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All modern Windows Phones can get Windows 10, flagship 'later this summer'

With Windows 10 for phones around the corner, at least in a preview, the question still on many people's minds is 'What about my phone?'

The issue is both simple and complicated. Let's break it down.

Short Answer

Yes, all current Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 devices can get Windows 10 as an upgrade. Sure, there could be some restrictions (mostly the camera), but the Lumia 530 and Lumia 635 are just as likely to get this update as the Lumia 1520 and Lumia 930.

Microsoft was certainly showing off all of their current phones with Windows 10 today and boasting about this fact.

Even for the Windows 10 preview program, all of those phones should be able to get the upgrade. Microsoft has said this for a while now, so this isn't even news. However, I can state that as of today, they are still sticking to that message.

Longer Answer

Carriers. You know how they are. They still play a role in which phones get updated and which do not so they still have some power here. However, since Microsoft has a preview program (both for early builds and one for later builds), people have options.

Flagship and release

As mentioned earlier, Microsoft was hitting the message hard that a flagship Lumia phone is on the horizon. Ifi Majid, director of product marketing for Microsoft Mobile Devices, mentioned that such a phone (and updates for current phones) were likely "later this summer".

For some time, I have noted that I do not expect a flagship until summer time, aligning with a proper Windows 10 release, and this is still the case. I'll have more on this maybe tomorrow as to my thoughts about how and why on this timing. For now, I'd plan on that timeframe.

Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

478 Comments
  • How do you type these articles really fast Mr. Rubino? Haha
  • He might be a wizard
  • Cortana was the one typing. You mean "she?"
  • her?
  • @Kleen I lol'd.
  • She? Programs are no he and or she, its simply it.
  • Programs, like cars, are the personality you give to them.
  • Sounds like a woman, has a female name, based on a character that has a female body and is referred to by female gender. Yep, its a woman (also, you and your "its an it" are the reason the robots will rise up and kill us all)
  • Cortana is a "she"! You can ask her and she will tell you ...
  • ^ Mic drop.
  • Cortana's default personality is a she.  Get out of the 90s, Newton Crosby.
  • I have a typing speed of around 55 wpm... Daniel might be faster.
  • Or he might just keep some articles saved until he decides to release a couple at a time.
  • Are you a journalist?
  • No man, I write books as a hobby... 
  • What a nice hobby.
  • "Honey, this film is boring. I'm gonna go write a book or two."
  • I type 81 words/minute at best... 75 on average.... I have a personal tech blog and i can punch out a blog post in under 5 minutes.... So I get out he does this. He can type as fast as the words come to his head, so writing a quick update probably takes him less then 5 minutes
  • Yeah, that was my speed about 5 years ago. Now I'm down another 10 wpm to 65 on average. I used to type 130-135wpm, but... arthritis and carpel tunnel tends to slow you down a bit at times. Can't do what I used to do. 
  • I Jane a tipping shed of 120 weirds per minutes. Beat me!
  • Oh yeahshg weld I csxn tywpa evenfastet tham th3t
  • Not that fast, thats 1 word per second.  My typing speed is around 130wpm, thats 2 words per second.
  • I can probably type hundreds of words per minute - of course it all depends on how long the words are ;)
  • Haha right!
    Now I'm wondering when WCapp will get updated, it lacks many features that are available on website.
  • Its that new dell man! burnin' up the keys :)
  • There are many spelling errors in most of these articles though, but no biggie, they are getting the stories to us
  • i'm sure he's using a handy software editor they created for WCentral editors, even if not, being an editor ,you gotta be able to type fast and have many small tools at your disposal, it's his job so of course he gotta make things easy for him to his daily stuff
  • Certain pieces of information are given to media ahead of time but are NDA until a certain time. They're able to write up certain articles ahead of time and publish when NDA is lifted. Other small simple articles can be quickly put together on site and published\updated as needed.
  • *** except Verizon, the slowest carrier in the west.
  • ATT is not much better lately. Microsoft needs to stop this BS carrier testing and test it themselves only and release OS+firmware as fast as possible direct to customers, not just the preview program bs.    
  • Yes john great plan. At that point us carriers will drop all support. Microsoft can't ignore them to much, unlike Apple, because they need the carriers.
  • LOL you said "carrier" and "support" in the same sentence NOT seperated by "won't", "cant", or "dont"!!!!! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE KIDDING?????
  • http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7867109/windows-10-for-phones-in-photos this link shows some images of windows 10
  • I typing with my 2 fingers...beat me
  • LOL ^ I am around 100 words every 4hrs!
  • I knew that after Daniel's come back, he will write a lot of articles and explain everything to us.
  • I would examine the cryptic use of How and look for the missing Who...
  • What about non Lumia. The m8 for many of us? Curious as I just bought it and have time to return it. Love the phone but if it isn't upgradeable, I'll hold out until a proper Lumia flagship.
  • By modern phones do you exclude the old Lumias ?? Like the 520 and 925??
  • Same question here
  • "all current Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 devices can get Windows 10 as an upgrade"
  • They just don't get it
  • I just don't understand all these people. It couldn't be more clear. And yet we get all these people asking "Will the 520 get updated to Windows 10?" and "Will the M8 get the update even though it's not a Lumia device?". Goodness folks. I'm just waiting for someone to ask if their Lumia 800 will be able to update to Windows 10.
  • Yeah, so do you think my Lumia 800 will run it? What about my 900? Or 610? Plzzz respond plzzzzz
  • I think the Nokia 808 might
  • @ajst222      http://wmpoweruser.com/chris-weber-even-the-lumia-435-will-get-windows-1...
  • Since a Macbook can also dual boot Windows, can the latest iPhone get Windows 10 as well???? /s
  • Can my pizza run Windows 10?
  • Yes!
  • Only if it has pepperoni firmware!!! XD
  • And my cat can run Windows 10 too?
  • Probably not, but your refrigerator can run Windows 10.
  • "Can my pizza run Windows 10?"   I shit you not, that was EXACTLY what I was going to say...
  • presumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.. besides.. people want to know are they going to get the update rather than is it possible for their device to run the update.. just because you/he/she/it can doesn't mean you/he/she/it will get something/update...
  • http://wmpoweruser.com/chris-weber-even-the-lumia-435-will-get-windows-1...
  • Yeah, except when Microsoft allows a carrier to screw us.
  • please read article, it's so straightforward to find the answer
  • Somewhere in the article reads 'Yes, all current Windows phone 8 and 8.1 can get Windows 10 as an upgrade'
  • They should get it. Some features may vary (because of different hardware) and the update must be build upon Windows 8. If Windows 10 replaces Windows 8 completely the 36month support lifecycle may not be provided. I'd like to offer the source but the Microsoft website auto-redirects me to the German site (which many of you will not be able to read).
     
