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Lenovo's folding tablet hybrid strongly resembles Microsoft's 'Surface Phone' patents

The Surface Phone is the expected next step for Microsoft's Surface line, and while we have only the tiniest morsels of information thus far, it can be fun to speculate.

We expect any new "Surface" mobile device to be powered by CShell, which, in basic terms, will allow Microsoft to adapt Windows 10 itself to smaller displays. There is also a slew of foldable phone patents, which fits Surface's modus operandi of category creation. Indeed, for Microsoft to re-enter the phone market after the battering it took over the failure of both Windows Phone and Windows 10 Mobile, Redmond would really, really need to do something special.

Perhaps a folding "phone that can replace your tablet" might be just what the doctor ordered, but Lenovo's Android-powered convertible might just beat them to the punch.

Lenovo's "Folio" concept phone has made the rounds before, but this new video posted recently on reddit gives us a better look at how it converts easily from a tablet, into a phone-like device, complete with photography and an adaptable user interface. Presumably, the "Surface Phone" will follow similar design principles, if Microsoft's folding phone patents are any indication.

From Microsoft's folding device patents.

From Microsoft's folding device patents.

Microsoft has retrenched hard in the smartphone war, conceding the market to Android and iOS. Most of Microsoft's public mobile efforts now focus on bringing their services to those aforementioned established mobile platforms, with an emphasis on Android owing to its customizable nature.

If Microsoft does eventually re-enter the phone race, the company will likely try and position any prospective Surface Phone as a pocket PC with cellular, rather than attempt to take Android and iOS head-on. Microsoft has done an incredible job of alienating UWP developers who were invested in Windows 10 Mobile, so it'll be interesting to see how Redmond hopes to muster confidence in their commitment once again, if indeed it is their intention to bring another mobile device to market.

We'll have to wait and see how this plays out, but for now, what do you think of the Lenovo folding concept phone? Is that something you could see yourself using with Windows 10? Hit the comments.

Jez Corden is a Senior Editor for Windows Central, focusing primarily on all things Xbox and gaming. Jez is known for breaking exclusive news and analysis as relates to the Microsoft ecosystem while being powered by caffeine. Follow on Twitter @JezCorden and listen to his Xbox Two podcast, all about, you guessed it, Xbox!

