We're back with another exciting episode of the Windows Central Podcast, and this week, Zac Bowden and Daniel Rubino have gone hands on with the products announced at Microsoft's epic Surface event in New York. The presentation was a combination of what is soon to become available combined with a glimpse of what the future holds for Microsoft users, including the return of Andromeda. Their enthusiasm is palpable in this jam-packed episode of the the show!
This episode of the Windows Central Podcast was recorded on October 4 2019.
- Microsoft's fall 2019 Surface event | Windows Central
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"Initially positioned as a Windows Core OS device, Surface Duo will now be shipping as an Android device instead, a move that few of us were expecting, but is absolutely the right call." Tell that to the ******** who spammed the Surface, Microsoft, Windows, Windows Phone, and a few other subreddits with a pointless petition wanting MS to make this a Windows 10X device that could natively run Android apps through magic and BS. Nah, this is the right direction to take. MS needs Android to give people their (native) app choices at launch with some specifically developed/patched apps. MS doesn't need another Windows Phone, it needs this. I'm excited for this phone, it's been a long time since I have anticipated a phone this much. I was excited for my first flip phone and my first smartphone, I'm just as excited for this to come out. I just hope MS doesn't leave people hanging on OS and security updates. I'm also hoping that MS can get carriers to ditch their bloatware. No Verizon, I don't need all 5 of your preinstalled apps, the NFL app, three games I'll never play, or half of the other apps that came preinstalled.
Why can't we have it both ways? I know Android user that have Windows OS emulators on their devices and of course most of Microsoft's apps on there and as a Windows user I can have the opposite on my Windows pc, so why can't i have the option to have this on my "pocket pc"? Even if Microsoft doesn't want to make it themselves other builders could do this. I just understand why they wouldn't want to market to both sides of the fence. Simply make an Android and Windows rom for 1 peice of hardware. I dont understand the complication.
Why do people need apps? Because that's how smartphones are used. A smartphone is dead in the water without apps for social media, media consumption, productivity, games, and various others. Windows Phone failed because it didn't have Snapchat (which may not be important to you but it is to others), a music app beyond Spotify and Groove, it had Netflix but didn't have Hulu or the countless other popular video streaming apps, games were a slim selection... That's why people need apps. The underlying issue is that Android has the market cornered. Without running Android, access to apps is severely limited. Emulation will only get you so far without native compatibility. You could put Windows 10X on the Duo but MS was never able to pull mobile developers to their platform before, that's likely not to change now. Windows Phone tried and failed, it's done and not coming back. Android is absolutely the right move for the Duo. Even if developers choose not to support dual-screen devices, the Duo can at least run the back catalog of Android apps and games as-is without a performance hit, having emulation crash, or worry about MS upgrading the Android code in Windows. PocketPC's are dead, they have been for a while. Android and iOS won.
Why do you "need" apps? Why are people so obsessed with them? There has got to be a better way to move forward than to keep appifying the web. If Astoria worked so well then why did they actually abandon it? And why are they sudden under a Google spell? None of it makes any sense. Oh well, so long as a Windows rom find Its way to the device then I'm in. I'll just install an decent Android emulator for all 2 apps that actually matter lol
Neo is DOA. I just can't see it going anywhere in terms of app support.
"I just can't see it going anywhere in terms of app support."It's Windows 10. It runs UWP, Win32, PWA, everything your PC runs. What are you talking about re: "app support" exactly? Apps leveraging dual-screen abilities? It's nice, but not necessary. The apps still just run. So what do you mean exactly re: DOA? Furthermore, HP, Dell, Lenovo, and ASUS all have similar form factors coming next year too. You think this is a one-off PC and not a concerted shift in the industry? I have some sobering news for you that we talk fully about on this very podcast, which leads me to believe you didn't listen to it.
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