OPPO's new Find N combines Galaxy Fold 3 and Surface Duo 2 concepts into one

Oppo Find N
Oppo Find N (Image credit: OPPO)

What you need to know

  • OPPO has announced the Find N foldable Android phone.
  • The design is like a combo Galaxy Fold 3 and Surface Duo 2.
  • It's only available in China with no plans for the US.

The field of foldable phones is set to grow in the coming years, especially with Android 12L officially ushering in the new era of devices with adaptable displays. Today, China's OPPO has revealed its Find N, which looks like a Samsung Galaxy Fold 3 merged with the broader form factor of Surface Duo 2.

Our colleague in tech, Michael Fisher, aka MrMobile, got his hands on the new device and shared his thoughts about how the design evolves the foldable category.

The Find N, ahem, borrows a lot of similar design language from Samsung and "fixes" a lot wrong with that phone, including its more visible hinge and oddly tall displays.

The Find N features a 7.1-inch 1792 x 1920 (370 PPI) OLED main display featuring an Ultra-Thin Glass layer, a 120Hz refresh rate, and a peak brightness of 1,000 nits. Surface Duo 2, by comparison, has a larger 8.3-inch AMOLED display at a higher 2688 x 1892 resolution (401 PPI) but peaks only at 800 nits.

While the Find N is one giant inner display, with a swipe down from the top, it can split the display into two halves. That's something that Android 12L is expected to formalize in the OS itself instead of relying on OEM hacks to force it.

You can't reverse-fold the Find N for single-screen mode, either, but you don't need to as there is a 60Hz 5.49-inch OLED cover display, which can always be accessed.

The similarity to Surface Duo comes in is how much more expansive this phone is compared to Samsung's. It's not as broad as Surface Duo's dual displays but is, instead, somewhere in between the two of them. That makes it perhaps better for video and gaming. Still, you won't see as much content on each screen (when divided) compared to Microsoft's concept, which more closely resembles a moleskin notebook.

There are a few tradeoffs, however, as well compared to Microsoft's concept.

There is no apparent pen support for the OPPO Find N, which is something that Microsoft is leaning more into as Surface Duo 2 (and Android) progresses. But Samsung has added the S Pen to the Galaxy Fold 3, so it is possible. However, questions remain about long-term durability due to the softness of the foldable screen (the Find N's is manufactured by Samsung).

Source: OPPO (Image credit: Source: OPPO)

The Find N is also substantially thicker than Surface Duo 2, coming in at nearly 16mm instead of Microsoft's much leaner 11mm. Most of that is because OPPO squished the design is more brick-like than spread out like Microsoft.

Both devices are not light, coming in at 275 grams for the Find N and 284 grams for Surface Duo 2, likely due to Microsoft's use of Corning Gorilla Glass on four panels instead of OPPO's use on just one.

Pricewise, the OPPO Find N comes in cheaper at 7,699 yuan (about $1,210) for 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage, compared to Surface Duo 2's starting price of $1,499 for 128GB of storage and 8GB of RAM.

The real kicker: The OPPO Find N is only for China, with the company having no plans to bring it to the US or other markets. However, OnePlus, which often appropriates designs from OPPO, is now a sub-brand of the latter. That means Western markets may get a similar device later in 2022 should OnePlus take up the challenge.

Surface Duo 2 Inking Outlook

Source: Daniel Rubino / Windows Central (Image credit: Source: Daniel Rubino / Windows Central)

Overall, the OPPO Find N is a welcomed addition to this new form factor for phones and mobile devices. Whether the design is better or worse depends on preference, which is how the market should work for these devices, akin to single-screen phones and the sheer variety there. (Microsoft claims, via its own unpublished research, that users prefer dual screens for productivity, and electroencephalogram (EEG) data reportedly backed this up.)

Hopefully, we'll see even more in 2022 from other OEMs as Android 12L becomes a reality.

Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Editor-in-chief of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft since 2007 when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, laptops, next-gen computing, and for some reason, watches. Before all this tech stuff, he worked on a Ph.D. in linguistics, watched people sleep (for medical purposes!), and ran the projectors at movie theaters because it was fun.

  • This is what I wish the Surface Duo was. That front screen makes all the difference!!
    For Duo to gain wider (not just niche) adoption, I really think a front screen on the next iteration of Duo is a MUST. I think only diehards would be willing to deal with compromises, partly for the sake of brand loyalty (which is fine - do you)
    Having a phone that you have to open up (yes, I know you can have it folded so that the screens are always exposed, but how many people do/are willing to do that on a $1500 device?) to see who called you feels not very innovative.
    In its current iteration, for me, it can't be anything more than a companion device. I want to see this device do well but sometimes I'm not sure if Microsoft feels the same.
  • See, I think the OPPO design is great, but I like how when I close Surface Duo, it's closed. No distractions. Not to mention, to get three screens on Duo's design, it'll have to get substantially thicker to accommodate the display and the necessary larger battery. I hope MS keeps Duo design as is and OnePlus brings this to the US, so everyone can get what they want.
  • Same!! Proves that MS is on the right track. Good point about the screens & device thickness. The N is already a leading contender for the horse awards (Kanye reference). It's thiccc.
    As an owner of the O.G. Duo (at full retail - ouch lol). I see how great the Duo can be. I really believe that it can be a transformative device (get the software right, if not a front screen -add more functionality to the notification spine).
    Maybe that's what's so frustrating to me about the Duo - the 10-15% that they still need to tighten up. The unrealized, as of yet, the promise of the device is tantalizing.
    They're sooooo close... Also, thanks for replying. Despite your self-described curmudgeon status, you seem pretty cool.
  • "Maybe that's what's so frustrating to me about the Duo - the 10-15% that they still need to tighten up."
    I agree, that's a large part. Duo 2 is getting quite good, though. We'll see where it goes in 2022.
    "Also, thanks for replying. Despite your self-described curmudgeon status, you seem pretty cool."
    lol, thanks. I do appreciate and love talking to the community here and elsewhere. I tend to learn a lot that way.
  • I enjoy the community, although some of the members can be a bit of a force lol. Thanks for all the work that you & the team do - it is definitely appreciated.
  • I agree, I don't mind opening mine to check notifications and love my Duo for business use... Would hate to have to go back to a slab... The thiness of the design is what gives the Duo a classy premium feel... I really am torn between the form factors of my Fold 3 and my Duo...
  • I agree. I think this is the ideal foldable, apart from the fact that it's a Chinese phone. A normal smartphone that also unfolds to be a larger tablet. I like the idea of the Duo with the Surface Pen, but the other drawbacks of the Duo form factor are enough to drive me away. The single large screen with a digital bezel alone is enough of an advantage that I'd buy this over a Duo even without the pen support. And while the idea of the Duo being "done" when you close it, sounds tempting, it's something I'd find myself getting annoyed with in daily use when I just want to type out a quick reply to an email or text (and no, leaving the phone flipped 360 open is not a solution).
  • Hanley the racist doesn't realise the phone he uses now more than likely came from China 🤣
  • Aldo, preferring to reduce the share of profits that go to China, where they will be used to move against Taiwan and the U.S., China, a country that manipulates currency to keep the cost of its exports down by forcibly suppressing wages of its own people, a country that is engaged in genocide of groups within its own borders... No, that's not racist. Maybe it's anti-Communist, or pro-Taiwan and pro-Uyghur, but it's not racist. Samsung is Korean. Sony is Japanese. Great companies that are not pawns of the Chinese government and its aggressive military.
  • It truly frustrates me when I see these China-bashing and -hating talks, increasingly on Windows Central. It does not disturb me if you know what you're talking about, showing that you actually have double-checked the facts with those coming from China, or you've been to the country at least to confirm what you've heard. Otherwise, it's not any more elegant than Communist propaganda. Yes, I live inside China and I am brainwashed by the CCP if you wish to say so, but at least I am aware of that - and you, immersed in the Western media, don't seem to have the self-awareness that there might also be biased or false information on your trusted sources, about a country your government perceived as "strategic competitor".