243 Comments
  • Microsoft leaves mobile for 3 years in order to go to the next big thing. But before Nadella can bother to show up, Google and their ecosystem partners are already there. Again, no fire or sense of urgency in Nadella's Microsoft.
  • Hate to agree, but I have to. The writing is also already on the wall for the big thing known as HoloLens. If Microsoft wants to win that war, get them on the shelves for $300 and consider it a loss leader for future incarnations of the platform.
  • I dont think a 300$ price tag will make it a success. I'd say their best bet is to make it available in the U.S. only and ensure that all the apps that provide services in the U.S. are available in the windows store before launch. Then they can expand gradually after that. If you check the amount of apps today on android and iOS, oh man, MS is too late and lazy
  • You mean europe and UK as there is higher win mobile users in percentages......
  • L520 buyers aren't going to be able to afford a Hololens.
  • a 300$ price tag and LTE would make them fly off the shelves, and v2 and v3 will slim it down and fix the fov, success
  • why US only, thats why android is all over becoz they don't discriminate. its only your money that talks.
  • Jus curious, anyone know how many today's popular windows applications, mobile apps, internet services started up from US? from other country? Line is popular in Japan, Taiwan and.. is it Vietnam or Thailand? And it's going no where...
  • Android is all over because Google created a mobile operating that put the manufacturers in control. Microsoft keeps all the control with Windows so manufacturers weren't motivated to create phones for them. All the manufacturers put Android everywhere while ignoring Windows.
  • I've been saying that for years. None of the OEMs want to invest in a device that can't be differentiated from a software perspective. Microsoft was like differentiate with apps...but that didn't really pan out too well. OEMs want to be able to change some things and offer a different experience to the user. Maybe the OS wasn't ready for that yet...but with all this work with one core and what not AND this more open Microsoft - maybe there will be hope yet!
  • They should allow OEMs to create their own shells. That would be cool and could really get some manufacturers behind the platform.
  • Have you not yet heard of the Windows holographic platform and the numerous devices coming out in a couple of months? Many of them under 300$
  • Tethered to a computer. So yeah its basically having an external monitor but for your head. Hololens is so much more than that and doesnt need another device to run it. That's the difference. The specs for hollows are relatively low so at least $500 for the device.
  • Until a device like hololens is actually sitting on the shelf at Walmart and can be used sans PC tethered to it, it's vaporware. And now that Apple's announced a big, public push into AR that'll happen starting with iOS devices, it's basically over for Windows Holographic. Nobody but nerds knows anything about it. The masses will think Apple "changed everything...again!" and that's where their dollars will go. Microsoft is tripping over its own feet.
  • Yep, count me in on that one as well. Surface phone had been late for over a year now. It should have been launched with the killing off of Lumia devices. Since the end of Lumia 950 / 950XL production, Surface Phone had been late already, every day counting as another nail in its coffin.
  • You know...... I swear 😬
    .....
    MS knows they don't have a product ready, so they file patents.... Hey! Gotta get paid somehow❗ 💜💜💜
  • Now, with the "Surface Phone" we need it to fold the other direction. So, MS can be first with that. 😂😂😂
  • Then again.... MS wasn't the first with tablets, and look at Surface.. So, this is in no way a nail in coffin for a Surface Phone... The Surface Phone just must be appealing, as the Surface Pro was, and offer what a mobile OS can't... And, it will.
  • I like talking to myself....
  • We know you are mentally incapable to thinking quietly.
  • It's all good though.
  • ill join you my friend haha
  • Another thing to consider is that it took 3 attempts before surface really caught on. Is everyone here willing to wait till surface phone 3 before people catch on? I know i am because the most likely scenario is that the surface phone will be too early and too different for people to catch on from the go, like the surface pro was.
  • I've mentioned this before... I expect the Surface Phone (if there is gonna be one) to be a much better version 1 than the original Surface Pro was simply because MS has already figured out the winning formula for the Surface brand... If it folds, the first generation seam may not be perfect, as with the hinge on the first generation Surface Book. I don't think it would take MS more than 2 generations to get the Surface Phone right, but I'm not sure about marketing, which would determine everything.
  • Agreed
  • If this Surface Phone (win10.Portable) allows me to dock it on my gamepad playing xpa titles... take my money!!!!!
    I'm happy to throw away my Nexus phones day1 when this is out!
  • That will be Microsoft's third attempt in mobile.  First there was Windows Mobile with the old interface needing a stylus to press anything on the screen (anything before version 7).  Then there was the Windows Phone attempt (version 7, 8, 8.1 and W10M) with the tiles interface. The next one is the third attempt :-)  
