Stardock CEO talks about Start10 for Windows 10, DirectX 12 and more

In February, Stardock announced Start10, a Start menu replacement for Windows 10, after it had a massive success with its similar Start8 program for Windows 8 and 8.1. Even though Microsoft decided to add a version of the Start menu back into its latest OS, Stardock's Start10 offers users some other options, including a version that replicates the Start menu found in Windows 7 and more.

Now that Windows 10 has officially launched, we decided to go back and chat with Stardock CEO Brad Wardell to see how Start10 is doing in the marketplace. While the $4.99 program is still in beta (it will officially launch on August 12) Wardell tells us that downloads of Start10 are already generating about 2/3rds of the numbers that Start8 did in its comparative release time frame. We also chat with him about Ashes of the Singularity, an upcoming RTS game that Stardock is publishing and will be the first PC game released to support Microsoft's DirectX 12 graphics API, which launched alongside Windows 10.

First, what's the response been like to Start10 since the first public beta release in February?

Before Windows 10 was actually released, people were very skeptical about it. They had heard that Windows 10 was going to have a start menu so what was the point of Start10? Then people started actually using Windows 10, and they realized that while it's better than nothing, for people doing a lot of work on Windows, it's still flawed.

How does Start10 improve on the Windows 10 Start menu?

What we've tried to do is start from Windows 7 and then think how it would have natively evolved for Windows 10. So for examples: We put the search bar back in the start menu. I don't want to be looking at the search bar on the taskbar all the time. We also maintain the Folder metaphor in all programs. So if I'm looking for MS Office, I can open up the office folder, not sift through all the programs. While many people usually type in what they want to look for, there are plenty of programs on our computers that are hard to remember. I also think many people will find the live tiles area off putting. It feels like a big advertising area for OEMs rather than something aimed at users. Even when I first install Windows 10, I have a ton of crap in there. Can you imagine how people would have felt about Windows 7 if the Start menu started with a bunch of junk pinned to it?

Tutorial: How to remove the Live Tiles section in Windows 10 Start

Based on early sales and reactions, will there be a lot of demand for Start10?

Yes. So far sales are almost as high as Start8 was when Windows 8 first came out.

Can you be more specific?

It's about 2/3 what Start8 was at this stage. It's been somewhere between 15,000 to 20,000 a day so far, in terms of downloads. Start8 was doing closer to 20,000 to 25,000 per day at this point

Why do you think this has happened?

If I had to guess: Live tiles. People hate them. If we weren't so cheap, it wouldn't be a big deal. For $5 you can make the pain go away. That's less than a Starbucks coffee.

Does Stardock have plans for any more Windows 10 software products?

We have several in development. We have a few that makes the desktop more touch friendly than it currently is. We have another one that uses the virtual desktops in Windows 10 to allow users to switch easily between true full-screen apps.

Ashes of the Singularity

Let's talk about Stardock's games, specifically Ashes of the Singularity. Your company is publishing the sci-fi real-time strategy game from developer Oxide Games. Stardock also helped to fund the developer itself. Ashes of the Singularity will be the first PC game to support directly DirectX 12. How did that come about?

We identified some years ago that it would require both a new type of 3D engine and a new graphics API if we wanted to make a truly next generation RTS that could handle thousands of units. We wanted to be able to make strategy games that didn't involve just battles in real time but entire wars across huge areas. So we helped found Oxide Games to build that engine and began working with AMD, NVIDIA, and Microsoft to see how a next-generation API might come about.. AMD created Mantle, which demonstrated just how much performance could be gained if the graphics stack were able to utilize fully all the CPU cores. Microsoft followed up with DirectX 12. And thus we have Ashes, a game that does run well on DirectX 11 but can support much greater fidelity on DirectX 12.

How much input did you and Oxide Games have in how DirectX 12 was developed?

