Blackberry Z10's camera, smoked by a Windows Phone

We've already taken a look at how the new Blackberry Z10 (opens in new tab) measures up against the Nokia Lumia 920 and now we'll take a gander at the camera. It's been well proven that the Lumia 920 performs rather well in low light situations. The optically stabilized, back-lit sensor pairs up nicely with the f2.0 lens to light up some of the dimmest situations.

The Blackberry Z10 is fitted with an 8MP, back-lit sensor and a f2.2 lens. While it lacks optical stabilization, on paper, the Z10's camera reads as if it can handle low light situations fairly well. Gizmodo had the opportunity to test things out and it appears the Z10 was not only smoked by a Windows Phone but also an iPhone and Android device as well.

Low Light Test

The test was simple, take a photo of an Assassin's Creed statue in a dimly lit room. No flash was used in the test. Even though the pictures appear to be taken at different angles, the results weren't impressive with the statue barely visible in the Z10's photo. The Lumia 920 performed the best with the iPhone 5 and Samsung Galaxy SIII also out performing the Z10.

We're sure that our colleagues over at Crackberry.com (opens in new tab) will be putting the Z10 through the ropes and we'll be sure to see how well the camera compares to not only the Lumia 920 but other smartphones. But for now, the Z10's camera doesn't appear to be a head turner.

Source: Gizmodo (opens in new tab)

George is the Reviews Editor at Windows Central, concentrating on Windows 10 PC and Mobile apps. He's been a supporter of the platform since the days of Windows CE and uses his current Windows 10 Mobile phone daily to keep up with life and enjoy a game during down time.

215 Comments
  • I guess all it's good for is phone calls because that camera is horrid
  • They pretty much skipped through the camera portion of the presentation it seems. 
  • yeah cuz all a phone can do is calling and takin pix... sureeeeeeeee
  • Here is a wonderful article that might open peoples minds a little bit. http://pocketnow.com/2013/01/31/blackberry-10-vs-windows-phone-8-underdo...
  • These post smack of desperation.  A hail mary for relevance.
    Let Blackberry have it's day, people will choose what they will choose.
    All this "We are better at them at THIS...and oh yeah THIS!!!" reminds me of my playground days.
     
  • Welcome to Windows Phone news. Bloggers are so desperate for "news" that all they post is numbers and charts to make up for the fact that WP8 is not good enough.
  • And the trolls come out.
  • Got ourselves a BB lover haha
  • I personally am secure enough in the platform to think WP8 is "good enough". Which is why all this seems silly to me...
     
  • The world is more than you as is this site. This phone goes on sale tomorrow (UK). Seeing how well the camera stacks up is perfectly good inquirty for phone sites to engage in. What's unfair about it?
  • Any chance of daylight photos being compared?
  • These photos were from Gizmodo but yes, we'll do a proper "shoot out" with the Z10...I guess we'll have to wait though until BlackBerrry "has its day" :P
  • Times like these I wish you guys had a like button. I laughed out loud.
  • Take a look at the CrackBerry review as this is already there. I won't disagree that the lumia 920 has the best cameras out of the phone (and according to Kevin the lumia was only ok). The sg3 camera showed to be the worst out of the phone with the z10 and iphone about even and the lumia a slight advantage.
    Daniel I'm surprised you and your editors don't check CrackBerry. But I guess no all Web Site are 100% objective. So here's the link to crackberry's review:
    http://crackberry.com/blackberry-z10-review
    PS. I didn't see a blog about the wp8 phones having slower Web browsers, the were destroyed in the html5 test, sun spider and every other one and that article is nowhere to be found on gizmodo.
  • LOL...good job 
  • Does it look just OK to you.. It's Night & day (pun) difference. 
  • Sun Spider tests?  The miliseconds browser speed race is about as outdated as the CPU core race.  When it comes to mobile browsers, the only innovation I really care about now is which one can compress my data to make the most use out of my 200MB data plan.  Until AT&T implements DataSense, I'll be using Nokia Express which claims its saving me 85%.
    No wait, I'm sorry, please, have your day.  You BB fans deserve it for holding out so long.  Lets put aside that you just got a phone that can barely stand up to phones from November of last year, and won't even be released in US until March.  Honestly though, your fight isn't with us WP fans, go take it to the Android and iPhone fans.  I would actually like to see both WP and BB succeed, at the expense of the other two platforms.
  • Because data compression is innovative. Blackberry's have never ever had that. lol
  • Didn't the Lumia 920 destroy pretty much enything else in sunspider, but got totally destroyed in browsermark?
    Just shows you how reliable those benchmarks are....
     
