Whether or not all current Windows Phones would get the Windows 10 update due next year is certainly on the minds of many people. In the past, I have detailed why the chances of a Windows 10 update being available were much higher this time around, as opposed to the trend-breaking Windows Phone 8 OS.
On November 11, the official Lumia Twitter account has publicly declared all Lumia phones with Windows Phone 8 would get an update next year.
In a tweet responding to @_Y06_, the Lumia account is quite explicit about the new OS:
"There will be Windows 10 upgrades for all Lumia Windows Phone 8 devices :) And we will release new Windows 10 models in the future!"
We should caution that technically speaking, Microsoft's Twitter account is not necessarily their press channel, but it is rather official. Still, we are currently not aware of any technological limitations as to why current phones could not be updated, reaffirming the @Lumia tweet.
Currently, it is much too early to start speculating about update timeframes, carriers, and which devices will get the Windows 10 update. Form sources we have spoken to, those decisions, have yet to be made. However, it is looking very likely that all Windows Phone 8 Lumias will be getting that update sometime in 2015.
Perhaps even more interesting is the reference to 'Windows 10 models' in the future, as this statement omits phone from the description. As noted in the past, Microsoft is dropping references to 'phone' in regards to Windows 10 smart devices, and this seems to be another example of that shift in marketing.
Are any of you feeling better about Microsoft's tweet regarding Windows 10?
Source: @Lumia (Twitter); via: WP7Forum.ru; Thanks, Karen S., for the tip
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If iOS developers can use a windows pc to program for iPhone or any other iOS device, I don't think anybody will use the MACs or any Apple computer
Wow it i svery good news for all Lumia lovers.
This is why MS is not really introducing any new WP devices. They are waiting to release Windows 10 and then introduce new phones. Which is smart, because why leave updating to the average person who can barely handle managing the settings on their phone. You would be asking for trouble.
...not ALL Windows Phone 8 Lumias...
Would be helpful if they could narrow the date down. "[...] sometime in 2015." is not gonna help people with phones like a 920 which came out in Q3 2012 if MS releases the update in Q4 2015 (even mroe so if the update is bundled with the Lumia update which usually needs to be released by the carriers).
I hate to sound negative every time I comment on such news but MS really needs to decrease update intervals and make the road map for them more transparent.
I switched to Windows Phone because the update cycle on Android was only a sad joke. My HTC Magic is a neanderthal (version 1.5), my Galaxy S Plus is stuck on 2.3.6 and my Nexus S got 4.1.2 but the update was flawed (enormous battery drain) and didn't get fixed (yes I know, I could unlock and put a custom rom on them but I'm just not interested in that, I want it to work out of the box, not having to tinker around with it just to make it work).
While on WP the update cycle is much longer, the amount of updates is just....well, we're still on 8.1 with only mediocre improvements.
This is it One OS Microsoft's Best Move To Incline us and Themselves...
Any images or concept on ui or anything new feature about wp10?? Coz i really want to knw..
it will be bullcrap if you own a non-Lumia phone and not get an update.
What I love about Microsoft is its commitment to making their OS so user friendly and to allow their hardware to work with it. My iPhone 4s is totally broken since 8.1 update. No battery time, reboots, no touchscreen working and apps no longer work. It is an expensive brick. The updates on my cheap 525 keep it running smoothly, no hiccups, no problems. I am abandoning Apple products for good. Cannot wait for Windows 10 on my mobile. Loving it on my laptop.
+520
Lumia 510 anyone?
I don't see me changing phone any time before Windows 10 is released, so this is great news, looking forward to it on my 1020! It's not as official a confirmation as i'd hoped, but it'll do.
Notice that it says "lumia" sooo dont hold your breath on the other devices like htc and samsung...as well as low end ones :P
What about lumia 610??
What about my lumia 625 :) ?
What about lumia 610...it's trashed phone for Microsoft??
