Today, Microsoft started to release the latest build of Windows 10 for the phone. Build 10051 of the Technical Preview is going out for some users, as Microsoft fixes their server issues.
Our Lumia 635 managed to get the update early, so we cobbled together this 14 minute video tour of the latest version. We will do a more thorough video walk through of individual new features later, when we have more time.
For now, consider this a quick pass after using the new OS for 15 minutes. We know many of you are excited to see what's new, but there is a lot going on in this update.
Quick thoughts
Between snapping photos, shooting video, sending screenshots, and managing the site, I have not had much time with the new OS. However, I can offer some initial impressions:
- I would not use this on my main phone/daily driver. Grab a budget Lumia instead.
- The OS feels a bit smoother, but this is still very 'beta' software
- The OS is very different, yet the same. It can be a bit jarring.
- Windows 10 for phone has a ton of potential and you can see it here, but there is much work left to be done
- Using this build, you very much feel like what it is to be an alpha or beta tester: You get what you wished for, which is good and bad
- Lots of hamburger menus, but they are not all bad on a smaller display
- Project Spartan is interesting, but it is still very rough to use
- Outlook Email looks great although the icons without labels can be confusing
So there you have it. Watch the video and give us some time to go through and parse everything that is new and worth covering. Many details were missed here e.g. the new email editor, but we will get to that soon enough.
Are you using the new build? Let us know what you think and share with us any new discoveries!
Reader comments
Hands on with Windows 10 for phone build 10051: Spartan, Outlook, Messaging and more!
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The changes to outlook even with a recent build....are terrible. The email was great, not full of visuals and menus. You could keep accounts separate or linked. Which is great for important notifications for work email or whatever you choose. Now its terrible all in one crap like iPhone. If I wanted an iPhone...id buy an iPhone. Complete fail.
This OS will fail. Microsoft didn't learn from the previous failure.
Hey help me plz... I downloaded the update 3 times but it sayes error opening
Been using it fir a few days now.
Camera doesn't work on my 920. I have to take pictures blindly. The new camera app too is clunky, not as easy as the previous.
My biggest problem though is Outlook. It looks pretty, but it has next to zero functionality. Each email account you have set up has no notification you have new email. The tile does not update on how many messages you have hen you get a new one. One core funtionality I loved from the last one, you cannot pin individual folders or accounts to the live tile menu. Then the worst part, when looking at my email in the notification center and clicking on it, it goes to Outlook Calendar.
I was fine all weekend, this morning (Monday) I got a call, some texts and other notifications and now I can't connect to my LTE with AT&T the darn beta was starting to grow on me but now with no connection to the outside world I am hoping that the roll back will get me back online. I liked the new messaging but I couldn't find Project Spartan and email has not worked properly in ages which I think is my fault because I had both a outlook.com and a hotmail address and now it won't download anything unless I go thru webmail - any ideas would be appreciated.
Guys,
Noticed one flaw in the build. I am unsure whehter it is happening with everyone else.
I installed the build and while it was setting up, I skipped WiFi connection. It installed properly but after some time I was being charger for Data whereas my data connection was OFF. I am using it in India on Vodafone.
I rolledback to 8.1 and now I am using it and the deduction has stopped.
I will try reinstalling Windows 10 again. If I face the same problem again, I guess I will have to wait for the next build and hope that this issue is fixed.
Thanks.
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Been using WP 10 TP since day one upon launch and just updated to latest release on my Lumia 830. My impressions so far: Naturally, it is buggy, laggy, slow, incomplete, unfinished, incoherent, unpolished, inconsistent, feature poor, unappealing... Obviously, it's only a technical preview and being an insider means we get to give feedbacks. Think MS is using this time to introduce new concepts and features and WP fans are the validators. Not worried about all the minus points but firmly believe that MS will pull it at the very end and deliver the goods, i.e. a complete, comprehensive, unified, polished, slick, feature rich, holistic, stable and secured OS. Really think MS hasn't yet unveiled all their cards due to competing platforms or all will be revealed at Build 2015. After all, am glad to be part of the development process as an insider.
