Sometime in early 2016, likely between January and February, Microsoft is expected to announce a new lower-tier Windows Phone. According to our sources, the Lumia 650 (codename Saana) is being positioned as a low-cost business device for companies to mass deploy to their employees.
Windows Central has partnered with @PhoneDesigner to bring you these exclusive renders of the upcoming Lumia 650. The renders themselves are based on internal Microsoft slides for the phone. While these images are not official at least according to our sources, they are highly reflective of the final product.
Backstory
According to our reporting, the Microsoft Lumia 650 was initially cancelled with the Lumia 750 and Lumia 850 back in July 2015 following Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella's letter to employees.
However, just a week later the project's status was reversed. From our understanding, the device (known only as Saana at the time) went through a few redesign efforts to be marketed as Microsoft's business phone. The phone is expected to be sold en masse to companies looking for a low-cost, but capable Windows 10 Mobile solution and takes over for the Lumia 640.
The phone's new look does add a professional aesthetic when compared to the Lumia 640 and Lumia 640 XL, which were also positioned for business use by Microsoft back in early 2015.
While the Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL are placed as the top-tier Windows 10 Mobile devices, their $550 and $650 price points make bulk deployments unlikely. Nonetheless, with their support for Continuum both phones can easily be sold for mobile professionals who need max specifications.
Regarding specifications, the Lumia 650 is not a barnburner, but it does bring a new design language that is very reminiscent of earlier iPhone designs. With its chrome sides and thin profile, the Lumia 650 looks like a premium budget phone. The effect of the metal band is similar to adding a Mozo case to the Lumia 950, and it seems Microsoft has learned a bit from that design folly.
Lumia 650 Specifications (likely)
- Windows 10 Mobile
- Colors: Matte White or Matte Black
- 5-inch 720p display
- Snapdragon 212 processor
- 1GB of RAM
- 8GB of storage with micro SD expansion
- 5MP front-facing camera; 8MP rear with LED flash
- No wireless charging
New CPU?
Also, our latest information points to a change in regards to the processor. Our report initially suggested the Lumia 650 would support a Snapdragon 410 while other reports claimed a Snapdragon 210.
Interestingly enough, it may be the case that both reports are wrong, as we now hear the Lumia 650 will ship with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 212. The Quaclomm Snapdragon 212 features a quad-core ARM Cortex A7 CPU with a 1.3 GHz CPU, Adreno 304 GPU, and support for X5 LTE and 1080p Full HD video playback.
Additional modern features include support for Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, dual-SIM configurations, Bluetooth 4.1, NFC, HD Voice, and Wi-Fi calling.
Expected release
Microsoft is unlikely to announce the Lumia 650 at the 2016 Consumer Electronic Show (CES) in Las Vegas in early January. Microsoft typical eschews this event for announcements, instead letting their OEM partners have their moment. We expect a few OEM partners to showcase new Windows Phones this year.
Instead, Microsoft may opt for a low-key announcement on their own, or, more likely, something for Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain. That event takes place between February 22 and February 25. Last year, Microsoft announced the Lumia 640 and Lumia 640 XL at that event making a repeat a possibility.
Additionally, we have heard that in the U.S., at least, one carrier – Cricket Wireless – will be taking stock of the device likely in April. Cricket was one of the first carriers to pick up the Lumia 640 in May 2015 ($129 at the time) making a Lumia 650 pickup a natural replacement. Other carriers are possible, however, at this time, we have no further information to add.
Special thanks to @PhoneDesigner who worked with us on this story on their renders. To see more of their work, please visit phonedesigner.eu and their Facebook page
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Exclusive renders: the Microsoft Lumia 650 brings metal to the mid-range
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Microsoft mobile management team loses their mind. They don't see clear market picture at all.
You should have 3 ranges and 2 sub-ranges to feed the market.
1. Low range (5xx or ...)
100£
1A. Budget range (6xx or ...)
225£
2. Mid range (7xx or ...)
350£
2A. Premium range (8xx or ...)
475£
3. Ultimate range (9xx or ...)
600£ (OMG, so much money for smartphone??!!)
And than fill the exact range specs. And yes, first you shoot Ultimate so that Budget can dream about it.
Because of commitment by MS on July that all LUMIA 640/640XL series will get update first...But now 6 months waiting???
