Why I'm switching from Steam to GOG for PC gaming

I'm leaving Steam. Well, not entirely. I shall not be uninstalling the suite from my PC, but I will not be purchasing another title on Valve's platform. The reason being; I believe it's time I put my money where my mouth is. I've rated GOG (Good Old Games) in the past for offering DRM-free content, vintage classics that work and great support for gamers. I've purchased a handful of titles on GOG, but now it's time I invest much more.

Here's why I'll be moving across to GOG and why you should at least give the platform a look if you haven't already.

The good guy

Firstly, there's nothing I can really add to how CD Projekt (and its in-house developer) are the good guys in the gaming industry that hasn't already been said already. The Witcher series is responsible for upending the very notion of value for 'AAA' money, shipping DLC that other publishers might ship as standalone titles.

Take The Witcher 3, for example. The game was delayed for the developer to polish out parts it wasn't 100 percent happy with. Match that with the 16 pieces of free additional content that were created post-release, DRM-free copies available, outstanding paid DLC and you have a great user experience. This is the same level of care CD Projekt has with GOG.

The Witcher 3

And how does the company plan on tackling piracy? With nothing other than kindness. Instead of going after those who choose to obtain copies of a game like The Witcher 3 illegally, CD Projekt opted to try and convince them (and others) to purchase the game by offering free content and not going on a pirate hunt.

We totally believe in the carrot, not in the stick... I've seen many times, comments 'Hey, I couldn't afford the game when it was full price, but these guys are so fair, and they were never against us. They were always trying to do good, add a lot of value, give free DLC, give free content, that I bought the game from them when it was mid-price.'

They found by attempting to get these gamers on their side they not only eventually made a sale in cases but transformed them into a fantastic and reliable source of free promotion. The beauty of word of mouth, as you are experiencing with this piece. I love games, and I know CD Projekt loves games. Thus, I see it as a match made in heaven.

This may shock avid fans of the platform, but Steam just doesn't appear to understand me. Valve takes far too long in recognizing issues and doesn't really take the community into account when it comes to implementing solutions. The thing is, it's hard to blame Valve because there has been a lack of competition for many years and thus it hasn't had to do anything to remain in the top seat.

But these issues still arose and it's not something I can overlook. Just take a peek at how they handled the introduction of paid mods on a four-year-old game, the atrocity that is Greenlight, how Steam developers have the power to essentially ban anyone they wish, for any reason (including negative reviews), and more.

Steam's competition

Steam GOG

Steam GOG

Due to good-guy practices and the destruction of any form of DRM, GOG is becoming a strong competitor to Steam and Valve. Once again, it's possible to pay for a game and actually own a copy without having to be signed into a system to enjoy said media. To install a game wherever you want, whenever you want, for as many times as you want is a great feeling to have that was not completely lost with the rise of digital stores, but it was replaced by order of convenience.

"But what happens if GOG was the shutdown, you'd lose all your games, right?" Ah, but that's where the magic really happens. While this would be true for games you don't have installed, the service allows customers to download backup copies of the installer so you can run everything offline. In fact, you could download your library from GOG and store it on OneDrive, never connecting to the service again — it's that user-friendly.


The latest update for the GOG client (opens in new tab) implemented a bunch of features that Steam has enjoyed for some time. Version 1.2 not only brought the client out of beta, but it also added the following:

  • Universal Cloud Saves.
  • Hibernate mode.
  • Ability to customize the client.
  • Bandwidth limiting and scheduling.
  • FPS counter.
  • Screenshot capturing.
  • In-game overlay.
  • Desktop and in-game notifications system.
  • New chat system.

Steam is also not the only place you'll end up finding killer deals. If you're not really bothered about just where you play games and don't care about DRM, it's absolutely worth having GOG installed if only to check the store for deals and cross-reference pricing to save a few pennies here and there. Speaking of which, GOG also refunds customers some of their purchase with store credit, depending on local pricing of titles and currency rates.

Connect and switch (for free)

To get one started with moving across from Steam, CD Projekt offers a Connect service (opens in new tab) that allows one to log into their GOG and Steam accounts simultaneously to have any applicable titles copied across from the former. Essentially, should you have already purchased a game on Steam covered by Connect, you will receive a copy for free (without DRM) on GOG. It really is that neat.