That's really hard to say. We worked heavily with AMD and Microsoft and just told them the kinds of things that would be really helpful. We tried to make the case that there's a whole new level of visual fidelity that current hardware was capable of. I usually used the Lord of the Rings movie example: Those huge battles could be done in real-time on a modern PC if we could just make full use of the hardware that people already have.

When do you believe we will see games taking full advantage of DirectX 12 in combination with hardware?

I suspect Ashes will be the first game that does it. And that's due out in less than a year. Others will show up I suspect in the next year or so. Some of the features are easier to update to than others. I think you'll see a lot of games get updates to support DirectX 12.

We would like to thank Brad for answering our questions, Stardock's Start10 program is currently on sale in beta for $4.99 (opens in new tab). Ashes of the Singularity is already available in alpha for people who pre-order the game via its Founder's Program for $49.99, and will be available in early Beta form later in August.

  • I either use a free software or the built in one. I'm sorry but I adapt. If certain people had a say we'd still be using xp
  • I agree
  • To me, its incredibly pointless to make this software...
  • there is always a demand for such things ... 
  • Yeah, they should released software that brings back the Win 8.1 Start Screen. 8.1 Gestures, Modern IE11, Desktop Tile, while in tablet mode and OneDrive placeholders... Then I'm in!
  • I completely agree..
  • +1
  • While I certainly have no use for the software - to say it is "pointless" is strictly your opinion. If it were truly pointless, then it wouldn't be getting the downloads, there is valid public interest. And since you have stated time and time again that you are a developer, you can uderstand filling a niche that has interest is far more desirable than making software that nobody cares about.
  • That's why I said "to me", is it not ok for me to state my own opinion?
  • He already said "to me"
  • It always bother me when people talk trash, sometimes, as in this case, pompous trash, and then don't respond once called out.  Is Uber too embarassed to come back and say 'my bad'? On topic, it is companies like these that hurt Microsoft. The new start menu is good. Yet a product like this creates the perception that there is something wrong with it. They should say that their offering is different and stress that. Otherwise, they are kinda being jerks.
  • So true. I was thinking the EXACT same thing Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Same for me.
  • So true... I've been hearing people complain about every Start Menu since before that... how this little thing is different, or that is slightly different... People do not like change and that has really held Windows back.
  • "The world hates change, yet it is the only thing that has brought progress." - Charles F. Kettering "He who rejects change is the architect of decay" - Harold Wilson
  • "Just because something is new or different, doesn't mean that it is an improvement" - Schlubadub McSchlubadub
  • I remember when Windows 95 came out, people complained about the introduction of the start menu in general. People will always complain and it takes a few versions of Windows before people become used to a new feature and see it as essential.
  • People actually hated Windows XP start menu too for years and the changes made in Vista which combine into Windows 7 start menu. I dont think people hate live tiles, they probably hated that the other stuff was taken away. Windows 10 is a nice compromise. At least live tiles and modern apps on PC has worked for me as I go to Internet browser much less for simple stuff like weather, stocks, maps, news, email and calendar. Much better experience than the ad-bloated websites, more reachable, with notifications and so on.
  • I'm old enough to remember people being serious about using DOS forever :).
  • An engineer in the family recently said he still doesn't understand why we're not using DOS, that it was so much easier to use.
  • Classic Shell
  • You may joke but someday Classic Shell might come back as redressed and new. The iOS interface was an old defunct interface Apple bought and fancied up. Just imagine the possibilities. :-)
  • Source for this?
  • Yeah just let the start# apps die already. 
  • I don't understand why people need another start menu than the one in Windows 10?! Strange....<p>I</p>
  • I'm being biased here but....old people. lol
  • *troglodytes.
  • What do you call old people?
  • What do you mean you people?
