Windows 10 Mobile build 10586.682 rolling out to devices not eligible for the Anniversary Update

What phone does she has?

Lumia 1020

One of the best

I'd agree. If not for it's lack of SD card slot, I would've probably never stopped using it.

Well, you can always install the Anniversary Update on the 1020. It's just a bit tinkering with the registry

How can I go about doing this?

Same for me :) My gf had a 1020 and only recently I convinced her to switch to a 950.

Hack W10M RS1 onto it.

Exactly same, wife has 1020, I have the 950xl! Same reason for no update, can't prise it off her!

Onscreen buttons are indeed bad. Takes up some of the screen space! And if the nav bar is black, the screen looks even smaller!

I used to think that, and still think they look better, but since having a Lumia 950 with onscreen buttons, it is way way better - you can make the buttons disappear which is a huge, huge benefit watching movies and playing games. If they could get rid of the bezel at the bottom (which is small already) it would be perfect, although the USB port at the bottom would probably have to be moved to the top (personally I have yet to use the USB port even once since owning the phone - they could get rid of it completely for my needs).

Yes I can make it disappear.
If you have seen Surface Phone leaked images, it shows that the nav bar is replaced by touch keys as in Nokia Lumias. Besides I don't like onscreen buttons of androids too.
And I am so happy that I'm able to comment here from WC for W10M. It was being very hard to comment from the app previously.

First of all, that is a charger, then an usb port;). Second, on screen buttons burns in. And if you take a look the screen you will most probably notice them on mate blue red or grey;).

I greatly dislike that the true successor to the 1520 went with OLED instead of ClearBlack IPSLCD for this very reason. Despite how much I tried to fight it, both my Lumia 950 and 950XL have burned in nav keys (and both my 820 and wife's 1020 have a burned in battery/wifi/data signal indicators). That and Windows Phones with OLED displays seem to generally get warmer and have worse battery life, even though OLED in essence is supposed to save on battery by only illuminating needed pixels. I truly do hope that when Microsoft removes their heads from their rear on this retrenched state of mobile efforts, their next phone does not feature an OLED display.

That would be a nice Apple-like innovation: skip the USB port. :-)

@ dave_456
That would be called "courage" if they tried to remove the USB port :)

Well, not to mention the burn in problem that is already highly visible now, on my 950xl.......

Don't see any sign of that on mine.. Been using it for 11 months now.

I've got burn in of the nav bar icons and the status bar (Battery indicator, Wifi etc.) but it's not noticeable unless you look, and only on certain colours (like white) - It's not a big deal and I didn't even notice it until I specifically looked.

For me they aren't noticeable even when I really try to see then

Yeah, I've never liked onscreen buttons. I can hide them to simulate immersive mode, but it'd be better if they just used the lip of the phone for this.

Your wife is a Lumia fan girl and I so approve.

She certainly is :) ​Funny how it worked out too.. because  I actually tried to steer her the other direction, thinking she'd be happier with Android since there's more apps (she hated iPhone long beforehand, so that wasn't even an option). The general unstable, unreliable nature of the Galaxy S5 actually led to her being extremely frustrated as it would hang up and crash in really critical moments where she needed it to work... one time of which resulted in her being lost in Missouri - phone was at burning hot and refusing to take any touch or button input. She more of less demanded a Windows Phone since my 1020 seemed to never crash. Baby-stepped her with a 520 (which she loved) then gave her my 1020... now she refuses to use anything else.

435, 532, 535, 540, 550, 73x, 830, 930.

Is 521 eligible

Not anymore.

YES! If this makes battery life better I'll be ecstatic

I can't get this update on my L520 running 10586.456

Microsoft should allow a way for users to upgrade their old Snapdragon S4 hardware to RS1 after they accept some kind of disclaimer.

Those people will eventually complain so much that it could make other tech news sites (not so focused on Windows phones) to say that "Microsoft is sending out updates that bricks phones" and some crazy **** like that. :(

Sadly. That is true. I guess, i'll just retire my old L1020.

My old 1020 is on latest Redstone 2 build.

My L820 as well. Works fine. Slower, true, but fine.

How?

Yes. Give Old Logan its very needed rest, just don't mess with it.

My 1020 runs great on 14393

As great as a 1020 CAN run anything.....I had one and loved it but it's a damn slow phone with poor hardware that was restricted at the time due to what WP could support at the time. It's a Lumia 920 w/ and extra GB of RAM and the great camera sensor. I loved the phone but I couldn't still be using one now having used other much faster phones since.

