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Rumors claim Microsoft has a big launch event in NYC for October

There are new, but still unconfirmed, reports, that Microsoft is planning to hold a big press event sometime in October in New York City. The reports claim this is when the company will reveal numerous upcoming hardware products, including its two new Lumia flagship phones with Windows 10 Mobile, along with the Surface Pro 4 tablet, the Microsoft Band 2 fitness device and maybe more.

The rumors were first reported by WPDang, and ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley stated later that her contacts at Microsoft have heard similar things. Previously, our editor-in-chief Daniel Rubino heard through his own sources that Microsoft might hold a press event in September to reveal its rumored "TalkMan" and "CityMan" flagship smartphones, also labeled as the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL in the media. The October event was to be for the Surface Pro 4 and Microsoft Band 2. It's possible that the company has made some adjustments in its plans and might have decided to launch all of their big upcoming hardware devices in one event.

WPDang also reports that Microsoft might announce a "Xbox One Mini," a slimmer version of the Xbox One game console, during the October press event. However, so far, other reports don't seem to corroborate this part of the rumors. The Verge and ZDNet speculate that Microsoft might reveal some other hardware devices that will have the Surface brand name, but again there's nothing firm on this front yet.

In any case, keep in mind that Microsoft has not confirmed any of these rumors, so take all of them with the appropriate amount of salt. The only thing the company has announced is plans to hold a Windows 10-based third-party hardware event during the IFA trade show in Berlin on September 4.

For more on what may come with the Surface Pro 4 and Band 2 including specs and launch details, watch our #AskDanWindows episodes:

AskDanWindows Episode 5 - Surface Pro 4 {.cta}

AskDanWindows Episode 2 - Band 2 news

Source: WPDang, ZDNet, The Verge

214 Comments
  • Waiting for a Surface Lite announce for emergent markets
  • Don't hold your breathe.
  • Where did this come from?? Surface "lite"?
  • It's my hope, that microsoft someday launch a budget version
  • Do you mean more budget than the Surface 3? Microsoft can't go cheaper without build quality suffering. Then the product wouldn't be worthy of the Surface name. There are many,many cheaper alternatives with W10.
  • I think there's room for a premium 7"-8" Surface tablet, and I would expect it to cost substantially less than Surface 3.
  • But that sounds more like a "Surface Mini" (that already "exists," was going to be announced with the Surface Pro 3, but got cancled right before) more than a "Surface Lite."
  • Dell Venue 8 Pro already exists... about the most premium, low-end you'll get (I bought one for $250). Surface line not required at that level with S3 and SP3 covering mid and top-end respectively.
  • I think the Surface Pro is the budget version. If you are expecting something like a 100 - 200 tab then you are never going to get it.
  • That is a big drop.. I would think something around $299...
  • Generic Best Buy tablet is about all that will get. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • The product your looking for is the Surface Phone, which will be at least 6 inches.  With pen support, ability to run the full applications in continuum mode, etc. The Surface 3 is the bottom for the tablet market, the Surface Phone will be the top of the mobility market.
  • IMO, if MS were going to release a Surface lite, it would just go with "Surface Phone" at this point of time. which would be small and powerful with phn capabilities. That's what i would do, if i was MS. Also, Dell, HP, ASUS, Lenovo, Toshiba, .......all have really great and very inexpensive, and very good quality mini tablets, if you really want 7 or 8 inch Windows tablets. You can also get a Mini Bluetooth keyboard with a case, that makes those tablets looking like Surface Mini when you have them together.  Take a look at this Toshiba 8 inch Windows tablet with the case I'm talking about. almost like a Surface?? let me know what you think:(click all the pictures on the left side of the screen) http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-WT8-B32CN-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/...
  • Hey MS, whatever surface products you release from now on please release it in the Indian market too..we are waiting eagerly and pleading you.
  • Already surface products available in India to grab if you want one!!
  • Pray, where is it available??? Don't tell me it's on snap deal at a bloated ridiculous price...
  • Well there is the regular Surface if that's what you mean but I'm not sure about its availability outside the States.
  • Hate the idea of this Xbox One Slim version.