So right now why should anyone want to buy any new lumia phones out there as opposed to waiting for the WIndows 10 smart devices that will be coming soon. and I hope "future" is sooner than later
That would be extremly cool of Microsoft but I highy doubt that'll happend due to hardware and firmware limitations. Let's wait and hope this predictions come true :)))
this is total crap what you are talking here about WP7 devices. There is NO valid reason why those were not upgradable!! The platform is the same ARM!, most of them have 512MB like the 520, the same resolution so don't start with excuses. MS simply did not want to do it! They were to lazy to adapt the WP8 OS to the old hardware components in respect of drivers.
HTC HD7 and Lumia 900 were two great devices that users got tricked with when WP8 was released in the same period MS was still promoting these old devices! And to be frankly, the HD7 was a beauty comparing to the HTC 8X which is ugly as h***. So please stop this nonsense of a subject about the old WP7/7.5, everyone knows that it COULD have been possible to update those devices too as long as the specs are much the same with some wp8 devices except for the CPU which on WP7 was single core..but let's be serious, don't tell me because of a second core it was not possible LMFAO!!
Put it short, MS screw users up! and in this way they did more damage than good, faith in MS's platform faded away. Not only that WP7 was a total failure OS with lots of basic features missing (eg. USSD commands, BT was most of the time broken than working etc, no turn by turn offline GPS SW available etc) but it was updated to a 7.8 with a new homescreen and that was it...you call this respect to the customers?
We all hope that Win10 will be available for current devices because if those idiots try to make the same mistake like they did with WP7 NON upgradable to WP8 thing, they will sure fail forever in gathering market share, users and developers...
Android cheap entry level phones are totally doom!!!!!!!
Verizon users wont get it until 2018
Yay thank you Microsoft
Ifeel better
Just going like apple
So does mean Windows Phone OS is going to officially become Windows OS for phones?
No more Windows Phone Phone phone phone... Just Windows phone?
That would be great..... If we receive an update
Now that's what I call caring for customers. Windows 10 upgrade for every single device, from the dirt-cheap yet super efficient 520, to the flagship class behemoth 1520. Way to go Microsoft :)
At the risk of sounding a bit over-excited, go suck on some nuts iFruits and LagDroids.
PS: To my fellow Windows Phone (or Windows) using friends on Verizon, I feel your frustration. Just go contract free and kick those nutjobs to the curb already!
I'll play devil's advocate now.
1. The tweet did not mention the Nokia Lumia phones which are probably more than 90% of all WP 8 phones sold. Just saying the Lumias will get W10 is like saying all of the phones produced after poaching Nokia will get the update, the rest will not.
2. Product lifecycle. That fancy term which MS invented a while ago to explain why certain products are not maintained anymore. Would be a good way to not support the 1st gen WP8 phones, if they don't go the way described under 1.
All that matters is the features & the time the new OS is released especially when we have latest nexus or lollipop in place.
MS should buck up.
I wonder what will be new in windows 10. I guess I can wait till then. I was about to jump ship to Android lollipop. Been with WP since win7 . Loved my titan back then but now years later im pretty tired of WP... Love my 1520 though.
Great news :)
Lumia 900? Lumia 810? Should put a disclaimer on that lol.
Can't wait for windows phone 10
Windows Phone 7 was bulit on Windows CE. Windows Phone 8 and 8.1 is built on Windows NT.
Windows 10 will be NT to so a update process will be more easy.
leak something!
"Windows 10 upgrades"... Upgrades, and in plural. Wouldn't they have said Windows 10, period, if they meant all phones would be getting Windows 10? Sounds like a minor smokescreen, with older devices just getting some Windows 10 features...
That's fair enough
yeah cool but any dare for that?
I love u Nokia lumia, ups :(
Yes and no. Yes, I'm happy that Microsoft is confirming that ALL WP8 devices will get WP10. No, I'm not confident in any of the carriers making that update available to devices that are two to three years old. T-Mobile has already kicked the 810 to the curb and I haven't heard anything about the HTC 8S even though both devices are capable of getting the update. I feel like I'm saying this in every post now but Microsoft really needs to just bypass the carriers altogether ala Apple when releasing OS updates.
Actionable live tiles pls
Yippeeeee.....i think all the Lumias should probably be getting the update at the same time we had got the 8.1 update.
