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AT&T sitting on Samsung Tango updates for Windows Phone. Here's how to get it now.

Samsung has the Tango update but AT&T is not pushing it

Although AT&T itself is not pushing out any Tango-8773 updates for its current Windows Phones, the OEMs evidently have it on tap, or at least Samsung does.

We’ve had isolated reports that the Focus S was getting two OS updates (some are reporting new firmware, we’re still at 2103.11.10.1). However, whenever George Ponder or I would plug in our Focus S devices, it was always reported back to us that we had the latest update (7740).

The trick is to rig the system—basically use the same trick many of you did for Mango where you put your phone into Airplane mode (disable all radios), plug into Zune and check for an update. You then navigate away and go back to “Check for update” but as soon as it starts to look (about 2 seconds) you kill your internet on your PC. Now you wait about 30 seconds and an update will be shown. For more info on how that works, read our tutorial here.

You need to do that at least twice—once for 8112 and again for 8773 (Tango)—but yes, it does work and it’s officially from Samsung. We manually installed 8107 back in the day, so our phone was already on that OS version. The majority of you will need to upgrade to 8107, then presumably it will go to 8112 or 8773.

The changelog for Windows Phone 8112/8773 on the Focus S

So why is this happening? We can only speculate that Samsung has delivered the update to AT&T but the carrier is either holding it, still evaluating it, not releasing it or maybe they’re waiting on HTC and Nokia to do a universal roll out. Honestly, your guess is as good as ours.

We also have heard this works for the Focus Flash and possibly the Focus 2 (we manually installed Tango on our Focus 2 so can’t really verify). In other words, for all of you Samsung users who are on AT&T (and even non-branded versions), feel free to try this method to grab some updates.

We’ll keep you posted if anything official happens in the meantime.

Daniel Rubino
Executive Editor

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

235 Comments
  • I just got my update message from Rogers to update my Lumia 900. Updating right now.
    (OS 7.10.8112.7)
  • I'm also on Rogers and did the trick described to get 8337. Does your firmware change?
  • I can confirm this works for rogers devices. I used the trick this morning to update my focus :) . Although i cant use the new features until the 16, when my data plan resets :( i went over...
  • This doesn't work for my Rogers Lumia 710
  • Try the instrucitons  here: http://www.wpcentral.com/force-mango-update-early-through-zune-software
    I used the same instructions to update my Rogers/Lumia 900 to 7.10.8112.7 then to 7.10.877398. Other than the OS version, i didn't notice any other changes to software/firmware/hardware versions.
    I was going to download the Camera extras update but its still stating the app is not available for your device... BOO.
  • Got it working on my wifes 710 (Rogers)...took a few tries.  Also updated my original focus and am gonna try an old LG also.
  • Is the firmware showing after you do? I need to do my Focus. It worked on my Lumia 900 but no firmware changes
  • Is there something like this for the Radar 4g?
  • Can somebody please refresh my memory? Tell me, in order to even want to attempt the force update method, doesn't the carrier have to release the update first? In other words, I have no use even attempting the force update method on my HTC Arrive, because Sprint has not released the Tango update in the first place. Is that statement correct? Or..... can the force update method work to the HTC Arrive even though Sprint itself has not released Tango? Which is it?
    I know I did the force update for Mango on my Arrive, but I think I had to at least wait for Sprint first...... i think.....
  • The force method works because the carrier/OEM have the official update for your specific device, but we circumvent their lock to get it. You often get the firmware too. Manually updating via the CAB method is not official and has no firmware but it patches the OS. It's a general, universal OS patch. If the force method isn't working, it's because your carrier/OEM has no official update for your device ready. That's the case for a lot of people.
  • You have wait for.sprint to release it. Either just wait for.7.8 upgrade
  • After reading this artice I decided to go ahead and do the "force trick".  I put my phone in ariplane mode and was ready to unplug my internet connection but before I had the opportunity I was notified an update was available...Focus Flash owner.   I'll reply back with all of the updates which get installed.
  • What carrier are you on? AT&T possibly?
  • AT&T.  All I did was put my phone into Airplane mode and then connect to my computer. (didn't need to disconnect internet connection)   It's on the 2nd update now. 7.10.8107.79
  • 5 Updates Installed:
    7.10.7740.16
    7.10.8107.79
    7.10.8112.7 (This one isn't even listed on the Microsoft Update history page)
    7.10.8773.98
    Samsung Update
     
