Lumia 1520 Review
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Nokia Lumia 1520 Review

Nokia’s latest Lumia features a massive 1080P 6-inch display and a Quad-Core processor, making it the most powerful Windows Phone to date

Back in April, reports began circulating that the Windows Phone 8 operating system would receive support for large, high resolution displays later in the year. Android has had such support for a long time, and Samsung’s success with its Galaxy Note line suggests that consumers want big screens, no matter what the tradeoffs. This Friday, November 22nd, Nokia and AT&T are finally firing back with the first 1080P Windows Phone: the Lumia 1520.

Make no mistake, it’s a massive phone with a 6-inch display and support for a powerful new processor, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800. The question is, is it too unwieldy to use for the average consumer? How good is it and perhaps more importantly, who’s it designed for?

Windows Phone Central answers these questions in more in our comprehensive look at the colossal Nokia Lumia 1520.


Outstanding HD display in the familiar Lumia design, the Lumia 1520 also features a winning 20 MP PureView camera, that makes it highly appealing to gamers, movie watchers, photographers and people who need to do work. The 2.2 GHz Quad-Core CPU pushed the device to new speeds.


AT&T debuts the Lumia 1520 with just 16 GB of internal storage and removes Qi-wireless charging to make the device less spectacular. No stylus limits productivity and the six-inch display may be too much for some consumers.


The Lumia 1520 is yet another outstanding Windows Phone from Nokia, in fact it may be their last with the 'Nokia' name. It's a larger, powerful Windows Phone that offers cutting edge technology, including a Quad-Core CPU, 1080P 6-inch display, 2 GB RAM and an excellent 20 MP PureView camera. Although the device has a nuanced audience, it finally offers a solid 'phablet' experience for Windows Phone fans or converts.

Specifications

  • Windows Phone 8 (Build 10517)
  • Lumia Black firmware (Build 1343)
  • 6” full HD 1080p IPS LCD, ClearBlack, Sunlight readability, Super sensitive touch, Gorilla Glass 2
  • Pixel density: 368 ppi
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-Core processor, 2.2 GHz
  • 2 GB RAM
  • 16 GB internal storage (32 GB variant coming soon)
  • Bluetooth 4.0
  • 3400 mAh internal battery (optional wireless charging for AT&T version)
  • micro SD expansion
  • nano SIM
  • Camera: 20 MP PureView, ZEISS optics, OIS, 2x lossless zoom, oversampling, dual LED flash
  • Size/Weight: 162.8 mm x 85.4 mm x 8.7 mm; 206 g
  • Colors: Yellow, white, black, glossy red

On paper, the Lumia 1520 finally matches the competition in terms of support for the latest hardware. For instance, the Snapdragon 800 is state-of-the-art for modern processors. The full HD 1080P display is also where the current high-end hardware sits. The battery is one of the largest found in any smartphone today and the 20 MP PureView camera is only second to the Lumia 1020’s 41 MP monster.

While the Lumia 1520 may not be for everyone due to its large size, the hardware spec sheet marks the first time that a Windows Phone runs equal with the competition. Let us consider this a turning point for Microsoft, whose hardware support has up until now lagged behind the latest mobile innovations.

In addition to the above raw-specs, the Lumia 1520 continues Nokia’s tradition of hardware refinements with the following:

  • (New) Assertive Display algorithm made by Apical, runs at an individual pixel level to make the screen more readable
  • PureMotion HD+ - High display refresh rate for smooth scrolling
  • ClearBlack – A dual-layer polarizer that helps filter reduce glare and make colors more pure
  • Sunlight Readability – The display ramps up to overdrive when in direct sunlight
  • Super Sensitive Touch – The ability to use the touchscreen when wearing gloves
  • Rich Audio Recording – Quad HAAC microphones, stereo recording
  • Nokia Glance – On screen clock, notifications

Look And Feel

Lumia 1520 hand
Although big in the hand, the Lumia 1520 is manageable 

When it comes to the design of the Lumia 1520, Nokia sticks to what works. The layout is virtually identical to previous Lumias with the volume, power and camera buttons all falling on the right side, micro USB port on the bottom and the 3.5mm headphone jack in the middle on top. The powerful speaker is on the lower back, falling on the curve of the device and giving it ample clearance.

Likewise for the overall design, which features smooth, curved edges and at least on the white version, a matte polycarbonate unibody design.

Lumia 1520 back

In the most basic sense, the Lumia 1520 is literally a larger Lumia 720. That’s a good choice by Nokia in my opinion, as the 720 has one of the most balanced designs of all the Lumias. In practice, while the Lumia 1520 is very large, its relative thinness makes it comfortable to handle. It’s also lighter than you would expect upon first glance. Having said that, it’s still heavier than the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (206g versus 168g).

The buttons match the color of the device, instead of contrasting, which is a change. They’re also a bit flatter and less detectable by touch when hunting for them, especially when compared to the Lumia 1020, which has more prominent keys. They do ‘click’ when utilizing them, however I do wish they were more conspicuous (once again, the likeness to the Lumia 720 holds here too).

But Is It Too Big?

Lumia 1520 pocket
If it fits...

Smartphones that fall in to the 6-inch category are naturally divisive. While Nokia has enjoyed success with the 4.5-inch range, jumping to 6-inches is not exactly trivial. Because of that, some people may shy away from something that large. Nokia also has a reputation for big, somewhat bulky phones, albeit well-built ones. So is the Lumia 1520 too ungainly?

The answer is of course dependent on the individual, but I can say from the few days that I’ve had the Lumia 1520, I didn’t find it awkward. It does draw attention, since pulling such a phone from your pocket, especially in white, yellow or red, is an obvious exercise. But using it as phone, emailing, or even carrying it around was not problematic. “Odd”, “different” and even a tad funny, yes, but it was not prohibitive.

Lumia 1520 vs 1020
Battle of the titans: Lumia 1520 (left) versus Lumia 1020 (right)

The Lumia 1520 also passes our pocket test. That test involves me placing the device in my front pocket and walking around. I’m thorough like that. The 1520 does pop out a bit from my admittedly shallow pant pocket, but it wasn’t too strange. From my experience, it’s more uncomfortable to have a bulging phone than a large, flat but thin device. Using cargo pants can also help. Tossing on a cover though, and you will make things more difficult.

Fellow Windows Phone Central writer Seth Brodeur served as a mini-experiment with the device. At first he recoiled at its size, chuckling at its large spread, but over a few hours he grew to enjoy the benefits of its enormous display. He was not necessarily convinced about using it as a phone, but in deciding over it versus an 8-inch Windows 8 tablet, he was leaning towards the Lumia 1520.

And that’s the big allure with the Lumia 1520, its display.

Six Inches of HD Glory


An excellent display

The main attraction to the Lumia 1520 is its massive screen. Perfect for watching video (it came preloaded with Hulu Plus), gaming or getting work done, there is little debate that the 1520’s display is drool worthy.