IF THIS BUILD IS BAD RAISE HELL WITH MICROSOFT THROUGH YOUR INSIDER' HUB. TELL THEM ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT STINKS IN AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU CAN. I'M GLAD I DID NOT TAKE ON THIS BUILD. THE NEXT ONE WILL BE BETTER. WINDOWS 10 TECH PREVIEW ON TABLETS, DESKTOP AND LAPTOPS ALSO HAS HAD GOOD BUILDS AND BAD BUILDS. THE PREVIEWS OF THE NEXT BUILD SHOWS A BETTER ONE THAN THE ONE WE HAVE NOW. I AM READY FOR IT BUT WE MIGHT EVEN GET IT. A BETTER VERSION THAN THAT ONE MAY BE COMING TO US NEXT MONTH. THEY SAY THE TECH PREVIEW BUILDS FOLKS GET ARE NOT THE LATEST BUILDS. THE QUETIONIS HOW MANY BUILDS ARE WE BEHIND THE CURRENT BEST BUILD
I have not tried any Windows 10 tech preview builds for smart phones because I do not think there are enough MS programmers working on it yet. I think most of Microsoft's programmers are working on getting Windows 10 for Desktop/Laptop/Tablets and hybrids ready for RTM so that Microsoft OEM's partners can put a stable version of Windows 10 on devices they want to sell for the September back to school shoppers I read some where they want to RTM Windows 10 for Desktops/Laptops/Tablets and hybrids by JUNE 2015. I am not sure they can make that if they do make it those Men and Women programmers at Microsft are really good at what they do. after Windows 10 RTM's for Microsoft's bread and butter devices there will be plenty of Microsoft programmers available to help the ones now working on Windows 10 for smart phones get it done too
I have a Nokia 830 from BELL Mobility. I am not able to upgrade to Windows 10 tech version.
Is it restricted by the providers? Anyone else having this issue?
Shri
Anyone have news on OneDrive?????
Dose anyone know when the office app we be available ????
today i install windows 10 priview but now i am not able to active cellular data connetion
pls help
Anyone have any suggestions about Outlook? Don't see any settings under Notifications. How do you turn on toast?
It is totaly scrap plz don't install.
I hope M$ rethink this version because to test something like this is a joke. Nothing works, UI is terrible and is missing a lot of things that everyone loves. It's absolutely unacceptable they put this out to test.
Outlook Mail and calendar do not open on my L925. There is no project Spartan app. Glad for legacy people App. I don't mind the new look. ①unno if I should roll back as my phone was having issues before the upgrade. I may well just put -it back for now. Dunno,
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It good enough to attract more customers
Updated my lumia 520, and there is no project spartan, no startscreen background option, no one note. What should I do ? Am I missing any further update ?
Lumia 1520, when connected to any Bluetooth, incoming calls go right to voicemail
The old battery, wifi and network symbols look much better than the wireframe ones
In 11:09 - Android 2.3; 3:07 - iOS 8 and Android 5; 5:45 - WP?! Where is WP/Metro/Modern UI??? Where is unification of ui? Where?? I AM BUTTHURT for this. :(
After I've installed Windows 10, I can't access to the phone settings. Have anybody an idea how to fix that? (rolling back to 8.1 won't help as long as WPRT doesn't find my phone)
two ways to go back (down back button and the uper left back arrow) for what reason? and the three dots its a waste of space for no reason, they can put everything in the hamburger menu...
What happened to Office? Strange not to see it in the build.
Thoughts, ideas?
Finally, I have a reason to fully move away from windows phone. I have been using Windows Phone for my emails and calendars, which no OS could offer. Just by looking at the new mail and calendar app, I am done with Windows Phone. The pivots are gone, folder pins no longer there. The app is more designed for tablet use (I did not like the PC app for 8.1 for that matter, and prefreed heavy wieght Outloook over it).
All in all, Microsoft seemed to have put too much focus on universal apps and forgot the form factor aspect, and by doing that, this release seems more towards achieving engineering effieciency at the cost of usability.
FYI. I am a Verizon customer in the middle atlantic states with an HTC One (M8) Windows phone. Windows Insider indicates that I can download the new Windows 10 Preview update.
I like the Outlook app as it is now :(
Yeah they have completely destroyed what i used to love about windows phone....
I have 720 & speed was horrible but the direction of the interface is really bad , I was looking for a change & was waiting for windows phone 10 but if this is what they have in store for us then nexus here I come......
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why is app loads time is still so slow compared to other platforms
Where is office? I can't see it.
Where is office? I can't see it.
Where is office? I can't see it.
Preview runs like complete utter sh*t on 822
It's pretty bad right now. I installed it, submitted some bugs, submitted a few suggestions and then uninstalled as quickly as I could and that was on a backup phone. Unless someone really wants to give input and submit bugs there is no reason to install this mess. If you want to follow the progress of the builds just keep paying attention to this site and a few others.
