?.
  • Battey life sucked if the previous build too. You need to give it a day or two to stabiles
  • No it always starts working well right away or doesn't the previously builds were the same way.
  • It's warming because it's busy. Don't you know how computers work? You at least get that it's most likely some form of software... Not necessarily the apps, could be this build, but the hardware ramps up when under load.
    The computer throws power at problems to resolve them. That creates heat. Something isn't right but I doubt its this particular build. Lollipop turned Galaxy S5s into hotplates back in the summer, but it wasn't the phones or the build, it was just a bad install. Factory reset resolves usually.
  • I meant working not warming.
  • lol, you are calling him an idiot but you are the one who typed it wrong before you edited. And with your little 'attacking' people bandwagon above. Hi pot, he is kettle.
  • I obviously missed the "idiot" part but it's no big deal. Nothing personal. I read my post now and I came across rude by saying "don't you know how computers work?" I didn't mean it to be rude. In any case, I don't think either of us meant to attack one another. I phrased it the way I did as a verbal jab, but not mean-spirited. Just matching the tone of his/her early posts.
  • Yeah sorry, I got rod of that word once he called me out and I realized how rude it was which I should have realized I just felt attacked and jump back fast. Personal flaw sorry.
  • We're all here for the same reason so we are part of a team. No hard feelings. Sorry for my part in it. Have a good rest of your day :)
  • i used to think that but this latest build seems to be great from day 1.
  • i disabled cortana to get my battery life back at least most of it
  • Quite the opposite since Build 10572 on my 1020. I can get 24 hours of normal use after a reset without a restore.
  • After a day or so on build 10572, I could get a day and a half or so from my 1520.
  • Battery life for me is better than it ever was on 8.1
    Just wait a couple days people, your settings are still being migrated and causing lots of drain
  • How can you know that, it twas just released hours ago
  • Because Gabe said in the insider blog post that battery life has been improved from last build, and the battery life from the last build was already better than 8.1 for me
  • Turns out we were right, batter life still sucks for people and even worse is the display auto audjest isn't working correctly and won't go down all the way anymore. Texting is not immediate, messages don't send right away, and notifications don't happen right away. These are the big bugs people re complaining about and I happen to have all 4 on my phone yay for me. -_-.
  • My batterylife is awsome on my 930 with this build, im actually more impresssed with battry likfe now than i was last year lol.  I just tried texting after i read your reply, its instant for me on my 930. My notifications work great exept for skype but thats still in the prieview stages. I am actually using smaller than recomended text size and also have a extra colum of tiles on my 930, it kinda acts more like a mini tablet now with certain apps like email and messaging and its been flawless on my lumia phone930.  I have 2 bugs bug both are visual graphic errores one in app store and the other in program menu and it isnt effecting my reliable speed new build in any way but visual. v Again battery life for me on the 930 is stunning, id love to know if it is better than it was on 8.1 with a proper test lol.   What phone are you useing?
  • Then you are definitely in the minority here. The opposite of what the feedback and forums are saying. Good for you! Sucks for me lol.
  • perhaps you should do a full reset of the device after installing the update. 
  • Daniel, Hope you sent Paul Thurrott Birthday wishes :)
  • What a knob u r
  • My battery life on this build and the last one is better than on w8.1. L930
  • my battry life settled down in the other build but in this build it feels like i got the great battery life back on my phonre.  I have the 930
  • Still downloading for my L520
  • Same case here. Stuck on 4% for past 4 hours. Do i need a reboot or a reset?
  • I was stuck on 0% like 10 minutes and then it just went up to 21% fast.
  • I keep getting error 0x80073712 :C
  • I turn off my Lumia 930 and then back on. After that head to Phone Update and it should start updating faster (it gets stuck at 5% for about 10 mins and then jumped to 90% and onwards)
  • I had no idea there was a build until it asked me to schedule a restart. After that it was really smooth on my L735
  • Yes, After downloading update, there was no Hiccups. Fortunately Installation was very smooth.
  • 0%... -.-'
  • How is it running on your L520?
  • I can't even get past 10166 on my 640. Still trying to download 10512, 10514, and 10536 after 2 weeks.
  • Day by day getting more closer to a daily driver. Hope the battery issues resolved. The animations look smoother
  • Mostly yeah! I use L520 and Battery life was awesome on pervious build so I hope it's even better (if it can be) in this build ^^  
  • -They seem to have removed the 'loading' screens, and replaced them with an extended opening screen for whatever app is being opened. This suits me fine.
    -Glance screen now works on my Lumia 820.
    -The prior search history no longer gets stuck on screen when searching for things in Edge (the only way to get around that issue before to rotate the screen).
    -Transitions seem smoother
    Although there are no new features, the build feels far smoother. It has made my 820 feel like a brand new phone! Good work MS.
  • Insider hub is not working for me wat about others
  • Yeah great daily driver. Unless you want to surf to web sites that contain the letters s, u or q in the URL. /s
  • I just went to Spotify.com....no issues?
    What issues are you facing with those letters? Seems kind of random!
  • This is a random bug in W8.1 as well. Do a soft reset or two, it usually goes away after a while.
  • I have the same problem. Are there any solutions yet? It was happening with build 10172 too. I think it has something to do with the language pack. I have German installed
  • UPDATE: Fixed the start screen issue. I went into settings and changed background from 'my pictures' to none. That seemed to do the trick. However, I am noticing the bad battery life like others.
    My animations still seem slow. For that matter, Windows central is loading slow too, and I'm having a weird issue with the start screen where there is a mirror image going on side by side and with the background. Resetting and hard resetting don't seem to be doing anything to fix it.
  • Uh..so...no pun intended but seems faster???
  • Very. Even than the previous build.
  • How long did the update take to DL and fully install? I want to do this after work, but I have to leave for class about 90 minutes later.
  • Not enough time trust me, just wait until you have more than 2 hours free
  • Well, it depends on your device and what build you're coming from. My update took about 20-30 minutes coming from 10572 on a 1520. Smooth, quick, and painless!
  • If took about 15-20 minutes in Lumia 640 coming from 10572...! So far so good...smoother and no issue so far for me and so no hard reset is required which is good
  • I've been trying for over 2 hours with no luck...
  • Restart your phone and see if that helps.
  • Well a 640 coming from 8.1 it should be completed about the time the next build releases. The good news is the gears are not switching directions like on 10549.
    Film at 11:00.
  • do you have any lock screen issues in 10581(l 640)
  • Maybe 30 minutes total for me.
  • It installed on about 40 minutes for me, maybe less. But it's not that different from the previous so you can wait and update later
  • Well, I'm back on 10536, I didn't do the recovery to the newer builds. I'll just wait the extra 3 hours until class is over before I update.
  • You're miliage will vary.  It took me 30 minutes to upgrade from 10572 to 10581 on my L1020 this morning.  If you have an external battery pack, I'd connect to it if you're going to upgrade while being mobile heading to class.
  • How's the camera performance on the Lumia 1020 in this build?
  • Under an hour for my 1020.
  • 45 minutes on Lumis 635 from Build 10536
  • For me it was the fastest update so far, maybe 40-50 mins from tapping "check for update" to booting to start screech
  • On my 930 it downloaded and installed in under an hour. Works perfect!
  • It took almost 3 hours for haul process on my Lumia 638. I used 3g network to download.
  • Waitng for the hands on .. and finally its here.. Thanks Daniel
  • It took about half hour for me on my old Lumia 928, last build was very stable and will see how this build is. If stable as last build then will install on my daily driver Lumia icon
  • This one is far more stable.
