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Nokia Lumias grab Extras + Info update, causes false Lumia Denim firmware sightings

Microsoft this morning pushed out an update for the Extras + Info system app found on Nokia Lumia smartphones. The Extras + Info area is where users can find out what firmware version they are currently on, like Lumia Black, Lumia Cyan, or Lumia Denim.

Today's update arrives without a changelog; however it is safe to surmise that it is laying the groundwork for the forthcoming Lumia Denim update for those still on Cyan. In fact, many people have tipped us after updating to tell they now have the Lumia Denim update.

Evidently, the Extras + Info update for some users is causing the app to reveal temporarily the firmware as Lumia Denim. Going back into the app afterwards though resets it back to Lumia Cyan.

Indeed, over-the-air firmware updates are obviously much more significant than just updating an app in the Store. Moreover, firmware updates typically start at 1 PM Eastern Time and not early in the morning. Having said that, this is a good sign that Microsoft is getting ready to being pushing out the firmware, as updating Extras + Info is needed properly to reflect any changes in a firmware update. This example is analogous to the odd Network+ update last week, which was needed for today's Truecaller app update to expose API access to the Windows Phone dialer for real-time Caller ID.

Regardless, take today's update for Extras + Info, but do not assume you just received a firmware update. Windows Central will keep you posted when Lumia Denim does officially begin.

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Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

  • So is the site now officially Windows Central?
  • this! so you have noticed the change!! :p  
  • I don't know the photo in the article still has phone in it.
  • Nice. I like it
  • Maybe
  • Okay I 'm not going to update Windows Phone Central apps on my phone
  • Apps or app?
    Why wouldn't you?
  • Hmm, my prototype Lumia 830 still says Denim. Maybe the rumor about Debian Red being an internal name for Denim was true?
  • When was 'Debian Red is Denim' just a rumor? They're the same thing..
  • He/She/whatever voted you down for telling the truth, I fixed that. Debian Red was a code name and the release name is Denim.
  • Windows Central is okay, but what am I going to say now ? "I found it on the WC??" Saying WPC was cool, Windows One +
  • Lol you found it in the bathroom?
  • Lol
  • I don't think saying WC is lame... If you think it is just say it windows central. I think at the time of wpcentral, wpc must have looked weird too.
  • No matter what, WC is a WC ;)
  • WinCentral. Less syllables than WC.
  • @Slovenix, Lol..
  • Denim.. What's next Emerald? :)
  • So it's Windows Central?
  • Ember sounds fun.
  • That's actually not bad.
  • Or jade. I'd love to see Ruby, Azure, White, or Scarlet.
  • Well, 'E' is the next letter after D for Denim. Ember or Emerald seem like obvious choices.
  • Naming it Ember can confuse with Amber. Like "did you mean Amber?"
  • æmber, of course!
  • Confuse who? The average consumer?
  • Mom's and dad's ;) (you got it, right?)
  • Lol
  • I don't get it.
  • Verizon.
  • Ah, yes. In that case I hope they go with minerals. It could have been Bismuth, Cobalt, Emerald, Ferric...
    Oh, the possibilities.
  • Well I think they should go for gems.
  • This is how slow WP news is............
    And, they wonder why we're only at 5% market share...... SMH.
  • I thought market share wasn't important for Microsoft.
    Read from an article here..
  • I know that article. And, it's BS.. Lets ask ourselves this.. Is it important to their shareholders? Do shareholders believe that BS?
    MS saying that MS isn't important is like Apple saying larger screens aren't important... They are just saying that because they don't have it.. Lol❗
  • Well, I don't think that Microsoft is going to change their habit of delaying.
    Their market share is not going to rise either because they don't let us tether.. :P
  • "there habit", "there market", learn some english or use a decent translator... put what you wrote on any translator and see if your words made sense... not bashing, just stating your incredible writing skills...
  • His message gets across just fine. Aprendiendo en otros lenguas es muy deficíl. Especialmente la gramática.
    Based on your concept of the English language, this should be fairly concise WITHOUT using a translator.
    Not bashing, just showing my incredible point of view.
  • Wrote using word flow.. :P
  • Oh...that's awkward on my part. xP But that previous message was directed at the other guy.
