'Features may vary' on 512MB RAM phones with Windows 10

And what about Lumia 920, 925???? Will they get windows 10? And don't forget they are running 1gb of Ram

You must be happy that you'll have the update, when the most of the low-end android devices, dont. I didn't expected for the 512mb ram devices to have the full win10 experience, but I think that they shouldnt have made 512mb ram devices If they known that this ram phones will have a problem. BUT this phones were made by nokia. The first phone with the microsoft logo was the lumia 535 (which I own) and it has got 1gb.

For an additional $10; 1GB RAM. 520 Lumia with 1 GB would get all features. Microsoft needs to step and plan out there hardware.

Feb 11 and still no preview available for phones and this is why Microsoft is lagging behind mobile os.

They said early feb, and they not even reveling the dates .. Too bad 

I think they won't give us an update 520

I'm very excited about the upcoming Windows 10 update. I hope the 512MB capacity doesn't cripple the update experience too much.

Definitely expected. I didn't even expect 8.1 to get released for my 520 last year.

My L521 seems even faster now...

Banned from The Verge for calling their clickbait title, well, clickbait. 

If the Windows 10 seems faster on a 520, it's all right to me...and Office is updated of course.

Bagaimana dengan lumia 620,apakah support Windows 10.

As long as am gonna get the update

some guys here need a hard reset....on teir brain....

Let me put it simple for some whiners out there. Windows 10 will be available from Microsoft to all WP8.1 devices(didnt you think before opening your mouth that ms knows that over half of their marketshare has 512mb ram devices? so use your bran, ofc it will be available for 512ram). But as for every phone update, w10 will still have to pass oem + carrier test and such (so dont blame ms if your phone wont get w10 even htc used the "hardware limitation" excuse on their 8s). So this is the first point: available for all, depends on oems and carriers.

Point no2.: lets look at denim. everyone will get it, only 3 devices will get new features. So when we talk about win 10 and limited features, my believing is that, limit features will be the os with all software you can get keepeing the same hardware. ofc you will still have all that fancy new ui, all those new quick togles, all that new settings app and such, but if win 10 will support 64 (just an example) dont you think that if you expect your L520 to get 64bit version of W10 you are a litle bit.....RETARDED?!?!?!?! those FUCKING features you wont get but you still whine about, 80% of them are even needed or capable on your phone. only things that you may miss from a low end old device are things also limited by hardware (maybe bluetooth 4.1, but this may be a bad example as i think you can get 4.1 on a bluetoot 4.0 capable device), but are not missed because of a poor dedication of microsoft for low end devices.

SO:

1. use your brain

2. stop whine, be patient

3. ms is not that stupid to loose thei marketshare again, from 8.1 to 10, not now. 7.8->8 was a totally different story.

I guess i'm on the safe side.
525 wasn't a bad choice after all ;)

Hey guys check this
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=317dd8c0-047e-4b3d-a591-4992e2f1564b

All devices running Windows Phone 8 supported devices should get the the Windows 10 update. However it may be harder for some, but it is do able. Windows Phone 8.1 devices will have to download Phone insider, and login to that to get 10 when the Preview is released.

Those users on Windows Phone 8 will have to install Preview for Developers, Update, install 8.1, basically it will be quicker, easier if anyone wants 10 they should be using the latest build for that phone Windows Phone 8.1 Update, users who are not sure should check the about option in their settings to see which they've got on their Windows 8 Phone. It makes sense really, if you want the latest features keep your device up to date.

If you're going to install Windows 10 when it's available for Phones, I recommend you backup first and reset your Phone to delete apps, History cookies junk you dont need that could slow down Windows 10 at anytime it's like with any upgrade, before and after Clean your Device out and restart it it will run alot smoother. If you do install Windows 10 when your Phones ready just update it if it needs updating Remove some third party apps if you dont want them, don't use your Phone yet just Upgrade it to 10, then install your apps afterwards it is just a quicker process, you don't want to put junk back onto your Phone before you Upgrade, that could slow down the Process, or even make your Phone Crash.