  • Or people like me that find it tedius to have to navigate the All Apps section and its stupid long list to easily find programs we use a lot but not enough to pin to start or the desktop. Its a pity that Start10 can't do a hybrid UI.  I do like the tiles bit of the win10 start menu, but also find the old way easier to navigate in certain situations than the app list.
  • Not sure if you know this, (as I saw a youtube video and someone didn't) but you can click on the letter and it takes you straight there instead of having to scroll through all the apps.
  • People haven't had to "navigate the All Apps section and its stupidly long list to easily find programs" they use a lot since Vista. The All Apps menu turned into a mess, with app developers deciding what icons went where (I'm looking at YOU Adobe!).  Windows Vista's search box did away with all of that. If you're still manually looking down your list of apps to find "Word" so you can click on it (just an example), then quite frankly you're using your PC wrong.
  • This is why sorting options also alleviates the issue of long list by selecting categories to make easier to jump between apps and folders, but similar to 8.1. Too bad, Microsoft didn't included that feature to new Start menu. It's indeed a long list right now.
  • It's long because it's sized for touch now. There's also a jump list built in. As for folders this CEO mentions, THEY'RE STILL THERE! My Office 2013 is still in an Office Folder. Seriously, I'm a power user and all my programs are pinned to me taskbar, all my modern apps are pinned to the start menu for their live tile features. It's not hard to learn and use and provide much more usefulness if you get your head out of your ***.
  • The thing is the Windows 7 menu isn't really any different other than a lot of apps were in folders. Even in 7 I would simply start typing in the search bar instead. More the search bar is always immediately clickable. Everything else I either pin to the Start menu or the task bar. I think too many people are to resistant to change and don't realize that the new Start is actually the quickest to get to most of your apps.
  • Same here, I hated the Start Menu and stopped using it when Windows 7 was released. Always good to have options and fill a need for those that require it, just don't think Brad Wardell should be a dick about about but then he always has been.
  • ... And you don't even know how to use the alphabet menu to jump to the app/software you want? ... or even use Cortana search to jump to your app/software as well? ...
  • In addition to what NaNoo123, there is a "Most used" apps section that let's you access all of your most used apps, instantly.
  • I'm fairly old, Daniel, and I loved the Windows 8 Start Screen (I actually loved everythign about Windows 8) so I don't think it's about age. I'll admit I'm a tech teacher, but many of my students are resistant to change and many of those that I had when Windows 8 came out hated it. After I showed them how to use it, many changed their minds. It's sad how resitant to change many people are (regardless of age), without any logical reason except I liked it the way that it was. I ask these backwards people how they like driving their Model T's on the freeway.
  • That's more the experience I had too. I personally educated hundreds on Windows 8... so often that I got it down to where I could get Windows 8 haters to love it in under 3 minutes. It's really all about who they're getting opinions from. If they're getting their info from someone who doesn't understand why the modern interface works without a touch screen then yeah they're gonna hate Windows 8... after being fed misinformation they pretty much have to.
  • I have similar experience too with some of my friends and acquaintances. They misinformed that Windows 8.X is bad or only for touch screens. They I showed my non-touchscreen 2 year old laptop at that time, operate it purely with mouse and they actually like everything on Windows 8 in few minutes. They even ask me where or how to get it. People are just became too used to same-old things. Even some new things that isn't that hard but saw differences by looks, people refused.
    We can also blamed Microsoft for now giving tutorials and ads how to use Windows 8. They just rely that people will accept it and adapt, which is a big mistake. Now even on Windows 10 they put alot of guide and ads how to use Windows 10.
  • I agree. I was fast using Windows 8.1 on a non-touch desktop and using touch. Slower on Windows 10.I am sure it will get easier with time but there are some things that I would say will always be slower on Windows 10. I miss the Windows 8.1 start screen on my just-upgraded desktop.PC (non-touch) in a way know one talks about. I have a mouse with scroll wheel. It was so fast to scroll the Windows 8.1 start screen. I mean lighting fast. The scroll wheel does work in Win10 but works better with horizontal scrolling in Win 8.
