As Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 keep reaching new heights with sky-high player counts, it highlights a new problem for Xbox

Fallout 4

Fallout 4, Bethesda's last singleplayer RPG, was as shallow as a puddle.

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What you need to know

  • Fallout mania continues into a new week, with Fallout 4 continuing to rise in concurrent player count on Steam. 
  • Over the weekend, Fallout 76 hit a new all-time high concurrent player count, over five years after it first launched. 
  • The trouble is that there's nothing new on the horizon for a long time, so could Xbox have been a little more forward-thinking and got Bethesda (or maybe Obsidian?) working on something?

As I write this, it's been a mere 11 days since the Fallout Prime Video show debuted its first season, and it has been a whirlwind since. Many of us have now finished its eight episode run and been captivated by it, and the knock on effects are significant. 

Amazon has already confirmed Fallout Season 2, along with declaring it as one of the platform's top three watched shows of all time. The games, too, are experiencing a serious resurgence, with all titles on all platforms seeing crazy numbers given the age of the games. 

This hasn't slowed down into another weekend, either. Fallout 4 continues to rise in its concurrent player count on Steam, topping out at over 160,000, and coming only behind Helldivers 2 at that moment for a premium (aka, paid) game on the platform. Let's also not forget that last week, Fallout 4 was the best-selling game in Europe.  

Not only that, but Fallout 76 has, this past weekend, hit a new all-time high concurrent player count on Steam, with the always-online title topping 73,000 players. These would be numbers a brand-new title could be proud of, let alone ones released several years ago. Fallout 4 is almost nine-years-old.

This is great news for Xbox and Bethesda, it's great news for the wider Fallout franchise as a whole, including the show. The trouble is that if you look at the bigger picture, this all highlights one major, glaring issue that Xbox now has. 

Anything new from Fallout is a LONG way off

It's almost certain that at LEAST season two of Fallout will hit Prime Video before a new Fallout game is here.  (Image credit: Prime Video)

Fallout now has an entirely new legion of fans. Of those skyrocketing numbers, it's of no doubt there is a substantial number of folks going back into the games. I class myself in that, as I've played most of the Fallout games for a little while, but never really stuck with them. The show has ignited a fire inside, and I'm going back in. 

But, while the long-term fans might be happy, the fact there's nothing new on the horizon either for those people, or, more importantly, the new fans, well that's a problem. The Fallout franchise has a ton of content to play through, but let's be real, a new Fallout game is a long, long ways off. Bethesda has already said that it won't be working on it until after Elder Scrolls 6 ships, which means we'll be seeing season two of the show, maybe even three and four (if they get commissioned) before we'll see a new mainline Fallout game. 

I think Xbox, now the Overseer of the Fallout universe, and indeed Bethesda, has been a little short-sighted here. It never took a genius to see that the show would have some kind of impact on the games, after all, we've already seen it happen with The Last of Us. Fallout is bigger than that, it has a wider fan base and a much bigger world to explore. The show first became a reality back in 2020, four years ago. 

In those years since, how did nobody think about commissioning a new game, a remake, or another New Vegas style spinoff? Fallout 76 being a live service game at least gives it some legs to keep going, but even in the world of making video games, four years is a long time. Could the original games have been remade in that time? Could Fallout 3 and New Vegas have been given a modern overhaul? Surely something could have been planned? 

For now, all we have to look forward to is a new season of Fallout, possibly in a couple of years if we're lucky.  (Image credit: Prime Video)

Of course, I'm just a gamer and reinvigorated Fallout fan thinking out loud here, not the head of a massive company like Microsoft. I just can't quite understand why there wasn't a little more forward-thinking here to capitalize on the inevitable success of the show for fans, both new and old. 

As it stands, the next thing we have to look forward to is indeed another season of the show, and hopefully further seasons after that. As it already looks like New Vegas will be a part of its return to the screen, it's hard to see anything other than another massive success. 

On the gaming side, though, the horizon is much like the Wasteland. Unpredictable, and at times, empty. We do, of course, have the Fallout 4 current-gen upgrade happening this week on April 25 on PC and console, so that'll be something to enjoy. There's also the massive Fallout: London mod in the works, too. Mods are fun and add plenty of replayability into the franchise, but really, it shouldn't be all on the community to keep folks hanging around. Definitely not when it comes to newer, perhaps more casual players. 