     
  • Scrolling is definitely faster after update. I'm assuming this is part of the Samsung update.
  • This shows you how.stupid.att.is for not pushing it out. Glad not in this service
  • Will this affect the 7.8 update??
  • I can't get this trick working. Can someone on Focus Wireshark the update paths?
  • Lenovo! :D
  • They're not sitting on it - Tango was pushed out to my Focus S on AT&T last Friday. I suspect it's just a slow rollout.
  • Pretty sure it's not. Go to the AT&T forums, our forums or anywhere else and you'll see this is not being pushed out nor has AT&T announced it/made a comment on it. George and I have been checking everyday since Friday with nothing--that's not a slow rollout, that's no rollout.
  • So how did I get it? I got a push notification that updates were available, plugged into Zune, and updated to Tango. They might be pushing out slowly to a few devices, but it's not being repressed by the evil carrier.
  • Maybe it was an accidental release by AT&T...
  • I got it as well, same deal with a notice on my phone on the 28th of June and I installed it the next day (friday the 29th)
     
    AT&T Samsung Focus S
    OS: 7.10.8773.98
    Firmware: 2103.12.05.2
  • To say that AT&T isn't pushing it out because your phones haven't gotten it is pretty short-sighted, imo. My Focus S got it on 6/28 with no tricks, as did the Focus Flash a friend of mine owns (his came on 6/29). I've heard of 3 or 4 other Focus S devices getting it without manual intervention as well. Does that mean everyone got it? Quite the contrary. I realize very few have actualy gotten it via legitimate means, but AT&T was pushing it (very slowly) at the end of June. Not sure if they stopped it, or are doing it 5 phones at a time for some stupid reason, but a handful of people did get it from AT&T. Unfortunately, my wife and daughter haven't yet, but at least I know AT&T has been doing *something* with it
  • I just tried a bunch of times on an original focus, no luck.
  • No luck here either, Sammy Focus 1.3 on ATT.
  • Anyone on the original focus?
  • Same no luck for me with Original Focus
  • Yah man all it is saying is lost connection, need connection to update.
  • I was getting the same error, but then I read in this forum that you have to try disconnecting the cable just before you get the message "your phone is up to date" and it worked. I tried several times before I disconnected internet at the right moment and then update started.
    I have the original samsung focus 1.3 ATT... by the way, ATT SUCKS!
  • Nope, not for me. All I get is a message saying connect to the Internet to check for updates. I didn't get this message while doing this trick to get Mango.
  • my original focus is also a no-go for the update =[ said reconnect to the internet rather than notifying me of an update as it did when I used this method to force the Mango update. Sad day.
  • My Titan has been updated to 8112, 8773 and then a htc firmware update by using the same forced update in Taiwan.
  • Not working with unbranded Lumia 800.
  • Samsung Focus (the original) on Rogers. Just finished upgrading to 8112 and in process for 8773. Need to use the 'killing the wifi' trick to force it, though.
    UPDATE: process is complete. 8773 on board. I feel soooooo much better now.
  • Im not forcing nothing on my l900.. First of all the multiple texting will not work for me because I refused to pay services for text... Email is free and easy to use why not start using it.. So far it's been 2 months without text I survived it... So force all you want... Im waiting for 7.8 that's the most important thing to me
  • A lot of users who don't have Lumia 900s have their own reasons for wanting the update ASAP, that don't relate to texting at all. I know I want the firmware update for my Focus Flash more than anything because of the freezing issues this model seems to be susceptible to.
  • Same reason for my fiancés focus flash.
  • I "Air Forced" my Lumia 800 yesterday. Carrier 3 in Sweden. It still says "waiting for approval" on the Nokia site.
  • So I'm guessing this won't work for the att Nokia lumia 900?
  • Nope not working for mine. Fuc king sucks. Yes I meant to put a space there
  • You can force your Tango update here too. It's easy.
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736863
  • I'm too afraid of the warnings this will brick my phone or keep me from future updates.
  • Anyone use this method on the HD7S?
  • Tried for about an hour last night on HD7s last night, no luck. Was about to use this method for Mango when initially released from ATT.
  • Should say "was able", not "was about", damn spellcheck.
  • Focus S on AT&T.  Tango'd + Samsung update via "wifi trick".  Actually no trick needed for the Samsung update - it appears to have been triggered by getting Tango.
