Spotify shows the world how to do Centennial apps the right way

Spotify's new Windows 10 app launched just yesterday and is likely going to be one of the more popular apps on the Windows Store for Microsoft. The Spotify app for Windows 10 is using the Centennial Desktop Bridge and is a port of Spotify's already popular desktop app. Unlike other developers, however, Spotify appears to have put a little bit of work into their centennial app to make the transition from the old Spotify app to the new Windows 10 Spotify app painless and straightforward.

If you're a Spotify user, you may have noticed that you didn't need to uninstall the executable version of the app before installing the version from the Windows Store. You may have also noticed that the Spotify from the Windows Store didn't create a secondary install of the app, forcing you to re-login and download your music again. Instead, the Spotify Windows 10 app is smart enough to simply take over an already existing Spotify installation, making the transition incredibly smooth.

Some Centennial apps on the Windows Store will create a secondary install of the same app that you may have already installed via an executable. Obviously, this doesn't make for a great user experience, so it's awesome to see Spotify putting the extra effort into making the installation of the Windows Store version of its app painless and seamless. It's a simple one-click install, and everything from your previous install of the app gets transitioned over to the new app.

Why even use the Windows 10 version?

So, if the Centennial version of the Spotify app is literally just the same as the executable version, why download from the Windows Store? In short, apps from the Windows Store are one-click download and install. You don't have to mess with any installers or shortcuts, you just click install, and Windows 10 does the rest. Furthermore, apps from the Windows Store are updated and maintained automatically, meaning the app itself doesn't need to check and download its own updates, that's handled by Windows 10 too.

And considering the Windows 10 Spotify app just replaces your already existing Spotify install, saving all your data along the way, the transition is seamless. For most people, they probably wouldn't even notice that you've installed Spotify for Windows 10 if they already had Spotify installed via the executable. Grabbing the app from the Windows Store is far more beneficial and straightforward than messing around with the executable version. I'd recommend getting it from the Windows Store.

Now, admittedly, there are a few Windows 10 specific features that are missing from the Centennial app. For starters, there's no real live tile just yet. The app tile itself is using a Windows 10-orientated design, including support for wide and large tile sizes, but there's no "live tile" element just yet. Perhaps that's coming soon, as I'd like to see Spotify add a similar live tile to that found on Groove, which displays album art for the current playing track. The app also appears to be missing mini-view support, something that can easily be added in future updates.

Microsoft's Centennial bridge allows for traditional desktop apps to come to the Windows Store for Windows 10 PCs and tablets. It's an incredible bridge that every Win32 app developer should be taking advantage of, and they should be taking advantage of it right now. We'd like to see more apps in the Windows Store from top developers. We have already got Slack, Office 365, Telegram, Kodi, and Photoshop Elements to name a few. 90 percent of the desktop apps I use are now in the Store, and it makes for a much more seamless user experience. Everything should be in the Store.

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Zac Bowden is a Senior Editor at Windows Central. Bringing you exclusive coverage into the world of Windows on PCs, tablets, phones, and more. Also an avid collector of rare Microsoft prototype devices! Keep in touch on Twitter: @zacbowden.