  • I've heard the Icon/930 have some issues that other Lumias don't. I'm going to wait to install it on my 930 for 1 or 2 more builds.  I'll update my 920 when I get home.
  • I have an Icon, the last build and this one have been great. Been using as my daily driver for work too with no deal breaking issues.
  • Same here.
  • That's great to know.  Thanks!
  • No issue on my 930. The previous build was great, that one is near perfect... Smoother and faster. Even the Windows Central app now launch instantly (as it did on 8.1) :-)
  • No issues at all on my 930 here, it's defo daily driver material.
  • Sensor core not working
  • Battery life with old build was good in my Lumia 928
  • Battery also very good on my Lumia Icon! If Battery in this build is at least as good then I'm happy! Have finally startd using Win10 M on my DD device. Don't expect to be going back ... Ever!
  • Solid apart from storage issue, nice to not "have to' do a Hard reset
  • Gabe mentioned that apps moved to a SD nigh crash when opened, a reboot will fix it.
    So I guess we can download to phone and move to the SD.
    Right?.....
  • After restore, I'm getting apps installing to sd only lol
  • I like to see how the visual voicemail look like ?
  • http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-10-mobiles-new-visual-voice-mail-user-int...
  • Don't see much change
  • It's 700 MB
  • Most builds are around that.
  • Yep, 681 MB to be precise
  • I took the plunge and upgraded my Icon. Same as you, Hey Cortana doesn't respond. But it's fast and cool, tho the phone feels a little warm. And what the hell is that blue dot in the keyboard for?
  • It's like a digital laptop nub to move the curser to a different spot to masher changes when typing. Swipe up, down, left or right on it. The color is your theme color
  • It's like the nub on Thinkpads, lets you move the cursor around.
  • on't have hey cortana in my settings when I search.  Odd.  (lumia 1520)
  • took a minute to find it it's under settings->extras    
  • Dot serves as joystick or mouse. Use it to move the cursor up, down or sideways.
  • Tap and hold and drag(left, right up or down). It's for the cursor. Editing.
  • Moves the cusor.
  • The blue dot is to move your cursor around while typing... tap and hold then slide left/right/up/down. Easier to pinpoint where you want to put the cursor for editing.
  • The release notes mention that you have to go into the settings and turn on Hey Cortana (I don't think it is currently on by default). You may want to double check your settings.   The blue dot is for moving the cursor around while you are typing.
  • Thanks for the tip, it solves my terrible texting skills! Nice!
    Cortana will respond to my voice sometimes, but won't open to hey Cortana, and forgot the name I told her to call me. But I can live with it.
  • I can't seem to be able to download it. It says "Your device is up to date." I'm running version 10549, do I need to roll that back to 8.1 before being able to go further forward? I hope not. Any more info will help, thanks. I'm running a Lumia 830 (unlocked version)
  • Try going into Windows Insider and slecting Fast Ring again. This seems to help sometimes.
  • Try going into the Windows Insider app and re-enrolling into the fast ring. I was getting the same message until I re-enrolled.
  • Hey cortana is working fine on my 1520
  • Same here
  • Me too
  • Doesn't work for me. She doesn't even hear my voice when I try to train her.
  • Me neither. Cortana can hear my voice okay within Cortana, but not when trying to train the 'Hey Cortana' app.
  • Same here in my Lumia Icon. Can't get Cortana to hear my voice in the training part.
  • I downloaded the latest build and it's still not showing in my Settings_Extras folder
  • What is the size of this update file.
  • Does it fix the problem pushing notifications to band?
  • Working fine with my Band 2, no issues.
  • Thanks Daniel! 10572 was working poorly with band and I had to revert back to 8.1 (only emails are pushed normally, phones minutes delayed, no general notifications at all). Guess I might give this one a try!
  • How about Band 1? Was the 2 having the same issues as the 1 before?
  • Please stop saying "Hey Cortana" Daniel, you're triggering Cortana on my Surface! :)
  • :P
  • Daniel, did you do a hard/factory reset after you installed this build?? My Icon also doesn't allow training Hey Cortana
     
  • Same here, still can't train Cortana, but she hears my voice perfectly when I tap the microphone within the app.
  • *triggered*
  • M8 updated and working fast and smooth. Motions work now and battery is awesome.
  • Motion is fixed?! Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I miss that function, but the previous build works really well so I deal with it.
  • Making folders on start screen still does not work in L635!
    Also restart kills the Wi-Fi so needs manual reconnect.
  • Should I install this on my HTC M8 on Verizon?
  • Small things make the biggest splash. Open the message app and go into one of the people you texted last. Then flip your phone into landscape you should be able to scroll between all the people you texted.
  • Thats awesome.
  • been there for a while now, its good though
  • i have this same layout with outlook on the last build by changing the text scaling. what is your text scaling now?
  • I'm still on 10536 and just tried this out. I had never noticed it before now :) Great little feature!
  • Yeah I found it by accident, it's small but it really impressed me lol... Didn't take much I see
  • If you switch to the highest display resoltution, you dont even need to flip to landscape. You will see the circles on the left. If you flip, it looks like outlook.
  • The action center still broken on the lock screen
  • I want Motion Data back, please.
  • Agreed
  • It's a known issue with some of the Lumia apps. They haven't been fully set up on the Win 10 store yet. There was a post on the MS answers site about this. So, motion and other bits are not working.
  • i have microsoft 640 and cant update motion data they going to fix this or not. please help
  • motion data working here on the 930 just updated it works fine sofar  
  • Yup, my Hey Cortana does not finish training. Lumia Icon
  • Hey Cortana is working on my Icon now. It took a few tries on the 3rd or 4th part of the training. It seems like the farther away I held the phone from me the better it recognized my voice in training. Eventually it did start working for me though...
  • My L1520.2 still can't train Hey Cortana. Interestingly, when I start the training, and don't say anything, it keeps on listening. But when I speak, it quickly comes back to say it didn't catch it, so at least it is catching something.
  • lumia 930 UK Hey cortana working
  • Stuck on 26% downloading
  • My 930 is stuck on 0% downloading.
  • I think I'm about ready to go Insider Program for my laptop as well. I'm just too eager for the new flagships to finally arrive into stores and the new W10M journey to start. Let's go!
  • Is there still a need to do a hard reset after update?
  • no
  • Daniel, do you still recommend a reset with these latest builds?
  • I always do a hard reset after installing a build.it clears everything to work well
  • Really isn't necessary with this build. It is working superbly on my Lumia 820
  • Not necessarily, but you will get better results if you do
  • Working perfect without reset ....so Daniel can delete that article , Lol !
  • I may be imagining this but this build seems to have helped my phantom tap issue on my 1520. Like I say, could be wishful thinking on my part but I haven't inadvertently opened anything since I restarted my phone. I'm almost certain after posting this I'll go to my home screen, scroll up and open something instead. That's normally how it goes right? :)
  • Nice multitasking there rubino...;) arguing with me on twitter and posting an article at the same time... thumbs up for u!!
  • This is my third attempt to download the update. The last two times a message appeared that something went wrong with the update and I should try again.
  • Hey Maletesta, have you tried loading up a whole mess of tiles on the start screen to see the stress it can take? I had to reduce the number on my 920 and I've still only seen my home screen twice on 10536 in a month in a half.
