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Folders finally coming to Windows Phone through Nokia’s Lumia Black update

Details coming later on Nokia's latest user-requested feature for Windows Phone 8

Earlier today we covered some details on the Nokia’s Lumia Black update that is beginning to rollout in China and other countries around the globe. We now have more details on new features within Lumia Black and the availability of the rollout. Information ahoy!

The Lumia Black firmware already comes on devices like the Lumia 1520, but now it’s rolling out for the Lumia 1020 and Lumia 925 smartphones. Other devices will get the update in the coming weeks. Nokia has a support page on their site where you can check on the status for both the Amber and Lumia Black updates depending on your region and carrier.

What’s new in the Lumia Black update? There’s a couple of new features and improvements in imaging. Look forward to things like:

  • App Folder
  • Nokia Glance Screen 2.0
  • Bluetooth LE
  • Nokia Refocus
  • Nokia Beamer
  • Nokia Storyteller
  • Nokia Camera

Folders!

The biggest surprise is the addition of folders into Windows Phone. App folders will allow users to group similar apps and settings into one folder as a tile on your Start screen. A mod from Nokia Conversations replied in the comments of the corresponding blog post announcing the rollout and said that “we’ll bring more details on that in a future post” when answering how app folders will work. This is a heavily requested feature among many Windows Phone users and those running Lumia Black will be able to take advantage of it.

Samsung previously delivered Folders to their Windows Phone users via an app, and we imagine this will be the case here. So stay tuned.

Glance 2.0 and more

The second version of Nokia’s Glance Screen improves upon the core functionality and feature set from when it initially launched. The version in Lumia Black allows you to see notifications from your favorite apps like Twitter, Facebook, or WhatsApp. All devices with Lumia Black will also have Bluetooth Low Energy enabled (BT4.0). This allows for devices like heart rate monitors or fitness trackers to keep a stable connection and not drain the battery for either device.

There are a handful of apps from Nokia that require Lumia Black to work. Apps like Storyteller, Beamer, and Refocus will be available to those with Lumia Black. There are certain limitations for what some of those apps can do on some hardware. For example, Nokia Refocus will only work with devices that have at least 1GB of RAM. Of course Nokia Camera now works from the Lumia 520 to Lumia 1520, but it really sings on higher end hardware.

In terms of imaging, Lumia Black improves image quality (especially in the Lumia 1020) with a new set of algorithms. Images should look more natural with reduced noise in low-light situations.

When do you get the update? Soon. Like we said, it’s rolling out right now to the Lumia 1020 and Lumia 925 globally. Check your specific carrier on this support page.

Source: Nokia Conversations, Lumia Black availability  

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Folders finally coming to Windows Phone through Nokia’s Lumia Black update

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All Lumias will get it. However, the "preview" isn't really a preview after all. It's the final version ;) So you only get the Black Update without GDR3 (because you already have it).

IMO, it shouldn't have live tiles inside folders. The folder tiles itself already small (medium sized tiles). Naturally, those inside a folder would have much smaller size compared to the folder (which is already in minimum size for live tiles. Smaller than this and you'll only get icons). So, how do we read those information (within the live tiles within folders) if it's already that small?

I've had this update on my 1020 for some time.  There are definetely no Folders currently enabled, so it will have to come in some later form.

 

The other features are quite nice, but I'd trade them all for soem Folder functionality!

920 GDR3 previes +1! This is AWESOME! Been a NOKIA fan for more than 10 years, they never fail me! (Not even with Symbian... I'm die hard.. haha!)

Agreed, this article is incredibly confusing as written... I've had Black on my 1020 for weeks and there are no folders.... Seems like that should be a separate article or at least clearly stated that it is not in Black.

I wonder how many people are looking at your link above...It sheds alot of light on the folder questions lol. People look at the link above before you go any further down

The 'App Folder' app is already in the Store, just search for it 'App Folder'.
For anyone else reading my comment, the apps you move to the folder you create, are not shown as Live Tiles, rather they show as mini icons inside the folder.