I am really concerned with the direction of the UI. I know it's early and a lot of refinement needs to be done, but it's looking more and more like Android after each build. If I want a phone that looks like Android and has MS apps and services then I'd buy an Android device.
I put it on my main phone, big mistake. It does have potential tho
Has the Kids Zone gotten a makeover?
What kids zone (that is that answer).
Exactly this. What a disaster W10 is shaping up to be!
WP8.1 didn't need to be reinvented. They had a great base, and just needed to build momentum with app developers. All they are doing by redesigning in this way is making it an easier decision to go back to Android.
Euurgh...so disappointing!
You would not dan but I did. Seams the phone is working well so far. other then falling asleep with the lights on in bed with it in my hands fooling around with it.
I like the new outlook and calendar apps (but they need to support dark theme), however over all this build is a step back from the last release. Still not ready to be used as a daily driver. If you really want to play with it, Amazon is still selling the 635 on AT&T for less than $49.
I installed it on daughter's 535. It's crap. Barely useable. She wants it off her phone immediately. It freezes, photo app is not showing any photos saved on the device. People hub is ugly. I have downloaded it on my 730 but don't want to install. How can I prevent it from installing?
It's much easier to say what is good in this new OS than to describe tons of bugs and bad UI
I got to install Win 10 tech preview on the 520 yesterday, and in every way that I have seen in my maybe 30 minutes playing with it, I see nothing that I don't like better than the way it was in 8.1. Everything is an improvement as far as I can tell. And I hope it'll only improve and change even more as the builds come along. I'm on the fast ring since this is not my primary phone. So I'm all on-board with being risky with it to be on the bleeding edge of Windows Phone (Maybe I should get a 635 in case they leave out some features on the RAM starved 520).
My "phone phone" is an Android (Samsung Galaxy Note 3 through Sprint - yes, I just got Lollipop and I'm loving it). But back when they were only $20, I picked up the no-contract 520, with no cellular service (kinda making it the Windows Phone equivalent of an "ipod"). This was so I could try out the OS/UI, decide whether it's "Love", or just "the idea of being in love" between me and the Windows live tiles UI, and to keep my finger on the pulse of Windows Phone app scene progress.
The apps scene was really the only thing that kept me from Windows phone about 9 months ago when I got my Note, and is about the only thing that will keep me from Windows in the July 2016 area when my contract is up if it hasn't substantially improved from where it is today. All things being equal, I'm hoping it is improved, because Windows is the format I simply "want to be on" the most. So I'm definitely cheering for it, and definitely hoping this "One Windows" thing w Windows 10 will be the magic bullet everyone's hoping it is so that the platform stands a chance of "being ready for me by the time I'm ready for it".
iOS/Apple is the one I want to be on the least, but as it stands based on the scene in April 2015, it is the one I'm most likely to make my next phone because it doesn't suffer from the lackluster app support of Windows Phone, nor does it have all the bugginess of Android, or the "wait forever for handset manufacturer monkeyed up Android updates." Yes I have Lollipop on my Note. Yes I love it. But from what I've seen, I think I'd like a vanilla version even better...and I'll be slow to forget that I had to wait 5 months for what I have. I suppose if the Windows app scene isn't where I'd like it to be by July 2016, what could spare me from going to Apple, and keep me with Android is if the Nexus line makes a phone that I'm really impressed with, as well as Google Play cleaning up the app "neighborhood". But after such a long wait for Lollipop, I probably wont do another Android that's not a Nexus. And I'm just not blown away by what Nexus has available right now.
But like I said, I'd really like to go with Windows.....ESPECIALLY now that I've had a chance to even just superficially experience even just a clunky pre-beta of Windows 10. It's the same excitement I feel when I first get to play around with a new build of 10 for desktop (on an old junky HP laptop I had in reserve). Now I really wanna start being wowed with integretion between said junky laptop, and said RAM-starved Lumia 520! Let's see that "One Windows!" :-D
Why do you feel the need to rush out and get under another contract? The app scene on windows phone will not improve to what you are looking for by July. There isn't even a firm release date for Windows 10 except a broad time line of "summer". I'll bet at best is going to be late summer. You sound like a higher end phone person ( like me). Microsoft hasn't even announced a new flagship phone, yet continues releasing low end phones on a rapid schedule. If you really want to be on Windows Phone (congratulations, you can actually think for yourself rather than following the herd) bide your time off contact for a bit. I doubt you will see the overall improvement you are looking for until early 2016 at best.