That huge 1920 x 1080 display is an IPD LCD with Gorilla Glass 2, along with Nokia’s ClearBlack polarizer for deep blacks and low reflectivity in light. I’m not going to pull any punches here, it’s definitely the best display I’ve seen on a smartphone and bests any Windows Phone out there. The screen is bright, colors are vibrant and the viewing angle is astonishing (tipping the device at 180 degrees, you can still read the display).

Since Nokia opted for IPS LCD (e.g. Lumia 920) over AMOLED (e.g. Lumia 925 and 1020), colors are not too saturated or overpowering. I’m not going to pick which technology is better, as it is often a personal preference, but I do find myself leaning towards the more natural look of IPS LCD  this time around over AMOLED, mostly because anything more intense would be too much on the eyes. AMOLED previously had the advantage of deep blacks and less air gap between the display and glass. But IPS LCD has caught up in terms of high-angle visibility and reduction in air gaps while retaining its hallmark natural appearance.


Though a wide device, the 1520 is quite thin

Playing games on the 1520 of course is amazing because you simply have more room for on-screen controls. When giving this “screen with a phone” to a friend, I watched as her face glowed when playing Jetpack Joyride. Gamers: you now have what is essentially a gaming machine with a phone attached. Of course with AT&T neutering the device with only 16 GB of storage, that could be a problem as well (more on that below). Although current gaming titles are not built around 1080P graphics, there were no issues for appearance or gameplay.

I should also point out that this is a mostly two-hand device. It is simply impossible to hold the Lumia 1520 in one hand and grab a Tile in the upper corner. That’s just a fact of life on any 6-inch phone as you use it differently than a traditional smartphone. Is it bad? Not at all, as I’ve mostly used my phones like that in the past, but your mileage may vary.

When it comes to typing, I’m happy (and embarrassed) to say that I can finally type unconstrained with the Lumia 1520. That’s more of a confession about my ungainly phalanges than the Lumia 1520, but I can at least say typing on it was not only easy but a pleasure.


Lumia 1520 (matte white) with optional CP-623 case

One complaint? The display may be a smidgen too bright, or rather it could stand to have its 'low mode' be even lower for indoor usage. Currently, the 6-inch display slightly overwhelms. Lowering it could also save some battery power too.

As good as the 1520 is for gaming or media, Nokia is not angling the Lumia 1520 for that so much as a device for business. That may seem an odd sell, but working on a spreadsheet or an Office Word document on a 1080P display with six inches at your disposal is a fascinating experience. Indeed, once you to real work on this thing, any phone smaller will feel…well tiny. It’s akin to how Windows Phone users feel when banging out a text on the iPhone’s measly 4 inch display, except it now applies to your previously roomy Lumia 920.

Be forewarned: once you make the jump to a six-inch display, it may be hard going back to anything less.

Phone

Lumia 1520 leaves
Colorful tiles

Making calls on the Lumia 1520 is interesting. It does feel a bit odd to put such a wide device to your brain cage, but size is relative and all in all, it wasn’t bad. I suppose that using a Bluetooth headset would be one way to get around the 1520’s large size, nonetheless I find using Bluetooth headsets even more abnormal than using a 1520 for calls.

I did end up using two hands on occasion because honestly, stretching one hand across the display to dial a number would be a challenge. At least Windows Phone has a relatively good voice control system (Tell Me) to make calling your preloaded contacts a breeze.

Vibration for incoming calls and alerts was decent but I would have expected it to be a little more intense.

Audio was on par with previous Lumias, that is, excellent. As far as the speakerphone…

One Cranking Speaker

Lumia 1520 speaker
A most excellent speaker

I normally don’t focus too heavily on audio, but I can’t help but notice how loud the Lumia 1520 can be for music or general audio. I guess when Nokia was done cramming the device with a massive 3400 mAh battery they had some room to spare, because the speaker, located on the lower bottom, is really, really loud. As a point of reference, keeping the Lumia 1520 on 65% volume, even for music, was more than enough. Cranking to 100%, while remaining distortion free, will rival a laptop or tablet easily.  It’s really loud.

Once again, if you were thinking of using this for movies, TV, music or gaming, the Lumia 1520 gets a check mark here.

Nokia did a worthy job on speaker placement too. Since the 1520, like the 720, has rounded edges, Nokia could not put the speaker on the edge of the device (like the Lumia 920). But because the 1520 is so large, they were able to place it where the device rounds off on the back. That’s a great design choice because laying the phone on its back won’t obscure the speaker, instead it has just enough clearance to blast away unimpeded. Likewise, I didn’t find myself muffling the speaker with my hand when gaming.

The 20 MP PureView Camera

With the Lumia 1520, Nokia is introducing some new camera technology. Instead of using the same 8.7 MP camera found in the Lumia 920/925 or the massive 41 MP shooter found in the Lumia 1020, Nokia has gone for something in between: 20 megapixels.

The Lumia 1020 famously has a rather large 1/1.5 inch sized sensor, while the Lumia 920 has a much smaller 1/3 inch version. The Lumia 1520 falls in between with a 1/2.5 inch. Granted, that’s not a massive shift but anyone familiar with photography will opt for the larger sensor each and every time, especially if you cram more pixels on to it.

Aperture on the 1520 is only an f/2.4, higher than the Lumia 1020 (f/2.2) and the Lumia 920 (f/2.0). Aperture reflects how much light can land on the sensor and generally speaking, the lower the f-stop, the more light.


Lumia 1520 sample photo

Pushing the specs aside though, how does the Lumia 1520 fair? Right between the Lumia 1020 and Lumia 925, exactly as you would expect. That’s being a bit disingenuous though, as I would rate the 1520 very high, closer to the 1020 in terms of raw image quality.

Do you remember how people complained about ‘softness’ on the Lumia 920? Images are sharp as a tack with the 1520. Bokkeh, or the blurriness in the background, was smooth. Color balance was even, fairing on the conservative side (meaning not over-saturated) and even focusing for macro shots was excellent, unlike the Lumia 1020, which famously has a longer distance threshold for close-up shots.

Lumia 1520 camera

The 2.2 GHz Quad-Core processor also helps with image processing. While the Lumia 1020 notoriously lags for shutter and handling, the Lumia 1520 is closer to the standard Lumia PureView experience. In fact, I can definitely say from my tests that the Lumia 1520 is about 50% faster for launching the camera and processing the image than the Lumia 1020.

Part of that result is due to the processor rendering far fewer pixels (41 megapixels versus just 20), but that Snapdragon 800 with its two extra cores clearly plays a role too. In a way, it’s a shame that the Lumia 1020 had to go with the slower and older Snapdragon S4, as clearly the speed and core boost would help with that device tremendously.


Lumia 1520 sample photo

The Lumia 1520 does benefit from the same processing technology found in the high-end Lumia 1020, specifically oversampling. Although taking a 20 MP photo on a phone is useful, since you can re-crop later and zoom in for more details, sharing such a huge photo could be problematic. As a solution to this problem, the Lumia 1520 creates a second, oversampled 5 MP image (around 2 MB) for sharing. That image is essentially a really high quality 5 MP photo, and as you can see from my samples, it does not disappoint.