To be honest with my 1520, I cannot think of any good use for this app? I mean I didn't feel there was a need for this app. Maybe somebody can point out how it can be put to good use.

Additionally it's worth noting that the App Folder is a running task in the background, not sure why, but just in case I guess it's a good idea to block it, preventing some nasty battery drain surprises.

you just did, twice haha. Anyway it's a neat way to approve a comment, indicate hardware and show solidarity with your fellow wp users... all things considered (e.g. youtube comments) i see nothing wrong with this behavior.

Woohoo! Meron na sa Pinas na update. Nakalagay kasi sa Globe wala pa. Although unlocked yung sa akin. Going to update mine as soon as I get home. Hope the images will look better with the new algorithms.

So is there any reason why I can't already see this App folder stuff on my 'Black" Lumia 1020? no one is reporting about that?

Yeah, it is a bit misleading, at least for me. The way the post reads implies that Black automatically includes folders. I've had Black on my 1520 since launch. No folders yet. It seems it is a system "app" (that isn't available yet) that is only enabled with Black.
That's how I understand it, at least.

I was able to install the app on my Lumia 920 running Amber with GDR3 preview from one of the above links.  You should try also - it's not an unreleased system app.

That's the joy of it being a option. If you like it use it. If you don't like it don't use it. By having the option it can attract more users.

I do too but grouping like apps and settings could save space. It would cool if the folder was a live tile and they showed updates from the apps.

Has anyone at Nokia clarified how the App Folders are accessed? I've had Black on my 1020 for weeks now and as far as I can tell, I don't have this feature.

I think they may release a system app that will enable folders. I have Black installed on my 1020 as well, but no folders.

will nokia glance screen also come in lower end Lumia devices?

as we all also want notifciations on glance screen

I have Lumia720

That's hardware limitations and not software. All 520 and 625 does not have clear black display. No idea why 720 can't have glance.

Considering that image is of a device on O2 - UK with folders? I don't think they have that carrier in China.

That is what some of the Chinese media said, but looks like app folder is for all, but incoming call location and carrier display is still only for China.

What I really want is the opportunity to add folders in the album so I could organized my photos directly on the and not only through a computer

I'm not sure why people are so gaga about folders.
You wouldn't even be able to see the live tiles that make Windows Phone stand out from the crowd.
If you just have a sea of non-animated, small, icons, then it looks like every other IOS or Android phone.

For me, the ability to add folders means I can group a few apps together at the bottom of my screen. It doesn't make sense to all, but having those options is critical to moving the platform forward. I personally want to group several categorized apps together that I have to hunt for. (what are my navigation choices again...? Nokia maps, oh no it's called HERE, Waze, and CoPilot). Having them all in a folder means I get to choose.

That may not be the best example since I actually do have those as live tiles, but you start to see why this may be great for others and we want as many folks liking alternatives as we can to grow the platform.

For me I keep FB Twitter LinkedIn personal email all small tiles as I wouldn't want a client to see something on my phone that's not for them so keeping in a folder and show a counter on the folder would be perfect for me. Other things I have double wide and wouldn't make sense to put in a folder. The best thing about this as a option is if you don't like it you don't have to use it.

I agree. The thing that would be cool is opening a folder took you to a second live tiled screen with whatever apps you put in that folder.  You could stay organized and keep the live tile experience.

I really hate how the writers of WPCentral write some of these articles. It's as if they don't actually know anything. Any reasonable person writing an article talking about app folders coming with the Nokia Black Update and already on the 1520 should at least note something to the effect of, "Please note: this is a feature that requires Black, but is NOT yet available. Nokia says this functionality will be unlocked in the next couple of weeks."

They talk about getting the Black Update, but fail to make it obvious that Folders aren't currently available. If they knew how to use them, they should have told us how to access them. They obviously know very few details.

If you find everyone asking the same question in the comments, you probably didn't do something right.