  • Of course it can. If HTC doesn't give it,or Verizon, you have the preview program. Point is, that phone CAN run Windows 10. It's out of Microsoft's hands after that.
  • If you put windows 10 on a One M8, will stuff like boomsound and dot view still work? I know they do on dev preview but this will be different. Any ideas?
  • I would assume so. Just a matter of taking previous drivers over. However 8x users got the 8.1 DP late as HTC and MS had some last minute work to do...same could be the case here !
  • Anything at all about interactive tiles ,otg or multiwindow function?
  • Its not out of Microsof's hands, Microsoft can stipulate conditions for OEMs so they have to allow owners of WP handsets to update to newer OS versions. The preview program is no substitute to a proper release with firmware optimazation, you just need to take a glance at the forums to see that there are plenty of issues across different handsets with running the preview build. I don't care IF my Lumia 1020 CAN update to Win10; all I care is WHEN WILL it get the update and whether ATT will delay it once again.      
  • Microsoft has never been in a position to stipulate conditions for updates, with the carriers or the OEMs. Google is in the same boat.
    As far as issues with the preview go, people tend to post questions or problems in the forums, not success stories. I promise you, for every one phone screwed up from PfD, 1000 still work perfectly. If AT&T delays again, you have three options: Get the preview. Get a new phone. Or stop crying about it
  • How can you "promise" any quantification like that?
  • I hope the preview can do it, in the past there have been firmware requirements to builds through the prview program. If W10 requires a new firmaware, we could still be at the carriers mercy.
  • Ah, but the catch with the preview program is firmware, which the carriers still largely control. The OS might update via preview, but some features may not work without a corresponding firmware update. Otherwise my 925 on TMo should report Denim by now, even if only just a name change.
  • Daniel Bro, pls do help me here. Can u pls tell me where this featured image is taken, and can u pls send me the full resolution pictures of the above phone wall.I just love it..Searched all over the internet, but cant find one.. Pls do lemme know and post the link as a reply to this message brother..Pls do help! I love this pic a lot!
  • He said all windows 8 and 8.1 are upgradeable not lumia only phones
  • I know he said all WP 8.1 BUT maybe he's skipping some info. Maybe he didn't finish the phrase and next time he'll say: All wp 8.1 WITH 1 gb ram. I hope it's not the case.
  • smdh  
  • Someone's paranoid... Watch the original announcement if you don't want to believe anyone here
  • I purchased the M8 on AT&T with the Dot View Cover after work today. It really is a nice device. I almost bought the 6+ until someone mentioned the M8 earlier today. Completely forgot about it.
  • I'm looking to buy that phone too. Now that it's in my price range of $400 mint. So far I've gone from Fire Phone to Ativ SE. But I want something on AT&T and this is as good as it gets. The Ativ SE, though a good phone doesn't work well enough on AT&T's network. Plus, I think I got my first lemon in that one...would only receive half my texts and bad Bluetooth connection.
  • Well, the SE ia for VZW, no wonder. The Best for AT&T would be a Lumia 1520, 1020, or 830.
  • Not really much of a Nokia fan. Ironically, I left Nokia for WP, unlike a lot of people here. Though I will admit I have given all the phones mentioned at least some thought. In the end, I think I'll either get the HTC or a Neo and wait for the next flagship. But at this momemt, I'm leaning HTC.
  • All means all right? That includes my 1020 right? If so, this would be a great relief for me, as 1020 was not part of the Denim update
  • if you read article you'll see answer, i don't know why you doubting you won't get the Windows 10 update, also why are you saying you won't get denim update, you'll get Deniim update but certain functions( camera functions) won't apply because of our 1020 hardware restrictions.
  • Its probably because the update situation on WP has been laughable at best. MS need to just do what apple does and not rely on the bastard carriers to release updates on their own timeframe (usually, never). The carriers don't want to have your phones updated for free.  They want you to buy a new phone and get a new (or extend your old) contract by another 18-24 months.
  • If MS had the same kind of power apple does, I'm sure they would. But as it stands, people don't stand in line for days to get a Lumia like they do for iPhones. And rarely do you have the option to buy the same device from a different carrier like you do with apple. The carriers would probably drop all WP support without a second thought if MS tried to force their hand; there's far less money in WP than apple or android. So MS has to bow to the carrier's will until they can gain some power
  • Laughable? By Apple standars, maybe. Its miles ahead of Android.
  • As my 1020 is no longer in production, it may not be considered current.
  • fdfsdf
  • It should be updatable. If you're not going to participate in the preview release you might have to wait for your carrier for sometime.
    I just signed up for the Windows 10 for mobile so can't wait :)
  • I was thinking to get a M8 for my girl....
    When will she gets the update??
  • Will my mom's iPhone is on 8.1 technically. Will it get Windows 10?! lol
  • U wot m8?
  • Will htc 8x get wp 8.1? Then we can think about w10!
  • Upgrade time is in March hopefully when the M9 comes out a windows version comes as well. 
  • That is my thought exactly. If the M8 had a better camera, I would be all over it. If the rumors that all. W10 phones get the Lumia camera Apps, then there is no reason to hold out for MS.
  • The m8 camera is great. For a front facing one, that is. I heard that's what they're doing in the m9. The back is probably a 20mp, but I wouldn't get my hopes up based on what I've seen from the other phones like the desire eye.
  • Of course there is lmao. You're getting an essentially new camera UI with the same piss poor m8 quality :P I'd wait for the true innovation I.e. Lumia 1020 esque camera and not a camera from 2001.
  • That's what I'm waiting/hoping for as well.
  • Lets hope HTC sold a fair bit of the M8 Windows edition to keep supporting Windows. (wasn't released in Australia which is a bummer :( )
    I have the Android version of the M8, but I choose to use the Lumia 930 over it. The only down side is the battery on the 930 doesn't last as half as long as the M8.
  • M9 ANDROID version, I don't see them releasing windows right away. Had an htc one m8 before, the camera and a symmetrical design drove me away Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Oneplus One
  • All will get it ..
  • I hope it's at least early summer...
  • Early late summer ^_~
  • I love what Microsoft is doing with Windows 10, but the next flagship isn't ready until "later this summer"?! That's unacceptable! Time to show more urgency with this "mobile first, cloud first" vision!
  • At this point, it's better to wait until W10 is ready and release a flagship then, rather than release a flagship now and promise an upgrade (again, ahem, the Icon). W10 is a massive undertaking, so I'd rather see them take their time and get it right rather than rush to market for no real reason right now.
  • Your perception is wrong...it goes "other mobiles first, cloud first.......then Windows Phone" xD If you want proof of this notion, just look at all the other app releases *cough* office touch, Skype, etc ... before Windows Phone.
  • Your attitude is what's unacceptable. They've effectively said that every existing Windows phone is already getting more support than any other phone ever from its maker. Say thank you and be grateful.
  • calm down man. That's my opinion, and as a current Lumia 1520 user and a Windows Phone supporter since the WP7 reboot, I think it's valid. I sold my Lumia 1020 and I've been waiting on an upgrade for a long time. I settled for the 1520, but the camera still can't compare to that of the 1020.
  • No, it really isn't valid. Why? Because, like someone mentioned with the Icon, you'd have a new beast that isn't running the latest beast OS and most people want both. So wait a little bit, let Windows 10 get finalized, then release a new phone that runs it like a champ to show the new OS to the world. Instead of "here's a beast phone, we'll update it when the carriers let us."
  • I agree with the comments stating to wait for the high-end to be released to get Windows 10, because getting a flagship to be released with Win 10 saves alot of trouble for alot of people :/. I understand the frustration of people saying to release a flagship now, but I'd rather wait for a good phone than get a crappy phone now. Sometimes it's gotta be quality over quantity guys :/. Besides, carrier updates suck. I had to get the Dev Program just to update my 925 to Denim (b/c AT&T still hasn't released the denim update themselves -_-). If Apple can get away with releasing one phone a year, so can Microsoft, I say.
  • Grateful for what?  MS being slower than their competitors to market.  I dont owe MS squadushy.  MS needs to understand it's easier for customers to punt and go iPhone or Samsung.  No flagship.
    App  Gap  (please be real it exists think Chase!)
    Feature Gap  (cant edit a reply in an email ! WTF) Oh.. but MS will let you upgrade your 1020 that doesnt have all the features of an 830 which has a crappy camera compared to the 1020.   But I should be grateful???  I think not. I'm a long time MS Admin (Server, Hyper-V, Exchange, Lync, Clients, SCCM, VMM etc...)  I have based my carreer on MS technology for over 25 years !   This "Mobile" strategey is an EPIC fail if I have to deliberate switching to an iPhone.  Pathetic MS. I think I just got a little barf in my mouth..... /rant
     