I installed the update. Can't believe no changes to the photo app, still shows blurry pictures. Come on MS, this was reported previously by many people. Now, there is a bigger issue - the camera! It is completely unusable now. When you in photo screen before you shot the photo now only you see are small squares on the top of your screen, everything is black. How this even passed QA!!! Now I can't take any pictures. Thanks MS!!!
Just about to revert my L820 back to windows 8.1, love the look of Windows 10 but. the OS pixelates badly on my screen merging opening apps with previous one...interesting effect! I cannot open messaging app, data and mobile connection are off by default and the toggles will not move (in fact Flight mode has no toggle!)...so complete disconnection from the network has occured...Hhmm bugger.
Many apps wont open and spartan is one of them, Cortana is also disfunctional, but more than just these issues I cannot feed back to microsoft on the problems because my keypad is shown with no letters on the keys after first word typed. I dont regret installing windows 10 and have nothing bad to say about it. Hey... my 820 is a bit of a dinosaaur amongst modern offerings, and I can understand that it might have issues like this. Will hopefully get new 640 in a couple of weeks then the 820 will take the next build offered. Other handsets are fairing better with windows 10 and these are the guys in the driving seat now.
I like it, I'm just hoping for transparent tiles
Any1 who installed wp10tp in L1020?
Installed WP10TP, played around with it for a few hours, then reverted to WP8.1. I'm extremely disappointed with the direction of the UI. So many elements I originally loved about Windows Phone are gone. I'll reserve final judgment until the OS is actually released, but man, it sure feels like a step backward.
+820, the new UI is terrible! Hamburgers at the upper left corner are useless. It's really a way backwards.
After so much testing this build sucks
I've got this installed on my Lumia 625, and while I like the look and feel of some parts of the OS, I can't help but feel that I won't like it as much as 8.1 :(
Outlook email and calendar are not working for me at all. They just dont launch at all - clicking their icons does nothing. The old mail app seems to be gone. I tried uninstalling them but now i cant find them in the store to reinstall. Does anyone have any ideas how to get around this?
I could never get the Outlook app to set up my account. Tried and tried and tried and tried...nothing.
I downloaded the preview onto my Lumia 822 and now it won't open the settings app and I don't even have a phone app anymore. Please help
Spartan browser is not even opening
Too slow on 520
working touch buttons?
Yeah, I have a 520 too and it is slow. I don't think it's too slow, but hopefully the final build's a lot smoother.
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too slow on Lumia 520, Don't recommend in this update... Project Spartan crashes, Device Hub don't update, no Cortana in Brazil yet... Waiting for next update hurry!
I am using it on my 520. Some apps are betas and some are even alphas (written on their title bar).
One problem I have is that the new settings app doesn't launched when I tap it either on app list nor action center. So I can't explore settings aspect.
After Installing Windows 10 Preview.touch buttons not working r not working can any one solve this
Downloaded, was installing.. But battery drained in the middle. so now every time i try again, installation starts from the very beginning. Again battery drains completely. on my L620. Any suggestions guys?
Whenever I reboot my 1520, below the Microsoft logo is a sign saying... Not for Resale. Anyone else getting that?
Still no update for my 920 wtf
FOR GOD'S SAKE MICROSOFT, DON'T KILL PEOPLE HUB MOVING TILES...
For gods sake please do! That was so annoying!
The windows 10 for phones is good, but I'm running l625, but it doesn't feel right to me maybe I have been hastie and rushed into it, don't get me wrong it works but the difference in what I'm used to with my phone to what it's like on l630 is completely different,it could be dual core 625, Quad core 630, if it's possible I'm going to revert back.
After Installing Windows 10 Preview.touch buttons not working r not working can any one solve this
I installed the windows 10 techinical preview in my Lumia 520, touch buttons not working. then i went for reset option, after reset, settings is not available only radio, contacts are available.. what should i do
even i am facing same problem with touch buttons
Does not work Here drive+ me
Here we screw again -_-
Downloaded it on my Lumia 925 earlier today and got the same impressions as Dan. I can see the promise, but it's really rough. Lots of bugs that really ruin it for me. First attempt, couldn't wake my phone from sleep without soft resetting. After a hard reset, things ran a bit smoother, but phone would get super hot at times + awful battery life. I would be fine with that except that once I left my home, I realized cell data wasn't working. After screwing with it for another couple of hours, I finally gave up. I'm reverting my phone back to 8.1 at 3:00am just to get it working again.