What Microsoft is doing , is being the same model than apple does, i mean it was obvious that later of windows phone 8.1 would jump to 10, is not windows 9 so was obvious, and their policy of upgrade devices is just very nice at least, about Windows 7,5-7.8 users, just could understand they got an durable thing , but they must have in mind that in Android also nobody give you an upgrade to the next version so is not justified those rants. if look further there will found an article where Microsoft explains why they did not give an update to the windows 7.8 users to 8 ,
I am sure windows is the better than android,ios.. And I am sure finally Microsoft is the no.1 OS in future and now no.1 OS for me....
Finally Microsoft confirm this "all currently windows phone 8 device will upgradable to windows 10"
wow I am sure Microsoft is the no.1 OS for me.. And world no.1 OS in future...
Lumia 1020 include ??
Microsoft took months just declaring Lumia Denim(and still not available to old Lumia phones) and this is all together a New OS so guys be ready to wait for years before you get it installed in your W8 Phone ......
This is a great development. Now, maybe Daniel Rubino can give me a take on this, but if now we are getting Windows 10 as our phone OS which is the same platform that is being used on the desktop doesn't that make Windows Phones much more attractive to developers? I mean Microsoft can do a great marketing campaign by saying Windows 10 devices are the most popular around the world more than Apple iOS and Android. Just putting this out there...
Great
All Lumias? Hahahahaha, 810, 822, 928, Icon? LOL
Except fro those on Verizon who will still be wating for Cyan/WP8.1.
current lumia phones , not nokia lumia ? Just thinking...
Icon no longer available at VZ. Tried to get one today."discontinued". what a bummer.
Just because they say "there will be upgrades" doesn't mean they will be upgraded. Do carriers get in the way of new OS upgrades?
*scoff*. Sometime next year probably means that Verizon will get it around December just because.
It well be great for lumia user but for lumia 7.0 user you have to changed to windows 8.0
Looks like my SIM free Nokia Lumia 1520 might have been a good buy then.
:-)
Yes :)
I hope it does not run slow or choppy on my 1020. The hardware is not aging well hehe.
Then it is obvious Verizon wireless customers will see the upgrade in 2017 Q4, maybe. Verizon has declined to comment on the story, or the existence of Windows Phone.
But will those without developer preview ever get it through the carriers? Most likely not -_- I have the developer preview, but I'm just looking out for those who don't. Lol.
Cannot wait! After upgrading to Windows 10 I'm sure we'll be forced to either flash back to 8 or buy a new phone...
yes im a bit happier now, but still hoping for the they when I can finally buy a phone and install vanilla windows on it, or android if that's what you like, with no bloat of any kind, just pure OS candy, which can use my hardware to its fullest(cant use LTE band 4 on my own hardware -928-) im tired of it
Wowowowo maybe Im dreaming? Good lord thanks Microsoft
What about the T-Mobile 810 which will not get Cyan or Denim? Or are they counting the DP?
Men oh men, im not sure what can they replace my 1520
BOOM!!! ℹ❤ W P
Whennn
Feeling happy about my Lumia 930 getting the new version... now I need a Lumia 940 Dual SIM :)
This is pushing me towards a Lumia even more
So that means that T-mobile phones will get their upgrades sometime in 2016.
Not T-Mobiles fault... Microsoft related issue
Can't wait for it.
Good news, new year will bring a new phone and new software.
Windows 10 for phones or windows phone? To me, it will always be WP.
Good :)
Hope somebody doesnt' get fired tomorrow because of this tweet. Not because I care about the fate of that person, but because I want the darned update! :P ;)
I couldn't care less.
When will it be available? By the end of next year? So it will be another year of endless waiting where almost nothing will happen for wp8.1 and Microsoft will focus on android and iOS apps and services. (I'm already hearing your voices again: be patient, everything will get better when windows10 arrives... yada yada yada)
Until then I (and probably many others too) will have switched to other platforms...
Yes it will be kind of a long wait...
Like the Lumia 810... :/
Wowww that's amazing news!!!!
I'm hoping for a preview soon like they have with the desktop version. Although, I'm sure the preview will come in the form of developer preview which probably wont be available until BUILD next year. Be worth the wait!
Coming to Verizon in 2087!