  • Batter life greatly sucks still
  • I got the 10581 but this time i dont have to re-install my acc and my apps .so its ok or i did sth wrong?
  • The live tile for the Facebook app shows text a bit more clearly and not as fuzzy.
  • Hey Cortana is working for me.  Once you train it, it bogs for a minute, then pulls up the old 8.1 screen of hey cortana.  Using it right now on my green 1520.  I would suggest soft reset and retest?
  • Is windows 10 insider build is support Lumia 520
  • Yes
  • Did anyone else notice the start screen background change colors at 16 seconds in once Daniel selected the settings app?
  • looks to be a bug, happens on 1020 too. just fed back on app amongst other things
  • Been using builds as daily since like 6 builds ago. But this build on my icon is great so far..
    will update my HTC one soon too.
  • Hey! i want to know if the Windows camera is working fine on your lumia icon! when i upgraded before (i dont remember what build it was) pictures where looking Overexposure for some reason so i installed windows 8.1 again because of the quality issue. is better now?
  • When I receive whats app pictures, I can't open them in photo app,picture is damaged it saids.
    Storage is like you know, not good, the rest is,till now.
  • Please tell me can I use it as a daily drive I use Lumia 730.
  • Yepp . It work's great :)
  • I can say that on my 640 it is totally worth of being a daily driver. Go for it, definitely.
  • when did the new lock screen come in? ive updated from 10549
  • I first noticed it on the previous build.
  • dan, please try open the app from app list and then back, on my lumia 920 the background do something wrong
  • I've updated my Lumia 1020 from W8.1 to this amazing release. W10 upgrade + Software installation (24 apps updated) drained about 40% of my battery ... so, still charging my device to confirm how this version works. Regarding performance, I must say that really shocked me. When I rolled back to 8.0 -> 8.1 version, I've realized how deficient previous releases were working. I was getting used to wait 15 seconds for whatsapp to load... 10 seconds for Windows Cammera to open ... and so. Going back to W8.1 was really the best "upgrade" I've done for the last year in terms of performance. But hey, here's the good news: ... W10 release 10581 ... really blowed my mind. We're getting an equal performance IOS as W8.1 with all the plus... as updated Office applications ... and others. So ... I must say ... if I finally can confirm battery drain was finally fixed... this will be a fully recommended daily use IOS version.
  • Stuck on 18% 
  • I can say with out a doubt... Seems faster! Real nice on my icon and I did an inplace upgrade from 572
  • Microsoft seems to be completely desperate. Releasing such a build is a complete joke. Reviewers will just trash the 950 becasue of the unfinished and buggy OS. 
  • What a wally. The 950 isn't even close to being on sale!
  • Hey Cortana isn't working in Germany...very poor because on Windows 10 it works for along time. I don't understand why there is such a big difference between the two Cortanas.
  • I'm almost ready to take the plunge with my 830 currently running 8.1 Denim & Update 2. Is there anything major that still does not work? I need phone, email, and messaging apps to work without fail or issues. Don't really care about a whole lot of apps at this time. Thanks.
  • All of the core apps work perfectly.
    In fact, I can't actually think of any deal breaker issues at all for any apps. W10M is a good stretch ahead of 8.1 now I reckon (I have a 1020 on 8.1, and an 820 on W10M)
  • Cool thanks.
  • And the windows central app works a lot smoother in this build
  • THANK GOD!!!!! And thank you sir for commenting this.
  • Only in this build I noticed the performance improvement that was meant to be in 10572
  • This build is the mutts nuts. Uber smooth... Love it!
  • Really solid update!  Makes my 920 feel brand new again :D 
  • Did you update from previous build or from 8.1?
  • My 920 also feels new again. I upgraded from 10572
  • Battery drain seems to come from apps that don't close...when tombstoned, they might be staying in an operational mode rather than sleep mode, if that's an accurate way to describe it. My battery is half gone in just over an hour, and I keep finding apps that should have closed. Phone is still warm too, could be the same reason, but damn its a beautiful thing.
  • Aha! I think the drain is the store trying to update my apps! Whew! Turning off wifi to pause that!
  • Soo, what is this thing/feature: "something we've never done before" with the build ?
  • They are releasing insider builds for Desktop/PC and Mobile at the same time
  • Ah, so a boring thing thing like I predicted :p I guess it's a good thing when we get to things where the phone and pc works together, like the skype thing.
  • Looks good so far on my 830. The swipe keyboard still does not work in the Store app though. Thought they would have got that fixed by now!
  • Does anyone know if the email notification sound works now?
  • Same here, could not train Cortana because it would never understand me on this build. So it just gets you to the hey Cortana training voice and that's it. ;O)
  • Try speaking directly into the MIC. literally with it up to your mouth. worked for me. after training you don't have to bring it up to your mouth anymore.
  • Battery life is CERTAINLY improved; no horrendous battery drain from Messaging anymore, though compared to 8.1, it's not on par JUST yet... getting there, though. Something's still wrong with Groove Music, though... because it's the SOLE cause of massive battery drainage on my 1520. Whatever code they're using is suddenly eating the battery alive even when it's not active. 
  • Heh, looks like Daniel tried to tap the WPCentral app tile to no avail.. maybe it just looks like it and he didn't actually. In any case, hope the universal app comes out soon. Otherwise, looks pretty smooth. Haven't updated my left foot in the grave 830 in a while, have to do that tonight to see how it feels on it.
  • the WP central app and tile work just fine in this build and the app is much smoother than in any other previous builds.
  • Do these preview builds support the HTC 8X? My gf would like to know. Also how is the Icon experience? I'm debating updating my daily driver this weekend.
  • Edge working yet? My 920 hates it.
  • for the couple hours ive had it installed edge seems to work quite well, nice and smooth and no issues with opening or rendering websites that i have visited and all bookmarks are staying synced across my devices.
  • Almost epic! I installed on my Icon in less than 20 minutes. Gave a quick test to see how it ran before doing a hard reset. Almost everything was awesome so I didn't do one yet. Edge is faster and smoother than ever. Installed that truck driving game listed today on WC it installed and started fast, worked great for 20 mins I used it. Browsed the web, watched videos, etc... Everything seems great. I also noticed for the first time you can save videos right from edge with certain video types. Also embedded Youtube videos on websites work better for me. I may do a hard reset later, see if Hey Cortana will work than.
  • Does this have openvpn support?
  • Doesn't appear to
  • I also hopes that.
  • Hey Cortana works perfect for me on my L1520. The best fix for me
  • i took me a total of 11 minutes downloading and installing, so far so good much better than 572..Lumia 1520    
  • Cortana is now working for on my 1520 again
  • Just run the update, unable to test battery life so far but wow this phone is fast now (640XL). I was already happy with the speed and performance of the phone, but this is really quick and smooth now. Very impressed so far.  
  • Is this true???any thought's about the battery yet??I want so much to,install W10 but I am,afraid of the battery drain!!!!!I have also 640xl.
  • Does this fix some UI tiles like facebook and twitter!?
  • It fixes Facebook... I don't know about Twitter.
  • I'm really tempted to give it a shot soon.
    Quick question, does the Windows Camera have RichCapture, 4K recording & the other features from LumiaCamera5?
  • oooo  all good just my insider hub app gone my
  • Struck at 0% downloading
  • me too  
  • Does anyone still stuck at 0%!?
  • I went back to 8.1 that solved it for me
  • any one of L820 try it yet?!
  • Camera app doesn't work, and you can't take pictures with apps either (I tried Lumia Selfie and 6tag, no luck). L930 here.