  • XZ LU, always happy to engage in an agreeable disagreement. :-) Debate is one of the best ways both to learn and to expose faults in logic (my own or that of others). I have ZERO criticism for you or any of the Chinese people (there are many great Chinese people living here in the U.S. who are so happy to have escaped Communist rule). Even if you don't mind that your government is harming you or your friends or neighbors who may hold different opinions by constraining free speech, don't mind the genocide against the Uyghurs (as long as that's only because you don't have all the facts due to the lack of free speech and not because you also want them exterminated -- genocide is NEVER acceptable because even if the persecuted group have many criminals, there is much less about one's heritage that determines that person's behavior than the choices that person makes -- arrest the criminals, take preventative actions to stop terrorism if needed, but don't persecute an ethnic group for the actions of a subset), don't mind your earnings being reduced because the government keeps the Yuan devalued making all your imports more expensive, none of those are your fault. I respect anybody looking out for the success of their own country. At the same time, I hope you can appreciate that as long as your government protects or sponsors intellectual property theft from U.S. companies, funds political strife within the U.S. in an effort to divide and weaken us, threatens to invade an important ally (Taiwan), supports North Korea's nuclear ambitions, and through dozens of similar activities generally makes the world a more dangerous, less free place, I will seek to avoid my dollars going to China to the extent reasonably possible. If there's a product made in China for 80% off the US equivalent, I'd probably buy the one made in China, but if it's only 15% less, then I'm buying the U.S. or Japanese, or Taiwanese or Canadian or Mexican version, because those countries are much better allies to us than China.
  • "It truly frustrates me when I see these China-bashing and -hating talks", its important to note that people do not necessarily bash China as a country (culture, tradition, history etc.) or their people but their government, which is fair criticism I think (see below). "immersed in the Western media, don't seem to have the self-awareness", actually lots of american comedians have the freedom to bash america's government without being put into jail, that is an important distinction with the Chinese government. I would even go as far that with the US two political party system (which also has many issues) almost always 50% of the population actively criticizes their government.
  • "Hanley the racist doesn't realise the phone he uses now more than likely came from China", you seem to forget that the phone also comes with software. If you buy a chinese phone, chances are big you buy something with either a chinese os or chinese skin for google android. Eg some xiaomi phones (perhaps maybe all nowadays) come with ads in the os (which can also bring privacy issues and possible even opportunities for malware, depending on how implemented).
  • lack of Duo front screen is no more inconvenient than having a regular phone in a wallet-case
  • Which a lot of people, myself included, do not do...
  • Fuzzy, I would say it's even more convenient than that, because you could keep the Duo folded open all the time just like a single-screen phone without a case, in which case the only downside to a regular single-screen phone is that the camera is not instantly accessible (because it's between the two halves).
  • The notifications and seeing who is calling is what the SmartWatch is for. No need to open up the device to see it.
  • I do not want to downgrade my watch to a smartwatch...
  • lol... how is a smartwatch a downgrade?
  • "lol"? Because I prefer my classic watches to a smartwatch? De gustibus non disputandum est...