  • Windows Mobile up to about version 5.0 was a success. It definitely saw a blow because times changed and technology advanced, but before iDroid it was the go to smartphone OS, and was mostly used by enterprise, and enthusiast. WM set the stage for what the smartphone is today (alongside BB, palm, and others).... I don't know why people think WM wasn't a success.. It's like thinking analog TV wasn't a success because it's not "popular" anymore, and we use digital now. Times change.. I can't say the same for Windows Phone 7.0 - 10, but I will say that anyone would be a fool to think that iDroid, as we use smartphones today, will be the way things are done forever. Smartphones aren't where technology stops. I know it's hard for the small minded to imagine a future where things are different, but it's inevitable. Someone will always come up with a better way. And, it's also short slighted to think that it definitely will be MS, Apple, or Google in the future who does so. Look back to the Nineties, and how we knew electric cars were coming, and look at Tesla now...We always imagine it would be the big three to come first with an electric vehicle for prime time, but that completely wasn't the case........
    Like I said, times change.
  • The Surface Pro isn't a tablet. It doesn't sell as a tablet. It is a convertible laptop at best.
  • Dude, it's a tablet.... Call it what you want. 2i1, whatever. I have a Surface3... It's a PC, it's a tablet... Whatever... Works both ways.
    Fact is without the keyboard is closer to a tablet than anything.
  • I have a Surface Pro 3. Without the keyboard, it is almost useless. Windows 10 is a pain when used all touch. The onscreen keyboard is absolutely terrible and there are no good apps to speak of. The Surface Pro line are laptops that can almost pass as tablets.
  • Dude, you're sick.. I don't even have the keyboard, and it works terrifically... The thing is that there's two kinds of people. People who can't live without the keyboard, and those that can't live without the pen, and that's fine.. I use my pen religiously... How often do you use your pen?
  • What is that Steve Jobs quote about the pen?
  • Well, paraphrased, it was, If you see a stylus, they did it wrong. But that was out of context as much as Balmers oft repeated assessment of the iPhone. Jobs point was that the iPad/iOS was designed with no pen required. At the time, Windows Mobile really called for a stick to hit some of the tiny UI targets. Hell, the devices came with stylii and silos to keep them in. That has unfortunately not changed much. There is too much wrapping of Win32 apps that were designed assuming a keyboard and mouse on a desktop with 24" monitors and slapping them on 10" tablets. It's still true today, if you are on a tablet, and are compelled to drag out a pen/stylus to be able to use an app, they did it wrong. 
  • I don't care how groundbreaking the hardware is.  No apps, no chance. 
  • No we don't. Imagine the scratches. Screen on screen is NOT a good idea.
  • In this case screen on screen is a good idea.
    Imagine the scratches of always having an exposed screen like in that video.
    The screen is always at risk with that design.
    Inserting in your pocket is a risk.
  • You do not understand how scratches work. A screen on the outside normally touches soft materials like your pants. But if you have two hard surfaces, the smallest amount of dust between them will cause scratches.
  • There's a way around that.
    There could be a little protrusion on the extreme edges of the device, which will provide a clearance between the screen on screen
  • Not if it folds the other direction,,, which for a Surface Phone it should.
  • Surface phone could come with three displays with the ability to fold both ways. Fold it close and you got your phone and open it flat you got your tablet. I wouldn't mind that.
  • Exactly what I was thinking.
  • IDK,,,, with 3 sections those sections would have to be unbelievably thin, so that the overall thickness of the device was kept to a minimum.. I mean, this thing needs to be pant pocketable, although I don't expect it to be pocketable for everyone.
  • True, i was just expressing my fantasy...fantasy is the reality for us windows phone fans! Pocketability, weight, thickness, battery consumption, fragility, thewe are all issues that have to be overcome.
  • Exactly.
  • Microsoft only filed patents of specific designs of a foldable device.  Apple & Google are most probably investigating on similar concepts.  If such a Surface Mobile device sees any initial success, they will release similar products.  Microsoft will have a hard battle on mobile, even if they manage to release a cool product.  It is so easy for Apple & Google to copy from MS.
  • ...the problem is they don't have an OS capable of doing the same things and the desktop market is dominated by Windows, so MS is ahead on this new form factor...much ahead. It'll be very hard for them to compete, much like has been for MS to compete in the mobile world...
  • What about iOS, we don't know how they have that run across iPad and Phone, or if they are changing it to be able to adapt to devices of all sorts of sizes. MS are still working on CShell of course so maybe Apple are in the background? Software wise it's easy for people to forget how many normal average people don't use a PC except at work. I don't think I could use this device for that much, because I need too many dev tools etc.
  • Yeah, we can't just underestimate Apple here for not doing anything, even they are stubborn in many cases. Remember that they always work on things in secret or at least low-profile. Apple is a tech company that they only show things when its actually ready on the shelves, which unlike Microsoft and even Google love to tease with new things, over-promise and under deliver after weeks or months of announcement. About Cshell, hopefully, that when they release it finally introduce it officially, it must be polished and feature-set are at least almost on-par on what we have now. Not releasing another half-baked thing and fixing everything after bit-by-bit. Crossing my fingers with this. First impression matters alot!