  • Try a reset. Mine works fine on my 1520 .ITs much much faster at taking pictures and focusing now.
  • Theres an update for Windows Camera in store. Try that. Works fine herr with 830.
  • Any one on 1320
  • Stuck at 12% on my Icon. Tried a soft reset. Dont want to do a hard reset. 
  • The very good thing is that this Build is also very fast on lower/mid end phones. Used this build for 3 hours now on my Lumia 735 and it's VERY fast and fluid. As fast if not faster then a final WP81 Build. Great job Microsoft!  
  • When i use an app or videos i cant close the navigation bar.any suggestions?(640XL)
  • I have a 1520 with 10582 and hey cortana works for me. In training you have to talk directly into the mic. After that it works like it used to.
  • 930 here. New build is very fast! :). But extreme battery drain in messaging. 20% down after 20 min :(
  • hmm. thats scary. what do you mean 20% down after 20 minutes in messaging?    in the end its still a beta.
  • Yes, to both ;)
  • Smoothest install I have had on Windows Mobile. Installed fast on my old Lumia 928; seems to be working fine but haven't tested everything obviously.
  • so i just upgraded to the new build 10581 on my 1020 and the whole screen is overlap with everything even when i swipe over to the app side, real weird....doing a factory reset.....hope it works
  • Change your background picture. It is mentioned in the release notes
  • No glance screen on my 920
  • Still crashes settings when I try to change the rotation lock toggle to something else.
  • Just checked: no crashes.
  • No crash on 1520
  • I updated my Lumia 640. The update went very smoothly. With all of my apps, it took an hour or two, but I am used to that, and I have had other updates take a lot longer. I have to say, though, that it is buttery smooth! It is like I upgraded to a high end phone.  Everything loads way faster, and everything is just so much snappier. Start screen scrolling is the smoothest I have seen on the phone. I had zero glitches updating. It will take a couple days to see how it works, but initially it looks great.
  • motion data is updating? mine dont and i have the same phone like you
  • What built did you update from? Win8.1 or a previous built of Win10Mobile?
  • DAMN, this build feels FAST! Though I'm sad that my Astoria apps are broken now. Still no Glance or Hey Cortana settings on my 1520 though. Anyone have working links to download those?
  • For anyone with a supported phone, you can access the "missing" Hey Cortana settings via this link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/hey-cortana/9wzdncrdr1mz
  • Well to start with, some of my applications and games cant be deploy because it appears that the application requires certain updated from the store, there's where the big problem is, at the moment I want to sign in into the store there's a menu options to choose an account to sign in but the options are not there. So I can't download nothing from the store.
  • My L535 is not verry fast,storage is broken,i dont see my memory phone.why?
  • Same issue on my 1520. I figure it will be fixed soon.
  • we just want them to put astoria back in so i can play games or whatever android devices have. (hint: facebook app)
  • Hey Dan, that hey cortana was always a little picky on my 1520. I've always had to yell at her quite a few times to get anywhere with the setup. Ends up working fine even when I thought I didn't get it to setup.
  • This build is running GREAT on my 640.  Everything opens instantly and no more loading... and resuming... screens.
  • Windows central app opens instantly?
  • You upgraded from Fast or Slow ring?
  • It is installing on my L1520. Hopefully voice message issue on some messeneger is fixed.
  • I'd love to know what this build is like, but its still not showing on my 630.
  • All the comments about battery life is hilarious. Windows updates are applied on the restart, so unless you reboot your device again after the update is complete, fully charge it and go through a normal day, nobody has any idea if it's improved or not.
  • Can anyone tell me, if this update works on 920?
  • It should. I have the previous build on my 920 and will be updating it tonight.
  • I have a Lumia 930 and Hey Cortana is working with fine on my phone
  • Does People app still crash when trying to search the Exchange catalog?
  • Just checked.: No.
  • Start loading fix by the looks of it.
  • Is it good enough for daily usage?
  • It is on the 1520
  • After having to reinstall windows 8.1 again due to the phone never unlocking, im going to wait for a more RTM build before updating again, seems like its still a bit hit or miss
  • Butter smooth on my 830. Lovin it! :D
  • Agree, I love this build on my Lumia 830 so far!
  • Downloading know for my Lumia 640 :)
  • Is anyone still not being able to restore their messaging backup from the previous build setup? Should I hard reset again?
  • My app still won't update and my action center won't show on my lock screen.... MS please fix those problems
  • Is it working fine for lumia 1320
  • Custom Ringtones not working
  • Working on 1520
  • Overall cleaner build, improved responsiveness.  I know Hey Cortana was fixed.  Has anyone tested it with the Band to see if that now works with Cortana ?  Also, Motion Data shows it needs an update, but that returns an error.  I don't want to delete it because we can't find it again then.  Also, the notes said Visual Voicemail was working, but it is not on the Icon.  That app is still on my phone from 8.1, but has no indication of an update.  It has the same error as always.    
  • I get that issue with the Motion Data as well. It want to update it but the I get an error. Lumia Icon
  • haha, watching the video and as soon as Daniel says "Hey Cortana doesn't work" the Cortana on my PC perks up as if I'm asking her a question....well, it does work for me :P
  • Will HTC dot view ever work on windows mobile 10?
  • In next update I think "clear all open apps" option will be nice.
  • I agree
  • It's the best build i've ever used in terms of speed, switching between apps and the response time.. It's really awesome on my L830..
  • If I could only download it....been trying over 4 hours, rebooted 2 times and still hanging at 0%...Just finally got some progress and it will get to 22% and give an error with an option to reply... Everytime we get a build same crap....
  • last 4 hours stuk at 22% 
  • Battery life improved!!!!!!!
  • So far the only downside that I've run into is that the Waze app crashes at startup, even after re-installing it on my L830. (I know, the Waze app has not been updated in years, but it's the best GPS app that I have found)
  • This makes me sad
  • I downgraded then upgraded. I seem to have better luck that way. Do I have to do a hard reset to get my storage card working?
  • Do I need hard reset after upgrading from 8.1 on L730?
  • Does internet sharing work on this build?
  • My downloading screen has been here for hours, no progress
  • On my 1520 Hey Cortana seems to be way more responsive so far. I used to never use it because I had to yell at the phone a few times to get it to launch. The real test will be to see if it works in the car where I'd use it the most. I could never get it to launch in the car no matter what. I'll be excited if it now works when driving. 
  • Two things. Glance download error still present. Glance does not work, and the Windows 10 wallpapers are missing. Any workarounds?
  • Anybody, does internet sharing work on this build. I don't want to lose it.
  • Why doesn't the store no longer show an apps version, and the last time it was updated?
  • "Hey Cortana" is working again on my 930, needed a few goes at training to start with,
  • In the insider hub i mentioned to add the feature hold wifi action-center button and send me to the settings!!!!!!!  
  • How's OneNote working on this build? On the previous 2 builds it was useless as some of the Notebooks won't sync...
  • Is the messaging working? Are we able to get back our old messages?
  • Sorry for this but plz mr daniel can i get this amazing wallpaper plz ? 
  • My Lumia Icon hasn't worked this good since Windows 8.1 and best of all I got "Hey Cortana" back.  Unlike you Daniel, my Lumia Icon is working perfectly with the "Hey Cortana" feature.  It even wakes from sleep mode when I say "Hey Cortana."  I didn't have any problems with training Hey Cortana with voice recognition and I haven't noticed any increase in battery usage from 10572.  Everything seems to be running a lot smoother as well.  This is definitely getting closer and closer to a RTM build!  I even had to Tweet a big "THANK YOU!" to Gabe and the Win10Mobile team! 