    EDIT: found it:
    http://youtu.be/xG2VesIi7Lw
  • Thank You!  This is one of the biggest gripes I have with WP7 (and I guess 8 too).  The browser performance is very underwhelming.  The WP8 html5 test scores are a little bit embarrassing too.  Couldn't they have at least made it better than iOS 5.1 which came out a year earlier.  Full disclosure, I have yet to try IE10 on WP8, but things like this make me question MS's commitment to the platform.
  • This is why I like this site. Other sites' editors, no matter how abusive the comment, would just reply with "thanks for the feedback," etc., etc.. But here, you get politley made fun of, or sometimes told, and I'm paraphrasing here, to "shut the f**k up."
  • don't worry, pictures quality is a software issue that will be fixed soon ;) Waiting to see a average quality browser on my WP device some time now, still nothing :( I also assume I can forget to use Instagram on WP as the developer is not even "Commited". 
  • How is it not good enough?
  • Please stop feeding the trolls! I would just like to remind everyone that its against policy to feed the trolls..... (this has been a public service announcement)
  • I'm sure this is what you'll do when you go buy yourself a new phone: read reviews, do comparisons, test out products at the store, touch, feel, look, smell taste, etc.. Now that is if you're a smart shopper. Do you see what I mean. Its good to do challenges against one another so you'll know the cons and benefits. By the way WP is good. Its mostly not good to the mainstream.
  • Welcome to Windows Phone news. Fans from other platforms are so desperate for "lulz" that all they post are immature comments to make up for the fact that their life is currently incomplete.
  • sweet answer.
  • If it makes you feel better thinking i have a hole in my life and the only way to fill it is to complain about blogs....well, i have a bridge i would like to sell you.
  • Did you even think before you posted. The article (with proof) was showing how WP was better then the new bb. Yet you claim it has to do with how WP isn't good enough.
  • I thought the same about letting them have their day until I read the camera specs... after that I was curious about the performance. At the the end of the day, it's a blackberry camera.
  • How else would your playground friends know if they wanted to hang out with you or one of the other kids without comparing first? Simple elementary.
  • @tavisdunn
    "These post smack of desperation.  A hail mary for relevance. Let Blackberry have it's day, people will choose what they will choose."
    No. Absolutely not. We're not a charity here. It's 100% legitimate to compare a new device that goes on sale tomorrow (UK) to other current phones on the market. What is this "ooo, let's all just hug it out". You put a phone on the market, you expect it to be compared. Why should BlackBerry get special treatment?  
  • This site needs a recomend button! +1 When Windows Phone 8 (any of them phones, especially the 920) were coming out no one said "hey guys lets stop comparing and just let WP8 have its day" so really why should anyone let anyone have their day unless they've earned it (which the Z10 currently isn't proving to me they've earned it).
  • Sure, maybe with the fist post i would accept that and if we were talking about genuine comparison, but we are at the point now where it looks like you guys are grasping at anything that puts you over the edge. Like there is going to be a flood of WP users flocking to BB and this site is the last defense to keeping market share. Obviously this site is geared towards one viewpoint, i totally get that, but understand that this total one sided viewpoint invalidates your opinion. Makes it hard to really value any sort editorial, knowing that wp=winning!
  • This wasn't even our story, it was Gizmodo's. On top of that it's the #2 trending story for our site traffic right now...people are interested and are reading it. We respond to what people want. A few complaints in comments can't sway that, sorry.
  • I see, i guess fair and balanced viewpoints is trumped by pageviews. Good to know going forward. Works for Fox news so why not wpcentral.
     