Those remaining still using WP7 Windows 7 phones. You can expect no more updates or support from Microsoft after September 2014 http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/windows-phone-7-8-to-receive-support-un...   i'm really sorry about this, but Microsoft assume that if they forever support one device, you may not buy the next one, they stop support, so they can focus on newer projects and improve their Products. However You should have receive 7.8 for all wp7 Devices which delivered some features but don't expect anymore than that if you really want to benefit from all thse features from Windows 8 and 10, you don't have to buy an expensive Phone you just need a phone with at least Windows Phone 8 on it, obviously th e more up to date the better but Windows phone 8 Phones we can all assume will be cheaper.

Glad to be of help Matt  

Lumia supporters will support WP forever and ever, but may vary eventually.

There you go. If you cater for the low end user then you complicate the OS and give the low end user a bad impression of the OS.

Results may vary...

What are the features we can expect to be missed out in 512mb devices? Guesses?

Well they could have gone all Intel so some phones like 520 being stuck with WP 8.8 is not that bad.

Hope more device today!

512 MB, hmm...
Luckily I have a 525.

So good people you are really hoping W10 is gonna miraculously change your Lumia 520 to a Lumia icon, you better think again. Being a budget phone means its limited somewhere somehow!

Win 10 update available on Lumia 520?

good to know that windows 10 is so flexible to change it's feature for low end phone... great move Microsoft!

@ end , all gonna supports WP10 .
Soon or later .

So does this means the Lumia 530 will get the preview?

This is a welcome development

Haha I'm lucky... Lumia 525 rocks :D

That should make my friend happy because he bought my 625 last year. He's very happy with the phone by the way. And as for me, my 925 is anxiously waiting to be in the 1st batch to get W10. My 1520 can wait until the 2nd batch.

Can you give me some features that may vary with 512MB devices as examples......

Surprise

Why does anyone say that the 520 is the lowest range smartphone. The 620 is the same in hardware

Microsoft should have a difference between low end devices and high end ones so this has to be implemented

'Features may wary' sounds ominous. This could mean that low end devices might be getting this as their last update. No W10.1 or something later.

All wp8.1 devices get 10. After that is oems' and carriers' who need to do their job. Next, "feature may vary" thing....so much whiners.....think of it as a difference like denim for 930 1520 830 and the rest. It doesn mean that low end 512r devices wont have a "full" w10 but that they would only get features that your phone support. USE UR FCKING BRAIN! Haters and whiners everywhere..

USB OTG will be the make or break deal for me. Any news if Windows 10 for phones will get usb otg?? I was holding on to buy a Lumia 730 to replace my L520, but that Moto G is looking so good right now. And you can't call it 'Lagdroid' anymore with the new Android L.

Please tell

Is Windows 10 update for Nokia Lumia 520 today

May be the updates after 1st preview for 512mb ram will give all the features that 1gb rab users will have. Sooner or later may be 512 mb ram upgraded to all the features. Trust Microsoft!

Monday 1/9, 9:00 PST

Will they release win10 preview for all the phones including 512mb WP together or 512mb WP's will get update afterwards?

they should release the video they told they would do it. i know features will vary but want them to show the video they promised us.

I really like my 635, so this is comforting news.

I think some features may not support 512mb phones but 70-80% features may support.

Unfortunately I have 512mb 620..

Look forward

As expected...

What defines the OS being windows 10 mobile? if a 512MB device gets 10 of the 500 changes, should it still be considered Windows 10 mobile

This is all great, but can we really imagine a world where AT&T will bother with upgrading the Lumia 520? Or T-Mobile the 521? It would be great, but I'm very doubtful...

Time to sell all 512mb devices and go for either something like one plus one or Motorola devices which are bang on prices

The same is likely true of RT devices. They will not get Windows 10 from the sound of it, but it would be easy to add access to the universal store, touch Office, new calendars, etc.