  • And I like it, stuff is getting smaller as the years progress.
  • Hmm... My Xbox One is still the same size as the day I bought it.
  • My question is why wasn't the original Xbox one a slim Xbox one? Lol Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Because- heat management... The ps4 doesn't manage heat as well as tr Xbox and The fan on the PS4 runs very loudly. Instead of that Xbox uses more space and runs like 10o cooler without noise
  • But hasn't there been a slim version of both these consoles in the past? What I'm getting at, is that they are capable of designing these things to be slimmer, but choose to go with a bigger/bulkier design at launch, and save the slim version for a later release instead. I'm sure everyone would prefer a slimmer design to be the initial launch product. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Slim versions usually occur after there is a reduction in die size/heat.
  • Don't wait for any product made by Microsoft..... There is no innovation.... Even if any new feature is added, it comes with a shit load of bugs.....u can definitely wait for an apple or Android
  • I think you are on the wrong train.. :D
  • Thank you for providing my afternoon entertainment. Now please go rehearse for the next comedy routine.
  • Lol, you're obviously trolling, but I'm bored so I'll bite. Where's the innovation from Apple, they haven't innovated anything ever. And Androids bugs, espeically the one that can brick your phone and is apparently difficult to fix, outnumber windows mobile. WM may be far from perfect, but I'll take it over the other 2 anyday.
  • A shit load of bugs you say? Evidence of this? Having supported and defened Apple for the best part of about 7 years, I'm letting go and moving on. Nothing they have done recently has been overly exciting, and nothing upcoming is going to be either IMO. I've ditched my iPad Air 2 for a Surface 3, which I'm liking far more, and does a shitload more, and I'm currently using a Lumia 640XL, which I actually prefer over my iPhone 6 Plus. I'll stick to the Surface, but I'm waiting to see what the next Windows phones are like, and how W10M goes once it's released. Sure it's buggy now, but it's pre release software, anyone that wants to bag it for the bugs it has now shouldn't be using it. The idea is to identify bugs and report them so they can be fixed, not bitch about them. 8.1 on my 640 runs fine and gives me no trouble. If the upcoming hardware and/or software are a let down, I'll be resigned to getting the next iPhone when my contract ends in a few months. Hopefully that's not the case because I want to switch to Windows Mobile. Samsung destroyed any interest I had in Android, I won't be giving it a second thought, ever. October is going to be an interesting month if this event eventuates.
  • "I'm currently using a Lumia 640XL, which I actually prefer over my iPhone 6 Plus." I have a friend that went from iPhone6 to Lumia 640XL as well. You could not pay her to go back. :)
  • Go home, you're drunk
  • Forgot to take your meds right?
  • Hopefully the rumored Surface phone is a part of these announcements.
  • Very unlikely.  It would take momentum away from the City / Talkman announcement.  Also, probably not close enough to being ready for an announcement.
  • Agreed.  I am torn between upgrading my aged L920 (Launch Day purchase still going strong!) to one of the Lumia Flagships to be released in November, or to wait into early 2016 for the Surface Phone.....#Decisions #FirstWorldProblems
  • I've bought a used Lumia 930 to replace my 1020 (got it at UK launch) rather than getting the 950XL I'd planned on getting as a contract renewal in November (or whenever it's out after then) I figure the 930 is a lot faster than the 1020 and a nice upgrade so is plenty to hold me over until later in 2016 personally. In the meantime I can go SIM only and save about 50% on my monthly bill until I really feel like I need another upgrade. Usually I'd be straight into a new 24 month contract to get the latest phone like I did with the 1020....must be getting more sensible when it comes to phones (Still "need" that 4th monitor for my PC setup though heh)
  • for once, the international market has better optoins than the US consimers do. For AT&T customers inthe US, its the ridiculously large 1520 or the el-crapo camera HTC M8. 930 is perfect for many, god knows why they decided to exclude the AT&T LTE bands from it.
  • Probably because it was a Verizon exclusive.
  • Same here!
  • I am happy with my international version of 735. Now I have to wait for popular iOS and Android app conversions. Never buy another U.S. Carrier Windows phone locked phone.
  • I've said in the past 2016 Q2. That is its status, not earlier.