  • Fair and balanced viewpoints? They - Gizmodo by the way - took a picture of the same object with different devices under the same conditions and reported on it. The camera couldn't compete with the other three phones tested. Yes, be prepared for comparisons. Lots of them. Crackberry says WP stinks. Phil at Android Central scoffs at anything that isn't running Jelly Bean. Why? They can. Don't like it go elsewhere.
  • >Yes, be prepared for comparisons. Lots of them. Crackberry says WP stinks.
     
    yea, I read and watched the large full review of the Z10, just to see what is new. The reviewer was looking for ANY reason to pick on the Luima 920...or any other phone for that matter. When I read a review, I like a fair review and I felt that aspect of it was not fair in any way.
     
    I guess here we just care about WP, so in our minds we think the same thing..
  • Nobody is forcing you to read chap. If you want negative 100% bias crap then you have "The Verge", "Gsmarena" and at times "Engadget. I don't if you care about the camera or not but there are plenty people that do so this makes the point valid.
  • How is this unfair its simple facts with proof on the individual cameras. What the hell does fox news got to do with an article on bb camera?
  • Your argument is putting the cart before the horse.  WPC wouldn't have known about the popularity of the article without positing it in the first place.
    Similarly, the growth of social photo sharing combined with the decline of the point and shoot standalone camera market both point to the increased importance the average person has put on the quality of their smartphone camera.  It has nothing to do with Fox News style "fair and balanced", because WPC is simply reporting the test results, and also, unlike Fox News, they're not lying.
  • Actually if you want relevance on the source...it was gizmodo.  Which btw I read about 5 hours ago.  you should go take your comment elsewhere if you want to talk smack @tavisdunn.  Oh Daniel I wasn't talking to you btw.  These ignorant people on here...sigh...  
  • Oh please. I'm not enough of a fanboy despite my investment of WP8/WinRT hardware and genuine love for the platform because i'm questioning motive and objectivity? If that is talking smack, then i will keep talking smack sir!
     
     
  • Dafaq is your problem man?? You don't like something doesn't mean others don't!! Plus I think its essential that new releases be compared to older/best of lot phones as people have limited buyin powers and many would buy a BB device tomorrow!
  • Tavisdunn, MANY people on the site are legitimately interested in comparisons... these are the two minor players and it is only natural to want to know how they stack up against each other. Also, you're being an ass.
  • There seems to be the misconception that I am against comparing devices. Comparisons are great. Cherry-picking posts from other sites that only highlight your chosen phone isn't really a truthful comparison is it? Look, I get we all like to think that the hardware choices we made are the right ones, but its far more constructive to look honestly at the competition at a whole to see what we can do better. Patting ourselves on the back gets us nowhere. I can't have been the only one rolling my eyes with every "this is why we are better than blackberry!" post today!?!?
  • Its the main camera... Its a moan feature of moder smartphones... A comparison in typical low light conditions across 4 different phones!... What's the are you smoking? Cherry picking?...
    .please.....
  • It's a shame that this is how Daniel (and the WP fans) respond here. I got grilled for making a similar statement some months back.  It was made clear to me that my opinion doesn't matter, and claims were made that by expressing my opinion I somehow implied the world revolved around me (as you were accused of here as well). As such, I mostly stopped posting. Hell, I mostly stopped browsing the site.Now I just check the twitter feed first and if there is some interesting information, I respond accordingly. The fact of the matter is if you have anything less than neutral to say about the platform or a device, the writers (Daniel specifically) tend to jump down your throat. I won't be responding to any of his stuff anymore even though I think a lot of what he says has merit and is worth reading (probably shouldn't be inflating the ego right now). Responses are often too reactionist for my taste.
     
    Sadly many tech blogs do this. I am an avid poster on various forums as I use iOS, Android, and more recently WP8, on a daily basis. If the blog has any stake in a certain platform, these things are going to happen. 
     
    EDIT: To those who don't understand (or choose not to) what Tavisdunn is saying, it is quite simple. It is not that this comparison is unfair, per se. It is that the camera is a clear loser in preliminary results, so let's just go and parade it on the site here. That is where the cherry picking comes in; i haven't even seen comparison of other features, but now that we have a feature that WP SMOKES, you best believe it's making headlines. Let's headline everywhere WP8 shines, and sweep the rest of the stuff under the rug. As mentioned, this happens everywhere, they are feeding their platform's fans the news they want to read, about how the platofrm they choose to support outshines the rest and almost never the opposite. And I commend Tavis for speaking up, knowing full well, from first hand experienced, that you all would be jumping down his throat calling hi a troll (the most overused word on the internet today).
     