133 Comments

I like how informative this article was, great job Zac.
I installed it over an existing installation this afternoon, and I was flabbergasted to see it replacing the other one. Aren't store apps supposed to be sandboxed, i.e. they're not supposed to have access to the rest of the system like that? Same thing goes for the registry, they're supposed to be limited to a sandboxed registry. I wonder if the previous Win32 app had been changed to prepare for this migration?
Java is sandboxed, but it as well has some access to your system, so it is nothing big.
ive found 2 missing thing on the new spotify.. when i open spotify and play some music... then minimize it to the bottom and when i hover my mouse on the spotify icon it doesnt show preview window and back play forward buttons anymore second missing thing is i have back play stop forward buttons on my keyboard... those wont work if spotify is minimized
Weird... I just tested it and in both cases it works fine for me, just as it did before.
Rly? What keyboard r u using? Im using logitech g710+
I have the problem with the media buttons, as well. As soon as Spotify's window is not in focus, the play, pause, previous/next keys stop working. This is the keyboard of my laptop (Lenovo w510)... However, the preview on mouse hover is fine, at least...
Oh... I guess I gotta try rebooting
I also had these issues, so I immediately uninstalled and re installed the regular non store program. I need to be able to pause the music if I'm not in the app itself. I have the same issue with grove music app unfortunately, which is actually what forced me to seek out Spotify in the first place
when i rebooted it started to work again! :o try to reboot ur computer
Well, this app can view/use all system permissions.
Yeah, the media control support is gone in this Centennial version of Spotify. Odd considering that recent Spotify updates got better integration to Windows 10 media controls that you can even use it on Lockscreen, now in Centennial version its missing. Not sure if its something to do with the conversion process or Centennial limitation. Looks like I have to use the non-Store version of Spotify simply because of missing features and there is really no real benefit to have the Centennial version, except if you use Windows 10 S or just choose to restrict your Windows 10 to only install from Windows Store. The lack of media control support and not even supporting Live Tile, as an additional advantages over the non-Store ones, isn't much worth it atm. Auto-updates? That has been the case on Spotify for eons. Its common for desktop apps these days to have their own update mechanism, the only difference is we don't manage the updates in central location such as on Windows Store. I wished that Microsoft should've at least help these popular desktop apps to actually take advantage of Windows 10 features such as Live Tiles and not even to forget features that used to work. Because having these shortcomings leaves a bad taste to Windows Store. Still its on the right direction, but MS needs to ensure nothing left behind and also encourage to take advantage new features as a "Store Exclusive" to promote the advantage of apps from Windows Store.
They probably really wanted this live in time for the Windows 10 S launch (Microsoft perhaps even pressured them) and I think we should give them a chance to add UWP/Win10 specific features over the next few weeks to a month. The reasons you mentioned though are why I don't agree with the title of the article though
Maybe that seems the case, basically its been rushed and maybe this only been thought about not too long ago, less time to prepare to even test features that may be missing or not working. But yeah, I also don't agree with the title of this article except if you are Windows 10 S users which you don't have any other choice anyways. Basic features that don't work (at least consistently) like media control integrations, and not even having Live Tile support to make it better than the non-Store version, makes this Spotify from Windows Store isn't something "a must" have. Auto-updates? Well the regular Spotify don't really have one I think, but it always have its own update mechanism which it seems like Zac forgotten about it. Still this is a right direction don't get me wrong. Though I just don't want to overhyped it when even basic things is not yet there and no real significant benefits over the regular Spotify variant. For now, this is great for other reasons but not reasons like every people should do.
I just install Windows Store app and integration with media control work just fine, from lock screen, keyboard etc. The win32 version was replaced.
Well if that's the case for you, then this is rather weird case then. Not sure where the problem lies but I guess its related to Centennial. Also are you sure you can control Spotify even when its minimized and when its out of focus, which is the point of able to control them with media controls. In my case nothing is shown on the lockscreen, there is no way to control it on keyboard or other peripheral devices that have media control support since Windows supporting it, and no volume integration which also show if its really using the API on Windows. The Centennial Spotify became less modern experience expected on music players these days.
I don't use spotify... (google music user) but I tried controlling SoundCloud when it's minimized, and it worked both on my surfce pro 4 and alienware. App specific maybe? Maybe need to file a report. Wish I can switch tho (Groove? since I also own xbox) but my wedding day playlist is with Google...
Update to my status. I read other comments and did a restart, apparently it works normally now. Not sure where the problem lies but this is only the Centennial music player app that I have and I'm guessing it has to do with Centennial. All my other UWP music apps such as Groove Music, Pandora and AudioCloud (Soundcloud client) works just fine. Hopefully that Microsoft will find and fix this problem, since its not great when things don't work out-of-the-box. Also in regards to your case, hopefully that Microsoft would able to implement importing playlist from Google Music too. There are alot of people use that services too and said to be pretty good. I'm not a Google Music user myself even I own Android since there are just too many services that I'm dealing with atm.
Uninstalling the old application is a feature of the Desktop Bridge. On Microsoft's walkthrough on converting an app it explains everything about it.
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN THE STORE. Bring photo and video editors like Photoshop and Premiere, media players like VLC classic and Zune media player to the store too.
Two things. First, it's upto the developers. Second, there are still limitations on UWP that limits app's features.
Centennial is NOT UWP