What games are included depend entirely on limited-time offers from participating developers and publishers, and as such they will alter as time goes on. I've already done this, have ensured everything is up-to-date, connected and shall be continuing on with my third The Witcher 3 playthrough. Overcooked marks my final purchase on Steam, which was carried out on March 4.

If you're tired of Valve, Steam, publisher stores and want a platform that doesn't hinder you as a gamer, give GOG a try.

Download the GOG.com Galaxy client (opens in new tab)

Rich Edmonds
Senior Editor, PC Build

Rich Edmonds was formerly a Senior Editor of PC hardware at Windows Central, covering everything related to PC components and NAS. He's been involved in technology for more than a decade and knows a thing or two about the magic inside a PC chassis. You can follow him on Twitter at @RichEdmonds.

  • You've convinced me. I didn't expect that. I'm actually installing the client for no good reason (not buying a game) just because I want to like it enough to switch (so long as my Steam Controller works easily with GOG content). This is not like me at all. What a fantastic article. Why hasn't MS snapped you up to sell phones?
    UPDATE: I said I was actually installing the client because I thought it would be occurring as soon as I hit send, since I'd clicked to download before typing. I mean, good grief, it's just taken about 5 mins to download the client. I was seriously starting to hear ZX Spectrum cassette loading noises waiting for that. Since both Steam and Origin can max my 220mb/s connection this is significant. Imagine how slowly GOG will allow me to download games? It could take hours. Hoping this is just a glitch due to all the WC users currently downloading the client...
    FURTHER UPDATE: I would have tried to download something if any of my Steam games were on the list of transferrables. Seems this feature only works with the Saints Row series of games at the moment though? And I don't own any of those. Could be a great feature but needs some serious buy-in to work. It may be better to just add a way to link to 'non-GOG games' from the GOG client that are already installed much as Steam does. Not perfect, but doesn't need the buy-in to be practical.
  • Thanks for reminding me to check GOG Connect. I own Saints Row: The Third and Saints Row IV on Steam and just got them. They change as GOG makes deals with the developers and they are for a limited time. You just gotta keep checking back. I have probably gotten about 22 games now through GOG Connect so it is still awesome that they do this.
  • It is. Games companies lose almost nothing, and get a load of good will. Why they aren't queuing to get their full game libraries in I have no idea.
  • Really? I own Saints Row 2-4 and GOG says I don't have anything to transfer. I have 890 games on Steam and laugh that it can't find any to bring through on GOG
  • You need to make sure your Steam profile settings are public. The GOG page shows all the games that are available through the scheme even if you don't own them so you can check. Only the SR games it seems ATM.
  • Yeah, my profile is public. I got The Witcher and Limbo through it on 29/11 but nothing since then. The GOG Connect page has nothing under "Your Available Games" and nothing under "Unavailable Games"
  • I just checked. They've now taken down the SR games and put up another handful. Some are international, some are Russian only. Perhaps you checked whilst they were updating?
  • Yeah, it looks like it ended. I found a news post from 20/04 that said this:
    The Deep Silver promo and the Saints Row games on GOG Connect will be available until Thursday, April 27 at 12pm.
    I don't know what timezone that is, as it's already 12:30pm on 28/04 for me. Either way, it looks like I missed out by a few hours... oh well.  Thanks for your help!
  • I usually get about the same speed on GOG that I get on Steam. Of course this is largely going to come down to location and congestion on the servers. Just a note that the article doesn't make clear, v1.2.x is not actually out yet. It will leave beta sometime this week, you have to enable preview updates to get v1.2.x which is far better than v1.1.x. You also get a number of (usually older) free games with GOG when you join, if you don't see them on your account, browse the site and change the price filter to 'free' and you should see them. You can then test the download speed with one of these games if you want.
  • Sounds like the transfer thing is just having it automatically claim titles that are currently available for free? Saints Row 2 was free fir anybody to grab from GoG recently
  • Had GOG for a while, prefered it over steam for a while too, it's great.
  • A couple of years ago on GOG I purchased every single Star Wars game they sold as part of their "May the 4th Be With You" sale. GOG frequently has incredible sales on some excellent games.