  • Lol is kapout !! A dog, even disguised will remain a dog !!
    Microsoft does not understand anything ... it's a reality!
    A user of 930xl
  • That's the idea, right there.
  • Sure they do. MS is making sure they can run 'Windows' on iOS and Android. Search the respective stores on each of those platforms for Microsoft. You don't need a WP to run Office, Skype, Groove, LinkedIn, OneDrive, Remote Desktop, XBox, and on and on. People don't run an OS, they run apps, and even MS is making sure you don't need Windows to run MS on mobile. /s
  • You couldn't be more wrong, gnomagico.  Phone users aren't clammoring for desktop apps.  The lack of mobile apps is what killed Windows Mobile.  Of that there is zero debate.  All of the posters here are ignoring the 600 lb. gorilla in this room - the lack of apps.  I don't care how cool the hardware is.  If I can't do on the Windows mobile platform what I can do on the iOS and Android mobile platforms, then this whole effort is DOA.  Browsers and bots are not suitable alternatives to the app experience.  If you can't port existing iOS or Android apps to the platform, and you can't drive developers to the platform, then MS is just rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic.  Put briefly, "no apps, no chance". 
  • Google doesn't have an OS that can compete with Windows10. Google are building a new OS that works with this foldable form factor, codename of that OS is Fuchsia and Google expects it to be ready in 2020. So it's save to say that Microsoft has a head start in this concept, Android on a device like this is not good enough and iOS on it makes no sense at all. With iOS you have a small phone when it's closed and a bigger phone when it's open, when it's open I want to multitask.
  • How is Android not good enough on a touchscreen?
  • Can someone explain me this patent thing? How can you patent something when you don't have the product. How is Lenovo expected to pay Microsoft for this thing? 
  • You patent an idea/ a design concept.
  • Watch the series "Genius" on Netflix.. It shows how patent wars from the late 19th century, and early 20th century, brought us where we are today.
  • Is that "American Genius"? I'll add it to my playlist, I'm curious.
  • Yep.. It's a series.. Every episode touches on patents.
  • Uh, isn't that how it works? You have an idea, you patten it so someone doesn't patten it before you. 
  • There's a little more to it than that, but that's part of it, yes
  • Microsoft patented the hinge design though. Not dual-screen devices. That already existed before MS patent.
  • MS actually filed a patent for their own folding screen seam, which has a way to bend light so that it's not as noticeable in the middle of the screen.
  • These are the things that will differentiate the Surface Phone.. In-depth attention to detail, and innovation. The Surface team will accept no less.
  • Rodney...Sorry to have to do this....but.......... Capitan Obvious to the rescue....faster than the speed of stupid!  Of course they never had a product.....
  • I liked the part "...Microsoft has done an incredible job of alienating UWP developers..."
  • You "like" it?🤔🤔🤔🤔
  • That is what MSFT have been doing since Windows Vista (2006 onwards). In fact they love doing it so often that they hired Satya Nadella to cause grief and pain to "Windows phone fans"
  • Lol
  • Except for the fact the UWP apps can run on desktop/laptop and even Xbox as well as potentially on W10Mobile. So depending on what the developer made there is no reason for them to feel alienated in the slightest
  • Folding design is pointless without a full OS. What's the point of the tech with a Mobile OS.
  • It's actually just the opposite.   Why have a mobile centric device with a desktop os on it.   Pointless.  
  • Because a foldable screen is to make a mobile also a PC. The whole point is to have a 5-6" screen fold out to a 10-12" screen. There is absolutely no way a mobile OS can compete with a real OS on a 10-12" device. Apps don't even come close to the functionality of a real software program. That's why 95% of app developers make no money whatsoever. And 88% of app users delete an app from their device within a week of downloading it. Pretty scary numbers. The reality is a massively small selection if apps are used constantly. The rest are useless. And the websites operate much much better.
  • Please Richard....lay off the MS kool Aid for a bit.  when being mobile  desktop software nor websites have more functionality than apps developed for mobile use....if you think they do,  then,  you do not use your devices while mobile then...if your just sitting in your room all day long...then yes...desktop software is fine,  just as continuum and now DeX is a total failure because it's not needed or wanted in a mobile device....maybe 88 percent of windows moible users...since their apps are trash anyways.  I know that I have deleted a total of probably 6 or 7 apps that I have downloaded,  but I replaced them with better versions or more complete...no choice in that with crappy windows moible 3rd party crap aps.
  • There is no way a 5-6" screen unfolds to 10".
  • Your post is laughable Mr. Loveridge - fiction to support your "apps are basically useless" narrative.  Your last sentence says it all - "...websites operate much much better".  Get back to me when you can deposit a check in your online bank using your browser.  And 95% of app developers make no money?  Are you talking only about the kid in his/her basement?  Because here's a fact - an actual fact: 16% of Android app developers make north of $5,000 per month.  And that's Android for crying outloud.  iOS developers do even better. 