  • That's too long of a wait for me. My L925 is not getting the job done anymore, and its camera quality continues to disappoint. Guess I'm grabbing a 940XL.
  • I agree, More often than not it's best to just get what you need when you need it (within reason, I.e I wouldn't buy a brand new £300-£400 Lumia right now) Holding out for something in Q2 2016 doesn't make sense If you need something now...otherwise you'd always be waiting for the next "version" of things
  • MS needs to launch some phones before Apple
  • That's an interesting statement... Correct me if I'm wrong, but Samsung has released two major Flagship phones in the time between us waiting for a new Flagship from M$.
  • Wait....so the Surface phone is another phone that isn't the Cityman or Talkman?  It's a 3rd phone?  Why?  ....  what's the difference. Edit:  i Just researched it.  Wow another phone..  similar specs.  but this one might have a pen.  Neat.
  • I heard the 940XL will have a pen.. Or at least will have pen support.
  • The rumored surface phone is supposedly more than just a pen. It's rumored to have an x86 processor in it, which allows for regular desktop programs to be loaded and launched on it.
  • Windows 10 Mobile doesn't have support for Win32 apps.
  • I haven't seen anything credible saying that a phone with an x86 processor in it will have Windows Mobile 10 on it. Wouldn't make much sense to add the processor and not reap the benefits of it.
  • Then you haven't read the new device OS regulations from Microsoft. Anything up to 7.99" will come with Windows 10 Mobile SKU.
  • A) we don't have a definitive size of the device in question
    B) there's nothing stopping Microsoft from bending their own rules
  • Both of these phones are obsolete right out of the gate with only three gigs of ram (both galaxy note 5 and edge  plus both sport 4 gigs of ram each not to mention a wide angle front facing camera.) I already own th1520. I'll pass and wait to see what happens with the Surface Phone.
  • Why does it need 4 gigs of ram? I'm not even sure what I would do with that. I think 3GB of ram will be plenty for Windows 10 Mobile which runs much better on lower hardware than Android does. Plus for the record the 950 and 950xl should have a wide angle front camera too, so not sure how that's a positive towards galaxy note 5 or s6 edge+. Also neither of those Samsung devices have a card slot or removable battery (at least current info on gsmarena states this, although s6 edge+ the card is listed as to be confirmed). If you ask me, that is way more important than 1GB of extra ram. Not to mention the main camera of the 950 and 950xl are way better than any of the Samsung phones.
  • 4GB of RAM is obsolete too if you're just throwing out numbers. There's a big diffrence between putting in the RAM you will use and throwing RAM in to boost numbers. Both of those phones are going to be superior to the 1520, that I would imagine is showing signs of wear, especially with a non-replacable battery.
  • Not necessarily.   The iPhone 6 still runs fine on 1gb of RAM, and is only rumored to go up to 2gb this September with the new launch phones.
  • That's like saying in 2007 that the iPhone was obsolete because PCs and Macs had 4 GB of RAM and the iPhone didn't. In other words, that is a stupid thing to say.
  • With all respect to Samsung, but I think Windows Phone despite being less popular than Android, runs faster on less RAM. I'm pretty sure Cityman and Talkman with 3GB of RAM will have very similar performance tests than the Note 5 or S6 Edge Plus.
  • A Surface phone + Band 2 would have me diverting my direct deposit on payday directly to Microsoft's account.
  • I'm... so with you. I'm ready to submit my papers to payroll right now....
  • Where does people get this fabled "Surface phone" concept from??? Who came up with this highly unlikely idea?
  • Windows Central...Bing is your friend.
  • Excellent...
  • Nice way to launch a new flagship Microsoft store, release a tonne of products on opening day.
  • Indian tech news is covering this from the evening. Hope to see a flagship.
  • You are being racist
  • I don't understand what any of you two mean.
  • it rly is a different world over there
  • Uhh, what?
  • Waiting patiently for an Intel-based phone. I would be interested in a Band 2 if its less bulky and waterproof.
  • How would it be any different than a Qualcomm based phone? You still can't run Win32 apps.
  • Probably the perfect continuum device...?