  • I had never heard of GOG. To be fair, I barely use Steam as I'm a traditionalist who likes games in disc format. But I'll definitely give them a look. I like smart companies and this "Instead of going after those who choose to obtain copies of a game like The Witcher 3 illegally, CD Projekt opted to try and convince them (and others) to purchase the game by offering free content and not going on a pirate hunt."   is the sign of a smart company. HBO has realised the same. Game of Thrones is the most pirated show of all times and do you think they're bothered? Nope. Because they've realised that by not trying to burn at the stake the people who download the episodes, they then manage to get those people to buy the Blu-Rays and DVDs of the show.   Edit: just went to check them. I love that they realise 1€ is NOT 1$. Microsoft and most other companies could learn that from them. I might actually follow you and quit Steam for GOG. I'm liking what I'm seeing a lot.
  • I've been using GoG since last year can't believe they've not gain much recognition.
  • The good thing is, even if you are living in a rural area with bad connection you can just order a game shipped to you on a disk. Does not matter the game is recent or from the early days. Absolute amazing service. I never looked back to steam since I started using GOG and that was when they still called themselves good old games. Missed out on some good games released over the years, both on Steam and Origin, but the customer service on GOG is just unbeatable; a true role model!
  • Erm, GOG does not ship games on disc... they are digital only. Not sure where you got that idea from, but if you can find a place to download them they do work vastly better with bad internet connection since you can always play them offline no matter what.
  • Guess he means somebody could Download them and send you the installer on a disc or usb stick . You'd have to get a friend to do it I suppose or download from the office
  • I swear when I last bought the witcher 3 I saw an option to have it send on a disk; and also before that for other purchases. So either that option hase been made unavailable since, or only applies for specific games? Or my memory just ***** with me.
  • Why wouldn't you just use all of them instead of quitting one for another. I use whoever have the game I want for the cheapest. Origin, Steam, GOG...doesn't matter to me. Being DRM free isn't a concern for me.
  • This is what I do. Compare prices, find the cheapest, have fun playing the game.
  • Yeah that's true
  • Once you run into the slightest problem on Steam and Origin I wish you all the best to have their Customer support actually help you in a way that is the best for you as a customer. Man, I tell you, the experience I had with both of them are abysmal; I could write a full book of stories. Origin I only used because Friends gifted me some games there but that platform never gave me a reason to buy anything myself there. GOG on the other hand is just amazing. One example: I had a problem with a game I bought not wanting to start. Contacted the customer support and within minutes they responded asking for some details of the system I use and send them some log files. Within a few hours they send me a customized patch which fixed my problem. That was the most amazing service I've ever had, which cemented my good standing with them.
  • I'll pay a premium if it means I don't have to use DRM. There have been several times that I've had to go for months without an internet connection and that can cause issues with Steam even in Offline Mode. I've never had any issues with GOG though.
  • It particularly causes an issue if you never used the offline mode before and suddenly your internet is gone. Had that situation due to a construction site accidentally cutting some cables and it took them 2 freaking months to fix it! Meanwhile I actually had to use my cellular connection to get steam to get into offline mode and I had to do that every freaking week(!) just to play my single player games!
  • This.  The writer's reasons for only using GoG are pretty silly.  Connect has literally FOUR games (all Saints Row) you can migrate right now with a timer on eligibility.  So how in any way is that selling point?   Then there's the CDPR red is a good guy argument, implying Valve is now somehow a bad guy.  What a shortsighted, miguided opinion. They've done so much for PC gaming over the last 18+ years since HL was released.  Yeah they screwed up big time with paid mods.  They also reversed it the very next day.  Yet he claims they don't listen to the community...  
  • steam is trash. they've sat on their asses for years with their monopoly, doing essentially nothing for gamers. sales suck. client is TERRIBLE, and their refusal to fix bugs has annoyed me. I don't buy with steam. haven't in a long time. I'll buy with MS for plays anywhere, otherwise it's anywhere else.
  • I agree their sales haven't been as great as of late.
  • The sales stopped being good as soon as refunds were implemented and publishers were allowed to control the pricing during sales. Fortunately there are still many places where good deals can be had
  • I don't think you know what a monopoly is, or how Steam works for that matter.
  • While I still use Steam as it is still the leader, if any storefront were to give Valve a run for their money, I will support GOG any day so long as they continue to have a consumer first mentality. They are the only ones who bring the old world of PC gaming into the new digital age. If given the choice of buying a game that is on both Steam and GOG, I always choose GOG. You forgot to mention that the GOG Galaxy client itself is optional and not a requirement to download and play your games. Comes in handy for those like myself who have moved over to a front-end like launchbox. I have GOG Galaxy installed, but I don't have it running on boot. I just start it now and then for updates.