  • Ahy, Richard is a kool aid drinking fangirl here.  He's blind to anything but Praising the MS.  
  • its Lenovo so..there is a bit of hope that they would implement the same for windows ecosystem when we have the surface phone...and its just the concept(being positive)
  • Heeeeeyyyyy❗❗❗❗ That is a terrific point, and I never thought about that. Good thinking. Thanks!
  • That is nonsense. Microsoft has simply learned not to show all their cards before they have a completed product, as they have done with the rest of the surface devices. We know they have prototypes inside Microsoft, they are simply not showing it to the world. So stop panicking because chances are that the surface mobile device will leave this Lenovo concept thingy in the dust
  • Plus, what kind of complete idiot would buy a Lenovo product, what with all the spyware installed on them... Not to mention Lenovo has many problems with build quality, or rather lack of it. Granted win10 steals all your info, but at least M$ doesn't give it to the Chinese government... at least I hope not...
  • Actually what kind of complete idiot would spew your nonsense.  Read it and weep, Einstein:  https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptop-brand-ratings And please don't try and shoot the messenger.  Laptop Magazine is as credible a source as you can get.  They're not in anyone's pocket and they're a publication of highly regarded Tom's Hardware.  Lastly, I seriously doubt that MS themselves would sell Lenovo PCs and Thinkpads in their own online store if they were filled with "all the spyware" that you accuse them of including on their products.  That ship sailed long ago. 
  • I know everyone likes to complain about Surface Phone taking so long and how the next version of Hololens should have been out sooner. But has anyone stopped to think that both of these issues may not have really been caused by Microsoft at all? We know that when the initial rumors of Surface Phone began, it was rumored to be an x86 device. Then Intel went and cancelled all of their Atom and cell phone processors. HoloLens is also an x86 device, correct? If all of Intel's small Atom processors were discontinued, that would mean Microsoft would have to switch to another low power processor. In response to Intel canceling this line of processors we then started to hear about Microsoft developing full blown windows to run on ARM. It's possible that Microsoft was forced to regroup and start redesigning these low power platforms because Intel cancelled the very parts they were designed to run on. So if you guys want to be upset about all this taking so long, it really may be Intel that you should be so angry with. And if this is true, you can expect the next version of Hololens will have an ARM processor.
  • "you can expect the next version of Hololens will have an ARM processor." I have no doubt that it will be an ARM Processor. No point for X86.
  • ..because as I have stated a thousand times before; Nutella is only worried about his own pockets and the quick money grab cloud crap. This company will be a dinosaur in a decade because of this clown.
  • Yep. Ballmer had his own problems, but at least he stood behind Windows Phone and leaned into it, making it grow, even if in fits and spurts. Nadella just gave up.
  • It is critical to Microsoft to get to market fast with their innovative products. However I personally don't see much value in Android or iOS on large screen devices. The ability for a phone to become a tablet or laptop or desktop when docked seems a lot more useful with Windows 10 than with Android or iOS. The phone part is of course the weak link for Windows and the area Microsoft isn't giving the attention it deserves. A patch for this weak link might be to allow Android app emulation on WoA.
  • The windows ecosystem won't help Microsoft. Plus they are getting rid of their die hard fans.
  • It's helped Surface so far, why wouldn't it continue to?
  • surface is considered a PC, and people use PCs for heavy work. As for the surface foldable or pocket device, I don't think many will buy it. simply because other smartphone OSes offer far more services via apps that aren't available on the windows store. enterprise? maybe. unless they rely on services (mostly government) offered by apps.
  • If it's full windows on ARM with a screen that can unfold to 8 inches?  You don't think people will buy it?  I'll be first in line to pick one up!
  • Agree, but only if it unfolds to 10", and comes with a connection dock for an external display and plenty of USB slots. It needs to be a 3-in-1.
  • And it needs to be slimmer than the Lenovo, even when folded out that thing looks pretty thick. I think if anybody can improve the design it's the Surface team. This would need to be mobile enough that it could replace my phone completely, I just don't need MORE devices to carry around
  • How will it fit into your pocket? 
  • A 10" tablet even folded into 3 is still huge. It isn't going to replace your phone.
  • Why would a ten inch tablet folded into 3 not be smaller than a 1520?... It would
  • It could well be as thick as three 1520 stacked. Haven't seen a phone that thick since 2005.
  • Three 1520s would make a screen that is only slightly bigger than an iPad. 1920x3240 would be an interesting aspect ratio.