I think I'm going to wait on Windows 10. I'm sure it'll be great. I'm trying not to judge based on this early build, as they clearly just rushed a build out as soon as they could to all the phones possible to make people happy, but it's definately not ready for anything but a burner phone at this point, which is something I don't have.
Unable to use the phone dialer..just loads then jumps back to main screen on windows 10
You're not missing anything. It's horrible
Calls and messaging app have dropped ..thank u MS a lot :)
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What is it with your email!
Dude, all here are guys don't worry about the gurly fans :P
All brothers.. Absolute :D
Received 10.0.12534.56
Hey I updated my Lumia 730 to windows 10 and instead of build 10051 I have got 10.0.12534.56.
Has anyone else got the same??
I can't unlock my SIM. Crashes phone every time.
Use a different phone to remove the sim card lock. W10 has some kind of bug that prevents us using sim card locks.
Alternatively, just reinstall 8.1. There are ZERO benefits to using 10
Did that. Locked it again when I realised my credit was disappearing on mobile data. Should have stopped at 8.1 update 2. Hoping for new build very soon !
What is the version that ends in .56??
10 or gdr2?
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I know it's nowhere near finished yet and it will change a lot, but from looking at that video from the perrsepctive of someone that hasn't used Windows 10 yet, there's a few things i hope they change/include:
- Fully Transparent tiles and black background: My biggest wish. The tile skin option included in 8.1 was great, I much prefer that to the kinda overcrowded background-behind-tile option they've got now, it doesn't go well with Windows Phone's minimalist nature IMO. Obviously it would have to be an option like we have now, some people may prefer what Windows 10 offers now.
- More options for black backgrounds: Clearly MS are putting more of these in, we can see that from Settings. Black saves a bit of battery on AMOLED screens and in my view looks a bit more inkeeping with the design style we're used to (but each to their own). Cortana, Outlook, Calendar and Spartan would look great in black. Blacks also matches the front design of pretty much every Windows Phone device - makes it feel a bit more seamless than the contrasting white on black, especially on colourful devices - colour overload.
- Battery icon bigger: Minor thing, but that battery icon seems quite small. Gonna be hard to have an indication of battery life on 4.5" or less screens. That'll probably get fixed, though.
- Send symbol: Yeah... don't like it. Doesn't fit the minimalist style, much prefer the current 'sending letter' thing we've got now.
- Spartan: Said by many people many times, I wouldn't mind that bar being at the bottom (option for position?).
- Sliders: Don't like 'em. Well, I like the old square ones used in Outlook, but not the new squarcle ones in Settings and Spartan. Windows Phone has always had the square theme, not a circular theme.
- Messaging/People picture icons: See above.
Windows 10 looks like it could be okay, but I'd happily trade in that new functionality to keep the design aesthetics of 8.1. Say I'm one of those who don't like change if you want, but it feels like change for the sake of change, not quite meaninful change - keep Windows for Phone like Windows Phone, the design works already. When it comes to general release, I'd be happy to upgrade to Windows 10 for PC, not sure about phone.
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Is that a new version of window 10? bec last month ago i was update my window 8.1 to 10 in my lumia 730. its crash every thing . window insider is not working and many apps are no t working. so please let me know is this update avialble in india?
Seems it was a wise decision to wait out the comments before installing this.
It's working fine, some bugs, of course, but so nice to see these new feathures !
I love all the new feathures added in This new built....I just have a question, I don't find the option to modify the tiles transparency...any suggestions would be welcome....thanks
You know, what I had to do was go to a plain background then add a background again.
Then it worked...don't know how, don't know why...but it worked.
What I couldn't find though was where the old built-in wallpapers went.
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how can i use the fullscreen background?
Lumia 535!
Mobile Data permanently switched on isn't a super battery drain. No OneNote is a pain as I used to use it for Shopping lists occasionally, but it's something I can live without for a few weeks. To me it feels rock solid.
I'm using it on my only Windows Phone (Lumia 925), and it may not be for everyone, but if you've got another way to use Office then it's fine for daily use.
Windows 10 on lumia 820
Whatsapp voice msg not working
Asphalt 8 not working
Although 521 wasn't listed, installed the 10. Why is the phone constantly using data and wifi even if I am not doing nothing. I know the little arrows above the signal icons appear when searching, downloading, but why if I am not doing anything. Will it consume faster my battery or my 1 gb 4g speed (TMobile)?
Right after installing the Tech Preview, my phone is sitting on a black screen with the battery indicator at the top and nothing else. Great...