  • Apple won't be updating their phone until Summer, same with Samsung, and both of those devices will be iterative. This will be a Windows 10 phone; something new in the sea of sameness. ;)
  • The timing is complete bullshit. People in the US have zero options for a high end Lumia. There are still some 1520s available, but not for long. And it's a six inch phone, which is too big for most people. Icon is pretty much gone, and the 930 has never been released here, and no international version is available with the right frequencies for LTE. I really think this is disastrous... they should get something out with decent specs, and just update to Windows 10 when available. So frustrating.
  • And for those saying they should wait... there's no reason they can't ship something good now AND release another flagship with Windows 10. This isn't an either or situation. If they can release 42 low end phones in 3 months, they can definitely release two flagships in a year. Give me a break.
  • They should just complete the current gen with the 1030. When Windows 10 comes out they can start with the 940.
  • I wonder if it's only going to be one flagship. I would think they would make successors to at least the 1020 and 1520. One regular, and one phablet.
  • M8?
  • Sigh. Many people don't want a flagship with a crappy camera and highly questionable future updates. That's why I specifically say "Lumia".
  • Camera is fine and what makes it futher highly questionable?
  • Camera is not on the same plane as Lumia 1020, or even 1520/930.  I don't want a camera that's "fine"... I want a camera that is phenominal.  Doesn't the M8 lack a hardware camera button as well?  Blech. Lumias have an excellent track record of updates.  HTC... not so much.  Sorry. In addition, I don't find the hardware design to be anywhere near as attractive as Lumias.  I also far prefer capacitive keys to soft keys.  These are, of course, personal taste.
  • HTC One M8 says hi.
  • I for one did not think Microsoft would introduce another high end Lumia phone ever!  But Microsoft now is on the record that they are going to develop and release a high end Lumia smartphone.  They may even do more then one like a 4.7", 5.5" and 6" all high end!  That would be great!  But I settle for a 4.7" if that make any; the 4.7" is the right size for me! 
  • Rubino doing OT today. Even after this article I am sure lot of questions about if my phone will be able to upgrade to windows 10. If not just get a new phone. lol
  • if people read the article they'd get the answer
  • I guess 1520 for now and a new flagship later this year
  • Only for Lumia or no...? Im planning on upgrading to an HTC One M8 in a couple months
  • Already answered above. Yes for all current WP 8 and 8.1
  • The m8 should get it, as they said "all windows 8/8.1 devices" if HTC doesn't step up, they'll be shooting selves in the foot. Plus there's always the dev preview or w/e its called. Love my m8 and the camera is fine for my uses :)
  • Daniel, does Windows 10 allow for Microsoft to change their firmware updating mechanism? They control firmware upgrade for Surface and no one has to rely on their ISP to approve the updates. Wondering if Win10 provides this same flexibility if, say, Windows Update became a universal app to send out those updates. Perhaps that's what Joe meant when he said Denim would come first half of 2015.
  • I hope so that would be like an late Christmas present... Carriers suck with all the crap they put us through!
  • If MSFT were to offer wireless phone services like Google has announced they plan to do, then MSFT could issue updates to devices immediately, or at least control the testing directly to get things done faster. If would be a good move on a number of fronts. Now, will they do it?
  • Surface updates don't have to be tested by the carriers. Wish it wasn't the case but everyone barring Apple has to deal with the process of going through carriers for the "testing" of upgrades. I think it's pointless since most software updates really don't interfere with the phones antenna but they'd rather protect their backsides and make our lives miserable. Good thing Microsoft started the insider program.
  • That's kind of my point. Surface updates don't go through the carriers and it seems that phone updates do only because of contracts. Doesn't seem like there should be a technical limitation to getting the firmware updates, but a contractual limitation because of the carriers.
  • Good point..
  • Ms needs the carrier's bypassing them will do more bad then good.
  • Anything on the firmware + software through the preview program, Daniel?
  • Is the 920 included in that wall?
  • I think I saw the 925 on the right, but wasn't sure. I want a better picture!
  • read the article, the answer is right there.....
  • Don't see the Lumia Icon in that pic, must be on the wall of shame.
  • Lumia 930 = Lumia Icon, and it's on the top.
  • Lumia 930 > Lumia Icon (929). Icon is currently & officially still at Lumia Black & WP8.0 with Verizon having firm control on roll out of OS update. Sure, Belfiore said "early 2015" for update but that is vague at best. If he would have said "By the end of January," that would be meaningful. From Verizon retiring the Icon to the lack of meaningful communication, the Lumia Icon deserves to be on the wall of shame.
  • LG needs to come in. HTC needs to again after the m8. Samsung after the SE. 
  • Honestly I don't really like any LG or Samsung phones. But it would be good for msft if they got more higher end phones so I agree!
  • i feel the same way about lg and samsung but i might change my mind if samsung offered a windows version of the galaxy s6
  • Ty
  • Windows Phone 8.1 was also expected "in summer" last year. The Icon still hasn't received it from Verizon. So yeah, not holding my breath for an official update, and Microsoft saying everyone will get it is obviously not that relevant due to carriers (as pointed out in the article). Other carriers might do it though, and we can at least get the preview program. Of course, the preview program will not broaden the userbase the same way an official release does. Only official releases really count.  
  • Yeah, the OEM release dates mean squat to me. -posted from my AT&T 830 running "Denim"
  • Short answer is actually longer than long answer :P
  • Yeah I noticed that too, lol
  • "the awkward moment when..." I was looking for this comment..
  • +930
  • Ugh! Summer huh? The truth is my 920 is still working perfectly, but this waiting for a flagship phone is killing me. An early upgrade to to Windows 10 on developer preview just might be enough to keep me from jumping ship. But if they hold up the preview for the 920....
  • My concern is that my 920 might not last until late summer/early fall.
  • What will you get in a flagship that the 930 doesn't offer? Yes I know its not avail on carriers, but I picked up one for 400. Also, I rather let a true flagship hit after the android ones die down. Give me a flagship with a Intel cpu
  • By all means, I'd miss Glance too much, myself.
  • I got used to it. I do miss it too, but not enough to make me worry. Double tap is still there. For me however glance served as a night clock. That is what I miss
  • Microsoft really knocked it out of the park with Windows 10! Offering it for free to even Windows 7 users was also an absolutely brilliant move. They've addressed just about every tiny little thing people were frustrated with. Settings menu, Office, Email, Notifications Centre, Web Browser. Can't wait to ROCK it on my 1520. Thank you Microsoft.
  • But, made most people who like Windows 8.1 on there PC and laptops very unhappy by removing most of the Windows 8.1 UI features! :(
  • Like which ones???
  • namely?
  • Umm, what ones? You sound like you're repeating some post you saw on an angry persons blog.
  • Awesome! thanks for the heads up ;)
  • Modern phones!!! My 620 is going down the hall of shame.
  • Nope its upgradable Even the Lumia 520 will get it
  • he meant his device is quite old but will still get the update
  • I guess I will be on preview for developers for life. +620
  • I can't wait going to save money from my income tax to buy new flagship phone I hope it's a beast in so many ways fingers crossed
  • all hoping for international release and no carrier nonsense
  • If you get a tax return, you're do I Ng it wrong. Well, a return of any substance anyway. :-)
  • In my state, it's practically impossible to do it right. I've seen tax rates change multiple times mid year, especially for state (aka, "corrections"), and it's rarely in the taxpayers' favor. Refund? What refund? The state ended up eating 95% of the fed refund, and that's on a good year.
  • Speaking of W10P (I created this shortname btw), on the Action Center, is it possible to expand the notification there to see the full information? Example: I get a notification from the ESPN hub, but I can't read the whole notification message.  Will I be able to expand that in the Action Center to see the whole message?
  • Yes
  • Would you like a medal for using the first letters of the words and joining them together?
    sheesh
  • It was more of a joke than anything else. But since you're such a smartass then yeah, give me a platinum medal with diamonds around the edges. Label it "Most Appealing Name in History" as well.