  • I don't care about games having DRM and to be honest even if I dislike Steam it's more convenient to have as many games as possible under the same service. That's another reason why I don't use Origin and whatnot (besides their games being mostly awful). And as with any other "Why I'm switching from X to Y" post, sorry but nobody cares.      
  • You and I have at least a couple of things in common. We both cared enough to read the article and make a comment so I guess we're both nobodies :)
  • I've never understood people obsession with Steam and "Lord Gaben". It's about time someone rattled their cage enough so instead of just sitting there making mountains of cash from their store, they went back to making games. HL3, Portal 3, Left 4 Dead 3, Team Fortress 3, even an updated Counter Strike. They've no reason to make these games all the time they can just syphon money from all the other publishers and developers. They basically just take 30% of the money simply with less than 1% of any actual work from their part.
  • The Lord Gaben thing is a jest. Meant to poke fun at people who worship a platform. If you run across someone who says that and means it, you should pity them. Steam has a good foundation as a service and storefront but Valve has lost focus on what their consumers want. I feel like Steam grew faster than they were prepared for and are not sure how to fix the problems that came with it. (Some of which they created themselves) The thing Gaben doesn't seem to understand is that the business model they have of allowing employees to explore their creativity without a structured hierachy model is great. But, the bigger the company becomes the more this model needs structure. They keep focusing on trying to make Steam automated with as little moderation from Valve as possible which will never work in something this big. Also, game development should always be separate from the problems plaguing the parent company. CD Projekt did this right as CDPR only focuses on developing their games. They don't try to run GOG as well as far as I understand.
  • Yeah. You're right about their "work on what you want" ethic. I don't know how many employees they actually have, but it seems that "sit on your ass all day and do nothing in anyway productive for the company" is the most popular of the options available. Makes it pretty clear they are turning over cash pretty heavily. Steam turned out to be a real stroke of luck for them. Like winning the lottery over and over again. I personally have avoided Steam as much as possible over the last few years, my own little boycott for them not making HL3. I'm pretty glad their Steam OS never gained any ground though their Steam Controller is actually pretty good once you get to grips with it. Problem is, like a few comments up, a lot of people have big Steam libraries and like the convenience of having it all in one place.
  • One thing they've done well is steam link and their streaming tech. In my experience on identical networks it blows the Xbox One to PC streaming out of the water for 1080p streaming from PC to Steam Link. Xbox One streaming is rarely useable for me on the same network due to input lag, where as I played all the Arkham games over steam link perfectly at 1080p/60fps I'll never buy a title that MS offers playanywhere on from Steam though, MS has nailed that and it's even making it hard for me to choose between Switch and Xbox/PC for certain games. If Yooka Laylee had been play anywhere I wouldn't be waiting for the Switch version I don't think
  • I'm no hardcore PC gamer, don't even have Steam installed on my Surface Pro. However, based on what you've described about GOG, I'm tempted to install it and start officially doing what I already do. However, only 1 question; do they offer only PC games or is there a way to get old console games? I'd like to officially play PS2 games directly on my Surface Pro 2 (currently do that unofficially)...
  • Only PC games. They do offer Mac and Linux versions for many of them too. Unless the consol game has an official PC port at least.
  • Hey, just a heads-up: using the GOG client (Galaxy) is not required. You can download games through your browser, as a DRM-free installer exe file(s). DRM-free is GOG's main selling point; it makes them easier to pirate, but it also makes it easier on the customer. And sorry, no console games. GOG does use some emulators though - DOSBox, ScummVM, and nGlide being the main ones.
  • This may shock avid fans of the platform, but [Microsoft] just doesn't appear to understand me. [Microsoft] takes far too long in recognizing issues and doesn't really take the community into account when it comes to implementing solutions. The thing is, it's hard to blame [Microsoft] because there has been a lack of competition for many years and thus it hasn't had to do anything to remain in the top seat... I know, I'm bad :p
  • Ha!
  • That's funny.
  • That paragraph can be applied to so many things lol.