Its making the user to completely lose hope on MS why they are not at all realising??? As a user of WP we do uncertain what MS have as future why we need to stick this OS????
We used for its uniqueness and PC like but the last 6 months delays and poor launching of new mobiles making questionable about the future of MS phones??
Is these comments reaching their ears or not??? we don't know.
Very small phone makers with limited fund released many mobiles within this period why MS not able??? all doing contract manufacturing then what hindrance to design a rectangular bar designed phone???
Don't delay beyond month for updates and new handsets availability otherwise you will lose complete user hope.
Where can I get this background. if it is possible. thank you img 1 of 7
If they end up releasing something like this, I say we petition Microsoft for a metal framed back cover for the 950. This is ridiculous, I'm tired of having a phone that looks just as cheap as the budget phones on the market.
it is beautiful but i'm disappointed about two things, there's not the button camera (which is very comfortable) and 5" screen.. we'll see how it goes
Hey MS, pay attention on this design!...make this a reality, ASAP ☺
<h> Operation Save for L650</h>
<p>I will definately buy this phone because of its AMOLED screeen and nice design... </p>
There are android phone in market with 3gb and 4gb of memory + longer battery... if this phone is going to be 1gb honestly then i would better buy Android.
Pretty nice for an entry level phone. When she drops close to $50 I might pick one up.
Beautiful.... The black one reminds me so much my special old mate Nokia N78
rendering great!
I love to see this rendering. I think, this design looks really elegant with a metal casing. But, however, I was a little disappointed because this smartphone are still not has a dedicated camera button. Oh, btw ... Lumia 650 is still using virtual navigation buttons. I sill ask Microsoft, Why?
When is Microsoft going to stop gobbling up all of qualcomm's sloppy seconds SOC's?
It looks like an iphone guys.
Only one question... Why no USB C?
So we have a mid-range phone that looks loads better than the flagship 950/XL. Excellent.
For a business environment a polycarbonate casing would probably be better suited.
Survives longer and does not get scratched up so quickly.
Especially in a business environment wireless charging would be of benefit.
8 GB of internal FLASH storage is a bummer.
16 GB should be the minimum.
this design could have built more interest in the more profitable 950/950 XL units
Beautiful Design.... so slim
So, rumour has it that they'll put a SD212 in the upcoming L650. Have you checked the supported configurations on this chip? Steups. what a joke really.
Just check out these supported configs
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/212
I must say wow! those renders look beautiful! I wish the 950/XL would have looked like this! if the real product ends up looking like these renders I will definitely ditch my HTC One M8 and get a 640 XL!
No XL ???
DOA if Snapdragon 212. Even the Lumia 550 is DOA without A53 Cores outside of selling for under $50. Less than 30 seconds on the reveal from MS - even MS knew the 550 was DOA. The 600 series is a low end phone, not mid range. Sells around $129. So ideally the Snapdragon 430 is made for such cheap phones. I love my Windows 10 Lumia 635, but only because its dirt cheap. Snapdragon 430 or stop making phones MS.
The Lumia 6** range has been my sweet spot. If the Lumia 650 looks anything like this I'll definitely be upgrading immediately.
While the design of the device looks really good to me, those specs are abysmal going into 2016. Why have a midrange device running a SD 200 series chip? I don't care if its a newer iteration. That teir should not be even a consideration for this device. ****, the least I'd settle for in a lower midrange devie in 2016 is a SD410. Ideally, a 600 series would be better. ****, who makes these decisions?
Ms seriously wtf? U call this mid range?? And wpcentral u know that this not even near a mid range phone. **** my 520 has better gpu than this crap. I had high hopes for this phone but now I give up. Android has 4x the hardware and with the upcoming marshmallow its going to be much smoother. I was a windows fan for 1 year and until jelly bean and kitkat I hated android but lollipop has changed my mind. Enough hanging around like a child. My next phone will be an android. Only pc w10 is good for me. But wp10 along with the new coming phones are down for the count. Ms u need to burst ur eyes open if u want to compete with android and iOS then stop boring the crap out of us people.
Cannot believe midrange phone will have metal edge and my 950 does not. Still love the phone though.
Now that is a good looking phone, this is what the 950 and 950XL should look like!