  • GIF support in messaging, I though I read that we have that now. I get an error attaching a GIF (my GIF does work in the Photo App which is a plus) to a message.
  • Upgraded  from 10572 without resetting to 8.1 on my L920. Experience is buttery smooth, app loading times next to nothing, by far the best build yet. Too early to comment about battery drainage, was pretty good on prev build already. Way to go, Microsoft, this might actually work :)
  • This build is perfect. It has been a great voyage. We've arrived, enjoy!
  • Agree, frustrating at times but now we are here!
  • I have the exact same issue with Hey Cortana (Lumia Icon)
  • No battery drain, buttery smooth transitions, fast, it's incredible on Lumia 640!!!
  • Extras in settings still needs facelift!
  • My Outlook.com calendar crashes the calendar app.
  • This build is a giant leap ahead on speed on my L920
  • Motion Data issue still not resolved. Reported it. Lumia Icon
  • I have the same problem with motion data. Lumia 640
  • Best build for the moment on Lumia 820
  • Hey, is anyone else noticing you can record video on Lumia Camera?  I can take pictures, but can't record video.
  • Use windows camera it has become great.
  • i have same problem with Windows Camera, since build 10572
  • Live tiles still slow to update or don't update properly at all. Lock screen displaying obsolete calendar reminder from a couple of days ago. Just won't go away.    
  • Where is the Hey Cortana setting? I don't have it under settings extras and I have a 1520. Is there some secret combination of screen taps I have to do to make it appear? Maybe if I turn my phone upside down, nope. I'm going crazy here. Where's my Xanax!!!
  • https://www.windowscentral.com/e?link=https2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.co...
  • Looking good in the video!  I do hope that the official release will surprise us with some new features such as interactive live tiles, etc.  Just so it isn't, "hey, here's windows 10 for phone!  We haven't added any meaningful functionality over WP8, because we've had to rebuild the OS".
  • I don't like Cortana and i HATE the new search interface. 8.1 is the king here. There are also other stuff way better in 8.1. Like the image from contacts (when calling) that appear the whole screen and is squared as it should be. And the contacts icons that are also squared and not that ugly, very ugly round design.... I don't get why they made this ugly interface for contacts and search.
  • Still not getting SMS sync... Any ideas?
  • Could anyone tell me if text copy works properly? In the previous build, I couldn't copy text in many apps such as Outlook Mail, Messaging and dictionary apps although the copy button appeared when I selected a text. I could only copy when the text was in a text input field :(
  • Sounds like good stuff. Ironically just waiting for my battery to get to 40% before I can install. Happy to see they are addressing the predictive text that was bugging me big time. Would be nice if this also resolved the issue of it not working all the time such as the edge address bar.
  • WOW you all suck....started trying to install it back at noon today, it's 7:30PM and it's finally installing. It took a full 100% battery down to 0 trying to install it, WHILE on a wireless charger.... Updating to these builds suck...
  • Hlw staff please request for internet speed meter build app in window 10 .. This will be controlled from data sense app.. We can on or off it from data sense.. It will show us full detail of data usage day wise or month wise by single app usage wise.. Upload and download speed show us in phone status bar.. There is lot of space available.. Please request to microsoft update data sense app with this ability.. Now window 10 work with background work.. So it is easy to add this feature.. Please add it in between battery and sim network where emplty space available.. Please staff .. Huwei mobile also made this feature default.. They also provide user in own build like own app locker, own call recorder, own battery meter, own data sense, own cleaner for clean extra files, own recorder, or many features.. Please say to microsoft add some feature in window 10 also.. Update first data sense.. Please
  • Has anyone tried streaming Xbox one to the windows phone I've seen a video about it but not sure if It's possible.
  • Has anyone tried streaming Xbox one games to windows 10 mobile phone saw one video but not sure if it should be trusted or not.
  • Hi everyone,
    Im using 930 and I rolled back 8.1 to update on 10572, yes lots of improvement in fact,but I lost my chat history on WhatsApp,Viber,and line apps coz of going back to 8.1 !! Im very upset about that.
    However,now as I'm running build 10572 and yesterday we got a new build 10581, but my phone does not update and neither shows the update info,,still I can see im on build 10572.
    What should I do?
  • Back up WhatsApp before update and all chat history restores no problem.
  • Have you gone back to the Insider app and reenabled the fast ring?
  • Finally it worked,,thanks mate..!
  • Cheers.
  • Pretty funny to see Cortana launching everytime Daniel says Hey Cortana on the video. I'm viewing the video on a Moto X Pure Edition with Cortana installed via apk.
  • Biggest concern for me is the SD card issue. I dread needing to do a hard reset with this build because I'll likely need to go back to 8.1 to set my SD card preferences, then possibly slow ring, then fast ring to make sure that I keep those preferences. :(  There's no real confirmation on how the SD card settings will work when going from 8.1 to this build so not really wanting to try it. The upgrade did go smoothly and battery life hasn't been horrible so far, though I did leave it charging while it updated and did whatever it was doing to the apps installed. I was also able to finish installing a couple of problem apps from the prior build, though Mint and another discontinued app are "pending" with no way to cancel, finish, or uninstall.
  • The people's tile circle became bigger. Was it like this or is this new on this update?
  • Best build yet. Snappy fast and all issues from last build addressed. Starting to get excited about the operating system.
  • Not all issues. The Glance issue is still present.
  • Yeah the glance is no longer working on my 925
  • Used up abt 1.4gb only to show an error message.. Wtf!?? And this been going on for some time.. Still stuck at build 10512
  • Well, I love to read this.... But the point is, I'm using this built on l830 I did the upgrade and I have 56% battery left. So I don't see much difference. And if someone won't to test the battery, need to do a full recharge first.
    PS: I'm sorry about my English. Next time I will use Cortana :)
  • Anybody knows why battery percentages is not showing in live tiles ? They had it in 8.1 and I don't know why they skipped it in 10
  • I've just upgraded my 930 to W10 for the first time, and after updating all my apps and a couple of resets, it's working as smoothly as it did on WP8.1. I can't say anything about the battery life just yet, but so far so good!
  • I look at battery life after two charge cycles
  • my downloading stuck at 0%. i am using 10536. has anyone got this problem?
  • Yeah, I'm also stuck on 0%. 925
  • Stuck at 27% on 925 :(
  • stuck at 22%
  • This build size is comparatively bigger than other builds.i can suggest that you should go to some place with good wifi and download it
  • Same hapened on my 925. Stuck at 0% for hours. Hard reset solved the problem.
  • It worse with my 1520, download was a success but cannot install, said some files are missing, I tried few times and it always the same
  • Still no working MHS on my 928
  • I'm still having problems since build 10572 on my Icon. Lost my data connectivity. Rolled back to 8.1 did hard reset than tried 10572 still no data.Wi Fi works and can still make and receive calls but no connection. Tried this build and still have same problem. I think I broke my phone. Help  
  • Go to 8.1 and upgrade to this build u should be fine
  • Anyone knows why can't find MixRadio on the store?
  • Its been bought by another company and pulled out from the store, its a shame I really love that app, now android has it
  • Hey and about Gabriel aul saying yesterday on Twitter about things that never done before on this build? Whats that???
  • Think is the Mobile build number higher than pc build.