@Chethan Kumar I have got that problem with Luxury City Parking

Guys please help me . I have downloaded a game called traffic asphalt racing . And after downloading completed my mobile got rebooted automatically after that I cant see that game on my mobile but in store it says its installed

The only issue is with the recent slew of low end phones put out by ms. Haven't some of their most recent devices had 512mb of ram. You would have thought they would have made all their recent low end devices with 1gig in order not to alienate those who just bought brand new phones.

i have 520, the cheapest phone among my friends. All of them have htc sony Samsung mid ranges. Bt none of them are able to get the kitkat yet. They are shocked to see how my little 520 getting the updates. :) :) :)
520, one of the best low end devices ever... 520 users do you agree ?? :)

The Features-May-Vary part sounds about right.
So much drama ^^

What, you mean I won't be getting 4K video editing on my Lumia 520? Shocked.

Long live Lumia 525!

Please to know my 520 will also get it,, hoping minimum new mf office will also support

Latr? Typo detected

All new low end phones will have 1gb ram im sure.

Thank you for information??!!

So disgusting....

I mean, that was obvious already. Wasn't it?

As expected. Don't think much can be done on a 512MB phone running Windows 10. Be prepared to be seeing a "crippled" version of Windows 10 on these devices. A not too old 1GB ram 1020 is already receiving a crippled version of Denim. Come Windows 10 and the usability of 1020 on Windows 10 will drop even further.

I after Denim people didn't expect WP10 to leave all the bigger features to high end devices, they seriously need to rethink their logical process.

I'm almost ready to bet that 512MB devices will barelly get anything from WP10 apart from probably the backgrounds and new tile sizes.

This isn't any sort of surprise.  Case in point:  new hardware comes on new phones.  New OS exploits those new features.  Old phones simply don't have the hardware.  i.e. gyroscope, GPS, BT(4.0), biometrics, IR transmitter, etc... As long as the OS that is made available to low end phones have their expectations properly set... this shouldn't be a problem.  Of course, what will happen is that something is misunderstood and people will complain. This will happen whether or not OS makes it past carriers for delivery to customers.  I'm planning on buying a new phone.  I'll just pass on my lil trusty 830 like I did my 1520, 930, HD7S, TitanII, Titan, and Focus.  Windows Phone 8.1 is great and functional on hardware released for it.  No need to risk a proper Windows 10 experience if you have a lower end phone.

Target market are occupied with 512MB RAM, also if you want to gain the momentum, they have to consider this strategically. Lets see.

    How many times must Microsoft deliver the same message before people start believing it?  And of course, features will vary. The software can only do so much if it's limited by the hardware.

Has anyone to say anything about HTC 8X? It has 1GB RAM.

Yes, features already vary on low memory devices...

My dog isn't feeling well

This was totally expected

So only 1520 and 930 at first? If this is going to be like their update roll out the last couple months most of us might be better off buying a new phone at the end of the year lol. Hope it isn't as I just described, looking forward to prolonging my 920.

Features will vary similar to how only the 930 & 1520 have Hey Cortana and how the 930 doesn't have Glance. Nothing too crazy for the low ends I expect

Well at least its coming to my 520.. I am happy about that :)

I saved and bought my 1520 outright, I figured it was future proof for at least 2-3 of updates and space, knew from the beginning 512mb phones would have update issues later in life we forget most of these phones will have been out 2 years once windows 10 does actually drop

From what I've been seeing, Microsoft is on a roll. From 8.0, 8.1, Denim, and now W10 .. they are blazing a trail so fast that the phone carriers can't even keep up with. But luckily for Windows phone users, we don't HAVE TO rely on slow carrier updates.. we can go straight to the mothership - MS. I myself applaud MS for supporting their 512MB devices with a Windows10 variant. Confident they'll pack in as many W10 features as possible.

I'm just hoping my 1520 is one of the first to get the update, question will windows 10 phone have hey Cortana like the preview for computer does, or do I stil have to wait for denim???