  • I'm disappointed here - I'm 64 and never use this crap. I get tired of being lumped into this category.
  • It was in jest, don't take it personally ;)
  • yeah of course, only old people want the ability to customize the start menu to their needs instead of letting MS tell them how to use it. Only old people wouldn't get confused by a not totally dumped down bling bling version of the start menu
  • Yes, this is Windows Central, where "people who have found something that works for them" equates to "old people who are unable to embrace change and adapt.". It's one of embarrassments to this internet community (WC) that so many simply assume people that don't like changes haven't learned how to use the new things (or that they're old, or that they just reject any change, etc). That may be the case sometimes, but not always. In any case, if a change is truly for the better, people are usually quick to pick up on it and implement it because it saves them time. The reprogramming of motor responses may take longer than a few minutes, but the basic concept of "wow, this will be better" is usually pretty quick when a change is a benefit. When a change does not improve anything, it's always going to be harder to get people to accept it when something else worked well. This isn't age; it's whether or not something already fills the need. (Now, I'm speaking more from mouse/keyboard interaction with the PC, not tablet - because I could not imagine using and liking W7 on a tablet better than W8.1 on one.) On a side note, one of the funniest things on this site has been the when commenters complain that people are opposed to change and just won't adapt, and then they go on to complain how some aspect of Windows 8/8.1 was so much better than Windows 10, and "why did Microsoft change?". LOL, welcome to old age, folks!! You found something that worked for YOU and someone changed it! Time to adapt to Windows 10 :-)
  • I'm old Daniel, but I've hated the start menu sin Windows XP! I'm also missing using my thumbs to navigate in Edge on my Surface Pro. Perhaps Stardock can help me out ?
  • I don't think it has to do with old people. The new start menu is still not as practical when it comes to desktop programs. Retaining the folder structure in the All programs is very important when you install big software like Oracle for example, which organizes the various tools into subfolders.
  • I'm OLD (ish) but I adapt and move on. I don't want my Start Menu looking like some mutant from Win95/Win7 I like the combo of menu and Live Tiles.
  • People that cant move on....
  • Came here only to say I'm perfectly happy with Windows 10 Start ! :D
  • Interesting math he's doing. He claims it is going very well, because "sales are almost as high as Start 8 was when Windows 8 first came out." He then goe on to say "It's about 2/3 what Start8 was at this stage." In other words sales are 1/3 less than what they were at a similar stage with Windows 8 at the same point in the release cycle. That sounds kind of bad when you take into account that there are more Windows 10 users now than there were Windows 8 users at this same stage. To summarize - more potential users yet they're selling fewer copies. This does not sound like things are going well as the uptake in the new version of his software is actually slower than it used to be. Perhaps this is why he's doing the interview.
  • Why replace a great start menu? :)
  • I don't know. Windows 95 had it nailed. I don't know why anyone would want to change that.
  • Psh, Windows 95 was so damn inefficient. I want to meet the jerk who invented GUIs. I want my command lines and thick books with BASIC programming tutorials back. So much better.
  • You're right about that. I've just downloaded the old copy of DOS 6.11. I'm going to install that and go back to proper computing. I miss my old 512KB RAM computer running at 4.77MHz. /sarcasm
  • Make sure you get those kids off your lawn as well.
  • Lol, Windows 95 was far from nailing it. The Start Menu between 95-W7 was pretty inefficient. The endless cascading folders that lead to various file names for each app was preposterous.
  • I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic
  • Yeah, especially when it costs more than the OS itself. I know he's talking about downloads but how many of those are trials? Plus, I can literally replicate his start menu by customizing the native one. It is utterly pointless. That way I don't have to have another application running in the background either.
  • In the same vein, why replace the start screen. Because some people like A and some like B.  Only wierdos like C.