  • No, I don't believe in crediting the self entitled bunch constantly trying to claim credit that are plaguing these forums
  • Wow. You're so diligent to what you do! Great job! Continue the self-righteous fight! /s Clearly you have no idea from any of my forum posts what I stand for. No worries though. Do some research before you claim to call someone "entitled."
  • Self-entitled*
  • Self-entitled is redundant. If you decide to use a word or phrase, please learn how to use it correctly. I'm done with this asinine conversation, as it's leading nowhere.
  • Then why are you continuing it?
  • So ... It's a waiting game ... then ...
  • You should be used to it by now! This is the standard Microsoft mobile thing, waiting. In 8 months you will be able to buy a phone with last year's specs and it will only be on Sprint. It will be the same time the new iPhone 6S, LG G4 and Nexus come out so it will be completely overshadowed. Most people won't even give it the time of day and Windows will continue to be an also ran.
  • No, man! Not this time. MS-Word engine on my flagship's e-mail client? Stunning browser with tablet like functionalities? All Windows settings like Recovery option, etc, on my phone? OneDrive as a perfect backbone doing what not a single competitor can? One OS to rule them all? Write once, run everywhere apps? New Office? Well, I'm sorry but I haven't read a single word from iPhone fans or Android fans bashing "our" new features! Nobody will be overshadowed, I'm afraid! From a hardware viewpoint, anything better than a 930 will be already perfect! It's display res. is already better than iPhone's 6 e.g. and so on... W10 rocks and there is nothing the competition can do against it now! Nonetheless, other options are always a good thing. Not for me though. ; ) Cheers!
  • @bleached I actually don't expect that since you are describing what Nokia was doing prior to being acquired. MS strikes me as a different beast and I think they listen more than Nokia did. When they do a prime product, they usually do cutting edge (looking at the Surface Pro line and their other gadgets).
  • Im hoping that Microsoft has half a clue when they release their flagship phone and make one phone across all networks! Plain and simple. Not like Nokia does/did with one model number for at&t, then a slight variation of the hardware for Verizon, then nothing on Sprint, then something similar to the At&t model, but with a different model number for T-Mobile. This bogus business plan that Nokia had of limiting the availability of phones and exclusive contracts for different carriers just doesn't work!!! Not to mention that its confusing as hell. (look how well the same plan worked for Blackberry) Meanwhile Apple and Samsung are cleaning up with the "same phone on all networks" plan. No confusion.
  • I second that!
  • yeah i'm hoping they announce phone and release within 2 weeks tops and no carrier exclusives, hit competition hard that way
  • Exactly. Just load the phone up with all radio frequencies. One OS for all platforms running on one phone running on all carriers. Just bill me for the extra $5 a more advanced radio will cost. Really, I'm fine with it.
  • Nokia had no choice but to offer exclusivity agreement to a carrier in order for them to even consider carrying high end Lumia models. They are made custom for each carrier in the U.S. Outside of North America; Nokis/Microsoft phones come unlocked with all the radios for a wide regional markets.
  • I wish that when you mention summer or any other season, you also say the actual month. Im always confused since I live in the tropics and we only have summer and rainy seasons.
  • Five months at least :-)
  • Icon.
  • Contract is up in August. Perfect timing.releasing it alongside Windows 10 may give it something to piggyback for marketing as well. 
  • Mine too. But my 920 is kind off dead the sim tray doesn't work and no more warranty, they say. So it's just a small tablet XD. I'm thinking get 930/1520 now and when contract ends get new beast. At least that's my plan lolzz
  • Going by historical behavior, you'll probably have to wait until November for a new phone.
  • Why all modern phones? Is there an antique??? Made of wood?
  • Yep. Those are the WP7 series.
  • Quick question maybe someone had asked this before, but there are plenty of Q and A lately, I haven't been able to read all of them. They plan to roll out the windows preview this February, does that mean all phones will get the preview or those on previews for developer.
  • you just answered yourself, those who enrolled for preview of course.
  • Thanks, prolly I just wanted affirmation lol :D
  • Thank you Daniel for your clarification. The m8 will do until the m9 comes out. Would be a shame if they waited 6 months again after releasing the Android version. In all reality I'm really hoping for a successor to the 1520. Today was a good day!
  • Time to hate Verizon twice as much now. JFC...
  • Will Lumia 520 will get it
  • Yes But Not Yours MS blocked your IMEI :P /Sarcasm
  • Ouch... Too far away. Will MS hold back on any flagship phone until Windows 10?
  • I still didn't get my denim update... and we're talking about 10?! I'd rather not have these dates and predictions if they don't hold true MS.
  • What dates? Q1 isn't up, so Denim is still on time. Why do people create dates only to let themselves down on those created dates? So in essence, Microsoft is holding true to their date for Q1 for Denim.
  • They said free upgrade to windows 10 for first year. Does this includes phones?
  • phones it's free regardless, 1 year applies to desktops and laptops
  • One curious thing is, with Microsoft said that Windows Phone 8.1 will be upgradeable to Windows 10 for free within a year after its release, does it mean that you need to pay to upgrade the phone after one year?
  • free for 1 year applies to desktops and laptops , phones are free
  • Got a bit worried when I read "Modern" in title... Phew! __________
    Yep, summer sounds about right ... The software will be finalized by then & all the kinks are ironed. Plus the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 should be in mass production by then & Qualcomm fixed the "Alleged" overheating issue.
    (insert I'm Okay With That meme here)
  • Lumia 920 will receive Windows 10?
  • Oh my god, YES, you goose! Learn to read.  
  • dco1993 deserves to be downvoted.
  • Ugh...how crappy. So we'll get a MWC peek that lingers and kills the device hype until it launches in August? Microsoft's been terrible at this for a while. Apple usually launches their pre-order a few days after an announcement, then ships the devices within a couple of weeks. On the flip side, everything with Microsoft seems like it involves waiting for months--often several. I'll keep twiddling my thumbs until the Windows 10 Preview, then hope it gives me some fun times as my 920 winds down to the end of its life.
  • I know I'm in the minority but I just wish if they can include a forward button along with the back button.
  • and that would forward you to? ...........
  • Why is it that Apple can directly push an update to all of their phones, but Android and Windows Phones need to have carrier approval?
  • Right!?!? This would be so much consumer friendly
  • Because iPhone is so trendy that carriers don't want to lose it so they have to cave to Apple's demands.
  • Not true; Apple had this since day one.
  • Only one one US carrier then because the sales were so high, all the carriers were desperate so they had to agree to the process of the ios updates
  • $$$
  • Apple was able to negotiate that deal with AT&T originally, as the carrier back then didn't think it would amount to anything, so they gave the store away, so to speak. Fast forward years later, and the iPhone became so popular that the other carriers had to agree to the same deal from Apple.  The carriers will probably never allow that to happen again. But, yeah, Apple is in a unique market position to be able to make demands, and the carriers have to jump, or they lose the iPhone on their network.
  • I would cry a river if my 720 didn't get the upgrade. Thanks God it will
  • Daniel. How is the performance of Windows 10 on the phones you got to demo?
  • Seems faster
  • 925??! I was thinking of getting a W10 Phone anyways because my contract is done in September
  • Please tell will Lumia 520 will get this update
  • please read article, answer is clearly there
  • The Instructions weren't clear enough, and now my Lumia is runing Android.
  • I'm not a fan of these "updates" the way that Microsoft is releasing them. Windows Phone 7 users? We don't care about you..here is Windows Phone 8 and you have to upgrade. Now it is: Windows Phone 8 users? You're going to need Windows 10 for Phone for the good stuff because our current customers don't actually matter because we look to the future where everyone will either be fed up with us or on board with us. I love my Lumia 1520, I really do, but Microsoft's ENTIRE approach to mobile is genuinely F'd.
  • What the hell are you talking about? I really don't understand your gripe... they are specifically saying all WP8 phones can upgrade. They can't force carriers to release the updates, so they do the best they can with the preview program. What's the issue?
  • what you're saying doesn't make sense,don't know if it's your english but it doesn't make sense