    Can't wait 'til this contract expires to go somewhere else....
  • Nothing here in the UK yet (orange)
  • On AT&T in Nashville, with a Samsung Focus S turned on Airplane mode plugged in and got the update notification. Installing now.
  • So i put my Samsung Focus S (ATT)  on airplane mode, connected it to zune. checked for update number 1, said i was up to date (7720), then i went to a different page, then back to update and almost immeadiately unplugged my wifi, and then got a "cannot check for update because no internet" message. Was there anything i missed? It wouldnt work for me. Sorry, kind of a noob at this.
  • Same here im using HTC Mozart Telstra AU and nothing comming up either says allready up to date or no internet any help guys? Cheers :)
  • I tried 30 something times until I got the hang of it. Try cutting wifi off at the absolute last second, meaning, just before it says "up to date". On my computer, the update search took exactly 4 seconds everytime, so I cut connection between 3.5-4 sec. Check how long the search is on yours. If that doesn't work, try the ethernet cable instead.
  • cheers mate ill give it ago :)
  • Must just be trial and error. Just got the 7740 update, gonna try for the next ones.
    Thanks for the tip.
  • its weird i already have the update for pre tango before most people on here i got it in feb the 8107 but still no tango even with telstra saying that its kinda avalible during testing. no luck with the wifi trik just comes up with error need wifi to update. :(
  • I was able to finally able to download all the updates and the firmware. Thx to DrToker and Daniel Rubino!
  • You pulled the plug too soon. It is a trial and error kind of thing. Just make sure that you plug the cable back in and that you have a connection before you switch pages. Also, I found that if the phone is unlocked (enter your pin before you try to unlock the lock screen) it works better.
  • ATT thanks for nothing except the biggest lineup of Windows Phones. Good job guys.:)
  • my friends used this trick and got the update (Tango) on Lumia phones too. I was getting updates found message on my phone few days ago when I was out of town but I can't find it now after I reached home. Anybody has a video of the tutorial. ? please help..
  • My  Samsung Focus Flash is in the process of being updated. I took none of the above steps; I only plugged in my handset and it began the update process on its own.
  • Apparently Tango has not been sent to Bell yet.
  • trick works.....updated ....performance improved.
  • I got the full update from Att on the 28th when I plugged into Zune after a trip. I had previously updated to 8107 by the cab method, and the new update failed until I backed that out.
  • I couldn't get the update on my HTC Titan 2. Zune gave me error 80072FA8 only when I put it on Airplane Mode. But according to this article it only works for Samsungs so, I'm gonna try that on my mom's Focus 2.
  • Updated my wife's focus s, finally. First turn on airplane mode. Then plug in phone, then open Zune. Navigate to updates and it was waiting for me. Didn't have to turn of my pc's internet. Tried it last nite and could not get it to work. I think your radios have to be off before u plug it onto your PC. Hope this helps someone. Thanx for the tip, WPCentral. Great work!
  • Did anyone else have to force four updates on their AT&T Focus S to arrive at Tango (8773)?
  • Ive already been threw 2 updates on my Focus S rite now im at (8107) and ive been trying to force update for the last 1 or 2 updates that i need for Tango, but it is not working. Its really terribly frustrating, the first 2 updates only arrived after 30 force update trys, but for the next update the force update isnt working, all i keep getting is the "Cant check for updates..." message. Terribly annoying. How long did it take for you to force update before you finally had all 4 updates?
  • The first forced update installed without much issue. Had to try a few times but it installed. The second update failed twice but was successful on the third attempt. The third update (8112) installed without issue. The fourth (8773) failed once and I'm trying again...
  • Ok...so second attempt at 8873 was successful and my Focus S is now updated!
  • Yes, I did. If you are at 7720 this will happen. Worth every second as you also get a firmware update and, for all intents and purposes, this is actually an official update. 
  • I successfully updated my stock AT&T Samsung Focus S from 7720 to 8773 plus a SAMSUNG update.  The trick was to disconnect internet (turn off wireless radio/disconnect ethernet) about .75 seconds after the loading bar completes.  It takes a minute or two, but it should say update available.  I am in the Pittsburgh, PA metro area if that makes a difference.
     