I've been fearing this for a while now but now I've seen it with my own eyes. Since all the system apps like messaging, people, pictures, whatever are going to be the "universal" standalone updatable apps I have a suspicion we'll be seeing "Resuming..." a whole lot more now. Just like when Daniel went from the Dialer to the Contact card. I can only imagine pressing "send text" in the contact card would cause the Messaging app to "resume". This is awful. We already have this in 8.1 with the Music and Video apps and it's very annoying. Now imagine it every time you jump from one place in the system to another.
The UI is ugly and inconsistent, I still have no idea what the final design language will be, but I do know that none of these "experiments" they're trying to do in various apps are something I like. Seriously GTFO with the hamburger menus.
Is there a way to send feedback without having the TP installed on your phone? I don't want to use this on my device and buying a cheap Lumia just to give Microsoft feedback is not a good solution. There has to be a way to contact them directly and I don't mean uservoice pages.
You know what "Preview" is right? If it occurs after the release build, then your argument is valid.
They completely ruined the look and feel of WP and turned it into an Android wannabe. RIP WP
hi require one suggestion if anybody know how to configure facebook with people hub like wp 8.1?
Hey Daniel, windows 10 is not going to address "resuming" and "loading" issue?
Seeing this build it seems like MS has hired few designers from google and now they are messing up WP feel or just some of them are highly inspired by lagdroid.
I am a Lumia 820 user and I have got a lot of issues with each and everything after WP10 TP updation.
1. Phone lags big time
2. Outlook mail not working (Not opening)
3. Outlook calender not working (Not opening)
4. New theme not available
5. Settings menu haven't changed
6. Now I have two Cortana. The old one and the new one
7. 2 Calenders
8. Camera fails to open
9. Messaging app crashes
10. Data cannot be activated
11. No flight mode
12. Cannot access settings from the notification drop down
13. No change in the Store
14. Windows feedback app not working
15. Delay in phone ringing
16. Cannot silence a call when pressing volume key
17. Two people hub. Old and new one
18. Here drive not working
19. Here maps not working
20. Back button don't take back to the start screen
In short I am totally f****d with my phone. I shouldn't have updated the phone.
This same happen to me...
Two settings apps in app menu
No spartan brewser......
This is so frustrating
Roll back to windows 8.1 bro. You shouldn't update this one. Too many bugs.
Why they are so much focusing on apps, apps can be updated later, we need more cool features that are missing in 8.1.
I have the latest tech preview installed on my L525... But I didn't get the project spartan...! What should i do?
I can't move to the preview because I have a Lumia 640 LTE which is annoying.
Its too buggy bro trust me
Seems people don't like the new design choices. The truth is, the design concepts won't change. WP's biggest problem is the app gap and these changes were done to try and fix that. If 3rd parties ever start releasing apps on windows phone, THEY will utilize the hamburger. Why, for (1) it's what they've already been designing for other platforms and (2) it's the whole universal design model. Publishers will not design a unique experience for each phone, desktop, Xbox etc... Personally, the design doesn't bother me but I am also currently forced to use iOS.
On my Lumia 520, I've successfully installed the Windows 10 driver, but I don't have Spartan or the new Outlook mail/calendar. Anyone else see the same?
I installed it on 820 I seem to have them...though too buggy
Anyway to provide ms feedback on w10 without jumping on to it?
I'm not moving 10. At this point apart from disliking the ui design, I do not think w10 anything new to the table. My first expectations from w10 were features like snap mode, improved multitasking, better cell signal management. I can just hope that final version of w10p will have features to stand by its name which is supposed to be so great that it was bumped by 2 versions skipping w9
i think MS must enable us to edit those call mobile 1, call mobile 2, call work, call home.... etc, found under contacts if that contact has more than one number. i prefer to put my own names there! ( go to 11:30 of the video to see what i am referring to)
What happened to Office? Can‘t find it.
Not yet ready for w10
How does this version work on the Lumia 730/5???
And my cellular data just won't turn on. Though I swipe it right it remains off, spooky thing is device is still having access to internet even after Data being turned off.
They mentioned that in the bug list
Known issue. This is why they say not to install on your main phone.
It's not fully like android. They are making it more like desktop version. The settings app the hamburger menu etc. There are few things which I don't like Tue battery indicator and the messaging app paper plane send button. Wifi toggles I don't have any problem with it. They just have to put black theme for the OS. And I'm sorted. There are more functional features now. But some design needs to be remade by them which looks terrible. They need to make the tiles fully transparent for the parallax effect. It's good if they listen to us. It's us who make the is perfect.