Lumia 1520 sample photo

The flash on the Lumia 1520 is dual LED instead of the more coveted xenon found on Nokia’s Lumia 928 and Lumia 1020. It’s a good flash though, by which I mean it maintains the appropriate whites as opposed to a yellow or pink hue common with LED flashes. The syncing is also good with accurate balance when used as a fill-flash. A fill flash is for situations where a flash is not required, but instead fills in shadows created from external light sources. The 1520 seems to nail this style of flash work better than any other Lumias, making me reconsider my habit of generally avoiding flash photography.


Lumia 1520 sample photo

Speaking of raw image quality, due to the inclusion of the ‘Lumia Black’ firmware, the Lumia 1520 supports RAW image (DNG) format. This is an option found under settings and it is aimed at hobbyist and pro photographers. RAW images includes data direct from the sensor before any JPEG algorithms are engaged. This allows deeper manipulation of the image data on a PC using Adobe Photoshop or other professional image editing programs.


RAW files (DNG) take up a lot of space

It’s a delightful feature but be cautioned on data: each DNG image is around 21 MB in size. That’s coupled with the oversampled 5 MP image for sharing (2 MB), resulting in each single photo costing you around 23 MB in data. This is why opting for a microSD card is probably a requisite should you chose to shoot in this manner.


'Lumia Black' camera with RAW (DNG) support

Also keep in mind that you have a few options for shooting on the Lumia 1520, including just a 5 MP oversampled image, the 20 MP version (16 MP high resolution + 5 MP oversampled) and the ultimate, JPEG (5 MP) and DNG (16 MP).


Lumia 1520 sample photo

All in all, I’m very happy with the Lumia 1520’s camera. It’s the same story with Nokia as they keep innovating and improving upon the last, especially when it comes to photography. Luckily for Lumia owners, the processing tweaks and DNG support found on the Lumia 1520 will be coming to all Lumia 92x and 1020 devices early next year with the ‘Lumia Black’ firmware update.

Battery Life


micro USB for charging (bottom)

To match the massive display, the Lumia 1520 comes with a considerable battery, weighing in at a respectable 3400 mAh. Nokia rates that at 24 hours of talk time on 3G and 11 hours of maximum Wi-Fi browsing time.

I’ve only had the device for a few days, so a thorough battery test was difficult to achieve. However, from my limited experience, I’d say the battery life was good, but not astonishing. In other words, while 3400 mAh is a large battery, when coupled with a 1080P, 6-inch display and a Quad-Core 2.2 GHz CPU, that extra 1400 mAh over other Lumias seems to be a wash.

Using the device’s built in estimates (found under Settings > Battery saver), the phone reads 15 hours remaining when at 100% (it later hopped to 2 days at 98%, then 1 day 12 hours at 95%). That’s not bad, but it’s far from earth shattering either. Advice: don’t plan to remain too far away from a power source.

Windows Phone 8 Update 3

The Nokia Lumia 1520 comes with Windows Phone 8 Update 3. We’ve detailed this release in the past and as of November 2013, it is the latest version of the OS from Microsoft. It will also be the final update to Window Phone 8 before the expected 8.1 update due in the spring, which the Lumia 1520 is anticipated to receive.

Besides the support for HD displays and Quad-Core processors, Update 3 offers better Bluetooth functionality, Driving Mode to manage calls and text messages in the car, screen orientation lock, customized alerts for email or text messages, and the ability to close apps running the background.

The Best Co-Pilot You’ve Ever Had


Lumia 1520 + GPS

When it comes to using in the car, the Lumia 1520 is nothing short of grand. The 6-inch display and built in HERE Drive+ for GPS navigation work exceptionally well, allowing you to clearly see and use the device with little fuss. Windows Phone 8 Update 3 and Bluetooth 4.0 should permit the phone to work with any car setup, and if not, the phone’s own speaker is more than satisfactory.

I can state that without any case or cover, the Lumia 1520 does work with the Nokia CR-200 wireless car charger. It’s a tight fight and the clamps don’t even need to be engaged, but the 1520 will slide in and hold without issue. Of course, the AT&T version does not have wireless charging built in and if you add a wireless charging cover, you will have to trim the clamp pads down to make it work. It’s feasible but not ideal.

Still, if you drive a lot, using the Lumia 1520 as a GPS navigator is about as good as it gets.

Accessories


The Lumia 1520 is excellent for video

The Lumia 1520 comes with a USB wall charger in the box.

A Protective Cover (CP-623), used to protect the corners of the device and the display, is optional and can be purchased from Microsoft or AT&T for around $40. It comes in yellow, white, red or black. That flip cover can roll into a kickstand, allowing the Lumia 1520 to be used to watch videos with ease.


The Nokia CP-623 flip cover rolling up into a stand

The CP-623 is a decent accessory, certainly protecting the device from accidental low-level drops. However, the flip cover flops around, unable to be latched and it feels a tad flimsy. It does not act as a wireless cover shell.

For wireless charging, Incipio is offering a $49 PMA wireless charging cover. It is not compatible with the previous Qi-enabled charging pads and accessories from Nokia.

More accessories for the Lumia 1520 can be found in the WPCentral Store dedicated to this device.

AT&T’s Sterilization of the Lumia 1520


AT&T almost ruins the experience

In the past, I’ve either overlooked or rolled my eyes at some decisions AT&T have made in regards to Windows Phone. They are the best carrier for Microsoft phones in the US. They are also the worst. And to be clear, they are hurting Nokia and the Lumia 1520 by their pronouncement.

To understand this problem, AT&T endorses the PMA (Power Matters Alliance) and Nokia uses Qi. They are two competing wireless standards and customers are caught in between both of them. What’s worse, AT&T previously allowed the Qi-enabled Lumia 920 to be sold but have since reneged support on the Lumia 1020 and Lumia 1520. So while the international version of the Lumia 1520 will have this feature built in, AT&T customers will go without due to that company’s conflict of interest.

Likewise for the internal storage, which is capped at 16 GB. While 16 GB plus micro SD expansion is probably adequate for many, when you are either buying an expensive device or committing to a 2-year contract, you want the most for your money. AT&T and Nokia have since stated that a 32 GB version is coming “in the future” but let’s face it, AT&T botched this launch by offering a little now and more later on. I suspect that most customers won’t know this fact and they will buy a 16 GB version only to regret not waiting for the 32 GB variant.

The Lumia 1520 as it stands is still an amazing addition to the Lumia family, but AT&T’s meddling into the vision that Nokia has for this phone is quite frankly baffling and infuriating.

Who’s It For?