  • Useless hahaha!
  • Hahahahahahahahahah
  • Wondering the same hehe
  • I installed this build 10581 from 10572 . Actually i set my phone to auto update and when i came back I'm seeing 10581 installed and every thing is working fine and it is much more snappier than the previous version. However I'm really unsure about the battery life on my L730 though it is not heating up now while doing certain things on phone. Will update my comment further after using it .
  • Mine passed first test left off charger all night still have over %70
  • I barely could make 8 hrs on last few builds
  • Yeps...exactly the same thing happened to me! And its working fine on my 640XL (Dual SIM). I am not sure about the battery though. I used Telegram for about 2.5 hours this evening and the battery went from 90% to 40%!!! Looking at Battery Saver, I find that Telegram took about 62% of the battery life!!! But other than that, this Build is amazingly smooth and app opening times are really minimal. I am enjoying using the 640XL.
  • Wish MS would fix Cortana. In the last 2 builds as well as this current build they broke it on the Icon. You ask Cortana to make a call or send a text msg, Cortana thinks then crashes. Cortana is vital, and this needs to be fixed.
  • Any one on Lumia 920? Still heating?
  • Hard to say.. Even this build is worst.. Its not even close to 8.1 on my lumia 640...
  • Is it just me or the windows central app now work way faster?
  • What about motion data? I have tried build 572 but had to roll back to WP8.1 just because I can not use my running apps without internet. Is it there in this build or any news about that?
  • custom ringtones not working
  • Fix the storage issue man. For safe side it is stick on SD card. But make and update so that we can see the phone storage as well and can move things between them. Guys don't update.
  • Error code : 0x8007000e
    Thats what i got for trying to update to this build and after abt 2gigs of data.. Thanks MSFT!!
  • How to get back Sms + call filter?
  • What is this build for. Pleasing Insiders?
  • What happened to the music tag or search in Cortana? It's one of my favorite features and now its give again.
  • I agree with this, I loved that feature. I also miss the fact that once searched, you can't load that song or album directly into Groove with a subscription. It always takes you to the store instead...
  • Am loving this build...improvements, bug fixes, os is more faster...
  • I am facing too much problem with build 10572 on my Lumia 520
  • Camera not working! 10581
  • Getting the error message "can't attach. We're having trouble attaching files right now. Try again in a little while" when attempting to send an image via text message? I have tried rebooting a couple of times. All apps are up to date.
  • Pls can anyone tell me where I could download y HERE Transit app back , because during the last build update it could not open so I have to delete. I trying to download it back in the Microsoft app store but it wasn't there. Pls I need help and I love this app it helps me alot to plan my journey. Thanks
  • Glance Screen does not work after Hard Reset with this build on Lu1520
  • I want to install this built to my daily usage! Is this good idea or should i wait for next build? Let me know folks.
  • 1st attempt updating from 10536 to 10581 resulted in an error during install on Lumia 930. This momentarily bricked the phone and I had to do a soft reset. 2nd attempt worked. Now the investigating begins. I am especially interested in the supposed battery improvement.
  • From the vifdeo above, My 1020 is matching 1520, performance wise. WOW!! Can't say about battery life just yet. This is the best build yet. However, batterysaver doesn't display the usage levels and lockscreen clock slides but the wallpaper is stationary, new design?  
  • Hey cortana Works on my Icon.
  • can Lumia 630 Dual SIM get this update by choosing Fast Rings? 
  • Yes
  • No notifications for me In the action center but live tile and lock screen notifications work.Anybody here with this issue?
  • I'm stuck at 26% wtf
  • Me too at 27%
  • me to at 22$ last 5 hours
  • My downloading stucked at 0% and never progressed. But i update via mobile data sharing , so I know it's downloading. After it stopped reducing data, i knew update has Been downloaded. Reboot my phone and after several minutes, its preparing to install. Screen should always on. Don't switch app nor turn screen off. Set this in lock screen setting to 'never'.
  • Thanks..
  • Microsoft
  • Apple
  • Under settings > notifications > quick actions Trying to change rotation does not provide the dropdown menu and throws me out to home screen. Had this problem with last version also. Nokia 925
  • probably such a minor bug its not priority atm! it is annoying though. does the same on the 1st quick action too if you wanted to change it. but WiFi is what i want there anyway so not such a big issue.
  • Download stuck at 27%.. :(
  • whehh I miss 3g only feture...
  • Camera still sucks
  • So far so good on Lumia 635. Upgrade took over 2 hours, but 10 is snappier for me than Denim ever was. 
    One thing I do not like is that the Skype Messaging and Video apps default to your Microsoft accnt and won't let you log in using a different Skype ID.   
  • I didnt got the update even though i am on 10549.1004
  • Really loving this build. Way to go MS!
  • Very happy so far. -Cortana is now working for Canadians -MUCH faster, dunno what did it but this build has made everything smoother and more snappy -Downloading speech languages and others now work -notifications for messages and calls now showing properly -no issues with battery so far...
  • Downloading the Update is Pain in the ass. I hope MS ll did this in next build.
  • Almost as smooth as android
  • Storage issue is not resolved
    Phone storage is not visible
  • Does anyone else have issue with not having number of new emails on start screen tile?
  • Anyone updated to latest build from 10166
  • It sucks.....since last 8-10 hrs its stucked at 0%.
  • screen capture seems to be broken. Anyone else?
  • My 925 battery life still suks
  • Who did update with Lumia 640/640XL? Please share your experience?
  • Data Sense still doesn't work
  • Since previous build my Lumia 520 occasionally freezes, only a soft reset will help me out. After installation I've done a hard reset without backup restore each time, so install is as clean as it can be.
  • This build is awesome. Smooth, with great battery life but I'm facing a problem. Messaging app crashes when I'm trying to type. L640.
  • No double tap on screen to wake option on my 930, anyone else got it to work? Went to Settings - Extras and there's no Touch option anyone??
  • Tap to wake still works on my Lumia 930. Extras>Touch>Tap to wake is still present on the new build.
  • Are there any issues on the 640xl?
  • No...not at least on my 640XL.
  • No call/sms filter?
  • No double tap screen to wake option in this build?? On 930?
  • The accent color changed when he opened up the Settings menu. That is an odd bug.
  • Call sms filter is gone?
  • Seems pretty good on my 640xl. Btw how to restore Call + sms filter?
  • Regardless of features, for me the OS looks magnificent on that green 1520.
  • Theres still this one problem... Everytime I listen music with Groove and do something elsephone just get stuck. I think Groove just take too much RAM when playing music? My L520 only have 512 Mt.
  • stuck at 0% from more then half n hou.Using lumia 730 build 10549.1004
  • No luck.....still not able to download.....0% download since last 14-15 hrs....
  • Is it me, or is this buld finally faster than 8.1? It's smoking fast on my 1520, and battery is outstanding, I went all day and ended up at 50% when I got home this evening. Hard to believe there's still refinements to come.
  • From 27% suddenly i see installing.. Build installed.. Battery life has been better since last build.. But still not as good as 8.1. I hope it gets better from here
  • Lumia 925 working great.. No reset done.. I am missing the guesture beta app the most right now.. Any alternates out there? As for the battery, life is definitely better since the last built.. Donno abt optimizations and stabilizations.. Lumia 925 is handling the OS well.. Still have some bugs, which i guess could be okayed by resetting, but i'll let it run.. It's not killing me. If u r on lumia 925, u can use this OS on ur daily mobile if charging twice a day is not a problem for you.