  • :)
  • Dude.. You're an idiot.. Who cares..
  • On that link I posted "EMERALD (variety of Beryl- Berylium Aluminum Silicate)" it is a mineral. Just a variety of Beryl. They all are :). Plus Lumia Lead (pb) has a nice ring to it. Edit: Here is the complete list!
  • Hahahahahah it would be nice if it was named as metals :')
  • Emerald! Cuz theme color of Xbox is Emerald. And it will be great if MS bring Xbox game streaming play with windows(phone)
  • I keep thinking "Emerald."
  • You won't be hearing white for a long long time... For Ruby and scarlet the same... And for azure...
    Well it will never come as after "D" comes "E". :D
  • Fine, lets settle with these. Pick your favorites.
  • We could have Ferrum, the latin word for iron and sword!
  • Lumia Ferrum,
    Rhymes with Denim.. :D
  • Would be great to have it Lumia Emerald!!
  • Now what firmware I have ._.
  • You still have cyan.
  • Tweed, maybe ...
  • E.. Endroid?
  • I think... Amber - Black - Cyan - Denim - Emerald - Firebrick - Green - Harlequin - Indigo - Jade - Khaki - Lavender - Magenta - Navy blue - Orange - Purple - Quartz gray - Red - Silver - Teal - Ultramarine - Violet - White - Xanthic - Yellow - Zucchini? Got those from the Internet. :p
  • WOW.. A person to see all those firmware would be.. ANCIENT! :P (No Offense Microsoft)
  • lumia 1520 update extras +info don't change Lumia Denim
  • Same here, when I updated it never showed Lumia Denim.
  • Lumia Harlequin.. Harley quinn??? :3
  • I'm thinking Ebony or Evergreen.
  • I'm thinking Ebony or Evergreen
  • Piece of shit app. It either never logs my replies or it puts it in the wrong thread
  • Possible... who knows?
  • Is it very difficult writing a changelog?
  • As a programmer myself, I HATE keeping track of changes. I totally understand why it would get skipped.
  • Ohh! But it pleases the user even if he see 'Bug Fixes' written in the changes. The changelog is the first thing I search for when I see an update. Developer's don't need to be lazy.
  • You could extract change log from "to do" of your app...
    What I mean is that if you have decided that you will fix a bug in your app, add themes, etc. then wouldn't this be your change log?
  • But do you really need a change log for Extras + Info??? It doesn't even do anything.
  • Might just be me but the colour of "Lumia cyan" has changed to a darker blue closer to how denim looks but I have a 930 so it might just be my screen messing with me
  • I also noticed that on my L930, your screen isn't messing with you :)
  • Same here on my L930.. Guessing its a slight bug..
  • No, not messing up your screen. Same colourchange on my Lumia 930.
  • Still haven't gotten cyan from T-Mobile. They said they have no date set for it either. Guessing they're skipping it since denim is apparently due soon.
  • Yeah I'm so done with them this month.
  • This would be solved immediately if Microsoft would just release Cyan to Preview users on TMoUS. I don't get the hold up.
  • And Verizon. I'm about sick of the lack of support from carriers and Microsoft.
  • Yep, still waiting on my 925 with dev preview.
  • In the end, when DENIM is officially not Cyan.
    I guess
  • Yup, fixed.
  • changing into windows central huh?
  • And, your first paragraph reads wrong.. Don't you mean that many have tip you saying they have Denim?
  • Old habits die hard.
  • I know.. I never point these out because it's usually obvious what you mean... But, that one might confuse some of these kids... I mean, we still have guys posting that they have Denim in comments for this article.... SMH.
  • Staff comments like yours should be more distinguished in the app ;)
  • When Cyan "Begins". I thought it did already.
  • the good news is Lumia Denim is ready to distribute
  • I'm guessing evertime it says "Cyan" in the article, what Dan actually means is "Denim". Otherwise I'm very confused right now
  • I'm guessing too, because this article is very confusing in its present state.
  • Cyan + Denim = blue jeans... Verizon stole my pants.
  • Lol
  • Hahaha.
  • Haha +920 Unlocked
  • Lol my Lumia Icon settings haven't worked ever since I got 8.1. Well, the normal settings do, but all the Lumia specific settings, like extras+info has never worked.