It does look nice, almost too nice for the massive number gap between 650 and 950. A shunt up to 750 would make sense.
Don't suppose there's any chance MS could change their mind and start to ship new batches of 950's and 950XL's with firsty-party metal covers included to bring it into line with the new design style? It'd be similar to introducing a new colour variant, really, like the AT&T green 1520. At the very least, a MS-branded metal-rimmed cover would be great. Or a bright yellow polycarbonate one. That'd seriously make me consider upgrading from my yellow 1020.
Hopefully it comes with Windows Hello.
Logo isn't alligned with Camera lens.
Ooh... I REALLY like the look of this one. Here's hoping the renders are very close to what this phone actually is! I would love if it came to T-Mobile. This one would be perfect for me because I can't see myself using a phone with a screen larger than 5 inches. Just too bad they no longer have colors other than black and white.
T-Mobile hates Windows Phones, and the filthy meatbags that use them. (as shown by their actions) :)
I think that a similar aluminium frame on the 950 and 950 XL would have resulted in far fewer compliants about those two handsets.
It's there any news about a 650XL..?? Would be amazing...
*Isn't
As my kids would say... "that moment when you realize the 650 looks way better than the 950!"
What's the price difference between a 5" 720p display and a 5" 1080p display?
Looks more high-end than the 950/XL
hmm I am surprised so many people commentted on a smart phone thatv does not even have the new contiuum mode capability . Microsoft now that you have Continuum mode will you PLEASE sell us a Continuum capable smart phones for 250 t0 350
Absolutlely want this, my 1320 is showing its age
The renders are good and the phone looks awesome. But the specifications are almost same as the Lumia 550. So what would be the deciding factor for choosing Lumia 650 over 550 (Apart from Design and budget)
The renders are good and the phone looks awesome. But the specifications are almost same as the Lumia 550. So what would be the deciding factor for choosing Lumia 650 over 550 (Apart from Design and budget)
A phone using Snapdragon 200 series will never be considered a middle-range phone. Even the SD 400 series is something like low-tier middle-range.
This is a very stylish entry level phone, but a downgrande from Lumia 640 (in real life SD400 is almost the same as SD212, but the other specs looks the same or slightly better on Lumia 640).
What a shame.
Without features of app,ur mobile is like dibba.
We do have a lot of funny saying in France :
- " Bof ..."
- " Touch one ball without disturbing the other "
So they bring metal to middle-range device and use plastic entirely on their flagship?
I do like Lumia 950's design, but well, I'd love to have that metal thing...
This is a beautiful phone, even better than Lumia 950 / XL
Beautifill
Is this one looks better than 950? :)
Gorgeous-looking device. However, I am afraid no one would buy it with its meager 1GB of RAM. The rest looks perfectly reasonable.
looks cool... i want it in XL
Awesome....
What the...oh man, I would have loved if the Lumia 950XL looked like this :(
Bezel!
Zzz. BRING BACK THE CLASSICS. The 900 series. Reloaded. I miss the metal, the brushed aluminum, the stamina. The new phones look cheap, all plastic, weightless.
the phone looks amazing. but specs are cramping its style. I've been wating too long for a midrange WP with 2GB RAM, and SD6xx series.
Cool
Wow, now that's how you make a classy looking phone. Great job on the renders and thanks for the gif, well done. The specs make this device a head-scratcher though. If they want to target business, shouldn't they go with a bit more powerful of a CPU? Get old Snapdragon 801s, those were brilliant pieces of hardware, and you can probably get them cheap now.
If I were in charge of Windows Mobile:
1) Give all phones across the range a consistent design. This design.
2) Abandon the 650, 650, 660, 670...etc numbering. You're gonna run out of numbers soon and will have to switch them, like Nvidia does every few years. It's dumb. Stick with how Apple does it. No wait, I got a better idea. 4 product lines:
And you can even have fun with a Lumia X with a halo 50MP camera, 1" sensor.
Don't know if anyone else feels me on this, but these are just some random thoughts I've had swimming around.
Q for Daniel or whomever may know. Is this like the 950/XL where they took the very last Nokia in the pipeline and made some tweaks or is this 100% Microsoft?
2nd Q: Safe to assume an XL version as well?
Q for Daniel or whomever may know. Is this like the 950/XL where they took the very last Nokia in the pipeline and made some tweaks or is this 100% Microsoft?