  • Why wouldn't you be able to run Win32 apps? They run fine on all those cheap windows tablets. This would make continuum even more compelling.
  • You wouldn't know until it's out, but an intel based Phone is unlikely to run a Windows 10 SKU that supports Win32 apps
  • +950
    Especially because it would mean it uses a different release of Windows 10 Mobile, which leads to the fragmentation they supposedly are moving away from.
  • Any Intel proccessor for mobility will be x86-64.  Kinda misses the point if they don't allow the Win32 runtime.  Too much evidence to support that likelihood and the alternative is too illogical.  If it says Surface, it's going to run Win32.
  • Stranger things have happened. The main thing is the Windows 10 Mobile SKU doesn't at this time support Win32 as far as we know, and the desktop SKUs don't support making phone calls in devices that allow a SIM card as far as I know, it would end up being some sort of hybrid SKU. We will just have to wait and see, but there have been phones with Intel processors in the past, they just didn't run Windows. I'm just not convinced it will run Win32 apps, there are so many reasons not to do it (I can also see the advantages with continuum). I'm not saying it couldn't run apps from the store built for x86/x64 but Win32 seems unlikely IMO. I look forward to October to find out.  
  • Usually a processor is chosen for features, and Qualcomm was the best choice till recently.
  • Yea, you'd be able to run Win32 but at the cost of battery life. I'd prefer they just go with a high-end Snapdragon that offers the same performance for less power and leave x86 to tablets.
  • Windows 10 Mobile can't run Win32 apps. Not to mention that Win32 apps suck battery and touch interfaces.
  • You're correct. But this will be good for enterprise companies. VS have a tool that can convert Win32 app into a UI that is designed for touch (phones)
  • What if the phone has a switch mechanism like ASUS Trio (remember in 2014 a Windows 8.1 device which could switch to Android by pressing 1 button? ) , and the desktop version of Windows 10 only gets activated when its attached to desktop hardware (monitor, keyboard, mouse). I think for this to happen, this phone needs to get at least 64GB of storage so you can install desktop software when you use it as a PC.
  • I still the first band was a trial version. A prototype for what's to come.
  • Yes it was definitely a testbed product as well as the awesomely awesome awesomeness that they are licencing every aspect of it.  In that essence, it is a reference product for other OEM's to build off of.
  • check out my concept for the UI/UX of  the Microsoft Band 2 : https://www.behance.net/gallery/27663369/Microsoft-Band-2-UXUI-Concept
  • That looks REALLY good guy!
  • Thanks! :) Don't forget to share!
  • That looks amazing and would deffinatly be a game changer for smart bands and even full smartwatches if the UI actually ends up that good.
  • Thanks man! Feel free to share it so that we can some of these ideas to Microsoft's design team! :)
  • Awesome.  And amazing that aside from the Lumia phones, there haven't been many leaks on the other devices...
  • Pretty excited.  Hope to get some more leaks on SP4.  I know they'd like for it to be a surprise, but I can make my purchasing decision sooner based on what is available.
  • Some websites are telling it won't come with Intel Core M, which is great news, going the route of Intel Core M would be like a downgrade from Surface Pro 3. Premium devices like Surface Pro, should never downgrade on next generation, they should always upgrade the specs.
  • If Microsoft announces the Surface mini. October will be an expensive month. - flagship phone
    - band 2
    - surface mini
  • Possibility that a new phone is announced and immediately available = 0.
  • We can always hope!
  • I have been waiting for the Surface Mini since Microsoft released the Surface Pro 3 instead of the Mini. I want the Surface Mini to be an 8" tablet running Windows 10 with 128gb of storage, microsd card slot that will support at least a 128gb card, 2 or 4 gb of ram and active pen. I am willing to pay for it. I do not know if I want the current standard usb port or the newer usb port.
  • "I do not know if I want the current standard usb port or the newer usb port." No worries; I'm sure Microsoft will check with us before they decide which way they're going with this. :-) I'm not sure which way I'd want this either. My next phone will probably have USB C, but I don't yet know how practical it will be. I guess I'll find out! We sure give Apple lots of trash talk for doing it, but at least this would be the new standard, not the new Apple standard.