So who is the Lumia 1520 designed for? As far as I can tell, these three groups will benefit the most from the 1520’s giant display:

  • Gamers
  • Movie and TV fans
  • Business

For gamers, we suggest you wait for the 32 GB version. Windows Phone premium games are increasingly coming in at 1 GB or more for storage space. Considering that the Lumia 1520 only has about 11.5 GB of actual storage available on the 16 GB version, gamers will quickly fill that up with some big name titles. There’s no word on when that 32 GB variant will arrive for AT&T, but it’s not expected to be too long.

People who watch TV (Hulu Plus) or Movies (Netflix) will be fine with a 16 GB device, as most media is streamed these days. Xbox Video for Windows Phone, which will be available very soon, should hopefully allow video to be stored on the micro SD card, which can handle up to 64 GB of data. The same goes for music lovers, who can store their tunes on the same card.

For those in business or those who need to do work, the 16 GB version should be adequate. The Lumia 1520 comes with Microsoft Office built in, including Word, One Note, SkyDrive and Office 365 care. There are also third party apps like InNote for note taking.

Odds and Ends


3.5mm headphone jack (top)

Although I have been mostly positive about the Lumia 1520, there is room for improvement. Here are a couple of other negatives:

  • AT&T limitations (noted above)
  • No support for a stylus, which is considered to be one of the major selling points for the Galaxy Note
  • The display occasionally turns on from Glance Background beta (perhaps and odd bug)
  • Device keys are little too flush
  • Vibration is weaker than expected
  • Nano SIM – Users will have to get a new SIM to use it and use an adapter if they want to switch to another phone
  • Yellow is limited in availability

None of those are deal breakers, unless you absolutely need wireless charging or 32 GB of internal storage.

Final Thoughts

Lumia 1520

The Nokia Lumia 1520 is a big device, not just literally but it serves as a turning point for the Windows Phone hardware ecosystem. It’s the second instance of a Lumia breaking out from the middle-of-the-road devices of the past to more extreme, specific devices that push boundaries.

Phones like the Lumia 1020 and Lumia 1520 are not meant for everyone, but they instead cater to specific demographics of customers who desire either a really powerful camera or a giant, HD display. The fact that Nokia can turn its attention to delivering more nuanced devices for customers is a great thing, even if this phone isn’t for you.

There’s also no reason to convince you or others if you “need” a 6-inch Windows Phone. Most of you already know that answer. The question for those who do want one is: Is this good enough? The answer, with a few caveats mentioned above, is yes.

Between the remarkable 1080P display, the top-in-its-class 20 MP PureView camera and the overall build quality, the Lumia 1520 continues the tradition of excellent, high quality devices from Nokia. It’s a joy to do some actual work on, churn out an email, take (and view) first-rate photos and it makes an excellent GPS navigator.

The Lumia 1520 may be extreme for some, and that’s fine, but for what it sets out to do, it accomplishes that goal admirably.

The Nokia Lumia 1520 will be available from AT&T on Friday, November 22nd for $99 on a two-year contract (limited time offer); $199 normal or $584 off-contract. It can be ordered from AT&T (online and retail) or from Microsoft Stores (online and retail).

Nokia is also offering a $20 voucher for the Windows Phone Store for those who purchases a new Lumia.

Have questions about the Lumia 1520? Want to discuss it more? Head into our Lumia 1520 forums right now: forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1520

Video credit: Mark Guim, Windows Phone Central

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Nokia Lumia 1520 Review

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It looks SOOO Massive!!  i cannot wait to grab one.  Scrolling throw emails, the web, onenote and music lists will be awesome on this device.  Definitely needs a flip cover though!

 

No cover. This beauty has to stay naked :P

To be completely honest, I thing it's a little bit too big for me. Give me a Lumia with the same specs (international version), a 5" screen and I'm sold.

That would be the Verizon 929. Not a day goes by that I don't wish the 929 was on ATT. I am actually fed up with Verizon and moving to ATT on thanksgiving. That makes my move even more painful.

The first thing I did was open up here maps.. The readability on that awesome 6in screen was amazing. It seems to show a lot more area, and has to be safer to use while driving.

Another missed opportunity by Nokia. Way?
1. No pen. What's the point of having phablet with no pen.
2. Poor overall design (when compared to Samsung Note) - too heavy with massive bezel. AGAIN.
Shame about the excellent camera/ display quality and top components.
The bottom line is if you really want to challenge the best in it's class, you have to make it better. With these major shortcomings, Samsung will not be bothered at all.
I really wanted 1520 to be my next phone. Keep waiting. Will stick to my ATIV S.

Your extremely subjective opinion holds no water compared to all the things that make this a great device in itself, as the review has proven. No device is perfect, but the list of positive, useful, real world, everyday used features is much longer than it's few shortcomings.. Question.. What is the "Samsung Note" thing you speak of❔

The reason that Nokia didnt put a stylus probably had something to do with the fact that Samsung owns Wacom, which means they probably made it so they have a monopoly on the technology in the smartphone/phablet category. Notice how no other OEMs incorporate that technology into their smartphone?

But then what made it to the point that no other OEM, even Android ones, except Samsung uses it on their ARM device? Is it plain stupidity on other OEMs part, or is it that they are not allowed to use it?

I have yet to see anyone use a stupid pen with their phone/phablet. It felt stupid with those PalmPilots and I'm not going back!

I won't call it poor design exactly, but it is indeed not designed for the mass for sure.  It's size and weight are issues for most.  The 206g wieght plus a PMA wireless charging cover amounts to 256g.  Comparing to L929 (166g), it is a full 90g heavier.  The 6" size is certainly too big for most pockets and smaller hands.  Then AT&T offers initially only 16Gb and removes the Qi option add more restrictions for users.  L929 seems to be a cure-all answer for L1520.  It doesn't have microSD.  But if it offers 32GB with a 64GB option, it definitely work for most.  It doesn't have pen, but that is not an issue for me.  I don't see the need to use pen for phone.  I plan to get a L2020 8" tablet which will come with a stylus.

The phone is tempting, but man, why didn't they go for 5 inch.. 5 inch would have been a better seller especially with the holiday season around the corner. I love all Nokia products but they could have taken better advantage of the holidays with a more marketable device. As it stands if you aren't a phablet fan ( most people aren't) you are left with a dilemma: Push past the size for the awesome specs, screen design, or wait for a 5inch successor.Blast you Nokia LOL.

I still say the 1020 should have been 5", then the natural progression would be the 1520 at 6".

If you mean most people in the U.S. then you're probably right. But if you mean most people in the world, then that statement would be debatable because phablet as a category is very popular in Asia, and also gaining ground elswhere other than the U.S.

I guess you are right. I'm an American living/working in germany and the Samsung galaxy phones and Note series phones are quite popular here (at least in Stuttgart, Germany). I am waiting to find it on display out here so that I can hold it and make a decision on getting one or sticking with my Lumia 920. I have made a paper cut-out (lol) of the dimensions of the 1520 to see how it would look in my hands. Yeah I'm that nuts LOL.

I'm really on the fence with this one.  I'm not sure if this is going to be too big or not.  Ahhhh I do really want it though.