  • Maybe because this "great" menu can't show all apps?
  • How is clicking "all apps" in windows 10 any different from clicking "programs" like you had to do in Windows 7 or vista? Never mind the fact that you can jump straight to the app you want by clicking the letter you want. What's missing/different?
  • Agreed, Windows 10 Start menu is much faster to access apps/programs than the old one (except from Windows 8.1). Also you can pin favorite apps/programs now as a Tiles, and you can group them and you can pin alot without any restriction From Start menu size.
  • I agree, why would you replace a great Windows 10 start menu?  
  • A lot of his comments are typical "I don't like live tiles" mentality. If you don't like them, don't use them, it is a very simple process to unpin, or even uninstall any universal app and tile. In fact it is easier to remove unwanted OEM universal crap than Win32 bloatware.
  • To be fair, the new start menu is much less useful than the one from Windows 7 without live tiles. Still, I haven't heard a single convincing argument why live tiles are supposed to be so horrible. Yes, I get people hated the full screen menu from Windows 8 and I could totally see where they were coming from. But the tiles are basically just icons if you turn off the live aspect of them (which I'm not sure why you'd do, at least for some apps but whatever). So often I hear "they may be good on a phone or tablet but not on a PC" and I've never heard why tiles somehow magically lose their usefulness when I use a mouse instead of a finger to click on them. Heck, a small-sized tile even wastes much less space than a desktop icons. But whatever, at this point I'd really just say it's people being closed-minded. I'm just glad those people don't have a say.
  • I find the opposite to be true, W7 had a very slightly evolved start menu with a much better taskbar. W10 takes the best of 7/8 together plus adds Cortana into the taskbar.
  • Adding Cortana to the taskbar means you don't even need to click the Start button, just say "Hey Cortana launch/open..." and Cortana opens it for you.
  • Tiles don't display information efficiently, since the icon is very large compared with the text. A tile which is just a small thumnail beside the name of a program or folder would be fine, but this would no longer be called a tiled interface.
  • Now I'm curious how you're going to tell me how desktop icons are any different in that regard.
  • Exactly. The people that say the W8 start screen is 'new' or 'innovative' are actually just embracing the desktop wall-of-icons that everyone used to have. The start menu was designed to organise everything into an efficient tree-structure instead of a flat, unorganised mess. On W7 and before, I always had a highly organised structure for my applications, so it was easy to see only small pieces of information at a time i.e. expanding the folders you want to see. There was no equivalent in W8, except to create vertical columns, which you have to scroll through endlessly. If you want to open 5 programs in the same column (say on the far right of the screen) then you have to scroll-scroll-scroll, click program, click start, scroll-scroll-scroll again, click program and keep repeating. It's truly inefficient! Why can't I (easily) create my own groups in all-apps? why can't I have folders? why can't I even control where one tile will be placed in relation to another (e.g to leave gaps). It's actually more like a gimped version of the desktop which actually gives you more control over the organisation of things.
  • There is an option to make the tile small, medium, large, or extra large. If you use the small, it basically become an icon and is equivelent to pinning your favorites to the desktop or task bar. Even, if you use the tiles the same way as an icon, the windows 10 start menu is still way better for organizing your favorites.
  • Yes, but the problem is that unless you use an app frequently then you often don't know what the icon is. It's more effective to have small icon + text to reinforce what the icon is for.
  • The small tile is of the same size as the desktop icon, and is not much different in size than the text in the start menu. I failed to see your comparison.
  • My only complaint about Live tiles is I'd love the ability to pin the tiles to my desktop like Widgets.
  • You mean, like Windows 8...
  • This^ I proposed it numerous times, but MS is entrenched in the desktop.
  • Well first they have to implement Interactive Live Tile first. Also if they do that there will be a massive change to desktop that people might complain, sadly. live tiles requires uniform grid and bigger spacing.
    For me I would love Start screen to auto-open when there is no windows visible in the desktop (all closed or all minimized). Good idea anyways.