  • USB-C is compatible in a protocol sense to USB 3.0.  https://www.windowscentral.com/e?link=https2F2Fc%... The Surface 3 is 10.8 Inches.  It's already quite small and has everything you are requesting.  I can't fit an 8 inch screen in my pocket...so I don't see it as a product that fits in their lineup.  Microsoft is focusing on much fewer devices across price points.  Other niche's will be filled by OEM's.  Look for Dell to create some pretty epic products around Win10.
  • An 8 inch will fit in my purse, a 10 inch will not. An 8 inch is lighter than a 10 inch and I can use it one handed in landscape mode.
  • Is it possible to watch your sodium intake while reading this site?
  • Sodium intake on Windows Central is still far lower than most other Windows news sites. Either way, maybe WC should take this as a suggestion to check sodium levels using the Band 2 sensors. ;-)
  • Hello DC! :)
  • Oh boy am I excited!
  • Hold onto your butts!
  • This news is to good to be true.
  • *too
  • *also
  • ... no
  • @SACRIFICE_84:
    Can't share your enthusiasm here.
    So far Microsoft has not delivered anything but promises and what I saw so far about Windows 10 Mobile (Software: bland, Hardware: on-screen buttons on a flagship device, really?) is disappointing so far.
    So until Microsoft shows what they really have in store and finally overdelivers on expectations (instead of the usual overpromise and underdeliver), I'll curb my enthusiasm.
  • Haha, I think you want the next iPhone...it's supposed to turn into a jet and fly you places.
  • @desaideas1:
    It's a difference if people outside of a company (fanboys, analysts,...) overpromise without knowing anything or if the company in question itself (in this case Microsoft) overpromises in full knowledge of the facts, which will lead to them underdelivering, AGAIN!
  • So, nothing for September 4... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • My guess is that the September event will be all about 3rd party devices, and Microsoft would not want to steal their thunder, since if those companies win, Microsoft wins along with them.
  • If you're in the market for a new laptop, tablet or 2-1 device I'd say there will be a lot to offer. Stay tuned...
  • It'd be a bad decision if MS announced an Xbox One slim as the Halo 5 edition releases.
  • Yeah, Xbox releases don't happen on this stage, always at E3.  I'm not expecting Microsoft to launch a slim version until they test out the market of the $150 Pro controller.  If they strike a chord with the hardcore market, it's much more likely that we will see an Xbox One Pro, with updated graphics to handle 4K gaming.
  • Not to sound like a jerk, but there is pretty much absolutely zero chance of this happening. Console makers don't fragment their install base in the middle of a hardware cycle by introducing an "Xbox One.5" that can run advanced games which owners of "Original Xbox One" can't access. Just bad business, and it's not going to happen. Remember the sins of the Sega CD and 32X... Meanwhile, streamlined versions of existing consoles, taking advantage of tech advancements to offer identical experiences while shaving production costs and allowing for reduced retail price points, happen routinely throughout a given console's lifespan. In the previous generation, both Xbox 360 and PS3 saw no fewer than two such refreshes each.
  • It is going to be a bad decision smh.
  • It's too bad the phones don't appear to be releasing before the iPhone.
  • Well the iPhone is being released next month so no. But if(and this is likely) Apple offers the 16gb version as the base model before the 64 and 128gb configurations, some people(not the diehards or those who don't know) will figure that into their decision to upgrade or not. The door has never been as wide open as it is now for Microsoft to succeed. The 950/950XL offer some valuable features of the whole Android lineup of this year besides a few like LG and the new iPhones. And an improved maybe f 1.9-8 sensor with all the speed improvements of having newer chips and more RAM will be amazing(I'm speculating). This is Microsoft's year going forward.
  • Regardless of of the standard storage size of the iPhone, it will always be non removable, the same goes for the battery, based on that, it's a no sale for me. I just hope the rumours of the 950/talkman having an SD card slot is true, as that's a huge selling point for me. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Slightly off-topic but I don't think the door has ever been more open than now too especially with all of Android's security flaws coming out in the past month.  The whole "receive a text and get hacked" flaw, plus Google's inability to issue a proper fix for that and a couple other major flaws is something that unfortunately MS can't capitalize on at the moment...