2nd Q: Safe to assume an XL version as well?
Microsoft if its mid range it should give competition to only one OEM that's moto g. Nothing Microsoft has to do more than out proper specs on the device with the right price.
U giving money only for look.
Looks really cheap, just like a Huawei Ascend P series phone.
This design should have been the flagship not the crap 950/950XL. I'm just gonna wait for the Surface Phone. Can't deal. Enough said!!
All things are good.. Except the processor... If it will have S212 .. We surely need L730/L830 successor with SD410 .. we cannot settle for slower processor.. (it may b better than SD400 but m sure therr must be some SD412 better than S212)
S200 on L535 was slower. I liked L735's SD400 series..
I mean whats the need of having such specs when we have better in low price ranges .. Like Xiaomi, ASUS Zenphone with much better specs and lower price. M sure this phone would price around 10-12k
U people only giving money for design huhhh.
Okay renders are based on assumptions from low resolution images. But what this phone looks like from the renders I have to say I will be upgrading from my L535 to this beauty
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Without the features mobile like dibba.
Without feature's of app mobile is like dibba
Without apps of feature mobile is like dibba.n brought it u people n stayed like dibba
Without features of app mobile are like dibba.
Without features of app,mobile are like dibba.
OMG, beautiful device, going to buy if available on Brazil!
I prefer the look of this device to the 950 / 950XL. The phones are starting to look less and like Nokias and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. The Nokias were good a couple years ago, but the design language needs to evolve.
This looks great. If this is what Panos is doing with the looks the phones, I am delighted.
However, For me MS has been making the cardinal mistake of pricing its phone a notch higher than ideal. By ideal I do not mean the cheapest, but it could have earned more revenue in my opinion by keeping the prices of 640 and 640 XL by about 15% (i.e. closer to Samsung J series) and those of 950 and 950 XL by about 25% (closer to Google Nexus phones) of their announced price. Ms must identify its closest competitors and try to price a little lower than those, and not higher.
Given the specifications of this phone, this should be a sub $200 phone. But I expect it to be priced closer to $300 and another be deflator in windows-phone fans' confidence who expect market share of windows phones to rise.
Frankly speaking, I am rather looking at some of the OEMs to provide decent hardware at prices that are more 'buyable' for most people.
Omg this looks better than my 950 XL....no kidding ...i still love my 950 XL tho...lol
Looks quite promising..i'll keeping my eyes on it
Looks so premium!
February 20!? That is too much dragging. Microsoft plz launch it soon, eventhough I won't but it, but can try to pull many android user friends to Windows 10.
I wonder if it will have an XL version of 650 with a little bump of specs.. I still like the specs of the 640XL but the design of 650 is more appealing, its like the 830..
Where can I get that blue Windows wallpaper on lockscreen of Lumia 650? Plz anyone give link to download.
If these renders are close to the real thing, this will be the PERFECT backup for my 950XL.
...what the heck this phone looks more "premium design" than the high-end ones? :D
A mid range device with such stunning design would be a game changer..... Waiting for it...
Awesome design...
Awesome
Great design, but wait, are those 2016 mid range device specs? Really?
720p screeen, 1gb ram, low budget processor. :/
No kidding. These are the specs for pretty much every current Lumia except for the 950s. 720 isn't enough and 1440 is arguably too much - where's the middle ground?
Hopefully it comes with the 412/430 instead of the 212. If it's a budget business device, need to up the performance at least a bit.
Woooooooow. It must have 650xl with sd410 .
Folks Microsoft needs a cheaper Continuum mode capable smart phone than the MS Lumia 950/950XL smartphones soo a lot of people will have Continuum smartphones so developers will develop apps for Continuum mode Windows smart phones
These ones look way better than the 950/XL.
This looks cool and all, but without windows store supporting more apps (Specifically Intuit apps ie. quickbooks, gopayment) i know our company won't be using them :(
Looks like I may be downgrading from my Icon for this. The looks of the phone will likely be worth it, though.
Looks great. Shame about the processor.
Cricket Wireless...the mobile network so many businesses rely on...lol...seriously...
**** imma get this
This is sick
****, nice renderings. They need to make a case like that for the 950XL.
It does look handsome
****** specs.. Microsoft is already behind in the mobile world..why not give it a snapdragon 615 with 2 gigs of ram.. I do like the design though
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This looks amazing!