  • The mere fact that you can download full, DRM-free offline installers for games from GOG, keep them wherever and however you want and being able to install them as many times you want on as many systems you want gives it a big advantage over steam. I, personally, don't see a reason to buy a game from steam if it's available on GOG. The big issue here though is that the huge majority of games from big publishers are not available on GOG, so it's simply not practical to completely dump steam unless you don't care for AAA games.  
  • This has always been the big obstacle GOG has faced. With the fight on piracy, too many AAA developers and publishers are unwilling to drop the DRM even with CDPR showing the industry that The Witcher 3 sold extremely well on PC despite it being DRM-free.
  • The main reason is cost as GOG simply can't compete on pricing. I can always get a Steam key for far less than GOG
  • I switched a few years back for all games other than those exclusively on Steam, the lower overhead of DRM is great on tablets.
  • I've been a GOG user for a long time, and I really like the client. Not ditching Steam due to my existing catalog, but I do prefer GOG for PC games.
  • I haven't ditched Steam 100%, but I only use it for games that I deem have little chance of showing up on GoG. Being able to have backup copies of your games on a external drive around in case you wind up somewhere with bad internet and get the itch to play something is nice.
  • I haven't left Steam but, if a game is available in both services, I always prefer to purchase it at GOG because of the same reasons given by the author.
  • For the most part I balance my gaming in-between GOG, Steam, Origin, and Windows Store. It all depends on prices and availability on various platforms for me. As I tend to buy the game on the platform with the best deal.
  • I disagree with this article however I think everyone should do what makes them happy.  Choices like these are one of the many reasons why we choose the PC and competition is good for us, the consumer.
  • But the Windows store and UWP is the proprietary and will ruin PC gaming! /s *dig at Epic fella for those who read that ans ignore the /s, lol*
  • Yeah, I've been touting the virtue's of CD Project and GoG since the first Witcher game was released. I love the fact that they have a client but you don't have to use it. You can happily download the install executables for games and just run them that way, I still use the client because auto updates are amazing, but I love that I don't have to. I also love the assortment of digital freebies almost every game comes with, soundtracks, wallpaper art, and more. They understand that there are ways to give bonuses with digital to make it worthwhile over physical. Oh, and for someone outside the US, pricing parity is an absolute Godsend. As an aside there are currently only a handful of developers I really trust enough to buy their games on preorder with complete faith, and CD Project Red is one of them (for those interested the remainder are Remedy, Naughty Dog, From Software and Blizzard).
  • As much as I absolutely love steam, my main sticking point is with their family library. If I share my library with a family member (like my son) who is sitting across from me, it locks me out of my library while he plays one game, so I cannot play another game. If Steam would allow me to play a DIFFERENT game at the same time, that would be ideal. So much for playing Dirt Rally while my son plays Ghostbusters :-( I've used GOG for a long time, when they first started out, there were games that I used to love playing, and either the discs were lost or just plain didn't work on newer windows versions without some fiddling. If a game was available there and on steam, you can guess which market I bought it from. 
  • Was gonna give it a go. Almost every. Single. Title. That I play isn't on there. (1 of 5) I'll check back in the future. Though. Good luck to them.
  • I don't consider myself a gamer, although I put hundres of hours into Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls franchise, which unfortunately are not avialble on GOG. I can still play Steam games offline, and hopefully being a good guy myself will not get me into trouble with Valve.
  • Actually the older ES games are on GOG and can be found here: https://www.gog.com/games?sort=bestselling&search=elder%20scroll&page=1, including An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire & The Elder Scrolls Adventures, Redguard both I believe you can only get digitally on GOG. Buying any of the Elder Scrolls games will also net you the first two for free (The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls Chapter II: Daggerfall). Leaks in the GOG api also have also been found that hint Obivion will be coming soon as well as the Fallout games (New Vegas and possibly Fallout 3). I imagine Skryim will follow after that. So if you are fine with Steam that is cool, just wanted to point out that some Elder Scrolls games are indeed on GOG...
  • Thanks for the info. I'll certainly be looking forward to having the newer games on GOG. Maybe more big publishers will follow the same path aa well.
  • The issue is that the big upcoming releases will still use Steam (unless it's an EA or Ubisoft game - in which case you'll use Origin or Uplay respectively).