  • IDK, but if I don't see a new high-end device leak soon I'm gonna do something bad.
  • Suicide?
  • No.
  • Haha,LOL
  • He's gonna visit Disney without his parents permission.... Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android
  • Well, I could❗
  • As an Icon owner, I appreciate you including Black in your article as a possible firmware option. Smh
  • Lol.
  • It makes sense when you think about it: Cotton shrinks (denim jeans), it shrunk back to cyan.
  • Its showing lumia denim in my lumia 925!!
  • Congrats.You still don't' have Denim though.
  • I know :P
  • I don't understand why your comments are so harsh or rude at times. "Congrats. You still don't have Denim though" is like slapping him and telling him he is dumb. I have seen other comments where you shut people down and tell them to go to the forums because they asked a technical question. Other sites do not handle things they way you like to. They kindly direct people to their forum not shut them down. We are human and not perfect. You should be kinder as we are what make you site. I love this site but sometimes your comments put people down and you need to change that.
  • I am with Daniel. People don't read the article but make some useless remarks.
  • This is a business for him right? Think about it. If someone did not read the article they still gave this site a click which = money. Why would you want to ruin that by putting people down. And does he really expect every damn person to read every article to a tee? If he is unhappy that they are commenting here and not in the forum them just leave it be, the site still got the page click.   And people make useless comments on many other tech sites but I do not see Droid Life or BGR etc... coming on and putting their readers down for dumb comments or not reading the full article.
  • Bro calm down, i didn't take it seriously.. And I know that my comment doesn't makes any sense, because I know its not the actual denim but then too I commented.
  • Your moral compass .....
  • Your comments .. adds some "personality" to this site. Your comments and your attitude reminds me of my college days where we were always be like "Fuck the world!! Fuck you!!  .. yeah I am big time douchebag, do whaterver you can do " :P  
  • lol
  • SMDH. FP.
  • Windows central ? Finally a new name ? ,i got this and it still cyan
  • I updated and got Denium on my Icon, after backing out and restarting it still says Denium. I guess the Icon is never getting an official update. I guess in March when I drop Verizon I'm dropping WP as well. I don't like how as a customer I'm being treated.
  • It's a problem of Verizon not WP , coz international devices get updates really fast , but carriers are just too lazy
  • I am really wondering if MS is as helpless concerning Verizon's shity treatment to WP customers as people claim...
  • Will there be any conference to announce gdr2 ? If there is , I guess we will see a Microsoft branded device ;) hopefully a high end
  • When Lumia denim gona out for my Lumia 1520.
  • Sometime during Q4.
  • "In fact, many people have tipped us after updating to tell they now have the Lumia Cyan update." What?
  • Windows central
  • Hmm..that's funny. Mine STILL says Lumia Black!! Get with it Verizon!!
  • Emerald?
  • Rock & roll denim is coming YEAAAH
  • IF Verizon would respond to inquiries about Cyan with something substantive, like saying that the Cyan update isn't significant enough to justify its distribution when the next update will take care of it, that might be ok. But because Verizon is being anal about it, I will be dropping them and taking my four lines with me. I won't be leaving Windows, but Verizon is dead to me.
  • Good Luck, I'm not that fortunate as the big bully is the only one with decent coverage where I live.
  • Okay, time to roll out Denim MS. PFD users are ready for GDR 2!
  • GDR2? :O
  • Second paragraph, last sentence. Third paragraph too. Denim, not Cyan...
  • Before this update (just after Cyan) my extra+info started to crash on loading. Now it's fixed. It showed "Cyan" at first try.
  • My phone suddenly got Lumia Denim after this update. Is it true? After closing it and open it back still says Lumia Denim.. I'm confused.. +920
  • No, the update has a bug...
  • If that's the case.. I'm ok..
  • Maybe this is Verizon's update for my icon. It will just say cyan now.
  • Does this mean that the Lumia Denim update will get OTA to all lumia devices very soon?
  • Nokia updated to Black, Cyan. No problem. Let Microsoft update for Denim and they screw things. Why is Microsoft like this?
  • does windows phone 8.1 update 1 (GDR1) officially begin for all lumia series?
  • Actually just for 930 now, and out of the box: 730, 735, 830.