Think "Enterprise". Orders of 100 to 5000. Thanks Daniel. :-)
That bezel though...
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It looks quite nice. My favorite combination of materials has always been a metal frame with a polycarbonate back. The best of both worlds.
Is that a front firing speaker (bottom front)??? I don't see a speaker grille on the back.
looks amazing very beautifull indeed .. yet ruined by the 212 processor only if it was a 412 . was gonna buy it without a thought
Release date is on the last photograph. Feb 20.
Swooning on this. **** that looks good. I want the white one!
so no lumia 850 & 750 ? if msft say they release 6 phones in a year by looking we have lumia 950 ,xl, 550 and 650 total of 4 where are other 2 lumias ? I guess the two remaining are 850 & 750 and also npu says atleast 2 lumias are coming
Yes, the SD slot is invaluable BUT the minimal 8GB of internal storage IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. SD cards suffer wear and tear, after all.
This design is way better than the 950 design.
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Hey Daniel Rubino, did you read my comments in your previous post about Lumia 650? And converting them to Microsoft?
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No color options for the recent lumias (x50). How boring. I miss the colorful nokia designs...
Wow what a great looking phone. Looks even prettier than the 950. Im switching to Cricket asap anyway. Im sick of the stingy data limits on Gophone. Then next spring I'll snag one of these. It doeant take all that much to make me happy. Thanks Microsoft and adios GoPhone.
Looks nice. The metal helps the appearance. My biggest take away from this is that this means the business phone is lower end which should mean the Surface Phone will be high end like we are hoping, even though some rumors said it might not be.
So Microsoft wants to not only sell high end phone with low end look but also low end phone with high enf look.
Interesting strategy.
I would like to buy something that looks like this but with Snapdragon 4** or 6** 2GB RAM and 32GB flash and FHD AMOLED.
I also like it has Microsoft on the front and the 4 square logo on the back. Looks better aesthetically and is fitting in with the modern W10 design.
Plus, the silver/white buttons look soooo much better than black. Black buttons on white just look too garish.
If the renders are accurate, this is a pretty sweet design for a phone with low-end specs. Knowing Microsoft, they'll overprice this like they did with the 830. My money is on an initial $300+ price tag and it will be DOA with consumers, though some businesses might bite.
Lumia 640 sold for between $89 and $129 off-contract; doubt this will veer very far from that price range.
Then why did you call it a "mid-range" phone? Also, if your renders are correct, I find it hard to believe this is intended at such a low price point. You know more than I do though.
And quality and processors upgrade always cost more, even Lumia 650 should be more pricier around 225$-235$, it should be an worthy upgrade over Lumia 640, with my wish list having Octa-core 1.4 Ghz Snapdragon 415 processor, 16 GB Rom/ 2 GB Ram, Rear Camera with dual led flash, 5 MP front facing camera with Same unit as Lumia 950/XL, front facing stereo speakers, metallic frames and polycarbonate shell in colours( neon green and cyan).
I am looking for a design I love and this partially gets there:
A pure white phone (front included) is appealing. But so is the pure black for running dark theme.
These have an attractive design - they look like my 930 slimmed down.
The metal edge appeals to me and love it on my 930 - I therefore love this aspect.
The bezel at the top just ruins the whole design for me here. Otherwise the design is going in the right direction for these iSung copy designs.
Still I would like to see the curved screen that gives the illusion of floating text/pictures - that's just me :)
We need another midranger, high-end midranger.
Is the 212 better than the 410, or are they about equal?
About equal, but 212 has newer radio stack like bt 4.1 le and HD voice.
And this phone would be better called and categorized as Lumia 555
Omg, that is the most premium looking smart phone ever conceived!!!! Who knew all Microsoft had to do was put a little aluminum on their 950/950xl to keep the whiners at bay...:P
It bothers me that the flagships didn't get metal, but the low end ones did...
Hrrrm hrrrm the cammera...
The rest of the specs look great on paper, but the cammera... hrrrm... I will keep an eye on this phone, but I feel like the 930 is still my best bet when I finally change my 1020 (in about 12 more months).
Why a snapdragon 212..
Pretty good looking...too bad the 950s didn't look like this...
