New Windows Phone Preview for Developers 14219 update is live

But if you are developer you would like your phone up to date, did you? and this update not only about cortana only, at i know.

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Totally

Sure it is... Like updating the XBox Music - Not!  Give me back the OS build version.  Like updating the People Hub - Not!  Give me back my original people hub.  Like updating the photos hub - Not!  I could go on and on but if you think Update is a "sweet word" keep telling yourself that if that make you happy.  :/

Crybaby. Boo hoo hoo

Sorry if the truth hurts!  If that makes me a cry baby.  Then color me a cry baby.  I'm more than happy to wear that moniker.  What?  You think that hurts my feelings?  Dude are you in the second grade?  Please.  Yes!  I'm proud to be a cry baby telling the truth!  :) Or is that you can't handle the truth?

If you want old sick with 7.8

Truth from your perspective. I'm happy with all the changes. Speak for yourself man-child.

Your truth is your truth, sure. Most of us would call it an opinion.  Everything in your rant is something people could identify with and probably agree.  It was the last sentence that was silly.  Update is still a sweet word because it means iteration and it means cycles are being spent on the product.  It doesn't mean that the results of updates are always welcome or well received.  The updates that you specifically reference actually made sense (and in some cases were necessary) from a technical perspective. People hub = future proof and faster cycle than waiting for FB to break APIs and require an OS update to fix.  XBOX Music = personally, broken the minute they killed off Zune without an adequate replacement.  Oh, and Photo Hub = I get it, telemetry says people do things a particular way, but they didn't have to make it the default for everyone. At least make the new view optional.  If I did things like everyone, I would be on an iPhone.  They seem to have a problem with execution and communication.

@RayWP7 I'm not going to argue with you with the "Your truth is your truth..."  You are correct.  It is my opinion.  WP7?  My wife still uses HTC Radar 4G and boy do I miss the beauty of the original Windows Phone when ever I use her phone.  Yes, I do realize some people think these updates have been good for WP, but I'm not falling for it.  Microsoft has watered down the product for the most part. IMO.  Being able to save apps to your SD Card was a GREAT update.  It's one thing to make updates, but don't kill off all the good things while doing it.  Yes.  I fell into the trap of answering as if my opinion is the truth (for everyone).  But I'm glad to see you mostly agree with my sentiments.

very gracious whodaboss

Yeah whoda I get you gripe and in some ways I feel the same but also now I get the same thing in the universal apps and this will become a more common occurrance. I know in the near future moving from device to device and not getting a consistent experience or "one" that is seriously outdated would be a major issue for many. I do think "you" would be really annoyed by that.... So its not always the one thing but the broader view that makes this a non-issue for me.

Very articulate ray

Lol not crybaby, but it makes you a troll.  Your complaints are very minor for the most part, however I could agree with the xbox music. That is stand alone and not solely dictated by an OS build update.

Amen to that How I miss the glory of the old photo hub

Mommy's gonna change your diaper soon. So you can just stop crying

Anyone got a bottle for me?  I also want XBOX Musix, People hub and Photos hub back to how they were or updated based on those versions.  Whodaboss is right on the money.

I agree as well. The old people and photo hub were amazing for the integration they had with social networks (Microsoft just had to improve on that, adding foursquare, for instance, and others), which was a huge promise of Microsoft when they announced WP7. It's just odd that Microsoft is the only company that kills off features with updates.

you guys are missing the complications to this, ideally, microsoft wanted everything integrated, but it prove to be an unfeasible goal as they can barely get new OS updates going out within 6 months because of carrier shenanigans.   You guys are so damn annoying!  "Microsoft, why dont you update more? we never get updates!"  "Microsoft, why did you make everything able to be updated faster, I want it back how it was!"    With all you whiners its just a lose/lose for microsoft =/

the only problem is people want their social networks in APP form ... that is why they got yanked out of the o/s ... they still have their hooks in the o/s as you can share whatever with your social apps.   microsoft saw which way the world was going and changed courses.   change happens ... learn and adapt.

Where are the old people?

Huh, what truth? It's a subjective matter, you can't speak for everyone.

Some of us like Xbox Music.

*fainted*

No, you people who call us "crybaby" are idiots.  Windows Phone was unique -- and BETTER -- for a number of reasons, not the least of which was the hub concept and where it COULD have gone.  But Android and iOS lovers ruined many amazing aspects of Windows Phone because you insisted it be more like Android and iOS.  You are all idiots, plain and simple.

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Only an idiot calls other people idiots!

Cool story

So you are? :p

I agree   With each update Windows Phone is becoming less and less unique, and the people asking for it to become more like Android and iOS will eventually leave for those platforms.  

"No, you people who call us "crybaby" are idiots."  People who call other people names are arseholes.

yeah that is right, but i think the windows phone  team just  took too literally the look like more as Android, people demmanded  things that on android existed  even in the version 2.1 like   notification center,    quick shortcuts on there, but not kill the people hub , the xbox music i think it was  a bad move,  should still with  zune till have an competent  replacement or simply   still with zune and if you are user of  xbox music get the player as an independent application, because in the real word the xbox music do not come with anything new  or even support for more codecs  than just only more bugs correction

Wait, so updating an app that you want improved is bad?