    I had to do the trick for EVERY update except the SAMSUNG update.  Installed the following:
    7.10.7740.16
    7.10.8107.79
    7.10.8112.7
    7.10.8773.98
    SAMSUNG Update for Windows Phone
  • Hi, I have a Focus S for ATT (unlocked), and I am stil on 7720, one question, is worthy all these updates? does the phone performance better?, thanks.
  • Copy and paste from what I said in a previous article: I can confirm the Focus S can be updated via Zune with the Airplane mode/disconnect from internet method. I'm doing it right now. This also confirms that the update is in ATT's servers ready to be deployed otherwise this method would not work. Pretty sweet indeed. Also, you're going to have to rinse and repeat until you get to 8773. Once 8773 is done installing, leave phone plugged in and Zune will automatically tell you there's another update (firmware), something you don't get with the cab sender method. For MMS, everything is there: "picture or video", "voice note" and "ringtone". Before and after firmware update: Firmware revision number: 2103.11.10.1 to 2103.12.05.2
    Radio Software version: 2103.11.10.1 to 2103.12.5.2
    Bootloader version: 5.10.2.0 to 6.5.16.0 Also in settings>about, it displays IMEI # and SIM ID # where before it didn't.
  • I actually captured the firmware update cab for the Focus S and posted the link on XDA
  • Excellent!
  • What about the original Focus? Could I use the same?
  • Daniel, I've tried the unplug trick for my original Focus with no luck. I did the same trick for the Mango update, so I think I have the timing down right. Can you confirm that AT&T will in fact have a Tango update for the focus or am I doomed to deal with my disappearing keyboard until 7.8 (or I get a new phone, whichever comes first)?
  • There is a way to get the keyboard fix on the focus (original) by changing the carrier name to Rogers from art, however this requires jailbreaking the phone. Im on my phone right now, but I can try to find the how to link for you when I get home
  • I can confirm that the forced/Zune update works for Focus Flash. You have to time the disconnect perfectly or it will not work. As soon as the update bar hits the end wait a second or two more then disconnect. Once I disconnected it searched for a long time for the update. So be patient.
  • Will this work for HTC arrive on sprint?
  • I can confirm that this works for LG Quantum on AT&T.  Did it unbranded, so can't confirm if it works on a branded version.
  • Have not been able to get this to work on my Quantum yet. Force updating Mango was a piece of cake. Tango isn't being as permissive so far.
  • This just help  push the update for my LG Optimus 7 on TELUS
  • Dude, you have to be specific to carrier and device
  • Does not work on original Samsung Focus Rev. 1.4. Lame.
  • Hello everyone. I live in Grand Rapids MI and I have a Samsung Focus S. I am updating my phone as I type this (on my other pc of course). I did not force my update. I plugged into Zune and it notified me on its own. Yes it is (8773) Tango.
     
    Long story short, be patient. ATT is pushing this update apparently. If you don't want to wait, you can go to WPCentral for an article on how to force the update. Just remember ATT seams to be doing their part.
     
    Good luck to everyone and cheers!!!!
  • Does this update bring visual voicemail to the FocusS,?
  • It does not.  That's something that AT&T has to provision on your account.  They say if you get an android phone that has VVM and tell AT&T that you're switching to that phone, they will provision it and you can reinsert your SIM into the phone and it will work.
  • I believe it's about LTE
  • Can somebody tell me if I have to be on Att in order to receive other updates, because I have a branded Samsung focus s on mobile and I have only gotten one update the 7740???
  • Mine didn't auto update to the subsequent updates (went from 8107 - 8112 - 8773). Had to do the trick each time.
  • This work's on Unbranded Omnia 7 in Ireland,
    But I get the 80180048 Error after the install has finished saying it was Unsucessful.
    Does anyone now how to fix this as the Windows Phone Support Tool on works on pre-mango devices 7740
     