  • Well, an ugly digital plastic watch is a lot cheaper than a real, classic metal, sapphire, and possibly leather watch. Smartwatches top out at a few hundred dollars. That's about the bottom of the barrel floor for classic watches. Not saying old-school watches are better, but to the extent price corresponds to value, then yes, a smartwatch would definitely be a downgrade from even a fairly low-end classic watch. On aesthetics, clearly a matter of opinion, but I think all smartwatches, even Apple's (which I think does use a sapphire lens), looks cheap. Fine for going to the gym, maybe starting to become acceptable for a business meeting simply because tech is cool, but if it's a business meeting with finance people and bankers, I'd still stick with the classic. The smartwatch would be like a woman showing up wearing bright plastic earrings like kids wear in junior high. Functionally, I don't use a smartwatch because I don't want to take my watch off my wrist. I don't take it off to go to bed or to shower, so anything that forces me to do that daily would de a functional downgrade to me, at least on that facet of its use. Too much of a PITA for me, but I admit, I'd probably get used to that pretty fast if I ever did try a smartwatch.
  • I never have to look at my phone to answer a call. I just tap my hearing aid and say hello. Hearing aids and other earpieces become increasingly useful and integrated with phones. Hearing aids are expensive ($2500 for a pair). So I guess I should get an extra layer of utility in using smart phones.
  • p51, I know wanting a front screen is a matter of opinion and personal preference, so different people will have different views on this, but I think the only reason Samsung does this is because it can't fold open like the Duo. I find it to be a hacky solution due to the limitations of its foldable single screen -- a limitation the Duo does not have. If Samsung could make their single screen fold around in the other direction too, like the Duo does, I believe they'd drop that extraneous screen in a heartbeat.
  • Valid points! Also, I still haven’t seen or held a phone that feels as premium as the Duo. Home run by MS.
    Wanting a front screen is definitely a personal presence. For me, a front screen makes a device much more productive as an “on the go” device. Without a front screen, Duo is a much more intentional device. If I get a notification or message, I am more deliberate in how/when/where I interact with the notification. It takes me out of my normal flow & becomes more of a hinderance than a benefit. If I’m already stationary or sitting down then that issue is, for the most part, a non-issue.
    Also, I don’t want to HAVE to purchase, wear, & manage an additional accessory (smartwatch) to get basic functionality (in my opinion) from my device.
    All that said, I still have my Duo 1 & really enjoy it a ton…but as a secondary device. I’m interested to see what changes Duo 3 will bring, but without some type of visible actionable screen on the front, I don’t know how Duo moves out of niche device territory. I want this device to win. I want there to be a Duo 4, 5, 6 etc. I just don’t think that we, the niche enthusiasts, will be enough to carry the day. Greater adoption is going to require some concessions.
  • I think the fact that Duo opens fully all the way around makes the external screen not applicable. The Duo is a related but different device and needs to be seen that way. The thing is, Microsoft needs to make Duo 2 as productive as possible by expanding the functionality of the spine notification area when closed by letting ALL possible apps take advantage of it. They also need to allow for scrolling messages, previews, and all that.
  • The aspect ratio looks sweet, at least not as unusually tall and narrow aspect ratio on Samsung Galaxy Fold3 when closed. Even inside, the Oppo seems to be more wider screen than Samsung that is more square. Shame though that no pen support for this. I find folding phones not having pen support is a huge miss for that larger canvas. This is where Surface Duo and new Fold3 wins.
  • Terrible name, interesting concept.
  • Not for me but maybe the wife. I'd really like something closer to 8in when open like Mate Xs.
  • That gesture split screen feature is cool. It made me think what if all the features of surface duo are implemented on foldables with clever software implementation? Thanks to hinge & external screen, all the postures of surface duo are possible on device like oppo find n.
    What's remain to seen is multitasking behavior.if it is possible to command device like oppo find n to behave exactly like surface duo then that would be ideal path to follow for future surface duos as well when durability of plastic screens is good enough.
  • Regarding external screen on surface duo I would like to say that It's foolish to have big external screen on surface duo as it can fold 360 degrees but it's dumb to not to have even a small external screen like galaxy z flip 2 or moto razer on surface duo. Think about it what's better, a small external display which allows to be able to instantly see and decide whether a call or a message is worthy to attend or current situation in which user always live in suspense of not knowing caller or messenger til the surface duo is not unfolded. I can't understand the people who are defending lack of external screen on duo by saying "I love how when i close the device I am done with it" Or " Get a smartwatch ". IMO these comments are equivalent to Apple's famous antenna gate defense " You are holding it wrong way".