Snapdragon did say some time ago the older chips would be ok on W10M but it would need a min of 2.5gbr, & that was off the record, you just couldn't get the Ram for those older phones.

Does your internet sharing work?  my 920 stopped sharring on w10m

Mine work only if the screen is on, so a just open some app, like a book reader to keed the screen on when i need it.

W10M doesn't brick anything. It's just the equivalent of an iPhone doing 3 updates in one jump.

They really should. Especially that TH2, RS1 and RS2 already work on S4 devices. Just, you, dramatically slower. Though they're more capable.

The SD S4 & the 400, just eventually struggle with the demands & speed required for the multitasking demands of W10M, Lumia 650 W10M,----//// Also have Lumia 610 W7.5 mango 256MBR, lol things have moved along also have 520, 530, 625, 630, 635, 730, 925, tried 950 at beginning but the experience wasn't good, but I'm happy with the 650. No problems touch wood,

Sweet! Went to check for updates on my Lumia 925 and it was already there waiting to install. Installing now. May switch back to my 925 periodically from my Fierce XL now that its getting this performance update.

Wow, this is an interesting development. I understand they might have reached a level of optimization that they're comfortable updating the old phones with. If I hadn't given my 920 away I'd be testing it. But this is a nice move by Microsoft that I hope gets publicized enough, they did take a really bad rap for leaving out the old phones, and all they wanted was to keep people from having a crappy experience.

Experience was great on my 925. Just battery life suffered a bit that's all.

Right, I left it before release. But you get my point.

Yep. :-)

They aren't making new phones, might as well update the old ones. 950 is now sold out at att with nothing to replace it. Sad days...

There are new Windows phones on the market such as the HP Elite x3, Acer Jade Primo, Coship Moly X1, Alcatel Idol 4S, BLU Win HD LTE, Lumia 650, Lumia 550, Lumia 950, Lumia 950XL,....

Slim Pickens.... Those lumia's are practically sold out.

Saw some unlocked still available on Amazon and eBay

Sure there are, but you can't include the x50s anymore. And I totally support the 950s, they're highly underrated.

Agreed. Ordering a new battery for min so I have another to wear out.

Yeah 3/4 of those phones are discontinued

Yeah. Wish there'd be some more new windows phones.

White version of att isn't sold out. Black one is sold out. Also the Lumia 950 unlock in black is still on sale at Microsoft store. I posted about this in the Lumia 950 section. No one cared to respond.

I went to att website, says out of stock. Good that it's still on MSFT site but probably not for much longer.

Nothing to replace it? HP X3, Alcatel Idol 4S

X3 is massive and expensive. 4S is nice but only on att. Need more options.

Yo dawg, how do I update my 920 on WP8.1 to this??

Not sure but try the microsoft upgrade advisor app. Just guessing.

You can't as all the rings are now on Redstone builds.

How can a Samsung Galaxy Device has W10 Mobile?? If yes then what's the device name? Or is it a screenshot?

Isn't it just the old Samsung ATIV or whatever it was called? The WP version of galaxy S3 essentially.

Ativ S

Ohh okay Thanks for the info

Now I really want to update my 920.

Not seeing it on my Lumia 1020 from at&t

If you were on Insider then make sure you are unenrolled.

How can I unenroll, when I try it just reports a connection error?

How do I get this on L1020? Have been waiting so long to get a taste of WM10!

Me too. Isnt possible with windows insider at the moment.. I was trying from months.. Got any other way?

Make sure you are on the production release.

Does not work. Microsoft has blocked insider updates on unsupported phones. There is one way though mentioned in the WC forums.

Can u plz mention the link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/flash-w10m-...

They have reactivated it now, but I still can't get the update to work.

Actually in 8.1 version of app there is no production release. It has only fast,slow,and release previews

That's right.  For those who installed Insider app, make sure you quit the insider program and check for upgrade again.  Hope it helps.

Zac, I thought you are in the UK. That's pretty late update, no?

Cut him some slack ananve.

It's not a slack, I just think it's already late in the UK. He can't work round the clock and need to rest. I'm worried for him :)

I think I heard Dan mention in a podcast one time that they alternate on the late night articles and OS releases or something like that.

Great. Noted.

Nice to see they haven't completely forgotten about us in the 10586 branch.

technically you should have supported the marketshare and gotten a new Windows phone

Soon I will be upgrading.