  • thanks
  • I have got update 1 two days ago. (Lumia 930 T-Mobile The Netherlands)
  • how does it feel?
  • On track ....
  • Still on Lumia Black :|
  • STILL on Cyan?! I would be Thrilled to be on CYAN no thanks to verizon you worthless "carrier" 
  • Well you're on Verizon, I'm stuck with the Un-carrier TMo. Which I feel sucks worse. No meaningful or useful customer service, robot generated answers, no Info whatsoever and like 30+ threads asking where is Cyan and 8.1 with no useful nor helpful answers.
  • Where is the GDR2 update
  • Right between GDR 1 and GDR 3.
  • Lol
  • I updated but it didn't give me Lumia denim :P it stayed Lumia cyan
  • Windows central*** is the name!!
  • I just got Cyan very recently and i won't believe that i will have Denim so soon... Haha... Must be in months!
  • Denim rollout will starts in two weeks Nokia power user site posted the news one week before still no one giving an article about it : Angry: Also about new WhatsApp update ....u guys seems little lazy now :joke:
  • The Denim rollout dates are all need to post them until we get confirmation and let's keep in mind Microsoft can change its schedule as well
  • Microsoft told rollout started in q4... October 1st to December 31st is 4th quarter...if they are not releasing now then when they are going to release ... Already a denim page is available in nokia conversions site and 930 got update 1.. From this things what we should expect
  • Go Lumia Black!!!!!! Hurry up 925 isn't ancient yet.....
  • Business times UK mentioned that denim will be rolling out between Oct last week and Nov 1st week !!! :-o But may be a rumour!!
  • This update fixed the bug of the setting "closing when i open". Now it's proper and it's showing cyan.. Waiting for the next firmware and the upcoming Update 2
  • -Icon -Verizon (another couple of weeks before +1520)
  • Wait Verizon is getting a 1520??
  • Whats about Lumia 625 still show Lumia amber already got the Lumia cyan but still show amber
  • Yep, updated it and my ICON says Black on it.....WTF Verizon get us Denim...or this is what we will be stuck with forever as Verizon no longer carries the phone...
  • those still on cyan?  i'm still on black!!! 
  • Lets call it Pokemon emerald.
  • I like ruby
  • After updated the Extra+info, both of my Lumia 920 and 1020 shows Denim, if you check on the check box in the Preveiw dev. it'll go back to Cyan
  • I am still on black with my Lumia 928 :-(
  • Verizon.
  • Nokia Lumia 925 T-Mobile on DP got the update and mentions I'm on Lumia black...
  • My Lumia 720 now false denim
  • LOL..... As all are talking about denim,ruby.etc. Am still dreaming about cyan on lumia icon 
  • I noticed that when I click on check for updates after this Extras + Info update, I get the no updates found message.  Pretty used to that on my Icon. BUT.........when I turn Dev Preview back on, I get a long wait time and then a server error message.  I have never seen that and it makes me wonder if something is coming out very soon.
  • Download error pls help
  • Any false sighting updates for any Verizon phones?  Even a false sighting would be something
  • ffff
  • So its finally windows central
  • Finally my extras+info is opening... It used to crash immediately with the previous update. Running DP+Cyan NL920
  • "for those still on cyan." I'm dying. I'm still on black or whatever.
  • Upgraded it on lumia Icon and... Nor by mistake shows another firmware but black. Ahahah, will Microsoft save us some day? Once Verizon put an end to Lumia Icon. I hope MS give us Denim now that Nokia is property of Microsoft.
  • It still shows Lumia cyan on my phone, maybe it's some bug that appears on few phones Posted via WPC app
  • I would say f Verizon but I have two grandfathered unlimited plans which are hard to give up.
  • So to the users who claim they got the Denim update, WP Central says "Na Na Na Na Na"
  • I updated the latest update and It still shows cyan no prob!!!!!!!!
  • After updating its showing Lumia cyan only - Lumia 625 India
  • I'll do the app update just for the momentary thrill of believing I will have denim on my phone now :P
  • so T-Mobile knows nothing of updating handsets smh just waiting to see what Lumia phones we get next year before I make my move
  • My phone is showing LUMIA CYAN . Even I am using DEV preview. Which is on LUMIA BLACK.