  • "I can't understand the people who are defending lack of external screen on duo ..."
    Let me put it this way: You'll often find people who like this design execution are people who own and use Surface Duo. Those who are often against it, don't. Now, of course, that's not across the board, as there are people who own one and who agree with you, but it's also true that a lot of people who use it are totally fine with it and prefer the design. I own the Z Flip 3 (and original Z Flip). The external display is nice, but it's not game-changing. I actually find the Z Flip more cumbersome to use than Duo for notification management due to how they open. Moreover, as noted above, in order for MS to add an external display, it will have to go from 4.8mm (Surface Duo ) to 5.5mm (Surface Duo 2) to something much higher for both the screen and the larger battery. These actions have consequences on design. See just how thick the OPPO is for reference (it's 5mm thicker). Don't forget, when at a desk or not in use, you can just leave Duo either open in dual screens (there is now "raise to wake" to light up the display) or leave it in one-handed mode (reverse folded). It's quite common to see people using a stand at a desk for the Duo to leave it open (I do this), no different than how iPhone users have a stand-up Qi charger so they can glance at incoming notifications. (There are a lot of Qi chargers for the iPhone now that use MagSafe to hold the phone vertically for this purpose, it's great). A lot of people also use a smartwatch for notification management, which is exactly why people love the Apple Watch so much. You can't understand opening a device to check notifications, well, there's a lot of people who think it's just as dumb to pull a phone out of your pocket only to find an eBay update instead of twisting their wrist. It's all relative.
  • Someone should do a quick write-up on using a smartwatch with a Surface Duo. The lack of an external screen is mitigated by having a tiny screen on your wrist to view notifications and do basic replies.
  • justjun555, my argument against the external screen is that it adds weight and thickness (and cost of course, but arguably at the Duo's price, it should have every possible bolted on option), but adds close to zero value. The phone folds all the way open and can happily stay in that mode all the time. Even with the camera bump, it's still thin enough to go in your pocket when folded around to fully open (maybe not ideally in tight jeans, where the Duo 1 fit in tight jeans nicely, but in anything else, it's still thin enough for a pocket). If you want an always on front display to see incoming notifications, just flip the Duo around and leave it that way. You get all the benefits of an additional screen (or a single-screen phone) without the compromises Samsung had to accept.
  • Agreed, an external screen on the Duo seems to have more cons than pros. I would prefer MS focusing on other important things like price and camera.
  • The foldable phone concept is still in its early stages. A full external screen is an eventual necessity. I’d like to see TWO hinges/three screens – accordion style. I’m sure companies are working on it. I hope 2022 is the year.
  • Ecafrus, OK, now that's a possible valid use for a third screen -- an accordion foldable phone, with one screen always on the outside. Interesting. I don't know that's needed, because the combined screen space of the Duo seems sufficient, but if we could get to a third screen one day without being any thicker than the Duo 2, and able to go to a seamless form like the Fold (so the best of the Duo and of the Fold combined) why not!
  • Microsoft needs to cut the price of their budget form factor in half. Adding a second screen doesn’t cost $900 when compared to a Pixel 6.
  • That OPPO phone looks like a dream. I really like the concept even with the thickness. What I do find humorous is the defense between this design and the DUO. Had Microsoft designed this phone those who love the DUO would be loving this phone. Sure, they would have complaints about photos, but they would love this phone (I strongly believe that. Some may disagree.). But because it's not Microsoft who designed this phone or brought this phone to market, now we must dig our heels in to try to justify why one or the other is better. Or why one is not as good. They are both good in their own way. But I certainly can live with the OPPOs thickness to get a real notification center and a very USEFUL front screen. Wow! & Wow! These are all pluses. What's so great about this is, it's that this is the first iteration. Meaning that this phone will most likely only get better over time. This is so good for competition and future designs.