  • Oh God...
  • Sure phones can be upgraded but what about things like firmware ?  You can install 8.1 PfD on the Icon but it's runs like crap without the proper firmware.
  • and we all know enrolling with preview for developers is at your own risk .....remember
  • Well that's a great selling point.  Install at your own risk.
  • preview for developers has nothing to do with selling points, you don't hear at any conference that they tell you install "Previews for Developers"....read description for it.
  • 928??
  • Nope. They said it was too old and Verizon only sold 10 so they aren't bothering updating it.
  • Well then that means no Verizon phone will get updated to windows 10
  • How about the new wide Lumia announced for India?
  • RE: Carriers. Its time for the press to drop the hammer on them and their slow play of updates. Its not just for Windows Phone either. Google is hiding, in effect, behind the skirts of the carriers with the excuse of "carriers/oems" with security patches to the core of Android/AOSP.
    These guys really need to be called on the carpet, in a concerted, across the board public shaming. Its called for and justified.
  • And what about the Nokia Lumia ICON?. This is going to have the Windows 10, BUT "no the complete version" I mean the it wont have the full Lumia Camera version, I'm I right??
  • You are getting the full camera with denim lol
  • Yeah..., It sounds silly my Q, but I have Denim firmware but what I don't have is Lumia Camera neither "Hey Cortana" I only have Lumia Camera Classic not the new version
  • L830?
  • Daniel, not sure the best place to post this, bit I just wanted to congratulate you on your excellent coverage. I may be somewhat upset with Microsoft, but you guys are absolute tops in my book, and I love the site!
  • I can't wait for your thoughts tomorrow.
  • How about my Lumia 1020?
  • read the article and you'll know if your 1020 will get it,
  • Maybe it's time for Microsoft to take the choice out of the carrier's hands?
  • Windows 10 for Phone is such a long name.
  • Yea, about as bad as Windows Phone 7 Series. Just call it WPX.
  • it is......your point is?
  • I have a thought... While I've been impatient waiting for a new flagship (successor to 1020 or 1520), Microsoft has A LOT riding on this version of Windows and why not be prepared to showcase it with the best flagship device(s) they can. A simultaneous release (OS and device) makes a far bigger statement than an announcement that, "oh yeah, that 1030 we released 8 months ago will run Windows 10". They are timing the release just right to have the biggest clout. That, combined with everything else (OneWindows, Xbox, etc. etc.) keeps them in the headlines all year. I am as excited as I've every been.
  • It is like 9 months away. That is an eternity in the mobile market. There will be new iPhones and iOS updates at that time as well as all the new Android flagship's will be released. Considering there current "adorable flagship" has the S400, this new phone will probably have the 610 and a 900p screen when all the new phone will be 2k with the S810. Microsoft is always behind the curve.
  • I couldn't disagree more. I would still take my L1020, the L1520, or L930 over any of the "flagships" running other OSes. My issue is I've been using my L1020 for well over a year now and I like upgrading every year. Microsoft has too much riding on Windows 10 to release "interim" flagships to satisfy a few impatient "fans". No, I believe they will release an amazing phone with great innovation just as Nokia/MS did with the L1020 and L1520... Those phones still outpace comparable flagship phones from competitors.
  • That 930 (in the image) with Wooden Back .. !!!
  • Sounds like September 30
  • What I wanna know is will quick reply trough action center where you can reply without opening the app will it work with IM services like watsapp
  • Again near by send of September-October just like WP8.1 last year, very happy if that happens.
    As I will try windows 10 phone before purchasing new windows 10 or may be purchase phone of windows 10 which will be officially launched by Microsoft in this year.
    Hope for best, Fingers crossed ffor asap.
  • i could imagine the dumb questions that will follow from this article
  • That's perfect. Nothing to explain.
  • Nobody noticed there was no new tile explosive feature..& xbox music overhaul. :/
  • Early builds. Both could still be added for RTM.
  • Early builds, early builds....as Joe B. put it.
  • Not to mention Xbox music was separated from WP8 so they could send independent updates without relying on the OS update schedule
  • Free for WP 1st year? What is that mean? No win 10 update for 2nd year?
  • Same question here. Prob gonna be an annual subscription like their cloud services are now.
  • It's free to update during the first 12 months. After that it will cost X amount to upgrade from WP8.1. It's a way to get people to actually upgrade ASAP so they don't have to support so many different versions of OS.
  • Well... Windows 10 is a free upgrade for 1st year... I think, that means if anyone is trying to upgrade their smartphone within 1 year of the release of Windows 10.. It'll be free.. So after 1 year they can't get windows 10 for free..
    We can explain it in a different way as well... Those who bought smartphone within one year.. Say after 2014 january.. They will get new OS upgrade... But it's all confusing and i don't think anyone can explain it.. Let's wait for microsoft to make a statement.. ( or we may have to wait for Daniel to wake up ) ;)
  • You make me weep for the future of human intelligence
  • Guess I'll never get to try denim. Unless of course it's required before the preview can be installed? Then I would be screwed..... Damnation upon you, AT&T!!!
  • Screw the American 'free market'. :)
  • Hopefully they'll bring in some designers to make it look nothing like a Lumia. This is the perfect time for the "Surface Phone with Windows 10"
  • A design refresh would be nice! I love my 920, but it looks like a toy almost
  • I think the 830 and 930 are two of the best looking phones ever made. If the new flagship looked like the 930 but with removable battery and SD card support it would be my next purchase. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Will Windows 10 will be available in Nokia Lumia 525 OS8.1
  • No. Microsoft has this new requirement, you have to learn to read articles and not ask dumb questions to get windows 10
  • what about my lumia 525?
  • What about it?!!
  • will it support windows 10?
  • Yes. happy?
  • And when will be Lumia denim available for Lumia 525 OS8.1
  • Did anyone notice "Free Upgrade for the the first year". Can anyone elaborate....
  • If you migrate to win 10 during 1 year after its release, it will be a free upgrade...and after one year if you decide to have windows 10 you will have to buy it
  • Correct.
  • Carriers really screw up Microsoft.
  • they do the same to android. they care only about sales and not support
  • When Windows 10 for phone comes to preview, will it be stable enough to have on your daily driver ? and will all the currently available apps work on it ?
  • These are questions I need answers to too.
  • The first builds will be released during last week of February..and don't expect it to work as preview for developers...it wont.. It will be in alpha stage.. During April.. MWC will be the day that you can expect the final version of Windows 10 for phones and there is a chance that you will get a beta version of windows 10 which will be much stable and can be used as daily OS..
  • MS should make three high end devices under the Lumia Icon name
    1. Lumia Icon 1540
    2. Lumia Icon 940
    3. Lumia Icon 1040
    ...........................
    Perfecto❗... Or ditch the 1040, and give the 940/1540 both the best camera technology possible. The later preferably.
  • I think they should stick with something more simple than Lumia Icon xxxx. People want catchy, easy names. Let one be named Lumia Icon and forever so, perhaps with a single number behind (1). Like the MacBook Air. No name changing every year.
  • Flagship meaning better than say a 930(Icon) or a 1520 even a M8 hmmm I wonder what the definition of flagship will mean when this device launches. I hope we dont see any more "flagship" exclusives to carriers
  • Move to a free country, mate. Then you won't have that carrier exclusivity. :)
  • No, you'll just have their "affordable flagship" Lumia 130 - no, 135
  • I can just imagine those 6 inches running Windows 10.
  • You don't have to imagine it... Just watch the video from earlier..
  • Making app folder like in Lumia Denim will no longer be present on windows 10
  • And who told you that?
  • Sorry I am asking whether it will be there or not?????
  • Um. Microsoft didn't say all Windows Phone 8 will get it, they showed specifically only those with 8.1. So the Lumia 810 won't be recieving it most likely, officially anyways. I know there were also some variants of others that were still stuck on Amber as well, and those most likely will not get it officially either. Hoping the original flagship and phones of its era get this.
  • Bravo
  • Marvellous :)
  • Did  miss where they were "hitting the message hard"?  What I saw was the sightest of mentions regarding a flagship.  It was just one more of many bitter disappointments with this entire event for me.