They did what they technically could, this update shows the good faith that exists.

No update on Blu Win HD LTE. Waiting patiently.

No update on the 1020. Not part of the list. As is the 635 512mb.

Downloading on Lumia 635. Have to 1st leave the windows insider program with the Windows Insider App before the update shows up.

I don't know why, but my story with a non-supported phone is a bit strange. Last year I bought a used L635 (512MB RAM model) and I entered the Insider program (I chose Release Preview) to install Windows 10 Mobile on it (that time, TH2 branch). When the AU was officially lauched, after waiting some days to receive the update, I realised that it didn't happen because I was participating as a Insider yet. So I left being a Insider, rebooted the phone, searched for a update and came the message saying I had an update available (the AU update). So, after reading that I wouldn't be able to install W10 again if I would back to 8.1 via WDRT, I did exactly that to see if it was right. After rolling back to 8.1 I installed Insider again, but no updates were found, even after many hours waiting and trying Fast, Slow and RP options, so I uninstalled and restarted the phone. So the strange thing happened: I installed Upgrade Advisor and it said that my phone (again, a 512MB RAM model) was able to receive W10! How could it be possible? Without loosing any second more, I installed it (TH2, 10586.107), and after reboot, I looked for updates and it found the AU update again. I would love to try this method on a L1020 or a L820/920, because in my Lumia, after some time days of normal use (listening to music, Edge and Twitter client) it becames slow as my old 256MB RAM 2.3 Android. For sure W10 is not a good guest to such low RAM phones, even having a 4-core processor. Anyone more have a similar story? Alexandre, from Brazil.

Anybody!!! Now can I upgrade my l630 from 8.1 to 10586????

nope, if you didn't force upgrade last year (even though your phone was unsupported), then there is no way to do it anymore.
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You had already needed to be on at least W10M build 10240 or higher.

Just get rid of your old phones and buy a 650, they are cheap as chips and after you install all the updates and upgrade all the apps using the store it runs like a charm!!

If you are in US, Lumia 650 costs $70.
If you are in any other country in the world the Lumia 650 costs closer to $300

Germany is about 100€ streetprice. 250-300 is really quite expensive...

In Europe it is around 120€.

In Canada, the Lumia 650 sells for $250 unlocked.
For that price I could just buy an older Lumia 930 or save up and buy the Acer Jade Primo for $699

We have a changelog, shared with desktop build 10586.679 Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 update history

"It includes the same improvements and fixes from the update listed as November 8, 2016"

For those with a 925 that rolled back to WP8.1, is it possible to use the registry hack and still go down this branch?  I'd love to run Windows 10 Mobile on my 925 and still keep Kid's Corner, which I lost when I went to AU on my BLU Win HD LTE.

nope too late. GO BUY A NEW WINDOWS PHONE :)

Did you miss the part where I said I OWN A BLU WIN HD LTE RUNNING WINDOWS 10 MOBILE ANNIVERSARY UPDATE? Also, WHY ARE WE YELLING? I'm trying to find out something specific here: if I use the registry hack that allows me to install Win10 Mobile on my 925, can I go down this branch instead of ending up in the same boat with Anniversary Update, which dumped Kid's Corner?

Just installed it on my Lumia 920.  Wow it gets really hot after a couple minutes of use.

how can u update ur lumia920?? mine says device is up to date. 8.1

He already used Windows 10 Mobile.

Yup.  Put Win10 Mobile on it around the time build 10586.420 was released. The heat after a couple minutes has cooled off.  Must have been post install side effect.

Wow, color me surprised.

I wonder if they will update HTC phones.

Yes.  If you installed the Threshold branch before it was replaced by Redstone.

yep - just put it on my M8 - we will see. .545 had rendered it useless. ( I hadn't even charged it in a month.) seems smooth now.

Great, wow

How can i update my L525 to W10??

Use upgrade advisor app. It will take you to w10.

That won't work as Microsoft blocked ALL unsupported phones when the RS1 update was released, this update will only install if you already have W10M installed.

Oh i see.

Tell me what I got to do to get this on my awesome htc m8?

Like some others mentioned above if you remove yourself from the Inside Program in your phone it will allow you to download this update. I'm running it on my HTC One M8 now.

That picture is a Samsung phone with Windows os.

Ativ S perhaps?

Probably Ativ SE since it at least has a SD800 and 2GB of RAM.