LOL, Yep me too. If I do jump on it I will get the international version from like Negri electronics

I also emailed Nokia regarding a trade in program for the 1520 like they have one going now. Lets hope they do it.

Sorce: One of my friend in Marketing Executives and also another friend at Nokia Priority Center.

I too know that 1320 is not listed on Nokia site. But beleived it as i remembered Nokia world's announcements. Asia was included in the availability region wise of 1320 but nothing was said about 1520.

 

1520 will launch first and maybe 1320 later since
1. 1320 is not yet listed on the site. 1520 is.
2. Elop didn't mention India as one of the initial launch markets for 1320. For 1520 it was.

I am Not Nokia to decide. I said Asia which includes India and China which are very important for Windows Phone. Anyways i am just sharing the news which i recived and its upto you to believe it or not. On my side i really hope 1520 to launch as quick as possible.

AT&T debuts the Lumia 1520 with just 16 GB of internal storage and removes Qi-wireless charging to make the device less spectacular. No stylus limits productivity and the six-inch display may be too much for some consumers.

I wll repeat this again, removal of wireless charging and limiting the memory is what it takes to keep the price at $99. 32GB Note 3 on AT&T cost $299 and it doesn't have Wireless charging either.  I agree about your point about lack of stylus support. This is one good thing Samsung with the Note 3

 

Edit: Question to Dan , is the camera app slow ? I've seen a few complaints

It's $199. Don't use the temporary holiday sale price. And the removal of wireless charging is not about keeping costs down, it's about AT&T being a PMA house.

I doubt the price is going to roll back to $199 after the holiday period . EVen if it's $199, it's still a $100 cheaper than similar spec Note 3 ... It's a fair price if you ask me. 

You are again BIAS Rubino. You didn't answer if the shutter speed taking photos are really slow. All the others reviews are saying so, but you are avoiding to answer that. How can I trust on you, if you sound so BIAS like that?

Ummm... It's right in his video review. He comments that it is quicker than both the 920 & 1020. He even took a photo while being videoed so watch it and make your own decision if its slow.

+1  

Also, when someone writes 'edit' it means they wrote it after I responded to the question, meaning I could miss it, which I did.

In short, the 1520 has a faster capture/processing than the 1020...nearly twice as fast.

CNET should learn from you how to review products. You give the freedom to reader to choose. Fair, simple and neat.

+1 WP Central is one of the very few Tech sites that actually rises to the standards of "Journalism", chiefly by requiring both competence and a reasonable degree of unbiased reporting. I said reasonable because WP Central certainly does run 'fanboy' pieces, but they usually make it very clear that is what a particular piece of writing is. Most importantly, they know what they're talking about, and that standard is not met by sites like cnet, BGR, CNN, etc

glad that u said faster capture/processing speeds above... but in the article u said 1020 "lags for shutter", which is incorrect... 1020 has high processing time...

I think a lot of ppl confuse between shutter speed and processing speed...

 

for those who donno... "In photography, shutter speed or exposure time is the length of time a camera's shutter is open when taking a photograph" source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutter_speed

shutter speed is typically a fraction of a second...

I really didn't see any bias here. He took a picture in the video and for my part it didn't look "really slow". Will processing take longer than on an iPhone for instance? You bet.... it isn't that hard to process an image with a lower resolution and processing two images will take longer.. no surprise there.... I believe you are trolling a bit here... I read the reviews on engadget and the verge and they all come to the conclusion that this is a great device...

Shutter speed? You mean photo processing time don't you? If you do mean shutter speed, it is configurable in the manual setting. Refer to neelagopi below to learn the difference between shutter speed and processing time. Please don't copy CNET and misuse technical terms like that, it can cause plenty of confusions later.

Edit: Sorry, neelagopi's comment is above mine, not below.

BTW , I just had a look at AT&T's website , Note 3 still goes for $299 while Lumia 1520 is listed as $99. Anyone asking for 32GB for such a reasonably priced device is nothing but unfair.

How is removing stuff and causing extra trouble for Nokia bringing the price down by 100$ per device.... tell me? It is all about being bad ass PMA member knowing that no phone yt was released with this standard and putting in stones in the Qi way

Even if you ignore the point about Qi/Powermat the arguement about memory still stands.. Note 3 is 32Gb and it sells for $299 heck, it doesn't even have wireless charging to begin with. The same people who are complaining about the 16gb would ahve complained if it went for $299. 

No, not  directly but if you look at the price range of phones, 32 GB/ Snapdragon 800 and 1080p rez normally goes  for $299. 

 

Not sure where you're finding that range - Phones like the LG G2 on Verizon (S800, 1080P screen, 32 GB ram) are currently @ $149 and have been as low as $49 - do your homework.  The S600 phones like the HTC One, Galaxy S4, etc. are dropping to $49 and of course, there's the Nexus 5 @ 16GB, S800, 1080P for $349 and 32GB for $399 off contract.

The "added cost" for Qi charging is next to nothing. Plus, please note that the 1520, 1020, 925 all have the additional connectors and receptors for wireless charging already.
Adding Qi later simply costs Nokia more, the consumer more and weighs down the product - heck, it costs Nokia TONS MORE in manufacturing, distribution, inventory, etc etc. Nokia is taking a huge cost hit here.

This is true. It's literally a coil, that's it, that needs to be added. Costs are minimal and the lack of it doesn't change the size/weight.

Where do the other U.S. carriers stand on Qi? Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, etc.? The 928 on Verizon has built-in wireless charging (is it Qi?) and 32GB. If AT&T are being so fussy about everything, Nokia should start bringing more of their phones to the larger customer base of Verizon

WOw ! you really believe the "cost" of wireless charging is just the cost of the coil ? Have you considered the cost of IP ?

Of course there is cost associated with licensing Qi - that goes without saying, but the license fee is a small fraction of what it's costing Nokia to NOT put in Qi on the phone!?
Do you really think for a second that Nokia wants to design, produce, inventory 4 colors, manage distribution etc. of wireless charging shells? NO!
ROTFLMAO

It's interesting that you're all ignoring the point about storage and basing all your arguments on the fact that wireless charging adds very minimal cost.

Show me a single device on any US carrier with Snapdragon 800/2GB storage /1080p screen that goes for $99 .

How about you stop using subsidised prices to compare cost rather than the unlocked prices of each device. It's not a very accurate way to compare what is and what is not. Take the Lumia 1020 for example, it's subsidised price is as much as the note 3 at launch, but the unlocked price is much lower than the note 3.
Subsidised prices depends on what AT&T is willing to pay, and not completely based on the cost of the device, which makes it unsuitable as a measuring stick.