    Definition of troll: a person who disagrees with my fundamental beliefs about anything and everything. LOL
  • Cherry picking? The title clearly stated that the BB's camera is smoked by WP and I would pressume it is just a comparison of camera ONLY, nothing else. If you want a comparison, there is another news about it on the front page, and if the readers are interested in the full comparison once the handset is available in the market, I am pretty sure Daniel will do it.
    If you have follow the WPCentral news you would have also noticed the posts here are not all just full of rainbows and praise, there are also posts that touch on the negatives.
  • Well said man, i totally agree.
    I love WP, i wouldn't have bought a lumia 900 last year, or upgrade to a HTC 8x a few weeks ago if i didn't...but there are serious problems with it. Patting out selves on the back cause we "win" one and not recognizing what our competitions does better than us, helps no one!
  • tavisdunn, believe me, I am not blind to the MANY aspects of WP that are shall we say... much less than steller.  Most of them at this point are directly Microsoft's fault.  I don't believe the site is either.  Sure, they will attempt to put a bit of a positive spin on it, as the site is aimed at fans of the platform.... just as Crackberry is aimed at Blackberry fans and will tend to put a positive spin on Blackberry stories.  But this site has posted many articles critical of Windows Phone and presenting perfectly valid comparisons of devices.
     
    As far as you "not being against comparisons", I don't know what other conclusion to draw from your silly complaints about an article that is posting a comparison of the camera specifically.  This did not claim that WP is much better than BB10... it simply showed one aspect of the two and compared them. 
     
    As Daniel has pointed out:
    (1) This comparison did not even source from WP.  Another site was able to get information on the camera performance, and that information is of interest to the site's readership. 
    (2) They have posted many, many articles today, and only four or so have been about BB10. 
     
    If this information is not of interest to you, you should move on rather than complain that the site's editorial content was not formed with your exact world view and preferences in mind.  This site serves a large readership, and it would not be possible for them to run every article by you to see if you would personally approve of it.  I'm quite certain the vast majority of us believe this article to be germaine information to the site's readership, and one of interest.  If you do not, that's fine.  Feel free to skip it.
     
    But to keep whining about a complaint that makes no sense to the rest of us implies that you feel your (minority) opinion on this matter should dictate the articles posted.  That is simply untrue.
     