  • Ew
  • Funny thing is I've had people say they hate live tiles and I ask why they say they are ugly or useless. Nearly in the same breath they say they are a blatant copy of the widgets on their phone, WHICH THEY SAY THEY LOVE???
  • Some people have this strange mindset that things that are good on a phone become automatically bad on a PC because...something?
  • Because reasons....
    Humans are strange. I don't get it either.
  • Ive used both an Android Phone and Windows 8.1/10 and Windows Phone 8.1 and I actually hated Androids Widgets (to big, a mess and useless) and love the livetiles (in my honest opinion, Microsoft nailed the whole Widget thing with its livetiles concept).
  • I like - and use - Live Tiles. But I am a "just-at-a-glance" type person.
  • Or you can turn off live tiles.
  • What isn't as simple or easy is navigating the annoying All Apps list to try and quickly find what would only take 1-2 seconds in 7. People hated 8 because there was no choice, you did things Sinofski's way or you didn't do it.  10 is a LOT better but unlike all versions up to 7, there is no way to revert back to the interface that many people prefer, especially businesses and for workflow specific situations. The new notification centre is a huge improvement on 8's 'settings' thing, but there are still things its faster and easier to do with 7's UI.
  • For you, maybe. I find nothing faster in 7 and nothing could make me go back there.
  • Or you can go to all apps and click on the letters at the beginning to each section to use the jump list. You don't have to scroll if you don't want to.
  • Assuming you actually know what the apps is called. I have hundreds and hundreds of apps and don't know them all by name. I would prefer to assign them to a folder/category and then call up that category alphabetically. e.g. photography, travel, development etc. Then I only have to look at the apps within that list which could be a mixed bag of things e.g. in travel i might have a few navigation and mapping apps, hotel & flight apps, translators, destination-specific apps, etc. I shouldn't have to sit there and recall them all by name or as said before scroll through the all-apps view to refresh my memory for the different apps I have.
  • Windows 8/8.1 doesn't have notification center, so its invalid to compare them since feature don't exist and there is nothing really similar features. If you mean Charms, that's entirely a different thing.
  • In settings there is an option to turn off the live tiles.
    No uninstalling, removing, etc needed at all.
  • Windows 9 had it nailed.
  • Windows 9.1 is better!
  • had to guess: Live tiles. People hate them. If we weren't so cheap, it wouldn't be a big deal. For $5 you can make the pain go away. That's less than a Starbucks coffee.
    If people weren't so stupid I'd be out of business. FTFY 
  • Someone really has an axe to grind ...
  • Windows 10 should simply allow you to remove the live tiles if you want
  • They should and that is why that is exactly what they do.
  • You can. We did a tutorial on it. Just unpin them. It's not as easy if they just had a toggle, but it's not hard either.
  • You can keep the tiles and simple not have them be "live" which might be the answer he was looking for.
  • You can, just don't have any pinned.
  • Have you even tried?
  • I find him arrogant and condescending. I do a lot of work on Windows 10 and have no issues finding what I need. If you need to sort through folders to find something, you're being inefficient and lazy. If you use Windows to get work done, you know what you need to work. Cortana's search function is extremely powerful and can get you right what you need without a dock. All I see here are lazy people.
  • This^
    Typical hubris born of (moderate) success.
    Let's see how far it'll go with W10. I bet most people will eventually uninstall it. The W10 start menu is awesome. Change takes some effort, but it is remotely far from painful.
  • Thats the thing though, you do a 'lot of work with windows 10'.  Most people don't, and can't justify spending time having to learn a foreign (to them) UI just to do tasks that were simple to them before.
  • He has to say that because he wants to make money off you. I am just LOL, this little utility program is infinitely more expensive than the Windows 10 OS upgrade.
  • Why do you think people buy your product?  Brad Wardell: "If I had to guess: Live tiles. People hate them."  He has to convince the world Live Tiles suck in order to sell his product.  Note that he didn't say that some people just dont like them or that some people just don't want to take the time to figure out how to use them. No, he's states flatly "People hate them".  Totally marketing speak.