Both of these decisions by AT&T are bad news for WP. I certainly would not by another phone with only 16Gb of storage unless programs and their data be stored there. I think it shows the ignorance of AT&T, they probably assume that since you can move programs to external storage on Android all phone OS's allow this. Note to MicroSloth - get your arse in gear and add this to WP before all your phones are crippled by the Carriers. And the lack of Qi charging is also a huge mistake. Why should AT&T care? I'll tell you why their Customers should, because many of us invested in Qi charging gear for our Lumia's and won't go without wireless charging again, nor will we junk $100's of gear just at your say so. Personally, this outs me off the 1520 all together. A 32Gb version with a really sleek Qi charging cover maybe, but not this crippled version.

The best selling iPhone is the 16GB version, and you know what ? it doens't even come with a memory card support or wireless charging. People just like to whine for no good reason. 

I agree. I own wireless charging gear, I love it and I loved it on my 920.
Now I have a 1020 and have a wireless charging cover that sits on my JBL speaker and that's where I put my phone when I get home and then it goes into it's wireless stand when I go to sleep!
All the expense of Qi accessories with NFC isn't cheap and once having it, its not a luxury any more.
I would buy my next Lumia at list price from an online retailer if it has Qi and ATT LTE/AWS.

it seems like everyone just forgets about expandable memory... who cares if the base memory is 16 gigs if you can just put your micro sd card in

Repeating stupidity just makes it more stupid. Crippling the memory reduces the actual manufacturing cost of the phone maybe $5. The price just is whatever AT&T makes up.

The same can be said about any device, 16GB iPhone 5s costs , $199 ( on contract ) while the 32Gb version goes for $299 ! Likewise the difference between a 32 GB version Surface 2 and 63 GB version is $100.

It doesn't necessarily mean that adding 16GB more increases the devices costs by $100 , but it's a basic principle that if you want more storage you pay for significantly more.

I wish Verizon didn't bastardize every Nokia design into looking like it was made 5 years prior. Good looking phone but ATT is crap in my area.

I couldn't have a more different experience. In San Francisco my 920 and 1020 on AT&T are consistently and unequivocally always 50% faster on download and a full 2x faster on upload speeds vs my 928 (before I cancelled my Verizon account)
Other than the crappy "visual voicemail" Verizon installs on Windows Phone - that is the sole reason I put all my devices onto AT&T.

To make the device less spectacular...! Very well put. Fortunately i will be getting the full fireworks since we don't have a contract system here

Same here, it's going to be tough. I have to keep reminding myself that even though 16GB is a step up from my current 8GB, 32GB is an even bigger, better step.

Wow!
I have no ideia about DNG files size...
I tought it too big. I understand now why other lumias didn't receveid this update.
How's going to be file size of others lumias (L920, 925, 928, and mainly 1020)?

I expect the DNG files on the L1020 to be twice the size.
The other PureView Lumias will, for some odd reason, not get DNG.

its about 1Mb/ Mp, hence the 1020 DNG file is about 40mb, the 1520 is about 20mb.... soooo
I would guess the 920 DNG file would be about 8mb, 925 to be 9mb.

As of why it wont be getting it, well I would say that WP+Nokia benchmarked the best "apple" and "Samsung" and they are following their footsteps. software wise they are doing the same as apple, new devices get new features, although it most probably would run on older devices, like for example iCloud, hardware wise they are following Samsung, just develop a device for everyone, at the end something must appeal to someone.

that's what I think.

And even doing so couldn't simple answer if the shutter speed is slow or not (like the verge mentioned)....sad...Is Wpcentral becoming a kind Wmpoweruser?

Well, MWC is right around the corner. There may be a better looking phone soon. Or a bigger one if that's your thing ;-)
So, I say go for either a PS4 or XBOX ONE.

I'm sorry, I think the 1520 is a non-starter. For all that size, you might as well get a Galaxy Note 3 with a stylus and split-screen, drag and drop capabilities so you can do things that simply cannot be done with a small-screened device. The downside is that the Galaxy Note has the design aesthetic of dog droppings and you have to deal with a UI that has the look and feel of WinMob circa 2007. 

I am a BIG WinPhone and Win8.1 user and fan. But, I think that putting a device into the phablet space which has so many less capabilities than the Note 3 just forwards the argument that Windows Phone doesn't have what it takes. So, I think it a mistake in the general marketing sense. I would use the HTC One Max as a parallel case of playing in a catergory that you shouldn't. The only potential saving grace being that the phablet space is pretty small so it may not hurt the growing positive reputation of WinPhone. 

So, I think it a mistake in the general marketing sense

Well only the sales will confirm or not this statement. For all I know, WP is a pretty different OS from its competitors, and is reserved to people who doesn't want to deal with android.. at all. And in this very specific category, this phone will be the only 6 inched animal of the family. In that sense, the simple fact of "being big" among smaller Windows Phone might be a viable marketing strategy. 

For all other reviews , they argue that problem is not the hardware, but the softwares gaps and the problem that Windows Phone has to do simply tasks...I hope 8.1 adress all.

Would have to agree, there is nothing that can be done on the 1520 that can't be done on any other Windows Phone. Yea its bigger and higher res etc., but I don't see that to be enough. At least adding stylus capabilities would have put this phone at a higher level with some purpose, especially since Nokia is targeting it at business.

Just because that one particular feature is important to you doesn't make it important for everyone else. I rarely have a need to drag and drop on my desktop so why would this feature be a "non starter" for me? A split screen? I really don't want my eyesight to get any worse. A stylus? Just so I can lose it or fumble around between using it and my finger which willdo the job 95% of the time? The other 5% is my daughter drawing or coloring with it THEN losing it somewhere between the house and the mall? As you said the Galaxy Note has an ugly design and UI which is a pretty major reason not to buy it. It's like telling people to buy an ugly car with a crap interior just so they can have a full panoramic moonroof... a feature that can surely be appreciated once in while but not as much as looking at an ugly car every day. 

Just because that one particular feature is important to you doesn't make it important for everyone else. I rarely have a need to drag and drop on my desktop so why would this feature be a "non starter" for me? A split screen? I really don't want my eyesight to get any worse. A stylus? Just so I can lose it or fumble around between using it and my finger which willdo the job 95% of the time? The other 5% is my daughter drawing or coloring with it THEN losing it somewhere between the house and the mall? As you said the Galaxy Note has an ugly design and UI which is a pretty major reason not to buy it. It's like telling people to buy an ugly car with a crap interior just so they can have a full panoramic moonroof... a feature that can surely be appreciated once in while but not as much as looking at an ugly car every day. 

The 16 gigs is the only let down for me with all the apps that I have installed now on my 920 I have only 6 gigs left.

but at least on the plus size it has sd card support so you can manage your media and have much more than if it didnt.

Ok I have never used an SD card on any WP devices. My question is, does the SD card only handle pics and music? Can it also load and play apps/games?

Buy a 32 GB model and reflash it to use it in yout network (AT&T)
Off-contract is expensive but you also get th REAL wireless charging system :-)

but with the sd card you wouldnt have to worry about music or photos taking up space, considering that this is the first high end nokia phone that has an sd card. you will have 16gb to use just on apps and up to 64gb for media. unless thats not how sd card slots work on windows idk since my 925 is locked to 16 :(.

hi daniel, maybe off topic, but when you buy the 1520 with no contract, is the phone locked?... my brother is in the us next week and he would buy me one to use in belgium.... thx for your reply.