They have ruined the interface appearance and lags a lot on my 920. Yes it is a beta after all.
I can't open settings!!!!
Are you trying to do it from a tile pinned before the update? If so unpin, open from the app list then repin. Thats what I had to do.
Guys plz help.will resetting to factory settings solve some issues??
I did not receive Spartan browser help me
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So basically Windows 10 is just an iOS and Google Chrome/ChromeOS clone as far as aesthetic design goes, but then with an added sprinkle of crappier performance and subpar hardware choice/availabilty - not to mention poor UX with all those burgers, unlabeled button and everything placed at the top.
Sign me up. I like me some burgers, I like me some cheap, colorful, clown-like UIs. I like to take things slow. It's perfect!
I just can't wait until they announce that C#/XAML/WPF is dead and you have to make apps in JavaScript/HTML5/Python/Go/Google's Tasty Bumhole.
Installed it on my 920 and now I have to soft reboot my phone every time I need to use it because screen doesn't turn back on after i lock it. Anyone else experiencing this?
Yes a delay in screen locking... but after a while it seems to be alright
There's no consistency on the design of "ON/OFF". In Outlook, they still use the rectangular/box design which is congruent to the design of live tiles. However, on Project Spartan and Messaging they used the new circular/round design. I prefer the box. Fix it. Lol
Where is office??
It's a known issue that office was not part of this build. The preview apps are supposed to be released in a couple weeks.
No way I'm gonna install it! Some house I'm liking the UI
2 questions - does upgrade to windows 10 erase your data (photos and apps) and
can anyone confirm that whatsapp is woking on W10
It's working from the first build itself.
Just installed on my (main) 1020. Let's see what all the fuzz is about. :D
Can't stand the hamburger menu.
I installed the Technical Preview in my Lumia 520, but I was having some troubles so I decided to restore my phone with the Windows Phone Recovery Tool, but it failed and now my phone doesn't turn on and the application doesn't detect it, is there any solution? :/
There aren't that many votes for spartan address bar in the feedback app! You guys need to get on there and vote!!! We need to have it in the thousands by tomorrow!
Why is this such a big deal to some?
Anyone here suffering from sim detection problem...!??
Well, holy cow, I didn't think the UI could get even uglier.
But, yep, it sure did. It's basically Symbian-looking....which isn't a copliment.
Yeah its on my 1520 my daily driver and it ain't going back to 8.1 as I think they are going in the right direction with windows 10 a couple thing needs fixing but my 1520 feels like it was make for w10 as more features come to the platform it looks as if it can only get better for me RIP 8.1 unless something get screwed up along the way with W10
This^^^!!
Loaded on my spare 920. So far no huge issues other than some random app crashes. The funniest issues are with the feedback app crashing. I'll skip the obvious complaints and go for my specific ones. First, folders don't appear in Outlook.com mail for mail app. Second, ellipse menu are my personal preference, though not the micro version in Spartan.
So far, not good.
Will WhatsApp run properly in this build?
My sim is not getting detect
Just installed the preview on my old 920. Looks like ill be leaving WP soon. It looks like garbage. Too radical of changes, leaves behind the good concept of 8.1
Yep, the design, UI and layout look pretty horendous, as if the interface design was outsourced to a three man sweatshop in a third world country.
I really wish for Spartan they would have the address bar at the bottom. It would be great for Lumia 1520/930 users because then they don't have to crawl their fingers to go up all the way
As someone who has a small phone, it got me thinking - isn't this a big problem for notifications as well?
Do we need a special key combo to activate notifications? Double-tap home?
*edit*
Actually once you open it, most of the stuff is still at the top anyways.
I was expecting to see the app switcher and multi tasking screen.
Using on 820 there's no Spartan, no outlook, no way to turn on cellular data... Missing lots of features
Awesome awesome, Microsoft keep it up, m happy with w10tp
Same here, after trying it out, no way I'm going back to wp8.1!
Seriously?! No one has noticed Cortana was removed in this build?
She's in my build!
I have no Cortana, and no search via the search key. I would have to open a browser and go to Bing to do a search.
I'm missing Spartan and outlook apps
Are you sure? Look in your apps list. I have both here, L920.
I'm Sure. It's not there but IE is there. I'm on a Lumia 822.
On l820 i can day the same.. No Spartan, no outlook. Could u tell me if u can turn on ur cellular data? Here doesn't change..