  • If you watched the whole two hour event, they promised a WP flagship, and dropped the phrase "flagship device" like four times, and mentioned how they knew we were surely needing one
  • Even though I'm not an American I still get so frustrated. How can you guys, in a free country with a free market let the carriers decide on phone updates? Phone updates they don't have anything to do with. Why not let Apple or MS decide when you should update? What if it had been the same thing with that PC you bought in your local store? If they could decide when you're allowed to update. Rise up, Americans. Fight that shitty system! :D I'll support you through cyberspace from Sweden.
  • I think it comes down to lawyers here. They are demon spawn. But so are some of the people. Many would have a law suit if they updated their phone and a feature didn't work to their liking.
  • (Dry look)...despite the hysteria about carrier exclusives, North America is simply a different business model to the rest of the world. It has nothing to do with democracy, it's simply that most of us buy our phones on contract. Therefore, the carriers are a big customer. Because they ultimately purchase the phones, not the end user. The end user doesn't own the phone until the contract is paid out. And so, if they demand exclusives, they can do so, because Windows doesn't have the critical mass that iOS or Android have to be able to freely dictate the business model and Microsoft need the sales. There aren't enough end users willing to pony up the full cost of a new phone for this to change (for now).
  • Well Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland have pretty much the same business model. You purchase the phone with a contract for 12-24 months. I believe most of Europe do the same. It doesn't matter what phone brand we're talking about. We just don't like when big companies tries to push us over. :) Perhaps you guys get there some day.
  • The stupidity and crying.  smdh
  • Great news! It's mid-summer already in Australia. Look forward to picking up my Windows 10 flagship next month!
  • Lol im in new Zealand so me too!!
  • Now that is optimism!
  • Short answer is longer than the Long answer. Pun intended?
  • Haha!
  • I am so excited for the future today!
  • Come on Microsoft my 1020 is hungry
  • Is there a deadline before which you should apply for the insider program for windows phone?
  • No u can apply fir it anytime u wish
  • My Lumia 920 still going strong. Waiting for 1330 though. Will give a shot to windows 10 on 920.
  • All of you guys are wrong!
    He uses Microsoft's "Word Flow". It even went on world records xD
  • http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/21/7867109/windows-10-for-phones-in-photos
  • Well, I've had the 1520 since 2013, getting the 930 as an interim but will no doubt upgrade to a new Microsoft branded Windows 10 phone in Sept/Oct, given that it is actually a flag-ship phone...
  • Great!
  • Icon won't be on 10, and Verizon won't carry flagship... #predictions
  • @Daniel Rubino. MS said that Win10 will be free if upgraded within the first year of release. How do you think they will "license" it on a phone after that date? I mean on a PC it's old fashion way, buy it new retail or upgrade you pay for a product key, but on a phone? I am asking this because you mentioned the carriers which, some of them, take a hell lot to release the updates, or people that simply do not upgrade within that year. I am also wondering if the upgrade onee initiated is tied to your microsoft account so, in case your phone is reflashed by manufacturer service in case of warranty repair, you will be able to update again to 10 even if the first year has passed.
  • They've never charged users for WP upgrades in the past, and they won't now or ever. The cost for the upgrade applies to PCs and large tablets
  • My point being they won't use a licensing system like retail upgrades use
  • Great
  • Good to hear from you Dan, a few of us were worried about you. I was getting the vibe that MS may have finally decided on a better update plan, that was less reliant on the carriers.
  • It will likely be a 5inch device. Hopefully means a 1520 replacement soon after.
  • A real flagship or another affordable flagship?
  • For those who're asking why it's taking so long for a showcase Windows 10 for Phone: Common kernel build (in progress), Preview release mechanism build (PC completed and in market, Windows for Phone, in final RTM stage) Alpha RTM test cycles (PC in progress, Phone imminent), Beta RTM test cycles (PC and Phone-not started), Gold Core Build, consolidating findings from Alpha and beta test cycles (not-started, remember folks, W10 core kernel MUST work on all platforms!), RTM release (not started). The above is just the software side. It has to be aligned with Devices, Services and other units. It has to align with Marketing. Security. Field Support. You get the idea. "The rapture of a timely release will always last no longer than the first sign of a perceived significant flaw"-framed sign on my desk.
  • Will it come for 520
  • No. Microsoft has this new requirement, you have to learn to read articles and not ask dumb questions to get windows 10
  • I'm still waiting for Denim in my Lumia 630. I have Denim on my 720.
  • Please up WP10 come onnn ..
  • Daniel thanks for yours lot of articles now you are tired go and sleep in the dreams of Windows 10
  • How it is possible that the longer answer is shorter than the shorter one?
  • Nice! But I'm skeptical installing it on my L920. I mean, with the current state it's in now, battery draining faster, temperature going off the hook as soon as I turn on data... I'll just chill for a new Windows 10 device.
  • You never know, maybe it will become more efficient with battery use and not get as hot with the upgrade.
  • Well, will just wait and see. I hope it really improves.
  • Will L520 get it also?
  • No. Microsoft has this new requirement, you have to learn to read articles and not ask dumb questions to get windows 10.
  • I'm hoping in the near future that there will be a definitive list of which devices can get it. I'm also very much hoping that the 925 is included!
  • Microsoft said All Lumias will get windows 10* *if your carrier dont give you new OS , you can still get wondows 10 through developer preview So just keep calm and wait for your turn.. And stop roaming here and there asking "Will Lumia XXXX included or not!"
  • Ya it clearly says all WP 8 or 8.1 can upgrade
  • My Nokia is covered however it might be dead by the time Windows 10 arrives!
  • can i get windows 10 update on my Lumia 530?
  • Read the above comment you fool
  • I love how the short answer was longer than the long answer.
  • Hopefully by the time it's released there are still windows phone fans around.
  • With the unity of all form factor devices I can't imagine not attracting new customers. The app explosion will soon commence.
  • I hope that's the case but I wonder how many people like me who have an old 920 and want to upgrade to something now are not going to wait another 9 months for a flagship to come out.
  • Micorsoft please post the list of windows phone (Model wise) which will get Win10
  • I hope they do. People got really confused after that Lumia Conversations post (including me) :/
  • Can my 630 will run it?
  • Nice
  • amazing W10.. It gonna change world.. Appl* gonna kicked off and and*id too.. :)​
  • Is there startscreen landscape support on Windows 10 for phones and small tablets
  • This is one of my number one feature request and swipe multitasking, but looks like nothing shown. Upsetting!
  • Alright this might be stupid.. but what does the 'for the first year' mean? Does it mean after a year we gotta pay or free lifelong if we upgrade within a year?
  • You have to upgrade within one year after Win 10 debuts.
  • Oh thanks
  • How do I become a Windows phone developer
  • Channel 9
  • download visual studio in your pc.
  • Learn .NET
  • Learn C# or c++ or VB. And XAML
  • Are lumia 920 get update to win 10 huh??
  • Oh my god, you obviously haven't read the article.
  • You should stop with these misleading article titles, I can guaratee you ATT and other carrier branded phones will be lucky to get the Windows 10 update by the end on 2015, not even close to the summer release. I am still waiting for Lumia Demin and WP8.1 update 1 from ATT  on my 1020 to use folders and other basic OS features; and the preview program does not count since most people need their primary phone to work flawlesly so there is no way I will risk testing new OS versions prior to official release.    
  • 1020 is nearing the end of its life cycle. I ran the preview for devs on my old 520 with no problems, and that was my primary phone. Now my 920 is older than your 1020, and still I've had no issues. Just do it and stop whining
  • Does this include the HTC 8S? Because even HTC forgot about it
  • How it's update Nokia Lumia 730
  • Desperately waiting for full blown Windows based flagship phone device! In my opinion, that flagship device should have 2+ GB of RAM and arch64 ARM or cherry-trail x64 processor. In my separate opinion, Windows 10 should also support MIPS (both MIPS and MIPS64) to achieve even higher ubiquity -- because Windows Mobile and Android OSes support it.