It should not be locked but AT&T frequencies are not used in Europe. You will be much better off waiting for the International version. I bought my 920 in Europe and I have LTE with Tmobile but not with AT&T; not to mention depending on carriers for updates...

Using a Note 3 as my work phone so I'm used to the size

Looking forward to this replacing my Ativ S as my personal

Beautiful device and a solid, candid review. It makes me sad knowing this may be Nokia's last hurrah :(. No other brand in the mobile arena offers the same, unique excitement IMO. 

Great review as always. Don't mind lack of 32GB or Qi charging. It's a nice device but it's not for me. I can't imagine living with a phone that big

Still going to wait for international version, or hold out all together until 8.1comes around with new devises. I made huge mistake and got 900 when 920 were a few,months away. Don't want that to happen, especially if they will by some miracle bring stylus support to the future handsets.

Daniel- does the 16MP image upload automatically to Skydrive or is it only the 5MP image?  

Hi Daniel,

Just wondering; as you have pretty much any choice of WP8 phones, what do you choose to be your "daily driver"? Do you think you could use this phone as your daily device?

 

I still can't justify their move to release a 6'' phone while everyone else is emphasizing on 5'', I still have to wait until they release a 5'' FHD+slim bezels phone!

** Was that a BMW you driving Daniel?

I was thinking the same thing. Some people care more about how others see them rather than how they see themselves. Be a leader, the attention and be the talking point.

This! 5" with a small bezel, 1080p and Quad-Core. Hopefully this comes next year with WP8.1.

It woud be nice to download RAW image files and actually play with them in Lightroom or CameraRAW and see what's what :)

Nice review, I really like the device! 

I want a compact 920 with the 20MP camera and 3000mAh battery.. Opt out of wireless charging if you want and I'd be happy with Snapdragon 600 too.. :D

Best line:  "with AT&T neutering the device with only 16 GB of storage,"

 

HAHAHA awesome

AT&T has chopped the memory in half, taken out wireless charging and lastly sell the tablet only in the black color. Why don't they just save all the stress and just don't sell Nokia devices in the first place.

I don't agree with you and Daniel on this. 16GB plus SD. Lighter and no Qi is fine since we all have a dozen cables around. And if you don't want black, you wait a while.

What about the fact that the OS is useless on a 6 inch device? I mean you still can't add a bullet list in Word or create a OneNote notebook.

Yeah, whenever I see or hear someone say, "it has Office!" I cringe. It is one of the biggest half-truths about WP.

My thoughts as well - despite the larger display, everything will appear to the user to be nearly the same (just larger). Apps see the screen as just a 720p display. You’re still stuck with extremely basic versions of Office apps.

And for gaming or media streaming which are generally better on a larger display, well why would anyone get a Windows Phone for that (instead of Android)? There’s no HBO Go, or Amazon Instant Video, (or laughably, not even Xbox Video yet, though it’s supposedly coming soon) and tons of games releases lag behind on WP.

Don’t get me wrong, I use a Lumia 1020 as my phone and still mostly like Windows Phone. It’s just that in this specific case there’s zero real advantage to the larger screen other than it just being a larger screen. The size just exaggerates WP’s weaknesses. It almost seems like Nokia just treated it as a bullet point more so than anything else.

Question? Can anyone give me a idea where I would be able to buy the international version of this device and the tablet in cyan blue?

Nice, but too big. And as for gaming, with fewer Xbox games being released I wouldn't say any Windows Phone is good for gaming since you don't get anything over the fruit or spydroid gaming experience.

I couldn't see myself using this as anything other than a mini-tablet. If used as a phone you'll get a lot of odd looks and laughter... Or if used with a Bluetooth headset people will assume you're a douchebag.

The 1520 may actually prove the need for MS buying Nokia and thus fusing the software and hardware teams. Hardware wise, the 1520 is a great specimen, but software wise, WP8 lacks any real "phablet" features other than 1080p support and the additional column of tiles. My hope is that after MS incorporates Nokia, we will see more coordinates product launches.

Really?
BGR
The Lumia 1520 is the first Windows Phone to fall into the supersized smartphone category, and while it is late to the game, it actually does a better job than most Android phablets at scaling the interface up to a larger display size. By that I mean that many Android phablets simply take the same amount of content that would be displayed on a normal sized smartphone and enlarge it to fit a massive display.

Nokia’s 1520, on the other hand, keeps interface elements roughly the same size as they would be on a smaller Windows Phone, so it packs more into each frame. This is a far better approach to making a phablet in my opinion. The device makes use of its larger display at all times by fitting more content onto every screen. This benefit doesn’t exist with many third-party apps, of course, since they would have to be tweaked by the developers in order to make use of the extra canvas.

There way too many "That's what she said" moments in this article and in the comments for me.  I've got to go to work!

Solid reviews always, Daniel. I played with one in the AT&T store and left impressed. If I didn't buy a T100 tablet, this would be great for me as a student. AT&T still finds a way to take advantage of its customers...sigh...

Fair review Daniel, I am glad you lambasted AT&T for their meddlesome behavior. I think which version of the phone you buy will depend on how much you use the internal storage.

Removal of the Qi wireless charging and drop from 32 gigs to 16 gigs killed this for me, and I was very much looking forward to this device. I will wait for an unlocked version with the Qi wireless charging and 32 gigs, and with the FCC demanding that all phones not under contract be unlocked from the carrier I am hoping this will be available soon.

[Insert comment regarding T-Mobile's mediocrity here for me please since I'm tired of commenting on such regard already]

Agreed...so i just bought my devices outright from the MS store and ported my numbers from AT&T. No more AT&T $150/mo overhead. As long as TMo continues to improve reception and availability, I'll probably continue to buy phones and keep the cheap service...

He puts in the review as a negative "Yellow is limited in availability".

So I guess he couldn't get a yellow one.

I myself don't see how that's really "negative". I find it most natural as the majority of consumers tend to prefer black or white devices. And yellow isn't exactly gold, which seems to be the new fad.

Nice review, Daniel!

I'm glad to know the phone's good. It's certainly not for me (I won't go over 5") but eventually some people will like it (and I obviously mean normal people, not fans).

The lack of support for a stylus is really odd though, specially since Nokia is no stranger to the technology, with the Nokia 5800 Xpress-Music, with only 3.2" having a stylus.
My guess is that the lack of stylus support is, again, a limitation to be blamed on Microsoft more than Nokia.

As for AT&T's butchering of the phone...well, I'm European, I couldn't care less. Not my problem. BUT it does reinforce my position on the subject: Nokia should have NEVER bound to whims of American carriers. They take the phone as it is and shut up. If they don't want, there's world outside the US.