  • He's quote bold to say it and that statement feels arrogant. With that statement, he's not helping and just applying cold water to fresh wound. Totally marketing speak indeed. He could just said "Some people just prefer the classic ones.
  • He has to come up with a vaguely plausible and marketable reason, I suppose. He can't just say "Stardock products: for nerds who like to tinker", which is probably nearer the truth.
  • Still wasn't able to get Windows 10. Same error... deleting everything from "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download" and running "Wuauclt.exe/updatenow" via CMD as Admin hasn't helped... It's frustrating as I love Windows and big fan of Msft! I don't want to make Clean install as I would need to install all my programs and stuff...
  • Why don't you just wait until MS pushes your update thru windows update?
  • Nevermind, It started to work now. And I don't want to wait! I have waited too long for W10! I haven't been able to use Insider since my laptop broke...
  • in case it isn't actually working after all (I encountered this after wasting time with the updatenow business), just get the 'Download Tool' from MS: Allows you to do the in place upgrade (or create install media) without tinkering with various system download files.
  • yeah seriously this download tool is the best thing they prepared for the release of windows 10. I'm not sure why there wasn't an article written on the tool instead of reserve this or that or force check this and that. The tool even lets you upgrade in place AND choose if you want to remove files and programs, just programs and keep files, or CLEAN your drive. Its awesome I didn't even have to clean install from a USB drive or deal with ISOs, The tool wiped my drive for me then installed W10. 110% recommend.
  • The problem with that is, if WP Denim update is any indication (I know different subject yet possible same trend), it could be "months" before some are able to upgrade, shouldn't have been such a questionable or difficult process.
  • Apples and Oranges my friend. The situation on Windows Phone is in no way similar to the Windows 10 PC rollout. Windows Phone for a start doesn't have to content with many millions of possible combinations of hardware, drivers, installed software, etc.  Many of those combinations will cause a bad upgrade experience for people unless the issues are dealt with first, which is what Microsoft are doing.
  • Agree with you to a point but my point was that if the W10 upgrade follows suit to Denim some PCs may never see the light of day in regards to upgrading, most blamed the phone carriers for the lack of Denim so who’s to say some PC manufactures won’t do the same, were not talking ancient PCs here but ones that easily fall into the “minimum requirements” category, know what I know MS takes some of the blame here too. I’ve been on the WP eco system for nearly 3 yrs and it started on a high, went that way for about a year and then began to decline with anything new of relevance becoming far and few between, not to mention uncertainty, that’s because it is “work in progress” and so too is W10, will they continue to improve the latter at a reasonable pace (that’s subjective of course) or will it gradually peter out with broken promises and delays… That is my point.
  • Just download and use the official install tool, it's a total breeze. I updated day one of release, didn't even 'reserve' an upgrade. Heck I just got a new tablet today with 8.1 and updated it to 10 with the tool a couple of hours ago. Us wincentral guys shouldn't wait in line lol!
  • Not everyone is as tech savvy so that isn't an option for them, this "Get Windows 10" was to alleviate the pains of upgrading but in my books has failed, out of my seven devices only one has succeeded through the app with four requiring a manual install... Still two to go
  • Not sure you need to be "tech savvy" to visit and click a download button, followed by OK on a prompt that says "Upgrade this PC now".
  • Ummm, obviously you are not one of those non-techies, unless you've been hiding under a log in the woods since the invention of the PC you would know there are people out there (tons) that can't even decipher between a left and right click, a single/double click, home button and so on. Maybe I'm living in some remote part of the world compared to everyone else but still stand by my statement, seen it done it, going to a site and locating what one needs totally differs from what the "Get Windows 10" app was supposed to achieve, sure there are millions of successes but my trials and tribulations attempting either an auto or manual upgrade on seven device with troubles too numerous to count surely can't be a coincidence.