    Any help welcome
     
    Fix Just had to download all Language cabs for the cab sender and manually update it first to 7812
  • I tried this last night on a Samsung Focus 1.3 and it was a no go. I debranded and then tried using Rogers settings and no luck. May try again tonight with both of these settings.
  • I got it to work by debranding and setting the mobile operator to 000-88, got to 8112 last night and tried a couple times tonight and got 8773.
  • I got it to work on my orginal Focus 1.3 by rebranding the registry from ATT-US to ROG-CA.  Took a couple of tries but updating to 8773 as we speak!
  • I was getting the same error, but then I read in this forum that you have to try disconnecting the cable just before you get the message "your phone is up to date" and it worked. I tried several times before I disconnected internet at the right moment and then update started. I have the original samsung focus 1.3 ATT
  • Just forced update on my LG Optimus 7 for Telus in Montreal :) But I will say that it didn't work until I pressed the update thing first, so it can tell me my phone is up to date, then I retried again, except this time forcing it. Hope this helps some frustrated people in mtl loooool
  • What really puzzles me is how great Nokia has been at updating the 900 since its been out but all of a sudden the 900 doesn't get tango. To be honest I hope the 900 is not getting the 7.8 update early cause that would be bs. Would not be fair to all the other WP customers. Also being that ATT is so heavily supporting WP, I find it strange they would not want to release this update, just seems counter to what their supposed to be trying to do. I confused :-S
  • Worked for me.  Got my focus 1.3 to 8773 tango
  • Well I guess the focus 1.4 doesn't get it but I'll try again... But can anyone give some tips please!
  • I got my Rogers Lumia 900 to force Tango with tip above.   Works really well.
  • What about the titan?
  • Method worked for me. I'm on Samsung Focus and I had to debrand. 
    One important step is to keep an eye out on your phone as it was the actual phone that prompted me for the update. There after I plugged the internet back in.
    Goodluck guys!
  • I see a bunch or people with Nokia Lumia 900's are forcing the update form 7.10.8112.7 then to 7.10.877398 using this trick, but has anyone successfully done it with a Nokia Lumia 900 on ATT? I used this trick on my Samsung's previously to get mango (so I know how to do the trick) but it doesn't seem to work for the Nokia Lumia 900 on ATT. Thanks!
     
  • Doesn't work
  • All done :)
  • Anyone confirm AT&T Lumia 900 in the states
  • I have been unsuccessful where I was previously successful forcing on focus on att
  • Thanks , same here
  • Getting "Can't check for updates right now. Please try again later." on my Samsung Focus. Any help/advice?
     
  • Getting "Can't check for updates right now. Please try again later." on my Samsung Focus. Any help/advice?
     
  • Iunno if it's the same for you but on my LG Optimus 7 it kept saying the same thing, then I realized that I had to unplug it from my PC, then plug it back in and check the update normally, wait until it says it is up to date (.77 wtv), then I tried the trick and it worked, hope this helps!
  • It works fine when I'm connected but as soon as I disconnect It gives me that message. Ill try to disconnect again. Thanks
  • Hmm :S maybe u disconnect too soon? :/ Iunno man... It is frustrating tho, I agree lol
  • Still not working :/
  • It took me 20+ tries to get one of my updates and get the timing of the WiFi disable correct. Just keep at it and you will eventually get it.
  • You're unplugging too soon.  Let it go a liilte longer and then unplug.  How fast you have to do it will depend on you internet connection and computer.  On update number 4 (8773) now myself, all had to be forced.  Good luck.
  • Anybody knows if forcing to Tango un a Sammy Focus Gen1 rev1.3 will add the KK2 update that reverts app unlock and interop unlock? If anyone can confirm would be great to know if it would be better to go with a manual CAB update.
  • My focus s on at&t had the 8773 update pushed to it today
  • Was it automatically pushed or you forced it?
    I have a HTC Surround on AT&T
  • It was automatically pushed. I got the notification on my phone, plugged in, and received the updates
  • Is the update available for HTC Surround yet? On AT&T?
  • I didnt have to force it for my focus s.  Its started updating them all when i plugged my phone in
  • Can confirm that push update on Focus Flash works currently on 8773 from 7720 took like 3-4 tries to disconnect at the right moment for each update for me it took about 4-5 sec after clicking the check for update button to finally show update available took only about 1 hr 30 min but completely confirmed working
  • Just went through 1.5 hours of updates. But finally 8773 att focus s.
  • How did you exactly do it?
  • Anyone know how to do the original Focus yet?
     
  • What about news for the first Gen device Samsung focus?
  • Force update is awesome!!!! On my w8 cp laptop, you have to be lightning fast to turn on airplane mode immediately after clicking update but I did it, took me about 2 hours but im doing the tango and feeling pretty good about myself . Keyboard feels really good typing, especially when it doesn't disappear!! Went to plug in my wife's S and to my amazement, it prompted her to update immediately!! :D:D:D