Spartan is listed as "Project Spartan"
Windows central should create an article of links where users can send feedback to ms. Most readers would just throw their comments here and would not even bother to go to ms feedback sites. That way we can help to generate more feedbacks .
How about the feed back app in WP10 TP that goes directly to Microsoft?
Anytime tried this on a non-Lumia device?
Anyone having problems with SIM card?
Yes. No service. And Spartan and outlook apps are not there.
Microsoft just solved famine by giving hamburgers everywhere.
Thank you sir.
The scrolling speed in spartan is much faster, which I really like. But what I find strange isn't so much that the address bar is at the top, but that there is also an options bar at the bottom. Bars at the top and bottom aren't good, it reduces the size of the viewable webpage and just makes the controls seperated.
I really do think they should keep the address bar at the bottom, but if they are going to keep it at the top I really hope they don't keep a seperate options bar at the bottom.
ALSO- I don't have a problem with hamburger buttons, but they should just put them at the bottom. Crisis averted.
I second that. Plus having the address bar at the bottom is more convenient for big phone users (1520/930)
I'm sorry there's no convincing me those hamburger buttons are useful. It's plain shitty. At this moment the email works perfectly for me and all the information is at the bottom to simply work with your thumb. I would rather Windows Phone go belly-up than turn into a horrid Google wannabe!
M happy with hamburger menu and w10 is like desktop windows not android
Let me rephrase what Whodaboss said, hamburger buttons are just plain shit.
I just cant imagine a microsoft employee looking at these hamburger menus and saying "hhmm yes, i like there hamburger menus! They are much better than pivot tabs!".
It's not Android like whatsoever. Stop fooling around.
Don't underarm all three animosity towards hamburger menus, but why not just mover then to they bottom? Would that make it any less desirable?
@Icw731
Good point. Yes, moving it to the bottom might make it more desirable. But there was absolutely nothing wrong with the "..." ellipsis. It was simple and clean. There may have been other improvements to make but adding the hamburger buttons was not one IMO.
Anyone with L1320 downloaded Windows 10?
Bad design.
Eh. My email is neither on the start screen nor in the app list. It's disappeared !
Look in the app list under outlook mail
Ah. Yes. Got it. Thank you!
Using back key to get out of the app doesnt close the app, still runs in the background...
MS has taken very clever step to compete with android as they turned windows into android now .
Android vs android now !
Why they are taking so much time in turning it to android , just copies all the API from android and paste them in windows phone and done !
Screw you MS, Win10 has no potential to compete with other OS as they can't stick to their unique design and feel
It is so F**ing frustrating these folks at Windows Central with their passive BS... oh it looks great it just need some polishing. They are so weak minded they can't even bring themselves to say this shit is crap. Everything looks great! Really?! They just smile and pretend it's all good. I suppose they don't want to get on MS's bad side. Oh they are scared they will be removed from MS's Christmas list. :/
That's your opinion dumb, m happy with what ms doing with w10. Its not same like crapdroid, its same with MS desktop windows.and yes everything looks beautiful as a preview
Man you're delusional
Pretty much. I just come here for the news and ignore the opinions.
@Sacul
This is my favorite site for Microsoft news. And yes that's why I come here too. But when something is being shown and it's being presented everything is ok it just needs some polishing in essence an opinion is being given. And the way it seems to me, the presentation here is basically saying that nothing is wrong with the direction MS is going. And maybe that's how the writers on this site feels. No matter what MS is doing it's the right move. They pretend they don't want overtly say it, but their "it looks good" "just needs some polishing" says they like the direction. And that's ok too. I'm saying that direction looks like crap to "me". And yes, that's just my opinion. :)
Yaa ! Its looks crap to mee too. I know its an very early build and i hope microsoft looks to the brighter side of windows phone which is more elegant and interactive. Finger crossed but unifying the design of both the platsforms ( on pc and phone ) is not looking great to me. And i'm talking about the design only!
Soooo, should I be concerned that after the upgrade on my 635, the phone app went missing? No new dialer, no old dialer, no app at all. I can still call people from the people app and then it opens what looks like the old dialer, but the app is gone. Seems counterproductive for a phone OS, doesn't it? Well, I will do a recovery tomorrow and try that again :)
For some reasons, I don't have Spartan on my phone. 520 Lumia.
Running on my 930, still to notice any scaling issues :O Did they actually manage to iron that out before release?
Are the names in the people app readable? In WP8 some long names don't appear whole and i am not sure who the person is. This is an issue in some other cases, too, and i find it very disturbing and impractical.
why are outlook, calendar, onedrive not translucent?
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