Go back in time and install 10586.xxx before Redstone came out.

HTC one m8?? Please

Did you get it? Not working for me. I'm on 10586

W10M just do not work on 512 MB RAM devices. Plus there are still some bugs like internet hotspot turns off when screen locks, screen freezes and things like that. After I switched back to WP8.1, I got back Lumia camera, HERE maps and HERE city lens. Plus its so fast and stable. Swipe gestures on news app is so much better than hamburger menu. WP 8.1 was way better than W10M in terms of design, performance and stability. The only thing I miss is Groove music and Movies & TV app.

I miss twitter app alot

Come back to WP8.1 It was the best Windows OS for phones till date. Without doubt.

Good thing those bugs are only on really old phones. Time for an upgrade.

Nah..I am really happy using Nokia HERE City Lens, Nokia Creative Studio and HERE maps on my "old Lumia 720". Also, the swipe gestures are much better than hamburgers.

How can i update my old lumia 920

Nice, getting it now on my Lumia 520 which hasn't been powered on in several months.

my lumia 920 is on 8.1 . can i receive this update??

No you can't as this update is only for those who haven't updated to the AU or have W10M installed on a unsupported phone already.

I rolled back to win8.1 and I can get windows 10 mobile via windows insider. I guess I'll have to use win8.1 from now on.
On the plus side, win8.1 is fast and battery life is good.

"I rolled back to win8.1 and I can get windows 10 mobile via windows insider." Did you mean "I can't"?

Was initially getting error 0x800705b4 on my 1020. After leaving the insider program & rebooting my phone, the update is now installing. Pleasant surprise :-)

Buy a new windows mobile and get official redstone because threshold 2 always sucks

Give me money, it you can

Old phones has low specification so dont hope for the best performance of windows 10 on it.
Windows 8.1 is best for those phones

Maybe. But my 925 runs pretty much the same on this build as it did on 8.1. Only a little less battery life.

You will see huge performance improvement on redstone

:-)

My 1020 is crying with joy

Security updates. Gotta maintain active software branches.

Must be.  I wasn't expecting Threshold branches to see anymore updates.

Why dont you buy L540 or L640 they are so cheap and supports WM10 redstone

Which ring should I be on to get this update? I have a 925.

My 925 was already on W10M via the Insider Program before the "cut off". I was able to get this update today by unenrolling the 925 from the insider program (which I did a few days ago). When I went to go check for updates today when I heard this news, the update was already there waiting to be installed. Installed without a hitch and it's running great!

Ativ S is not eligible to get Windows 10 to begin with.
How did we get to pre-anniversary without a hack.

You would have had to force the update with earlier Insider Builds a while back. That way the device would already be on W10M, and therefore be eligible for the update today.

Last I remember you couldn't do that without a registry hack.

Not true. In the beginning of the Insider Program for W10M you were able to get the build on the now "unsupported" devices such as the 920, 1020, 925 and Ativ S. That was before they decided that these phones weren't eligible for the "official" OTA update. So if you left your device on the insider program and didn't roll back to 8.1. You can now as of today, unenroll your device from the program and receive this update.

Hey! I recently rolled back my L820 to 8.1, but now want to get back on to TH2, the insider app didn't work for me. Any suggestions on how I can get back?

I don't think there is a way to do so now if you rolled back already.

Ah. I'm not too keen on doing the registry hack for I'm afraid I'll do something wrong and brick the phone... Oh well. Thanks for the response :)

No prob. Didn't want to have to try to do the registry hack either. That's why I left it on W10M instead of rolling back.

Nothing on l920cv

Its samsung

Rocking 10.0.14393.448 on my Lumia 820 :D  ... (I upgraded to redstone from TH2 via reg. hack and I am installing culm updates the same way) Huge improvment in stability on RS1 over TH2, also my phone is no more overheating in idle, double tap to wake works better, glance works better, edge is like 10x better than IE. I would say S4plus(MS8960) is running W10M RS1 very well, close to wp8.1 experience. Of course it have some bug here and there (but even 950,550,650 does have same problems... so it is problem in OS itself).  I dont uderstand why we was kicked out of insiders previews, MS8960+1GB RAM (L820,920,925,1020,1320) Is perfectly capable for W10M, at least MS should let us in insider(like do you rly rly rlyyyy want to install this to your ****** phone ? Ok, your risk ... put your password to proceed or smthing like that) so I (We) dont need to ha