I'm thinking the "subset of phones" will likely be Lumia devices only for the first wave, plus *maybe* flagships from other OEMs like HTC and Samsung. I wouldn't expect the 8S to be included any time soon, for example. And as far as the internal testing goes, they likely want to make sure that they aren't going to be rendering devices non-functional at the core levels. (phone & internet connectivity, etc) I'm really torn, to be perfectly honest. I was going to put Win 10 on my Ativ S, but it's my only access to portable Netflix at the moment, thanks to the bug in v4.0 that affects Denim devices like my 830.

First off Microsoft said way back that all LUMIA phones will get W10.... Okay? Got it? As to other OEM's that is up to them. So I you have a HTC BluWin Samsung or whatever... Well it might take a little long. Microsoft does not own those devices. As to RT Surfaces, if you have been living under a rock then you might have missed that yes, they will eventually get W10.

Limited features for 512 and people crying out loud without understanding what limited could mean. For example, it could mean less no of background tasks being restricted to few compared to 1GB+ ram phones, or no fast resume for CERTAIN new apps, etc. I guess it's better waiting than whining

I don't care anything I just want w10 by October 2015 for my NL1520 (AT&T)

And that's why we want a flagship phone...

So much bla bla bla over a Technical Preview (which is not even beta, or finished). "I'm gonna switch to Android if my two years old phone doesn't get an unfinished version of W10"

Please go ...

When will they fix the bug of my 535, it's difficult to use him like that??!?

I talked to a person who is working on Windows 10 he told me that they are using Lumia 630,635 for testing Windows phone 10.

Features may vary... Yep. Features vary for 512MB devices on 8.1, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the same with 10.

For example, no equalizer for 512MB devices on 8.1.

Does this mean 525 will have different features than 520?

There are already features unavailable for low-end devices with WP8.1 . I have a L520 and I feels fine with that. You can't expect the same level of quality if you buy a 40$ phone.

Here you go Google and Samsung! That's what I call ambitious on updates!

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Everyone they have working in their marketing dept should be fired. People may be pissed off now but if the preview comes out and they can't get it, heads will explode.

I hope it brings back the bank of America app.

I really want to know which devices are going to be part of the 'first wave' that they're talking about.  I don't have any inside information, but I really have a feeling that it'll be only more recent devices (Snapdragon 800 maybe even, though the 600 and 400 might be included too as they're all from the same generation) that get the initial preview, and those of us hanging on to older Snapdragon S4 based hardware such as the 1020 and 920 will have to wait.  It just seems far more likely that they'd target the more modern SoC first.

As the 920 and 1020 are the only two devices I have available, I really want to be wrong, but just a hunch.

I swear if they don't support the 925 right away....

My body and htc one are ready.

Us 512 owners would rather the "high enders" get all the bugs reported first anyhow. Besides their screams in anguish of how their daily drivers have become non-functional make for good read.

That's not surprising.
Like iOS you might get the latest software update but you won't get all the features. Especially considering the horrific 512 megabytes of RAM. But that's okay cause Microsoft knows best.

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Rezound. Ugh.

Good to hear. To be honest, I may not go for the preview, need my 920 as a daily driver. Don't wanna throw money at another device just to try it.

I assume a summer release is still planned? Gonna be at least one tempting device released for the launch though, can't wait.

Things like newer Word being used in email will be harder. And probably inline notification responses. Basics like updated settings are easy. Sure they are profiling memory usage to create a good solution. Expect 635 before 520 as the newer quad core CPU will help compensate for less memory.

Where is Daniel these days?

I hope my 928 can update it isn't old!! Its only a year and a half old!! It has a 1GB Ram! Don't let me down Microsoft!

All I want is the new UI.

And get what they will get the official update first.
And if they really do,I'll get me a OnePlus One.

My 930 is ready. Make it sing MS.

People will get worked up over "features may vary" but they already do with 8.x phones. Lower spec phones get less. That's how it works.

Soooo.....
Is it still on track for the 9 am release rumor????

RIP 512 MB

Just tell us which phones of 512mb ram will get this month technical preview......