I read the entire article Sam. It does nothing to anticpate the questions that you should have known would be there. Everyone is asking the same thing. Did you not ask that same question?

I totally understand why people are confused. You spent a lot of time talking about this feature being enable with the Black update. I really don't want to have to read between the lines in a news article. It isn't an editorial.

Sam I commend you on your patience, the surge of unhealthy b*tchiness on the part of some WPC posters these past few months is insane.

The headline AND article content completely misrepresent the situation.  Naturally people are going to call you out on it.  And your response is an insult?  Unbelievable.

Not to mention that this is the same guy that made the bogus claims that the update to the 925 was coming - still waiting for mine. Pretty shoody if you ask me.

Chill man. They did their stuff right. They make an effort to bring quality and trustworthy news on a daily basis. They can't spoonfeed you. They write articles not only headlines. Read everything properly. Smile. Be on your way.

I love WPCentral. But don't put an article title talking about folders and then not even have the word folder in the first paragraph. It is basic journalism 101. Oh, now it makes sense...

I love WPCentral but in this particular case the complaint is completely warranted. I read the whole article and was still completely confused why it seemed to be saying that folders are included with Black.

Why is there no info on the folders? I updated to black and gdr 3 on my at&t 1020 a couple of weeks ago but haven't seen any option to create a folder. Does anyone have any info on this?

Nooooo. I hate folders. They have always sucked on computers, but were there because old habit.
Now, with touch technology and much more advanced ways of organizing based on tags, search, and grouping (as in Windows 8.1), they are completely unnecessary, and enabling developers and users to have them again is a step backwards. Argh.

It's not about more options, it's about moving away from the core promise (or premise) of WP. The live tiles were not meant to be hidden behind folders. And I'm afraid that if this becomes the default way to do things, the already tepid support for live tiles will, due to laziness on both developers and users part, be even less appealing.

But yes, we don't have to use it. I just hope few people do.

Cuz it looks a little too sexy? Has amazing music output on headphones and feels amazing to hold?
Don't regret what is awesome man :)

I really think WPC should change the title of this article cause its not bundled with the black update maybe you need the black update when it comes out but its not bundled.

Not sure if I need groupes that way they look on screenshots though I have alot of tiles of different sizes on my start screen all grouped with sense, but I'm happy with those who needs them.

Loving Black/Update3 simply bcoz i recovered over 2GB of memory on my 1020. Next to test beamer. Tried it a few weeks ago on 1520 and loved it.

Arghh it says it's available for my phone and network but my phone says up to date, i'm not patient enough!

My response from Nokia Care on Twitter:

Nokia Care US ‏@NokiaCareUS 9s

We're unable to comment on future releases. We'll post from here when we have more info. to share. ^GS

Everytime I see someone alter the start screen, particularly to fit more tiles, I want to scream, "leave Britney alone!!!" in agony and despair (but about live tiles, of course).

Honestly I am more worried about the camera than the app folder. I am looking forward to have a natural color of pictures taken by Nokia Camera on my Lumia 920. The pictures I am having on my phone are yellowish, blurred and noisy.

I've been trying to be ever so patient in waiting for the Black update, but wanted to cry when I saw that my phone is one of only 3 in the entire world that will not get the update. Poor L810... T_T

Its been a great phone for me, but I started to get suspicious when T-Mobile never sold the Cyan charging shell. Then it all went downhill with the EOL death sentence. I held onto the hope that Nokia would still come through with updates at least until it hit 2 years...

They did sell the charging shells in select stores in black and cyan. Nokia teased images of red and grey, which never came out in stores IIRC, but you could find one or two on eBay. That phone is tough as nails, though.