  • Same here dude. My DP 925 is showing as having cyan when it is still on black.
  • This means denim update is going to arrive in a few weeks
  • Hey did anyone noticed.,. After the update "Accessories Agent" is missing in extra+ info... Why?
  • For me is still there l1020 dp.8.1.1 cyan
  • I got the Extras+Info update and installed it, got Lumia Denim info, went back to the App again, got the Lumia Denim again, rebooted the phone and still says Lumia Denim! Now What?!!!
  • im wondering the same, mine is still displaying denim also after several restarts, so...
  • 16 MB is too much for just an info app, or does it do more than that?
  • Everyoneare getting tired with Windows ecosystem. Go vote for my suggestion on ---> Here While you are there check for the best suggestions and vote for that suggestion.
  • Woohooo Denim is getting close. I'm a little exciteded like when we were waiting for Mango!
  • Lumia Evergreen
    Lumia Earwax Yellow
  • Lumia Embedded :P
  • Am still on black here unfortunately for me :(
  • I'm waiting
  • I can't wait for Lumia Denim just cuz it has an equalizer built in
  • Does, Denim bring folder option? If so I'm going to quit DP ..
  • Microsoft will skip the letter E ( like they did for windows 10) & use F go on
  • My 520 is showing cyan even after updating
  • I got this update, however my Lumia 928 is still on Black. After installing this update it still registered as Black, so that's good.
  • On Lumia 720 this update makes the Windows lock screen lagging....And presently I have update 1 developer update installed.....If anyone else face the same problem...
  • My lumia 520 still says Lumia Denim after restarting... Lol this is funny, cause I was freaking out until I saw the heading of this article.. so funny.
  • So what features will my 925 and other older devices get in the denim update? Cyan didn't bring anything new even though my 925 has a pureview camera.
  • Is there anybody here that when trying to update extras+info, it stops and doesn't install?
  • I updated but still its Lumia cyan
  • When Revelation Update Denim
  • When I get it in Bangladesh?
  • What is Q4 2014
  • My latest DP phone with Lumia Cyan showing its Denim!
  • Got Lumia denim update today...
  • My Nokia Lumia 1520 extras+info is showing Lumia denim can anyone tell when Lumia camera gona release
  • I just find out that this update is coming this year,it sound like December to me.
  • This problem hasn't been resolved yet has it?  My 920 shows it after a complete system reset (back to default) I exited extras + info, and did a soft reset on the phone, and it still shows Denim.  I'm thinking of selling this phone, but if it is not showing correct information it makes selling it kind of hard.
  • Picked up a second hand Lumia 920 last Saturday afternoon which showed Lumia Cyan as release. Now I just checked extras+info and it now shows Lumia Denim, even after a reboot of the phone. It's a Danish Country Variant Lumia 920, and I'm on Vodafone Netherlands. Build ID ends with 1424.10362 (which is higher than mentioned on the Nokia site)  
  • how is it false? my phone lumia 730 showing extra+info lumia denim.
  • Just got denim on my Lumia 822 on vzw!!!!!
  • I updated the app.....but still Lumia cyan!!
  • I just did a hard reset my Lumia 1520 that was on developer preview to change Microsoft IDs. On setting back up it updated and said Welcome to Lumia Denim. The camera is a little different now and launches faster although I don't see the option to adjust exposure afterwards. Seems like Microsoft might be performing a small rollout. When I compare the camera app its just slightly different. I still need to verify by seeing if I can do 4K recording but I don't see any settings in the camera. At this point in not 100% sure but it looks like this might be legitimate.
  • Microsoft Lumia denim sucks why Lumia 625 not get denim update in India u r really very slow Microsoft
  • Don't expect users to say hurray when denim delivered, not anymore
  • I'm not sure abt dynamic flash customization but the best effect from photos are taken without flash, who is able to keep their eyes open when the flash coming in? Good job Juha.
  • Fake or not but my unlocked dual sim MS Lumia 535 says Denim
  • I experienced this issue, but it keeps taking me I have Denim, even after rebooting and going into Extras & Info. I'm not sure what's going on the article says it only does it the first time
  • Microsoft you just suck off why Lumia 625 did not get Lumia denim I just hate Microsoft