  • Is skype no longer integrated into messaging?
  • it is
  • my lumia 535 had awesome battery life in the 3 previus builds but i will try this one tomorrow :D
  • Does anyone know what happened to the living images? Seriously its one of the best thing I liked in WP
  • Since yesterday Striked @ 27%... Wtf ...
  • Hey Cortana works great for me on my 930 in the UK. My battery life so far seem to be pretty good alothough it is only about 18 hours into the build. I think Microsoft is doing a good job things seem to me at leastto be very close to final build. I am so far to find any problems with the latest build.
  • The photo app gets crash wen u check d folder, ne1
  • Finally I see big improvement how fast and smooth the OS runs on my 925. It's not as smooth as Windows 8 but getting close. Unfortunately I lost my insiderHub app after update(not working) and not able to reinstall it:( other than that Im happy with the progress:)
  • Much better Battery levels,but still a bit slower than 8.1...people app is very slow,live tiles not very smooth,scrolling also not very very almost everywhere....but the I hve yo say again that the battery is much much better and that is a big think!!!LUMIA 640XL
  • Can my Samsung Ativ s Neo participate yet?
  • No astoria Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • 1058 isn't very stable. 10572 was much more stable. In this one storage is broken.
  • There is no need to worry about Battery in this build. Its been 7 hours since last charge and the battery is still at 65%. The build "Seems Faster", smoother, very few instance ofcrashes and soft resets on my Lumia 625 compared to the last build.
  • Still 27% from yesterday... Wtf
  • Successfully updated on Lumia 730, but got another irritating error that when i enter in to storage , it shows in Chinese language. Only showing memory card . Phone memory not showing. Anybody facing the same problem?????
  • Still 20% !
  • The camera no longer works on my lumia 1020. Both the pro cam and Microsoft camera worked before. When I first tried the camera after the update my phone rebooted and now no app that would use the camera works at all and the lens ia stuck open. And yes the lumia pro cam is usable on windows 10 starting with the last build and only for the 1020.
  • So far so good
  • Here is what this build fixed for me (I have a Lumia 635): The phone used to become warm during usage. Now it's actually freezing to the touch. I start to see condensation on it! The phone is fast and responsive! I still get the Loading/Resuming from time to time, but come on, my phone has 512MB. Less than my Samsung Galaxy S2 from 4 years ago. The Satechi Media Button, which connects to my phone via Bluetooth HID as a keyboard, now works beautifully. Previously, only VOL UP/DOWN worked. Now PLAY/PAUSE/SKIP/BACK work as well. I don't have to touch my phone while driving when I'm listening to music. Voice Dialing is much, much improved. This morning, I was able to make two phone calls. Cortana recognized the names and dialed them for me. However, picking Mobile vs Home might still have some issues. Core Music Player uses File Explorer to pick Device or SD Card directories to sync music. File Explorer used to crash each and every time. With this build, I was actually able to pick and add a folder from the SD Card, with no crashing. Windows Maps navigation was working great in the previous build, but I haven't tested it out in this new build. The list that Gabe Aul sends out is really partial. I bet there are 10s or 100s of other small fixes that they incorporate as well. Windows Phone is becoming more and more something I would be willing to switch to after 4 years with Android.
  • How is it on the 650xl
  • Can't believe how buttery smooth this build is. Everything seems so responsive, no lags. Battery life is awesome so far. Now we need the new features :) bring it on!!!
  • Since yesterday, stucked at 0%. Now don't want to install. Can anyone tell me how to get rid of ' Updates are available' page.
  • This build is even more worse than the previous one. What surprise they spoke of? I can't even view phone storage for my 1520, it's jacked, and groove music is not working now. I think Microsoft should stay in the PC and home console business. I will be looking forward to a new android tablet soon. Gonna spend like $300, and get a real mobile OS. Windows is starting to be a grand let down. Will likely never get to delve into anything from the google market on a windows phone. It's like Windows is, a one survivor like on The Walking Dead, all alone.
  • Then stay on 8.1 till WM10 is RTM. Not a damn thing wrong with 8.1...
  • Works smooth on Lumia 520?
  • Got the Download error again when trying to install english (US) speech. :(
    All the tricks I know that worked priviously doe not work anymore. Sucks. Cannot use Cortana in english now and are stuck to the German "Stock im Ar***" one with severly limited functionality. :(
  • My phone is not seeing the update. I'm on build 10549 on a 640. Anyone else not seeing it?
  • 3 hours off the charger with no use and im at 47% (from 100%) sooo.. i probably need to hard reset my 920.  But i think i'll just suffer through to the 950 XL in a few weeks (i hope it's sooner than later! but i'll wait).  This 920 has been on its last leg for awhile now.
  • Pretty decent build so far....
  • I'm unable to update, it's on the list but it says "battery saver on. All downloads have been paused..." My battery is @ 70% and the phone is charging.
    Lumia 930 build 10549
    Any help?
  • Dam! This build have some serious problem whit the battery life
  • After reading alot of the comments regarding windows insider releases there are many people involved in this BETA TEST who have no business being involved in a BETA TEST.
  • Landscape for app,open attachment directly from email, quick response
  • Application shown in landscape. Quick response. Attachment open directly from email. Very nice build.
  • Runs very well on my 1520. Update via phone update from 8.1
  • Working great on my 1320 and my 535, very impressed, the last build was a disaster on my 1320 but the 535 seemed to handle it ok
  • I am getting below msg
    "Battery Saver is turned on, so we've paused downloads. We'll start downloading again when Battery Saver is turned"
    I tried turning on and off battery saver mode but no luck....please suggest
  • Same here, already posted a comment here, but I just made 250Km and I'm a but tired (long day) but I will check MS Forums
  • This is what I expect. I'll find out I have the wrong phone. That's how it goes. 8.1 is fine.
  • Still bugs in message aap, store, notifications
  • Done updating my 1020 to the latest build. :) the performance is greatly improve.
  • Hi Guys, I am Using Lumia 640Xl,I upgraded from 10549 to 10581,,some of the features that not in this build as compared with 10549,,when calling to someone the phone vibrates when someone attend the call,,and while tap on windows home button it shows color on the button,,and font size in calling window is larger than 10549,,these features are good,,pls add it in nex build MICROSOFT  
  • Is anyone else having problems getting Photos and Videos to sync with OneDrive?
  • This build is the best build I have used so far on 535, everything looks great and new, great performances, apps open with speed, task manager is great, love the new four rows on my screen. No heating issues, smooth scrolling, lots of improvements on this one.
  • In Lumia 730.. After i installed 10581 am not seeing phone memory.. Plz help me
  • After installing 10581 it's showing only Memory card memory not showing phone memory plz help me
  • Done updating my 1020 to the latest build and the performance has improved. :)
  • Are you able to update apps from the store..?
  • getting 7 days of battery life!! thanks ms
  • Storage settings also broken. You can't select SDcard or internal storage
  • Last time my dad used W10 was build 10549. Does it makes a big difference in speed? Can be a daily driver?
  • I've found that there are Share as photo and Share as video for Live images. Was this feature available in previous builds?