  • So far, I'm still happy and satisfied with my 1520, besides the touch issue.
  • Is the 1320 included???
  • Why would you consider that as an antique Lumia?
  • Im excited to Windows 10 on my mobile phone. I may need to buy the cheap Lumia 535 though to test the Windows 10 preview, because I don't want to mess up Lumia 930.
  • Any news about wifi direct?
  • How about my Lumia grandpa the 920??
  • Obviously a modern Lumia (like all WP 8.1 models)...
  • The Windows Phone 8 patriarch should be the first to get it. Still king.
  • What happens after 1 year, I mean should we phone owners pay money as its free for only 1 year
  • Your phone shows the blue screen of death. And explodes.
  • I've never heard of someone having to pay for a phone OS update, ever.
  • Have the M8 as well...a bit slow, update path uncertain,...almost wish I could go back to my nice, big, fast 1520 after seeing the demo. Oh well, the speakers on the m8 are cool and it has a nice aluminum case. Waiting for the 1530......
  • I have to say, I don't think the htc speakers are any different from 1520. Now that you can adjust the audio. Does anyone else agree. Lumia 930 speakers are the best in my opinion, the sound is beautiful. But the best speakers on any device is possibly the blackberry passport. There so good.
  • You're dreaming if you actually believe that 1520/930 can touch the M8 speakers. They may match M8 in decibels, but not in clarity and they're stereo speakers.
  • The recording mics are great on the 930 but the speakers on the M8 are way way better than the ones on the 930 or the 1520, imho.
  • Yes they are ;) The M8's speakers are the best I've seen on a mobile device so far, they're like WOOHOO!
  • i was thinking for us on T-MO it will next year lol
  • My 920 will have to survive a bit longer then.
  • Just to change the subject. Does anyone know if Microsoft forgot to flip the denim switch on CV 1520 and 930 . I'm past waiting . I'm more concerned now. UK here. .
  • Question Daniel, why are the carriers in the middle of this updating mechanisme? As far as I can read in other article iOS and Android updates are NOT being limited by carriers , but by Apple or Google themself. Isn't it time for Microsoft to rethink their way of delivering these updates?
  • Only Apple's updates don't require carrier approval...
  • What does flagship Lumia Phone mean???
  • It means the specs are as good as the newest iPhone or android devices. 2GB ram, at least 20 MP camera, latest Qualcomm processor
  • A Lumia that has all the latest and best hardware out there (processor, graphics, screen etc.)
  • What about 520
  • It's modern like all other WP 8.1 phones.
  • If they just make an upgraded 925 ...
  • 930...
  • I cant see any dual core phones in the pic!
  • YES! A new flagship just in time for my cellphone plan upgrade. It was written in the stars... :D
  • Can't wait for a Windows Flagship device but you want MS botch this up by making it a carrier exclusive or not even releasing it in North America. (ie. 930)   Come one MS, get your act together.
  • I have an upgrade to be used. I'll wait until MWC to see what you have up your sleeve MS. I hope it will be worth the wait
  • Hi is Lumia 720 capable of getting Windows 10?
  • No. It will explode if you download it.
  • What happens after the first year is up on mobile devices ?
  • Same question. Anyone?
  • HTC 8X?
  • Hahaha Verizon....
  • I hape it will be the replacement of 1020, running on the latest chips (808 or 810). they must cover that camera hump with a bigger battery for some of us who do not mind the weight. right now i have saved US$600,00 for the phone and my target is to have saved at least 1000,00 by the time they release it. I buy my phones in UK, Clove
  • Just read this in Lumia Conversations...
    Like any upgrade to a new operating system, not every phone will upgrade or support all possible Windows 10 features, and certain features and experiences will require more advanced future hardware. Our goal is for the majority of the Lumia phones running Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 to join the Windows ecosystem... Source- http://lumiaconversations.microsoft.com/2015/01/22/the-lumia-you-love-ge...
  • Scary
    +1020
  • I'm putting my money on my 1020 not being updated.
  • I'm putting my money on the exact opposite for my own 1020 - out of the Lumia devices that end in '20', the 1020 is the highest-spec Lumia after the 1520. The '20's make up the majority of the WP userbase, and so if the 1020 can't get it, neither will anything below, leaving Microsoft with just a handful of the high-spec '30' models and 1520's that are actually upgradeable. :)
  • I'm going to use the latest 8.1 dp till the official version of 10 drops.
  • Same. Did the dev preview once and learned my lesson. If I had more than one WP I would give it a go though.
  • So... that means no update for 620, 720, 820, 920 and 1020? :(
  • You don't know that.
  • Didn't they all come with WP8? I don't see why you'd make that assumption.
  • Truth be told, seeing how things were going, this is the timeframe I was betting on.
  • Summer is a too long a wait for a new flagship IMO. Win10 better be the "end all, be all" everyone's expecting it to be or I recon this will turn ugly for MS. I'm not upgrading my 820 for now, but if I were to do that I think I wouldn't be able to find a suitable replacement on WP right now.
  • Note: The ICON was not listed, because we all known Verizon won't give another update after denim. Preview program or nothing, as that is all we are going to get Screw you Verizon ​ ​ ​ ​
  • Will it take as long as it is to get Lumia Denum on my 1520 from AT&T?
  • Is Lumia 520 in list of getting windows 10 update? Because it is not seen in the phone group of that image.
    Is windows 10 free for one year?
    After that they cost us huh?
  • It is my understanding that if you update to Windows 10 within the one year time frame; you get it free and all the updates afterwards is free too!
  • There are a few reasons why Apple doesn't have to wait on carriers to test updates.
    1. We're talking about Apple so don't say anything negative
    2. Apple has had only 1 (8 of the same one, just lighter, thinner, faster, defies the rules of gravity, makes you feel better about yourself every year when you watch their magic show to go wait for days in a line before it's released & to make sure everyone knows you just got the best iPhone ever) until now 2 different iPhones (so 9 total) thus making it easier to update even if it makes the phone unusable
    3. The carriers are forced to commit to purchase large amounts of units with an average price of close to $500 (no deep discounts given to the carries), so if they don't sell the units they've committed to (example Verizon fell short on it's commitment & was in the hole $14 Billion in 2013 but renegotiated with Apple to avoid paying by committing to purchase even more units over the next few years) they're going to be screwed big time, so they will bend over backwards & let Apple do whatever they want.
    4. If you forgot we are talking about Apple so the same rules & standards don't apply to any other device's.
    So in conclusion the carries really don't care about Windows Phone, Android, or Blackberry. Their Motto is Apple 1st & only, because "A Happy Apple a day will keep Tim Cook & the legal team away"
  • Verizon would be the number 4th carrier; if Apple decided not to sell the iPhone to Verizon.  They would go from having 115 million customers to 40 million with two years!
  • After reading some of these posts, I realize that too many people post without actually reading the article's. Please stop asking questions that are clearly answered by a little reading comprehension.
  • Where is the lead photo from?
  • I hope they address the speed. I spend way too much time seeing the words Resuming... Please please let windows 10 get rid of that. Make it smooth again like wp8.0
  •  will we get it on our Lumia 520? 
  • What about people who paid to upgrade from windows 7 to 8 ? can MS give them some credit in the App store for the price paid by them or were they a buch of fools who jumped to Win8 too soon . still thinking.. i was one of them ...
  • That timing works great for me.  My 920 will be updated to Windows 10 and then around Xmas time I can find a deal on the new flagship phone. My only hope is there is a Surface 4 Pro in that timeframe as well. 
  • I'll upgrade Windows 7 pc to Windows 10 a.s.a.p. and get me that flagship Windows 10 Phone ^^
  • There seemed to be hints that they would announce something at BUILD, but it sounded like it was not just a hardware announcement.  It sounded like they have something to announce on phone update deployment too.  I've heard from a friend in Verizon corporate that MS is working with them and other carriers for fast deployment of Windows updates.  There may be something bigger coming that puts Windows over Android in its updating ability.  It sounded like they wanted Windows 10 updated regularly on all devices.  Could they throw the carriers a bone and open the door for patch Tuesday on phones?
  • Win10 for Icon in 2023!!!!
  • Good for my Samsung
  • Yay I can upgrade my 1020... so it can say... RESUMING................. Sorry.. but that is the truth.
       