FUCK MY HTC 8X... FUCK!
HA, I believe the same was said in the past, but my Lumia 810 is still running on Amber and the dev preview. Go T-Mobile..
Carrier dependent?
Happy to hear! But still wary. I stick by my earlier comment in another post. If they don't upgrade WP8 phones to Win10 next year, it wont happen ever. But I'm still happy about this news. Seems my plan to hold onto my 920 until a Win10 phone comes out might have been a great plan after all!
fingers crossed for the 1030 as their first Windows 10 device
Awesome. But what would be even more impressive is if ALL windows phone 8 devices get access to the upgrade SIMULTANEOUSLY. Blanket update FTW.
I figured they would be upgraded. I understand what happened 2+ yrs ago, but i highly doubted that MS would pull that again especially with the changes made under the hood for wp8
Having 10 on Windows Phone 8 is great, but then is time to upgrade to a newer WP, don't you think?. Just saying.
I won't be upgrading until Microsoft release a phone with a better camera than the 1020...
(Best phone I've ever owned)
Unless users can opt in to it like 8.1 I'd be willing to be my 928 will never see Windows 10 thanks to Verizon.
Good to hear but these updates in the US are carrier dependent...ask Verizon customers still waiting for Cyan...
Sounds hopeful. I'll be looking forward to using windows 10 on my Lumia 925
Yeah Microsoft better start working w/ Verizon now if we want to see the update by 2016
Australia. Since Verizon is that bad, why not all of you change to another carrier? That would teach Verizon to be nice to Windows Phone user.
Fortunately I haven't any AT&T or Verison's device version I'm from Greece....i have nothing in common with these companies as they don't even exist in this country!
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great news, but again, not about to wait for T-Mobile to release that update let alone Denim...
we need OTG now
it is shame for microsoft that i have nokia lumia 1520 with the best hardware in the markt but i can not connect any other storage on my phablet but a normal smart phone with the Android os can use OTG
100% of WPs does not support USBOTG as apposed to 99.99% of "normal" androids.. just saying
Does this include NOKIA Lumia's....or just Microsoft branded Lumia's?
"All Lumia Windows 8 devices" is stated in the tweet.
Learn to read all the article before you ask a question.
well you won't be getting WP 10 or whatever they call it in 2015 if you are on Verizon. They won't be putting out WP 8.1 until 1st or 2nd Qtr 2015 not to mention Denim that is supposed to come after that!
But will it support Nokia Lumia 625? Because the default version of the phone's software was WP8 GDR3 and i dont think that it will update to WP10
YAY! Now I really hope I won't have to pay for a newer Windows (Phone) to get Win10. Perfect!
Will it be a Windows 10 phone, a Windows phone or Microsoft phone. Hard to call it a Lumia as Lumia is not on the new phones, though it is called a Lumia......idk
Yeah, could be the branding change. Or maybe we won't see any phone-devices from Microsoft anymore.
But even if we do.
Waiting for Windows 10 (which is due in a ducking year!) to get a new Lumia flagship is a bad joke.
Awesomeee!!!!
As a Verizon Icon owner, I doubt my phone will ever see an upgrade like that.
Love it, but I have a slight feeling it'll be more like the 7.8 update
I'm guessing since I was an idiot and went with verizon for my windows phone (Lumia Icon) that I'll forever be on the preview for developers edition unless I want to be stuck on vanilla 8.
Please make bigger version of 520! I love the 535 but i hate the looks! I really like the looks of 520! The design is really nice! Please tell Microsoft this!
Good news for sure, but since I'm on shitbag Verizon, I'll be going Dev Preview I imagine on my Icon....UNTIL my wife and I's edge agreements are up right around the time new handsets preloaded with 10 are available, and I can ditch these worthless fuckers for AT&T. I don't appreciate in the least my update being delayed so their lameass apps nobody wants or uses can "work perfectly"....which is a lie anyway since they sell the M8 with Cyan and 8.1, and haha, those apps NEVER worked perfectly before, why be bitches now? Fuck Verizon.
What about other devices with windows 8?Like Samsung HTC?
That's for those manufacturers to decide on whether to update their phones.