  • Microsoft is doing a great job. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Guys, there is a difference between PATIENT and LAB RAT. Patient gets cure,wherein Lab Rat gets test medicines. MS is doing the same with all Win 10 mobile users. I mean, (try this medicine and let me know if it works or not. If not, then I'll create a new medicine tomorrow. Try new medicine and let me know if new one works or not).Just think, what is the basic feature of phone? To make a call, right. To make a call, after clicking on PHONE app, we have to wait for 10-15 seconds for LOADING to finish and dial pad to appear. Its been quite a long time, since win 10 is launched, still, no stability. We spend our money to buy a good phone, and MS uses us as Test Subject. I used win10mob for 1-2 months, but switched back to 8.1 (which at least unlocks quickly)
  • Well you do know that Win 10 Mobile isn't officially launched yet right? It is also optional to take part in the insider program. So I don't see the sense in complaining about being treated as a lab rat when you sign up to be one. I'm actually quite happy with this build on my L930 and L820.   
  • I cant update to latest built on my L535 any one help me. Plzz
  • I love window phone nd i m a big fan of lumia phones...but guys i don't know what microsoft wants from me....i m on build 10512 nd want to download 10581....so i cheak for update nd it shows 3 update...10514...10536...10581.... But no one update is starting....its still on 0%...nd this is not for today i also tried one month ago when 10536 was came...but progress was 0%...i lost my 3 or 4 gb data in updates but why updates are not downloading....help guys...plz. Help me....
  • I had same situation with a 640. I went back to 8.1 using Device Recovey Tool and then 10581 showed up inside the tool and it installed.
  • Too bad some of the apps are broken.but animation is good.hope you guys can fix it sooner.thanks!
  • Some of the apps are broken.hope you guys can fix it sooner.but animations are great!
  • OMG !! OMG !!! I can't believe that my LUMIA 520 runs smooth and super fast than ever with this Build 10581. I can't believe also my unit has only 512MB RAM can run super fast on Windows 10 build 10581. There are no more Black Screen, Loading, Resuming long wait issues, battery life issues, crashing Apps and Games. I want to thank GABE AUL and his Teams for this Build 10581 definetely AWESOME !!! One more thing, We Suggest to have CORTANA available in the philippines because I'm from the philippines and currently using region of UNITED STATES. Thank you and we are getting near, almost near to get the finish line. 
  • I have this build on my HTC one M8 and it is running great. I had a background app (messaging) that was draining battery but I turned it off and the battery is no problem at all and I use on my daily phone. What I've been itching to know is does anyone else's phone actually record in anything above 60fps. Just wondering if maybe it's just my non Lumia phone or it's just there for futures' sake.
  • Battery is just as good as 8.1 on Lumia 1020  
  • I updated my lumia from 10549 to 10581,,it gets error,so i downgrade to win8.1 and install 10581,,,in this new build some default apps are not installed.so i reset my phone,,then i will get all apps,,but insider hub is not present,,,,guys pls help me what can i do,,,,i want insider hub
  • Great build.... Working perfectly and battery life is great.... No errors whatsoever!!!
  • I have issues with charging and phone heats up even if it kept idol. n now there are screen lags n suddenly screen gets stuck. then hav to force restart it. im using lumia 1320
  • Glance can't be download
  • Battery improvements ? I am not sure but I don't think that take down almost 35% per first night is normal... I updated to this build from previous build... Lumia 830
  • It just crashed for the first time since yesterday post the installation. Not yet stable i mist say but a huge improvement over the precursors. Lumia 1020
  • If I may ask, how stable is this build for the 930?
  • Like this build ..only sd card isn't working
  • 2 days in: THis is what doesn't work:
    Cortana live tile doesn't activate
    ​Cortana weather tapping doesn't launch weather app
    HERE Drive+ and HERE Maps don't launch
    When attaching photos to email, Outlook quits
    Motion Data doesn't work
    Messaging app not receiving notifications on Skype calls
    Messaging app cannot receive pictures, drawings, files, etc sent via Skype, it says "unsupported" Otherwise, no crashes so far and everything works great. Good build.
  • Is thats realy need wifi to builld 10536 to 10581.i have cellular data
  • My 640XL works pretty much the same. Storage Sense issues; Phone memory not visible, just SD card. SD card has looks like Mandarin characters under the name. Each time phone is reset characters are different. No option to move apps from phone to SD or back, just blank menu where move to has been before.
  • Still wrecks my battery. Went down 25% in a little over an hour with sparse usage. Lumia 1520.3 should not be performing like this
  • how to update here? because my windows insider is still server error this is really really fucked me! so please fix it 
  • Dang...downloaded but failed to install, it said some files are missing or have problems
  • Look people, if you can't deal with bugs, don't install betas. For all those who really take the time to let others know what's working and not working, and how it is for you, thanks you comments are appreciated by many.
  • Touch app (in extras) is not working for me on lumia 730
  • camera doesnt work after upgraded to b10581 (on lumia 430 and 640xl lte)
  • i am using lumia 1020, build 10581 is better than ever using since from 2 days without any problems. infact performance improved greatly
  • Battery life is realy good now in my Lumia 920. I was thinking of going back to Win Phone 8.1 just because of this issue but now I will stick to Win 10 (Y)
  • Hi Guys, Can anyone please tell me when is the official windows 10 for mobile is going to release?
  • I had the 0% issue. Freeing up some storage fixed it for me.
  • hi , please advise , should i do hard reset after installing 10851 ?   Thanks 
  • i got this error , any one else ?     https://onedrive.live.com/?id=D26CAD6B86D4CBD2%2130177&cid=D26CAD6B86D4C...
  • in a way, im glad my recently purchased used 1520 can't get the lastest update. The 10572 performance is amazing. I was able to install the 10581 on my l920 but since its not my daily driver, I havent noticed any of the reported issues.  
  • abhorent battery life on my 1520.3... 2 hours off charger and its down to 60% left with little to no use... this is pathetic. When looking at the battery saver data, it says my system is using 25.9% and display is 65.8% followed by wifi at 5.7% and cellular data at 2.6% in the last 24 hours. How is this not worked out with so many builds to insiders and a pleuthora of log data. Also considering it seems to work on every entry level pos lumia phone out there flawlessly but not on the flagship phone? Microsoft what are you guys doing over there?
  • I have a lot more random reboots on this build than others.  Usually related to Silverlight apps.
  • Som bugs are updated..in storage no phone memory available.., insider removed again, task bar remains on screen when using apps..
  • Build 10581 bad, seems every new build is worse than prior.  Hotspot still not usable.  Have to reboot phone at least once per day to get programs to open.  I'm not feeling confident at all that Microsoft can deliver a usable Mobile OS.
  • The good so far: This is the ONLY build I have been able to install so far on my Lumia 521. It works surprisingly smooth on it, although I don't have that much going on with it. I have an extended battery on my Lumia 521, and I think it finally sees the proper battery percentage now (in WP8 and WP8.1, it did NOT properly detect the battery capacity, even after multiple charges). Pages render better on edge than on IE, when they render at all. Love that I can put maps on the SD card. Love that there is 1 handed mode just like on my Lumia 1520 (and 630). The 1520 camera seems to work as fast as it did in 8.1. Wifi is working well, as is VPN, which is far more capable than 8.1. (this is not unique to just this build however). The not so good: I upgraded from the previous build on my 1520, and was using it in 'tablet mode' with the super small text. After the upgrade to 10581, the start screen was a garbled mess that was absolutely worthless. I had to do ha hard reset (once I navigated the jumbled screen, which was not trivial). After that it seems to work fine. Until everything is updated, everything is very very sluggish, even on my 1520. But I suppose that is to be expected.   In general, this is the 1st build I'd recomend any semi-technical user act