  • I don't care what the iPhone does or doesn't do tbh.
  • MJF's band 2 intel differs from what Dan reported previously. According to her, band 2 will still come without windows 10 core. Or maybe I misinterpreted it.
  • Yeah, I have heard it had Windows 10 IoT, but it was still buggy. Not sure if they are going with that still or not. Intel is tough to come by.
  • Fairly sure they'd hold off on a band 2 release if they didn't have win10 IoT working on it properly. 
  • I agree, I doubt they would launch any new hardware without Win 10 going forward. Reports of the OS being buggy probably aren't too different from how people perceive the technical preview of win 10 mobile. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Well... Mr. Nadella thrown away Surface Mini because it was not adding anything new. If IoT is buggy then I think he would delay Band 2 further until IoT is ready. At least that's the kind of guy he seems to be.
  • daniel please write (or do video) about your thought and the things you already know about these devices expect 950 and 950XL very exited and cant waite month & 1/2 surface pro 4 how will look like ?the band 2 with windows 10 IoT ? any streaming media device (slimer xbox) or similer to apple TV ? and the surface mini if its real ..when it will be avalibe,  after the event all these devices at the same time frame or not ? hope to hear somthing from you as you can confirm somthing
  • Waiting :) #lumia950xl
  • Windows 10 mobile launch
  • New Surface Pro and MS Windows Phones around this time frame are pretty much a lock.  Band 2 would make it even better.
  • I really hope they announce the phones before October. Or at least some substantial leaks come out so I can decide if im going back to iPhone or not.
  • I mean, you know they're coming, so why wouldn't you wait an extra month to see for yourself? That said, I agree with you. Microsoft should announce them in early September, even if they're not coming for another month or so. Otherwise, many people will just buy the 'new' iPhone.
  • 'reinvented'
  • An iPhone 6s with 2GB of RAM and "revolutionary" 1080p screen. LOL
  • Considering the sorry state of W10 Mobile and Microsoft Camera its not a big surprise that September becomes October and the shipping schedule announced will be 'in coming months'.
  • Other than edge (which is really horrible, although a work in progress) everything works pretty good.
  • Considering everyone has the choice to try W10 for free, and they have the option to return to 8.1 all is good. I have W10 on my SP3 and pretty much love it. I give lots of feedback about what I like and what I want added. This is the release and with a further major update it will be even more awesome. I respect some may want to stay with 8 1 but I'm all in on W10.
  • We're all talking about mobile stuff. So yeah, W10 (for phones) isn't looking so great. The fact that it's being released several years after W8.1 and doesn't fill a lot of the feature holes is really making some of us enthusiasts sad. But we will see what happens leading up to the launch.
  • In the last month alone, performance on my Lumia 1020 has been night and day.  I'm finally using it as my daily driver without issue.  With Windows 10, Microsoft has the fastest alpha to gold release of features and improvements.  I was skeptical about Windows 10 PC being able to make the deadline, but not only did they meet it, it working fabulously (Clean install) on my computers.   
  • Xbox one mini might be a handheld console.
  • Didn't even think of that. I would buy my first handheld in a long time if that's the case.
  • Has the Times Square Microsoft Store opened up yet? I imagine that will be a large portion of this "event" as well. Will they be holding it in the new store?
  • 5th avenue, and not yet :) 
  • I hope the Xbox One gets 4K streaming and Ultra HD Blu-Ray as part of the update. Would be amazing.
  • The rumor is actually just the opposite. Much smaller unit, no blu-ray drive. Online games only.
  • Waiting for the Surface Bro
  • I'd buy one.
  • Wtih a cover that would double as a Bro.. velcro at the back and all.
  • Does it come with a ball cap for a case?
  • This is the event I'm waiting for! I just wanna know when I can pick up my Lumia 950/950XL at T-Mobile. Both not being available for my carrier is the only thing that can ruin this event for me.
  • Better be preorder now and ship in a week...
  • May be Its WM10 launch and New Surface Phones..Or Windows development in Non windows phones..
  • Good grief, I will take one of each please. Q4 is getting expensive.
  • Cityman and Talkman
  • I'm