Dude... Relax

If only Verizon knew how to use that word....

Are you suggesting that it doesn't mean "Buy a new phone".

No, it means, "Buy a new Android or iPhone"

Yep, that's what it meant for me. Sold the Icon, ditched Verizon and picked up a Nexus 5 on t-mobile. Been super happy with t-mobile coverage, LTE has even been faster than Verizon. The way they treated Icon users and 928 (which I still own) was a joke, they really don't give a crap about thier customers.

Daniel is in full flow today, he is writing all the articles by himself after a lull all day yesterday.

He was traveling yesterday.

Cool but cortana still doesn't work!!!

is this build 14219 will be included in GDR1 i.e I will get with denim whenever it will release?

3.41

version# 8.10.14219.341

Hopefully it ends my "Resuming" nightmare on the 1520

It only brings cortana to different countries nothing new

The article also says "as usual, we also expect some bug fixes and optimizations as well" which one of them could be a bug fix or optimization for the resuming screen which bothers alot of users on different lumias... :P

I don't think this update fixes anything.. It's major purpose was Cortana.. .. Well there's only one way to find out :p

Nothing new for you, but for us in Germany it's a whole new level! I waited about half a year to finally see Cortana in German... Greetz, Franz

Cellular data is now an option in the action centre

Same here!!

And on the 1020. My Start button has become useless.

Same here. It might be more fitting if MS chages the name from Lumia to "Resuming..." since it seems like that's all I do on WP anymore. Seriously, what happened to Windows Phone? It used to be so quick and silky smooth.

its preview software... it isnt final software. if you dont want to have things change, dont enroll in a preview program let alone install preview software on your device

This happened when I had the final build without the preview installed. Try again smart guy. I think it has more to do with the fact that microsoft is taking functions that were a part of the naitive OS and making them individual apps. They get updated more often this way, but they truly suck and cause the entire OS to drag.

smart guy says 2 things... 1. dont update your phone if you are happy with it 2. cry to microsoft directly if you think that will help  

Yeah you prolly have the live lock screen glitch. Uninstall live lock screen apps like Tetra and enable kid's corner to clear the live lock screen completely. I see "resuming" from time to time on my 512MB/1GB RAM phones, but very rarely on the 2GB 1520.

ever try a clean install? It is a last resort solution since it's basically a hard reset. But this is the only route to take if you want to prove it's an OS issue, assuming the hardware is perfect. I usually clean install on a major OS update or when I see anomalies. If I see 'resuming' on my L920, which is very seldom, it would be less than a second. And first try running the clean install without restoring your data.

It does that on my phone 1520 and I just got it brand new about a month ago, so I wonder what happened to it to.

My lumia has always been on the "resuming" screen frequently ever since the final update of wp8.1 was released :P

Your experience is not universal. I have a 1020 and only see it occaisionally and its not long.  

My Lumia Icon had this problem but its not entirely an o/s issue... HTC 8x is normal. And fast/fluid. Also great Wi-Fi. Odd the Lumia behaves so poorly on DP. I'd trade an icon straight up for an 8x any day. Went back to it and won't look back until Verizon has something better (with wireless charging)

I thought that was just me. Hope they sort it

did u try enable kids corner

Totally agree... It's annoying sometimes...

This is a Microsoft Mobile problem. I used to get it all the time on my 920... Can't even remember if I've ever gotten it on my One.

Never gotten it fon my One either.

Heading to the update...

OS: 8.10.14219.341

Thank the lord for PFD. Thanks MS.

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What the purpose updating through preview , first update it then downgrade it to get official firmware update...useless

that happened just once rt ??

You did not need to downgrade, you just had to wait a bit longer for the firmware.

Then don't do it

You don't have to downgrade to get firmware updates, the bitlocket thing was a bug, and it only affected those would have bitlocked active, just that ms blocked the update for everyone, you fucktard

And if your provider decides that phone they sold you four months ago doesn't deserve any further support or upgrades and will never get new firmware?

I got Black while on PFD, got Cyan too, and neither time I had to downgrade, just had to wait a little longer for Cyan due a restart bug that was found after Cyan was released.

Downloading...

Yeyy cyan on my Verizon icon!! Jk.....

We don't joke about such things here.

Agreed.

Lol

Does xda have a work around yet?

No.... If the rom was available id instantly send a tip in...

But when wp8.1 gdr2 update come

Lumia Denim isn't until late December, early 2015

Lumia denim is gdr1. It's for those who are not on pfd

Denim is Update 1(gdr1)

No. Denim is the firmware updates that accompanies update 1 on Lumia phones. It is different than the software updates.

This confuses me. Will my HTC get an update late December? Or is it only the Lumia firmware... People saying Update 1 makes me think an update for everyone AND denim for Lumias

You're correct, Update 1 is for everyone, firmwares are for Lumia phones.

Im aware. But my question is... Is there an update for "everyone" late December AND for Lumias? Or only Lumias. I get the difference

Denim is the firmware for Nokia phones only. Nokia like to call the firmware which accompanies a phone update such as 8.1.1 daft names to confuse people who are new to Windows Phones. Denim will introduce featu