A big part of me hopes something has been secretly worked on and kept quiet until show season later this year, but I'm also not holding my breath. I really think Xbox and Bethesda have missed a trick here. 

Richard Devine
Managing Editor - Tech, Reviews

Richard Devine is a Managing Editor at Windows Central with over a decade of experience. A former Project Manager and long-term tech addict, he joined Mobile Nations in 2011 and has been found on Android Central and iMore as well as Windows Central. Currently, you'll find him steering the site's coverage of all manner of PC hardware and reviews. Find him on Mastodon at mstdn.social/@richdevine

  • MyNameIsKoren
    I think the problem could be worse. Fortunately for Fallout, their games are pretty big and popular, and the tv series is bringing people back to their games. And they seem ready for it as Fallout 4 is getting a quality upgrade, reportedly. While I agree the timing of release for the show would have been greater with a new game to the series coming out as well, I think the way they're doing it lets the new audience get into the previous games to catch up on things. It sounds like the show is quite good (watching tonight) so hopefully they'll have a few more seasons. And maybe they can end it with Fallout 5 releasing.

    Anyway if any of the tv shows have a bit of a problem, may I remind that the Twisted Metal series came out at a time when there's 0 of the namesake's games on PS5, and all the console got was Destruction Allstars instead. In fact at least one report says a Twisted Metal game in development was cancelled due to layoffs. So that show's really missing its marketing potential as well.
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  • rmark66
    Bethesda in particular has a problem of taking too long for the next game to come out and on top of that, they single thread games between 3 franchises (Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and now Starfield). Each game seams to take longer than the prior one to create. Not a lot more Bethesda games will be released in my lifetime and that is sad. They need to get things moving like ABK does with COD. Bethesda, ABK, and Xbox Studios need only one really good game engine for FPS. Microsoft needs to develop that outside of the game studios and then future games can make use of it. The game engine should site on top of Directx and allow games to use specific released versions of the game engine. Once there is a version of the game engine available, they can start coding new games to use it. No more holding back game development like Starfield so one studio has an updated game engine!
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  • 1078mac
    Why is it always a problem when it comes to reporting a positive for Microsoft and Bethesda? The series has helped people discover fallout games and they are great. F4 will get a next gen update Thursday making it a great time to play and get into the universe! There is no negative to anyone other than people that have played it all already, but that's an opportunity to play it again. So tired of the oh but there's a problem narrative. I appreciate Bethesda not rushing things. Fallout 5 needs to be great and the show only highlights that more since it is pretty great too
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  • Grimshanders
    1078mac said:
    Why is it always a problem when it comes to reporting a positive for Microsoft and Bethesda? The series has helped people discover fallout games and they are great. F4 will get a next gen update Thursday making it a great time to play and get into the universe! There is no negative to anyone other than people that have played it all already, but that's an opportunity to play it again. So tired of the oh but there's a problem narrative. I appreciate Bethesda not rushing things. Fallout 5 needs to be great and the show only highlights that more since it is pretty great too
    Completely agree. It's irritating when these "journalists" decide there's a problem. Then spout off BS to cause controversy. They have nothing better to do than gripe.
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  • Felix999
    There types of articles are what is wrong with the gaming industry too.

    These articles set up expectations for the consumer that there should be a game release with a TV show. But why? To make more money? What happened to making games for the love of entertaining your fans?

    What do gamers really want? Fun, quality games, that don't come out half baked on release day which takes 3+ years to do right (see Cyberpunk 2077)...

    I think it's perfectly fine for Bethesda to release a great show without a game. Financially, it's STILL working out for them, in fact, it's working out financially WAAAY better than the articles purposed scheme.

    They made a solid business decision and they're reapering rewards without huge software development costs.

    The writer is either AI or an idiot.
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  • bazanime
    Felix999 said:
    There types of articles are what is wrong with the gaming industry too.

    These articles set up expectations for the consumer that there should be a game release with a TV show. But why? To make more money? What happened to making games for the love of entertaining your fans?

    What do gamers really want? Fun, quality games, that don't come out half baked on release day which takes 3+ years to do right (see Cyberpunk 2077)...

    I think it's perfectly fine for Bethesda to release a great show without a game. Financially, it's STILL working out for them, in fact, it's working out financially WAAAY better than the articles purposed scheme.

    They made a solid business decision and they're reapering rewards without huge software development costs.

    The writer is either AI or an idiot.
    It gets clicks and engagement which unfortunately works everytime.
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