Apparently we 810 users are not alone. Five phones won't get updated, showing "Not Available" in the availability pages:
810 - T-Mobile (North America-USA)
520 - 3 Italy (Europe-Italy)
720 - Wind (Europe-Italy)
720T - CMCC (Asia Pacific-China)
925T - CMCC (Asia Pacific-China)

Really wanted the black update but nothing for t-mobile Lumia 810. I guess I will wait for the new phones with 8.1

Sure is nice to be able to create a photo folder, maps, etc. Hope the 920 gets this soon though im pretty much sure I'm gonna have to change region again to get the update sometime before Christmas in Portugal.

I like WP but can we all just admit this is a reflection of the failure of leadership of Joe Belifore and Terry Myerson? The fact nokia and samsung are listenging and have to work around horrible bakdoor solutions to give windows phone, a struggling platform, a feature which everybody else has had for years reflects poorly on the leadership of these two men.

I recall nokia fixed the MSFT storage bug with an app that would at least clean the temp files. MSFT solution was to essentially reset your phone.

this level of commitment to their customers is to be praised nokia. and this level of sheer indiference towards their biggest fans is to be a shame on you microsoft. Why these two windows phone leaders are running the show, and even IE is beyond me. I get it that Steven Sinfosky's epic failures set the ground for this group to take over...but MSFT essentially replaced the bully with the flunkies.

And windows phone blue may as well be called windows phone threshold because that's when it will be out...if ever.

Oh take a chill pill and relax.

What are the leadership failures of Joe Belfiore and Terry Myerson that you alluding too? It can't be easy developing a mobile operating system and come up against the criticsm from the outside world (including ones from yourself) and still honor some of the requests us users make an a daily basis.

As with any operating system development, mobile or otherwise, some features are not a priority or more work is needed. Take the very first iPhone as a prime example it didn't launch with 3G while every other mobile platform had it for years, it simply needed more work and refinement.

Of course if you think you can do a better job at leading the Windows Phone development team, i'm sure Microsoft would love to hear from you and listem to your words of wisdom on how to better lead the development team. These guys after all have years of tried and tested experience, what do you have?

There were no failures from Steven Sinfosky's development team, Windows 7 is testimony to this. Windows 8 wasn't perfect but what operating system is?

when google released android, years behind iOS, they didn't make the same excuses you're making for the WP team. And given the task wasn't any easier, yet google delivered where MSFT hasn't, one has to wonder why microsoft should get a pass at all. WP has been in the market since 2011, and failed to catch up. You can make excuses for it but the fact remains: 2013 saw no significant movement in the WP front development, just as android and iOS did. They are facing just as hard a task, yet somehow, only WP seems to be stuck in the mud. And yes, the blame goes to the leadership. who else?

and if you think Sinfosky's team didn't fail, whre is he at now? gone. all of his men except Julie Larson have left, and she was pretty much removed from windows development. Take it as you will but when the poeple most directly repsonsible for windows 8 are all working elsewhere, it says something about it NOT being remotely a success.

nothing says broken more than when your OEMs fix your basic OS flaws for you because you're not listening to customers. This isn't the type of enhancment you see on android, which is often just bloat to differenciate because the OS is so complete. This is is more like plugging basic holes WP has ignored. Consider this, the WP calendar has not changed since 2001 and it still cannot display week view. And month view is so small you can't read it, or see your colored calendar appts there. Open the iOS calendar and see how much better it is and how much it has evolved. but who'd want a calendar on their phone right? The list goes on.

I've owned a WP since day one. every iteration and every release. even created apps for it. And yet what I see from the WP dev team is nothing more than just inability to ship, unwillingness to listen, and failure to address even basic essential functionality the competition mastered, and double mastered what it seems like an eternety ago.

so get down your horse and face reality. things aren't going well since if they were, nokia and samsung wouldn't be desperately trying to "fix" windows phone for microsoft.

I have a 928, does this give me gdr3?? I came from an 8x and not being able to close apps or have customs ring tones is killing me....

Woohoo I almost tried the workaround to install other manufacturer's apps to bring the Samsung folders app to my 920.

Samsung had this useless feature for a while now, so it's not "finally coming"... It's great that Nokia added that, but after the first two days of excitement you'll see it's pointless, and uninstall it.