HTC promised two years support from the date of release for M8
Dont worry, we will get Windows 8.10 and the be forgotten like my NOKIA Lumia 900 ;)
Win10 for my Hand PC. Been dreaming for this seamless connectivity, for so long. I wish win10 accross devices reinstate MS as a platform leader.
Wow Microsoft! Just wow!
The more important question is how the roll out will be.... How long before some device get it will be very interesting... Also, will there be like a Windows Insider feedback program for dev previews?
Yes really excited and looking forward to windows 10!!!!!!!!
I finally Want some official facts on Windows 10 for Lumias!!!!!
Official Lumia icon getting windows phone 10 in 2017 hahahjajahahh
Awesome news. Hopefully it holds true.
Gud..
I hope windows phone 10 integrates Xbox music and video into one app. I absolutely loved the Zune marketplace. It made discovering music fun and the interface was beautiful
So my Lumia 630 won't be left out. Good news
Does this include the 1020? Curious since we are not getting Denim
That is why am holding of my purchase of new Lumia .i will wait nd buy wp 10 devices.
AWESOME!!!
"as opposed to the trend-breaking Windows Phone 8 OS"
They did the same to Windows Mobile, so the trend is to screw the customer.
Sprint doesn't even sell WPs anymore, hope DP allows me to see the new OS...
I'll believe it when my left behind aio/Cricket Lumia 620 gets it.
Hopefully, they'll update the Preview for Developers program to also include firmware updates. They really need to do that, and if they did, would make many people happy.
You would need an insane amount of precautions to ensure something as deep as prerelease firmware doesn't end in disaster.
As has been stated many times before the Preview for Developers isn't beta or "prerelease". The Lumia 620 hardware of my phone is the same as the global 620. I'm currently running the GB CV Cyan on my 620, so I know I'll get Win10. Just frustrating one has to jump through hoops using a flashing tool to get the right software on it. Imagine if if your ISP said whether or not your laptop could be updated?
Does that mean my Huawei Ascend will skip having an 8.1 update. Still hasn't come out and stuck on 8.
Please microsoft release update 1 and 2 timeline for Windows phone 8.1 then talk about windows 10
How competitive will be windows 10 w.r.t. Android lollipop or ios 8.1?
I'm happy at that and looking forward to it.
Great news, but I will probably use the Windows 10 launch as an excuse to get a new flagship....let's just hope Microsoft doesn't forget to launch a flagship along side.
Hell Yeah!
Duh. At least now the fear mongering naysayers can shut the F up.
It's time for Windows phone OS to shine!
Yes and no, but i'm a 920 owner and an 810 owner by proxy, which explains why.
Thank goodness for dev preview...shame they can't preview specific firmware...
It is for Windows phone 8 only,or 8.1 also??
Really? You have to ask that question?
Both... All x2x and x3x Lumias will be upgradeable!
All Windows Phone with a minimum of WP8 will get the WP10.
"All" Windows Phone 8 devices? Bet not for the Nokia Lumia 810...
Blame your carrier!
As long as Microsoft ditches the carriers from the update process, then it will be a win; until then this means nothing.
Thats good news as currently there isnt any other phone out there that i would change my Lumia 1520 for
Well, if you leave it to Verizon that will never happen...Those SOB at Verizon. But hopefully by the time W10 come out I will be with AT&T.
So, it feels like Windows 10 will be released before Verizon releases Windows 8.1
Surely it will be more diverse like PC's different hardware and specs, yet still be able to run?
When they say all Lumia will get it. Does it mean the preview will be available for all Lumia's or the actual release. And if so is it something that will be able to bypass OEMs, do they know if all OEMs will allow it, or is it something that won't require their approval
"Microsoft claims 'Windows 10 upgrades for all Lumia Windows Phone 8 devices'"*
"*unless you're on Verizon, in which case, please enjoy Lumia Black! It's great!"
I know your probably joking, but you could (in theory) get W10, while still having Lumia Black firmware.
Lumia Black? Must be nice to be so up to date!
-810 owner
Don't you mean Lumia Amber? lol
Just as long as it doesn't require Denim or Cyan...
...he wrote from his Icon.
Expected....