  • Steam is not just about games. There is the awesome community and market, with trading cards, etc. Is the community at GOG as good? I've never used GOG. Then again, there are some trolls in the Steam community.
  • Lol DRM, licenses, losing games when online stores are shut down... These are all problems exclusive to digitally purchased games and the main reasons why I still advocate physical media. Plus, the physical copies of Witcher 3 also came with even more bonuses like maps and posters, plus a CD soundtrack and other physical bonuses depending on where you bought it from. Basically stuff that you can't get with digital purchases. People claim digital is superior and the future, but really digital represents a liability and risk to owners and ultimately the benefits don't outweigh the risks.
  • You didn't read the article? This is a problem if the service has drm'ed games. What happens if the company that made your game shuts down their servers. Games represent a liability and risk to owners and ultimately the benefits outweighs the risk.
  • DRM has existed long before digital distribution. Back in the 80s and 90s it came in the form of a wheel or looking up in your manual (i.e. look on pg. 5, word 24 and type it in.) I don't miss the days of needing a no-cd crack just to play a game without having the disc in the drive. Ever heard of SecuROM? That was a nightmare. Whether physical or digital, games have had some form of license or CD-key for a very long time as well. Another thing I got tired of was putting in a disc for a game that was a few years old and after installation, needing several patches before the game was up to date because the version on the disc was at launch and there were 10 patches since then. As for the bonuses, physical versions are nice if you are a collector but on GOG, you get all of it as well in digital form. Manuals, maps, artwork, comics, soundtrack etc. Truth is, GOG is an example of the best of both worlds.
  • GOG is like physical media in a digital form. Did you read the part that you can download and keep full, DRM-free offline installers? Even if GOG dies the installers would still work. You can make as many copies as you want and keep them as backups. Also, the majority of GOG games come with extras too, soundtracks, posters, etc.
  • I see no point in using Steam since they stole my account years ago. Worthless service.
  • Steam has become a ridiculously bloated service.  I supported them in the beginning and for one reason only.  Half Life 2.  Now that Gabe's ego is as bloated as the service, he will never release Half Life 3 because hes making too much money from Steam.  He has no plan releasing great games.  If that's the case then its time for met o move on.  I was one of the first GOG users when they were just giving away Fallout 1, 2, for free just to have the service but never really provided a centralized app/program for the games u own.  Now they do, and I'm going back to it.  Rather support htem than Steam or EA's Origin.
  • Ehh? should you guys compare it to Windows Store first? Also i believe Steam DRM is developer choice. Steam games is affordable on my currency than GOG. Example Outlast 2 gog is $29, on my region Steam its somewhere in $15. Steam market store penetration is high, you can get steam wallet code in store in SEA(also for Microsoft and Google). Or be a trader with your DotA2 skins you get for free for steam wallet. Also non game software.   GOG  have less to offer in my case. Different person have different needs i guess.    
  • Yeah, I'm heading that way too. I prefer GOG, because they have my countries currency, makin' their on patches on new and old games, and finally the option to costimize the UI, getting really sick of Steams 90's theme :S
  • I too would like to dump Steam, I think it has strayed too far into some junkyard, GoG is nice but it lacks too many current AAA titles. Microsofts own Xbox Windows 10 efforts are deeply lackluster.
  • I played the very first Witcher game on PC, I must admit it was a burned CD a friend lent me.  After a while the game became free, literally free.  And then they also gave away the Witcher 2 on Xbox, free, wasn't a games with gold, it was just free
  • Im heavily entrenched in steam with a personal game library exceeding 50 titles, so its hard to walk away from the platform as it's the core of my pc gaming. But I do own several older titles on GOG, titles that are not on steam.
  • I have over 100+ titles on steam. I don't mind steam. Steam has said that if it ever goes down they have a mechanism to release the games from the steam drm. Now, MS I have more trouble trusting. They removed a mass effect game that I didn't even get a chance to play after paying for it and they don't care.
  • So I can associate my Steam purchases with GOG and download them for offline install and if the license expires??? That sounds almost too good to be true. I might have to make the switch.
  • It is too good to be true. There are very, very, very few titles that will allow you to do this.
  • Good move, man. I myself never fell for the atrocity that is steam, nor for newell's elitist speeches of righteousness. As you said, if people were able to look past their fanatism toward valve and newell, they would see that GOG is an excellent platform.