    In short, you should probably "get over it".  The internet is full of much information, and not evey bit of it will be to your exact preference.  This is probably somehting you should get used to.  But this article is completely valid for the site to post.
  • Find somewhere else to troll, I'm tired of reading your uneducated comments. Why in hell wouldn't someone want to see side by side comparison on a feature offered by a new device? Your complaining about "fair and balanced" while the fact remains, the BB10 X10 camera is worse than any comparable phone in its class. This is important for some people who like to catalogue their lives and keep memories as best they can. Challenging a device in harsh conditions that we frequently confront while trying to do so is not an unreasonable request. Maybe you don't need to take photos in the board room, but not everyone looking to buy a BB10 device lives and dies in a meeting. I respect the reporting and the "fair and balanced" reporting of a device that took nearly 2 years to develop. Prolly why RIMM's stock started to crash halfway through the launch of their new product. It's not up to par with what was expected of them after so many delays... And I have no idea why DR (Daniel Rubino) has to justify this article to you so much... Again, go troll somewhere else, your comments are pithy and impossible to digest intellectually.
  • +100000000000000
  • Bb are just hoping for relevance cause their are in serious travel as a company
    .... So expect BB fans to troll or come with unreasonable expectations of "lets hug it out". That the way the phone market is now... BB has just been out for so long they forgot about it.
  • And this Is the reason why BB has, still, a bigger marketshare than WP....
  • They do have a bigger marketshare, but only if you count the BB7 etc, in fact its harsh to call the Asha phones non-smartphones while the blackberries are.
    What's going to be interesting here is seeing how BB develop, can they really sell a lot of high end handsets?  This Z10 is being sold at a premium price so goes up against the likes of the Lumia 920, for the non-fanboys does its hardware/software justify paying out £400+ (I see its more on contract then a Lumia 920).
    Or if that fails, can they really sell a lot of low end handsets and still remain in business?
  • Funny you should mention that, since BBOS7 is essentially the same to BB10 as WM is to WP. But let that not deceive you, there's bound to be a clear marker! (RiM suggests its HMTL5. Right.)
  • +1
  • Comparing devices isn't desperate. If "people will choose what they will choose", why do you even go on ANY site about mobile tech? Comparing is good for the whole industry, it makes competing products better. Further, you don't pay to read this site, so you really have no reason to complain on something that is free.
  • If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product. Look it up.
  • I agree. high five
  • @tavisdunn i get what your saying.. we cant pick and choose what makes our phones look good. But realistically speaking at the end of the day camera comparisons are perfectly all right, and even though to you its picking and choosing what makes it look good, does it make wp fail? if you truly invested money into the wp8/rt/8 platform then you know its only plausible to want to know what the competition offers because for blackberry we are potential converts and thats it. in this particular instance blackberry failed. they failed to wow their investors they failed to impress customers and the only viable place where they may have a shot is in enterprise as its always been. based on every blackberry ive ever owned the cameras were terrible and looking at this one it seems that its no different. im a tech lover and thats it if blackberry had created something i thought was worth switching for id switch but as it stands the more i see i am less and less impressed. and i know my personal opinion doesnt matter to you but what your doing coming on here and attacking wpcentral for reposting this or gizmodo for being "unfair in their comparison" just makes you seem mad. and i dont mean that with any disrespect. :D
  • Fair enough. I'm more annoyed than angry though. This site can be more than just a mouthpiece for windows phone. It can be a place for real discussion about the platform, so it's disappointing to see it taking the easy way out and not really hold itself to a higher regard. Granted there are other platform agnostic sites that do a good job if that so.... But I respect your opinion and you do make some valid points.
  • lol let blackberry have its day !! why its smartphone market you release a product you must expect it to be compared with other phones
  • How is it desperation? It's a fair look at how BlackBerry's latest hardware compares against Windows Phone. This isn't a "oh we're better than everyone!" mentality. Nor are we clutching at straws to make us giggle quietly in dark corners. We're reporting on facts that separate both platforms. Check out our Z10 vs Lumia 920 article. That runs through the specifications and deals the blow that the Z10 just doesn't bring any innovation to the table. It just doesn't. Looking at it from an iOS, Android or Windows Phone perspective. There's just nothing to get excited about. We're primarily a Windows Phone news website, but BlackBerry is billed as our main competitor (regarding marketshare and the "3rd position"). I believe it deserves some coverage while we look at just how much of a threat BlackBerry is. Plus, Windows Phone owners are extremely loyal and our readership enjoys reading our content on the topic. Now, that's not to say we're writing for pageviews directly, we're writing for what readers want, which means we're publishing content that gets read. If we fire up a BlackBerry article and it jumps up in activity, then of course we'd look at publishing a few more to further expand the coverage. If they weren't doing so well, then we wouldn't. We're not going to force feed you anything and you can always skip reading certain pieces. I can take all the constructive criticism in the world, but what you're suggesting (along with a select minority) is far from the truth.
  • I wish there was a like button. Comparisons are going to happen, they did for every wp8 device that came out and not once did we hear wait don't compare this to that its not fair its not balanced. This is just one comparison of many, I'm sure to come. Each device will win and lose. But it must be done so people can choose what's best for them, this article is very important to those who want an excellent camera on a phone. To say its nitpicking is just wrong as again this is a huge topic for every device because again lots of people want good cameras.
  • 1+
  • I'm suggesting wpcentral is a slanted one-side view on it's own platform. Unable to objectively look at the products it covers.
    Hardly far from the truth.
    Dude, you guys even used the "smoked" moniker. A term direct from Microsoft marketing. Maybe try harder? I know this isnt the nytimes, so it's held to a different (much much lower) standard....but come on.