  • Not me. A lot of government services (parking, transportation, speed fines, carriers, bills) , shopping membership cards, banks, restaurants, bike rental, etc are investing in mobile apps which are not available on windows. These apps have more features than websites. For example my carrier has an app with "shake phone for deal" and it's not available on the website. Bike rental requires the app to rent a bike based on your location, also there is an app to pay for your car parking based on location, etc. So no a foldable windows tablet is not for me. I would probably get a 250$ windows laptop which stays at home.
  • No they don't. Not in the UK. Apps are always less featured than the websites. By a huge margin.
  • Beg to differ there Richard.   You cannot unlock hotel doors,  rental cars etc with their websites....its only windows mobile apps that are far behind and less featured than websites...which is also odd because most of them are web wrappers making them less functional while mobile anyways.  
  • Run Bluestack and you can have all the apps.
  • Bluestacks is not a real option. At least not for consumers. I used it once only with snapchat app on my hp spectre x360 i7-7500u and 16 gigs of ram (strong computer) and it sucked. It's was slow as a phone from 2007 and it crushed every 2 or 3 minutes. If you want android apps you need an android device. But also I don't think it will be a device for consumers. At least not the first one. So...
  • Have you tried MeMu? I have successfully used it as my testing emulator to develop an android app on Xamarin. Contrary to the popular recommendation of having a real device for testing. Blue Stacks was below par for me.
  • Going to try MeMu now....is it advertising driven?
  • I for one will not be buying a surface for the way MS treats me as a windows mobile user. Futhermore I advise all my customers to stay away from MS as they are unreliable. Fortunately 99% of them have gone Apple with their phone and pc a long time ago. So, yes, the way MS treats their mobile users does affect sales of other products and services. I will only use MS products if there is no good alternative, sad but true.
  • Although interesting, Microsoft need to offer much more than just a foldable device to spark interest from the market (both business and consumer). Go foldable just for the sake of being foldable I guess it won't work. We can just wait and see.
  • The Graphene screen is the future.  LG, Samsung, Lenovo, Microsoft and Apple are all hard working at the flexible foldable screen designs for their mobile devices.  MS will have a better than fair chance to succeed due to its dominating W10 desktop position.  A pocket tablet with phone features will be an attractive form factor for the W10 users.
  • It would have to fully replace my phone to be suitable though. If it can't do that then what else will it replace? Not my Surface Pro or laptop not enough power.
  • Well, this concept will be like replacing a smartphone (especially phablets) and a small 7-inch tablet. This won't replace any medium and larger tablets like Surface Pros. The unfold mode will be suited for general consumption like reading and watching videos, but it will also do just fine for lighter productivity where larger workspace is always welcome. Even for everyday note-taking would be a wonderful use-case for this too. The question here is the execution of such concept as a useful product, and how polished the overall experience with it. The OS must be able to utilise the possible use-case of such unique form-factor, more than just between phone and a tablet mode. They must remember the Courier concept on how it fully utilised the dual-screen form factor. This can be applied here too, only without that mechanical hinge.
  • You only have to carry your laptop when needed for serious work or on business trips.  All other times, the pocket tablet/phone will do the job for convenience.  The foldable mobile device is particularly important for the W10 users, it could replace their existing phones.  It would run all the Windows Store apps, web apps and PWAs.  Those apps can only grow with the fast expanding W10 user base.  The apps gap issue will be resolved for most over time if not all.  The new W10 form factor can't die unless W10 platform dies.  I woould expect all the Windows OEMs will fight to support this new W10 form factor which is far more useful and versatile than the fixed tablets.
  • Windows 10 isn't expanding very fast at all. Microsoft is actually at half their projected users. UWP apps are going away, even Microsoft isn't using it for their own apps! https://betanews.com/2017/04/01/windows-10s-share-stalls/
  • Desktops are irrelevent and Microsoft doesn't have a strong touchscreen platform. They have a very poor chance of succeeding, especially with a mobile device.
  • For the most part, I agree with what you say, bleached.  Desktop apps are irrelevant in the mobile space.  The idea that people would flock to a MS mobile product that provides full Win10 and its gazillion desktop apps on a device that has cellular capabilities is wrong headed, IMO.  Where I disagree with you is your assertion that they don't have a "strong touchscreen platform".  What's your definition of "strong" in that context?  If you're referring to their Live Tile interface, I can understand because many people are indeed put off by it.  But once an app has been opened, I find its touch sensitivity and responsiveness equal in every way to the experience offered in Android.  I can't speak to the iOS experience because I've never owned/used an iPhone.  I currently use a very capable Android running Nougat, and I find that its touch functionality is no better than that of my previous phone, which was a Lumia Icon.  I moved to Android only because of the dearth of capable apps on WinMo. 
  • I'll be interested if they made a phone that can fold to 5 inches.  I can't stand how large high powered phones are getting.  I also, like the look and feel of windows OS.