  • Daniel, I didn't see any mention of the NEW Windows Previewer app that was mentioned in the weeks leading up to the Microsoft event.  During your time there, did you discuss the new app with anyone and what it's role is going to be for Windows 10? Thanks.
  • I was hoping with the introduction of Windows 10 for the phone, Microsoft might have taking the update procedure away from carriers and done it like Apple do for iOS.
  • Ah, its really simple actually.  I have an Icon on Verizon.  That means I won't 8.1 or 8.1.1 or 10 ever.  I'll just get to read about everyone else getting the updates.  When my contract is up, I'll go to AT&T and get a Windows 10 flagship phone.  Verizon, by then I am sure, will have 100% abandoned windows phone and just have Andoids and I-Phones. 
  • Even the Lumia 810  
  • T mobile we want windows phones!
  • Excited about the preview programme. Just a question of when to jump in (when most of the basic bugs are sorted). Free fun for 2015.
  • Sooo December 2016.
  • Will Lumia 520 get windows10?
  • Can and will be 2 totaly different stories.....
  • I'm okay with this time frame. I'd just like to see a quality piece of hardware, if not multiple pieces of hardware.
  • I sure HOPE there's a new Flagship device coming soon! I sold my Lumia Icon when VZW discontinued it without a new high end device. I went to a Moto Droid Turbo but while it's awesome for an Android device, I miss the funtionality of my Windows Phone! Come on VZW and MSFT! Get on with it now!
  • And, HTC 8X didn't get wp 8.1 yet!
  • Can someone access the Blog I am seeing reports that someone posted a late night post that says not all current phones will be able to have the update
  • 1520 yeah ♥
  • 920????????
  • +920 really need this update please
  • I was aware a few hours ago that the Windows 10 for phones will br only in the 432 535 and 930 lumia phones. :c
  • I would assume that the flagship release will coincide with the WIndows 10 release. This leads me to assume late summer. Conveniently that will be when I am due to replace my 6 Plus. I am hoping for a phone the size of the 6 Plus but with less bezel since there is no home button. So long as the hardware is right I will go back to WP despite the app gap.
  •  I really hope that everyone reads this so that they can stop blaming Microsoft if they're not getting their updates and put the blame where it belongs, with the carriers. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Microsoft say that they would provide support for at least 18 months and considering that we are now in 2015 and the first WP8 devices came out in October/November 2012 so I'd say that they're living up to their end of the bargain.
  • Why don't you just make a table with y or n !!! If we are so sure....thats simple !
  • Will the HTC One M8 For Windows Get The Update To 10?
  • Can Lumia 530 get camera update of lumia 1520 camera...!!!
  • I don't understand why the wait for the flagship. This seems to be the main issue with windows phones (asides from apps). If all windows 8/8.1 phones will be upgraded to 10, than why can't a flagship be released earlier and updated later? If they are hoping that people will wait another 6-8 months, than they need to release some spec's soon and they had better be top notch. 
  • Ok guys, I understand US customers complaining about carriers not releasing the updates, because in US you do not have the option to flash a country variant version of OS on most wp devices. But for you out there in Europe, what are you complaining about?!? No one is keeping you from flashing your Lumia with a country variant ROM! in case a warranty appears, flash it back with your carriers ROM. As for the W10 update, MS is gonna have a lot of work to do to configure the updates for each phone's generation. You cannot expect all the features that run on a Snapdragon 800 to run on a lower model. The problem is not in the phone area, but in the Win RT area where those few customers with Surface RT models and other tablets with WinRT seem to be left in the dark, as comments and blog posts say, there will be "some windows 10 features available" which sounds like the same situation with WP 7.5 -> WP7.8.
  • So awesome that Microsoft showcased Windows Phone 10 running on Lumia 630/635 :)
  • What about Nokia Lumia 2520 ?  Will it be updated to windows 10?
  • IS THIS APPLICABLE TO ALL WINDOWS PHONES THAT ARE NON-LUMIA PHONES? i own a Windows 8.1 phone. but it ain't a Lumia Phone. will i also get the free Windows 10 update without having to enroll in the technical developer program?
  • Daniel Bro, pls can u lemme know where the featured image is taken..I love the photo..I want it in full res..Please bro, can u get me the pic..?Pls Guys, if anyone can find the pic in full res, pls do send me the link here: http://www.fb.com/harekrsna7495 Daniel Bro, pls do reply!!
  • It is only will have free Windows 10 (In the mobile) a year as the image says and then have to pay a license to continue using W10 on mobile?  Sorry for my english :P
  • Oh! And where are all those Windows phone 7 guys to complain one more time?
  • Hi good night I'm a big fan of Windows and Windows Phone and I have a question and it is: I've a Samsung Ativ SE the last one from Samsung's and is supposed to be their flagship and I didnt recibe the official Windows Phone 8.1, anyone know something about if Microsoft is working to update this phone or if the forget about it? I have the WP preview for developer and  I have a lot of bugs in my phone when I make or answer a call.. So hope that update come as soon as possible, thanks for your time bye.
  • Hi Ernesto -- I am a Senior, about to purchase my 1st smartphone.  I am leaning toward WP or BB.  The Samsung ATIV SE or Z30 are my top 2 choices.  I would have already bought an ATIV SE if the 8.1 Update had been released for it.  You have not received the 8.1 Update because it has yet to be released.  Verizon points the finger at Samsung, Samsung points the finger at MicroSoft, MicroSoft points the finger at = the principals are playing "the blame game". My concern is this: if a WP8.1 Update was not released for the ATIV SE, why should anyone believe the ATIV SE will be included in the WP10 release?  I know many contend this article stated WP8 units will be included, but I read another article from this website last week(?) stating a phone must have WP8.1 or later in order to Update to WP10. If anyone knows for a fact I am wrong, please do not hesitate to respond with info.  Thanks for a great website and wonderful forums!  I am a Senior w/limited tech knowledge trying to learn as I go...
  • Thank you
  • for lumia 820 ...?