Meh...
good looking affordable phone, affordable phones doesn't have to look ugly, i wonder how the premium phones will look like next year if this the affordable phone i can't wait
Too good to be true.
Yeah, thats the looks the 950 should have. And now we have a budget phone that looks like a flagship, while the 950 is the other way around.
Please Microsoft keep them coming all in the same size so that we don't have a choice...
Is there going to be an xl version, I don't think I would be able to go back to 5" after using the 640xl
WC is for reading. (Yes, and it has nice pictures too )
And while the comments section of the articles is the most likely portion of WC reading that can cause me to suddenly jump to another article, (or maybe switch over to a daily dose of the forums) there is NOTHING quite as painful as the comments section of a Rumored Lumia! Especially one with pictures.
Did anyone notice the front speakers?Ms should do this more often,to show the droiders the stuff they are made of.
I would like to know why Soc 212? They could have included 410.
Is it an optical illusion or is that camera lens concave?
Nice looking phone.
Looks good and would probably suit the business use its intended for. Who power uses their work phone they are mostly for just checking email and making calls from my experience so I think it would be a winner
Beautiful design through and through.Might as well hold onto it for a couple of more phones.Mark my word,It will be an instant hit despite the low sd 212.
Look Ma, Bezels !! Okay, wasted space aside, this does look much better than the other W10M phones. But why do they need to cripple it with 1GB RAM and especially 8GB internal storage is beyond me.
I've got to ask, do they hate their fans? I mean the 950's fans they were targeting, or are they planning to point at mozo when they get the evil look from their beloved fans? lol I just cant understand Microsoft...
Any word on continuum support?
Looks like a target nice phone
This seems conflicted. A phone geared for business, but doesn't support continuum? Business's are buying these overpriced iPhones like it's nothing. Microsoft can sell a good mid range phone to business that supports continuum.
Not all business need or want continuum, some just need a phone. Still, maybe in 1 or 2 years middle or even low end phones will be compatible with continuum.
Snapdragon 200 series should be retired. The phone needs the the 400 series without any price increase.
The 640 was overpriced with the hardware it's using, at least in Canada it was, also same issue with the 830.
Come on Microsoft, how about some love, for the Great White North.
We feel abandoned. :(
I have no doubt this got back on the table after they took a look at what I expect is some absoutley terrible 950/950XL sales, defect, and return telemetry.
Yes...
After visiting the http://www.windowscentral.com/e?link=http%3A%2F%2Fclkde.tradedoubler.com... 950/XL pages way too many times only to see "Email me when available," I would think lack of stock would be a huge contributor to lower sales volumes.
This is actually the first metal ringed phone which looks sexy, stylish and classy!!!
Why bring metal to the mid range, and leave it off your high end devices?
I skipped 950 and wanted to wait to see if Surface Phone will be real but as I wait I might get one of them cause they look really good.
What about the Lumia 650XL? is this phone in the works?
"Good looking.....happy to see different design language....liked it....hope the internal features will also be surprising...."
Look way sexier than 950 ... how the sd 212 compares to the 400 ?
I guess businesses want slow phones, with crap A7 cpu's, garbage cameras, no ram? seriously wtf ms
Actually, most businesses would be quite happy if employees did not take photos at work... Some go so far as to disable the camera. I think that's a going too far, but it does happen.
It looks more "premium" than the 950's in my opinion...
No businesses want affordable phones that fit their infrastructure and their needs. This phone is more secure then Android and (a lot) cheaper then iPhone's so it's perfect to deploy to thousands of employees ;-)
REAL metal or painted plastic?
Looks nice, but I hope that battery can be removed. I know it's just a render, but still.
Yuck, no USB Type-C?
TBH, file that under unconfirmed at this point.
Nice render. In my opinion this looks the way the 950's should have looked like. A clean design without all the fuss like the Galaxy line or the weird looking bezels round the cameras of the 950's. Downside is the lack of a camera button.
It'll be interesting to see what a 650 will actually be like. I am looking for a replacement for my (still excellent) ATIV S. Samsung apparantly has given their customers the finger and decided android sales matter more than supporting current users by offering an official W10M upgrade path. No new device, no update for the ATIV S. And as the 950's cost more than I'm willing to spend on a phone, this leaves me waiting for soemthing like the successor to the Lumia 735. A 750 with this 650 design and updatet 735 hardware would be an instant success I think. Affordable, premium experience, killer looks.