Great review. I was happy to see the white model in action since that is the one I am ordering. In my experience the phone looks huge but it doesn't feel awkward at all when I hold it in my hand. I've been waiting for a large size Windows Phone since before phablets existed, so the1520 is perfect. I'm very excited about the display, the audio and the camera. The charging issue is a bummer but otherwise this phone looks like it will be ideal for my needs.

Darn...even 1020 havent released in my country.... Too add the tragedy.... My country is one of the biggest handphone market in the world... Nokia, you better sort your distribution line... Dont make mistake like HTC, focusing only on one specific market (europe)...

I can see under Setting- System Microsoft has still not arranged the grouping as per alphabetical order. What's the logic behind it?

I like the style of these videos Mark Guim does. Great review ... but I still won't know until I hold it in hand but secretly I know it is huge and while the screen real estate is awesome, I am not convinced of stuffing a 6 inch screen in my pocket.

"viewing angle is astonishing (tipping the device at 180 degrees, you can still read the display)"

Really? Just below that text is a picture of the phone at 90 degrees left or right. Well, I can't even see the display let alone read the display.

The same Nokia Devices engineers still design the phones...
AND it takes at least a ½ year to complete a project so even if the name "Nokia" drops of from a Lumia phone and the sign above the office building in Finland changes to "MICROSOFT" the next Lumia will still bring in the same awesome Lumia feeling as before

Good luck taking very many raw photos with that 16 gb of internal storage. Usually, it's Verizon that cripples all their flagships. Sad to see AT&T do it, especially with something other than an Android phone.

Nice review, however, you said it will (ought to) work with bluetooth 4.0, but have you actually tried? Or is it only theory?

Could you test the 1520 with i.e. Polar H7 (bluetooth 4.0 LE) or similar heart rate/health/4.0LE devices?

So, that one is complicated. 4.0 will always "work" as it is backwards compatible. For HR monitors, it should work with the Adidas miCoach HR monitor. That's because you need both the hardware (LE) support and the app written. So far, only the Adidas miCoach is supported AFAIK but other companies could write their own apps.

I think MS/Nokia still need to release the LE API though, not too sure.

Thanks for the info. But could you test something Bluetooth with the Adidas app? But ok, if ms release a 4.0 LE api it will become compatible in the future.

Wondering this myself. Nokia should make Qi-compatible covers with maybe after-market companies making both PMA and Qi-compatible covers and see which one sells better.

Daniel - according to the review, the $99 price will hold through Friday.

 

Does that mean we should be able to get the 1520 + 2520 package deal for $300 on Friday?

 

Thanks

Awesome - thank you much for checking on this - it's driving me crazy not knowing what the deal will be on Friday. :)

Thanks again

Am I the only one who can't see the resemblance between the 1520 and the 720? I've always compared it to the 925 in terms of design. Not because of the camera hump, but because of the corners, as well.

Anyway, it is a gorgeous phone, with off-the-charts specs and one of the most amazing cameras out there. When I'm done with my 925 and ready to move to a bigger screen, this will surely be my thing. Until then, I might wait to see and compare the 929, too. 6-inches might be a little bit too much for me

Does anyone know when the international version will be released? Im not liking the 16 gigs on the ATT version.

Daniel, can you make a little speed comparison between the Lumia 1020 and the 1520? I'm curious how much faster it really is!

Any info on when preorders will ship? I ordered on the MS store... I heard rumors about shippment starting on the 19th... is this credible?

I have been wondering this myself, can we see maybe a quick video of a few Gameloft titles. I would love to see if NOVA 3 and Order & Chaos Online run any smoother.

I fail to see how 16gb internal memory with a micro sd slot if a negative...
I would trade the world for 16gb internal and a micro sd slot on my Lumia 1020 (especially if it does get RAW capabilities). I think the removal of wireless charging decreses depth and weight.

It's a negative only because Nokia intended the device to be 32 GB. Combined with a few 1 GB heavy games (which can't go on the card), space can go fast. Fact is, a 'flagship' phone should have 32 GB.

Well according to apple a flagship device shouldn't have expandable memory either.
I would still much rather have 16gb onboard and the option of unlimited memory through memory cards than the 32gb limit on my 1020.

Now if it were the 925 which is just 16gb I would agree with you, because that is basically useless.
I know near a dozen lumia users (myself included) and not a one of them has installed a single 1gb game let alone multiple. I have one large game on my phone Spartan Assault. The rest are small quick games. Your argument should instead be that the phone should be able to install apps and games to the memory card because even with a 32gb on board that space goes quickly. My 1020 routinely has less than 5gb of space and I have virtually no music on the device or videos (that I did not capture). I take pictures and videos and that is what is important to me. Intese gaming on a phone uses too much battery life anyways. I really feel that those who install large games as you have mentioned are in the clear minority.

Played around with this thing for a few minutes at the store. Gigantic for sure, but it felt great to use. I can imagine this sitting in a messenger bag while on the go, either with a bluetooth headset or something. Not sure it would fit comfortably in most pockets.

It's sad that the Nokia brand as we know it is going away, but at least they are going away in such a big way (pun intended)

A shame it is not avaliable yet in Latin America, and probably will be in a long future, but priced at two GS4 worth of money 

I just saw one in the store and it is huge.. I guarantee it is way bigger than you are thinking. That said it is awesome and I will probably get one.

I agree, I laughed when i first saw it. It really is bigger than one would expect. Especially when the Note 3 looks small in comparison

 

but NOTHING like the Sony Ultra
 

In fairness to Tom, he didn't write that review. But still, it's an odd thing to highlight since it's being "fixed" real soon. It seems odd to potentially obsolete your criticism by the time this device ends up in people's hands. But that's me.

I'm not even against mentioning it as a negative, just add context and mention how it may not really be an issue by the time it hits store shelves.

I read the twitter conversation...I am with you on this.

TBH: its not really not..much of a big deal to be marked as negative

I wish Nokia would standardize on 4.5, 5.0, and 5.5" screens. The 1520 is better than the Samsung Mega in usability (I'm not sure why but it feels better in the hand) but is still too big.

I basically agree. Having said that, I'm very confident that the reason this is a "1520" and not an "1120" is because Nokia will fill in the gaps with "in between" devices. They just went to the extreme end first ;)

I can't wait for the VZ variant of this phone, the 929. This gives me a pretty good indication of it. I think, overall, I'll have to play with it to see if the massive size is worth the upgrade. I have big hands and long fingers, but it is SUCH a massive jump in terms of hardware! I'm stoked!!

It's actually really great, but you don't really know it until you try. Right now people who haven't tried it yet probably don't buy a phone just bacause of that, but ever since I bought the L920 I can't seem to live without it. 

On my office desk and beside my bed, it's awesome. Whenever I have to use the USB now it just feels wrong :) 

my wireless charger is on my desk at work and my bed table. i have never open the charger that comes with my 920 ever since, it still in the box.

I've read a couple of reviews today about the 1520 all were saying it was the best wp8 to date except those apple loving butt munchers the verge.

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