That's great news for us WP users. What was obviously left out is that until then we still struggle with lack of decent app updates and OS updates namely GDR1/2. Make the MS apps on WP better, reading that would be much better than reading we're getting WP 10 on our devices next year as next year is just that NEXT YEAR!!. We live in the now and right now we want a better Skype, Office, Facebook, IE do that and we'd be good until the next big thing. What MS doesn't see is that despite how little market share they have in the mobile market, WP users will be loyal as long as they/we have parity in our app experience in comparison to our direct rivals. We can wait for any OS update, ever wonder why we don't read so much IOS and Android users crying out for updates. They're satisfied with their OS and the apps made available to them, any update is a bonus plain and simple.
This is such good news. Well done msft
Now all the f**kers that said that WP8 won't get the update, get to apologise to all of us f**kers that said it would happen.
What about the virgins who said that?
What a news;!!
Not for Huawei Ascend W1 & W2 it won't. Not officially anyway.
How is a developer channel that gives you Microsoft-approved software not "official"? Either way, this statement was only for Lumias, so I don't even see what Huawei has to do with it.
Well, I was speaking about Huawei as well as Lumia. Developer channel is of course official, but there won't be any official firmware, the, W1 & W2 haven't even got official firmware for WP8.1.
Preview for developers!
Thought a whole bunch of Microsoft phone were gonna be announced on Tues? Didn't happen... So might not this... :-S
Of course that is provided carriers release them. I'm not sure AT&T will be releasing W10 for the 820 & 920.
My Unicorn is happy !
So as the rest of the world gets WP10, we on Verizon MIGHT be getting WP 8.1 ....
Ah, I feel like I just got wrapped in a warm blanket of Microsoft love
Great news for the few people who will still be using WP.
Which probably mean that samsung and htc devices are not included, which leads to me regretting the day i gave my money for ativ s. Thanks a lot samsung, you won't see me again.
Not, if you are a Verizon customer, which I won't be in January thank God.
I have no doubt that all actual Windows Phone 8 devices will be upgrade to Windows 10.
I'm just waiting for the release of a new windows 10 flagship device
I was agonizing over the HTC One M8 vs. the 830. Finally went 830, looks like I made the right call.
I can see why they announced for Lumia only. If 8.1 phones can be upgraded to 10, you have to assume they all can be. However with Microsoft needing to rely on the OEM's to release WP10 firmware, it's obvious that they can't speak for any of the non-Lumia product lines.
Hopefully HTC users get the update. Hopefully...
You made my day! They can't go back on their own words. My L925 and 920 will last longer than expected :D and so will my mum's L535, once I grab one for her :)
Love you Microsoft. I am waiting for my LUMIA 630 DUAL
DUAL what?
DUAL SIM
This is only if the carrier approves the update and we all know Verizon ( AKA No update Sally ) will not approve it. Verizon rather will discontinue 6 month old phones and sell a new model with Windows 10 on it.
Interesting the tweet specifies Lumia phones. Might that mean that other OEM devices may not receive the update? Also, as Paul Thurrott pointed out, MS has introduced 5 Lumia phones this year and it seems quite logical higher end phones are being held until Windows 10. I am quite happy with my 930 and was worth my 920. I know this phone has the engine to allow an upgrade, so I do feel confident.
This is so cool... Wow... Just wow...
Fuck yeah. Yeah babe. That's my company
I see all Lumia phones. Buyer beware about the HTC one
But the real question is are existing devices upgradable to Windows 11. /jk. I'm genuinely positive about this. Infact it was actually a no-brainer that this should be the case. But here's hoping that Windows 10 for Phones really delivers on the foundation of 8.1 whilst retaining/reviving the core OS experience. No matter what kinda OS they make, there are certain UX philosophies which they shouldn't have abandoned.
Probably when denim update rolls out windows 10 will be there on developer's preview.
Microsoft dint break a promise. 8.1 was said to b available for all n it is right now. This is a great news. Instead of forcing to purchase new devices, consuming old till it needs replacement sounds very economical.
Verizon will get this in 2017
Or maybe never.
Late 2017 is possible.
So .. No more love to other OEMs? HTC?
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