Snapdragon 212 is such a disappointment to be honest. Could have used 412 which uses newer arch. cortex A53 over cortex A7, better GPU (probably) Adreno 306 over 304 and faster memory speeds ~600mhz over ~500mhz
Daniel, or whoever would be gracious enough to help me understand another slightly off subject question, but always inregards to Windows Mobile.
So after finding out yesterday my 925 hardware didn't support "Hey Cortana" I went and picked up a 950XL. Great phone. It will do until the Surface Phone comes out.
To the point....Can I use Tap to Pay or not? And if so, how do u set it up? I've read about HCE and W10M support for it, but is it active and can we currently link debit/cc cards to make NFC purchases?
Please don't mention SoftCard cuz everyone knows Google bought it and snuffed it out. Thanks ahead of time for any info anyone can give.
#MSFTFOXHOLE
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And yeah , metal band = 400$+ as the 830 ...
Hmm looks great but I wouldn't buy it since I like having a camera button. Also would it be an upgrade from Lumia 820 performance-wise?
Will SD212 support Continuum? They really need to push this out mainstream if they want to get people switched on and using it. Restricting to Flagships will limit general business attempts at using this.
I guess 1GB RAM means no.
Really nice looking phone though!
To me,there is no operating system like Windows but the name Microsoft is too long on a phone
Humm... How about MicroPhone kkk
This looks like a great budget phone, and a worthy successor to the fantastic 640, which is an almost perfect budget phone, IMO. Why do they even bother making the 5xx phones when they have phones like the 640 / 650, where the price difference between them is negligible?
I think they should take a page from Apple's book and just have a low-end 6xx and high-end 9xx, with the XL upsizing option(s.) At least it's an improvement on the days of 50 Lumia models a year, I guess.
"and support for X5 LTE". This sentence seems to be confused about what X5 LTE is. X5 LTE isn't a specification, it's a product from Qualcomm. It's a specific chip.
Microsoft going in the right direction now, i think we have a great year ahead with these beauty
212 is a let down. Make it 415 and 1.5 gigs of RAM, at least.
I just want 950 and 950 XL SUCCESSORS to come with this design; with metal finish and/or actual curved metal sides, front facing stereo speakers that can better boomsound HTC, white front bezels, hardware capacitive keys with a finger print scanner and Snapdragon 820. Rest of the specs, similar or better than the 950 & 950XL but with better Software effort in Redstone than the existing Lumias shipped with.
Looks like a **** iPhone 5 (S). Seriously, you people want a phone that looks like something that came out 3 years ago.
Beauty
If these are real then the phone looks magical. The black one is the best.
What about the "enhanced security features" etc. for business devices that Nadella talked about? :)
I always thought it was weird though -as the reverse of that would be "yeah, our other phones don't have or cannot be configured for such great security features"
Lack of apps is a feature too and makes the phone more secure ;)
The 950 and XL should have looked like these phones.
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That metal will look great under a black opaque case.
Ugh I want this on T-Mobile. I hope its not carrier locked.
Looks great :)
I don't like the metal frame sticking out the sides. That's why I love the lumia 950 xl. It's just all screen and no extra bezel or anything sticking out.
Very sweet
Plastic buttons?
Oh please just make a freaking Snapdragon 615+ version!.. Thats a mid..
+730
Microsoft not supporting Snapdragon 6xx series or using older 8xx series for its phones is such a shame. Also, not supporting other ARM licensees like Meditek, Exynos, Huawei, PowerVR and NVIDIA Tegra is such a shame. So sick of having so less diversity when it comes to SoCs and GPUs.
You planning on ripping your phone apart and changing the graphics processor or something?
I'm perfectly fine with Qualcomm in ARM, but in case you haven't noticed, other top tier smartphone OEMs ship with other chipsets as well. Like Samsung with Exynos. Huawei, HTC and other chinese OEMs with midrange phones ship with Mediatek. Iphone ships with PowerVR GPUs and it has never been a slouch in gaming performance. NVIDIA is the top GPU vendor and supporting their silicon might be good for pushing the mobile gaming ecosystem in windows forward.
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