BTW I installed the app in the link from my post above on my Lumia 928 running Amber and GDR3 (from developer site) and can make and pin folders.

My AT&T 1020 already updated to Nokia Black, still no app folder, Nokia beamer, and story teller.

On AT&T, listed as "waiting for approval" on the linked site.

Based on what I remember from the Amber update, I should be able to download it in about a year.  *grumble*

I would love to get the update. However,it asks me to connect to WiFi to continue the d/l. Strange,as I already am connected to my WiFi. Anyone have some insight as to what the problem may be?

Updated to black, cant see what the fuss is about, cant see nothing special .... Unless someone can point something out

Black enables other Nokia apps that you wouldn't have access to that rely on it. They are getting smart and making their apps installable instead of baked into the OS. They do require certain functionality to be enabled through the firmware update though. Sam did a great job of putting the cool features of Black into a bulleted list. If you don't like those things, then Black isn't a big deal for you. I love the new Glance 2.0 screen that puts my notifications on the glance screen...worth price of admission right there.

But you need GDR3 to get Black. GDR3 does cool stuff like allows you to setup a bluetooth connection between your Windows 8.1 computer and your GDR3 based phone to auto-tether your Internet to your computer without having to go deep into your phones settings and turn on the Tethering. All you have to do is click on your phone's network connection in Windows and BAM! You are on the Internet in a couple of seconds. Great feature that doesn't get much press. But you may not need it if you don't want to tether a windows laptop or tablet.

Just downloaded using the proxy trick. After setting up the proxy, just searched for App Folder in the store and it showed up. It is just an app with resizeable tiles option. Nonetheless, slick !

I have a Lumia 920 Dev unlocked, GDR3, but no Lumia Black. So, you don't need Lumia Black for this app.

Finally a less cluttered homescreen.  :-)

Well, multitasking enchancements are obvious. DNG fun was really short when I couldn't copy DNG file to my Linux PC with error notice:

Error getting file: -6: Not Supported.

Same things goes with *NAR files smart camera makes but there's really nothing to do with them on my linux box. DNG on the other hand is well recognized and supported on Linux, so its just Lumia1020 that doesnt give these types of files other than JPG.

 

I'm seriously disappointed.

 

 

I had a Samsung 7.8 device and an HTC 7.8 device. Meanwhile every other day this site had an article talking about some cool new Nokia feature. That is when I said I had to get a Nokia phone. Anything less is seriously worthless. IMHO.

Man I hear ya... I had a Nokia 710 on T-Mobile which was a great little device. I never realized how much better Nokia was - both the software and hardware was miles ahead of anything else. The hardware on the HTC 8x isn't bad, it has a nice screen and stuff. But it also will reboot itself every week or so - my Nokia never did that.  Thank god for the Fiddler trick. I just got this App folders thing on my 8x, but if it wasn't for that everyone who wasn't on Nokia would be screwed.

I would really like to see Microsoft's purchase of Nokia be approved. Hopefully they would start to distribute some of the more innovative software as a feature of WP and not a Nokia feature.

Did my other comment get deleted? Was your reply moved to this Voxophone guys comment?  Wtf?  Lame ass moderators I guess.  He must be one of those "Nokia fuckers" I was referring to and got offended.  It was a joke, jeez.  It's me being bitter and jealous.

Folders works fine for me on Amber, but I have GDR3. Does it not work on GDR2?

One problem with folders is they don't work with everything, just apps. So you can pin an app, but not necessarily a tile. One app could have many tiles in WP so app folders aren't quite as complete a solution as they are in Android and iOS. Also, I can't put sideloaded apps in the folder either.

The App Folder is in the store!  Just installed it!  I wish it would 'open' the apps on top of the tiles instead of opening a new 'app.'  Seems like it takes a second to load.  Nothing major, and definitely not complaining, just saying.  Thanks Nokia!

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