True, but many media outlets have been referring to it as such; In some cases Microsoft have fallen foul of that too. Centennial apps can hook into the UWP APIs, but using Spotify as the example it doesn't look like they've done this at all (yet)...Example being they don't use the music playback API from UWP so the song etc. doesn't appear in the volume overlay when using the Surface volume control.
UWP is a set of APIs. Since Centennial apps can use those APIs they are UWP.
I WISH Adobe would bring all the Creative Cloud stuff to the store. I don't use their cloud storage service and hate having that extra updater/launcher running just to be able to use the apps and keep them updated
Yes, truly a pain.
Subscription-based applications from big companies like Adobe, may not show up in the store as long as customers keep choosing external Adobe payment options instead. Adobe may have to negotiate terms with Microsoft on payment fees. See how Spotify complained about Apple App Store percentage-based fees, for instance. But I agree: I rather have everything in the Windows Store.
ZUNE! :) ❤
I am a new Spotify user, I wouldn't have ever downloaded the Win32 version, so Spotify got at least one new customer just because they support the store. It's a pretty good app.
the same with me noflames2... I am not a user.. why not see the app
Well I tried to download to my 950 which was a no go. What gives?
Centenial Apps are Win32, they won't run on an ARM processor.
It's not because it's on the store that it supports phone. It's just a Win32 app that was migrated to the store. It doesn't have any idea how to scale it's UI down to a small, vertical screen. You'd have to have a full universal app for that, which this is not.
This is part of the problem when people hear uwp app.
I remember when it was first said to be coming at build and people was going on about it meaning it would work on Xbox, and i said it didn't mean that at all, but they was having problems accepting it could be a cenntinual app
Centennial apps are really sandboxed Win32 apps, with access to UWP API's - That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue though so most sites (and in some odd cases MS themselves) refer even to straight Centennial conversions as UWP. It's technically wrong, but not our problem to deal with. From a commercial side MS don't really care because W10M users are in small numbers - Anybody using W10M now is probably either an enthusiast who can understand why a store app doesn't always run on phones or a very average user who doesn't care
UWP is a set of APIs. Any apps that uses those APIs called UWP apps. Since Centennial apps can use those APIs they are UWP.
My point was that when it was announced people kept saying it was coming to Xbox, and i said it could be a centennial app and need to wait and see as we hadn't been told.
But some refused to believe it could be the case because what would be the point of it.
After a while i just left it as not worth arguing, i was just trying to explain that it wasn't a for gone conclusion.
Except I have it running on my phone right now so it does indeed work..
There is a version of Spotify in the store - A WP8.1 app I believe. I don't use it though because Groove is better IMO (for me). Integrates best with my phone, also has music videos and runs on Xbox (Sony has console exclusivity for Spotify on consoles) - It was also still cheaper (for a single membership) last I checked
Well I am sat here using it on my L950 right now so what gives? Maybe you tried to get it too early..??
Or you are using the old app, which is kind of horrible and not supported any longer. Groove is better.
Except Groove has no family plan so it's a non-starter for many people who pay wife/partner/kids music subs.
I just installed the Windows 10 version and it automatically migrated my user name and password so I didn't have to type anything. Just for that alone I'll give it high praise.
Kodi does the same thing. Pretty cool to not have to start over.
As you say Zak: "Everything should be in the Store."
As has been covered elsewhere, there are still numerous reasons why it is not this simple. For example, you can get WinZip from the Microsoft Store, but because shell integration is still something that UWP apps can't do, the UWP version of this application lacks a key feature that is still present in the desktop version. And despite the Store's benefits, for some applications and developers there may still be no compelling reason to publish on the Store.
Apps from the windows store, I'm finding out suck. If you have a windows store app with in app purchases, you'll notice you need to be actively logged into the store to use the app. I'm dealing with a Windows Store app where I've got about $100 in in app purchases and because of some api issue on Microsoft's side that logs your purchases, none of my in app purchases show now. Microsoft can't even restore them. All they can do is refund me and I'm still waiting for that to happen. Just give me the desktop version please.
That is a real problem, yes. Also in-app purchases are region locked. Changing your region will probably screw them up, or give you some sort of a problem. I'm having a variation of the problem and I can't buy some stuff. Really knows to be frustrating.
@NIST, I can conceive of situations where that would be the case due to the original pre-Windows Store design, but there's no need for that to be the case. Cross-platform apps that store the data on their server, like even Amazon's old Kindle app, for example, obviously have no problem supporting use of the app on multiple systems regardless of the delivery mechanism and all content is available on all versions of the app, regardless of how it was acquired. In-app purchases would be at risk due to poor design by the original app creator who used your local computer to store the app's purchase data and didn't provide a good port or keep a history record of your purchases on their server. As noted in the article, a good port to a Windows Store app (not sure how) is apparently able to even access the prior version's data. I think you may be being misled by the app developer who is making excuses for a shoddy port or a poor original design of their pre-Windows Store version.
I'm disappointed it doesn’t work in InstantGo. I will stick with Groove and MP3 on my tablet until it does.
It will need to move completely to UWP for that - Hopefully it does happen in the future
Happy to see new apps joining the party hope it will be on cshell for mobile. I'll play with it from time to time. But I'm a devoted Zune, I mean Xbox music no Groove music lol fan.
I still use my Zune and the Zune software lol :)
One of us!
In it's current form it could only run on a phone if it supports the x86 emulation MS have shown in the cellular PCs. Hopefully they do a full UWP app at some point as Windows 10 usage grows. Right now it would be extra work to maintain a separate app just for W10 users.
IF Microsoft manages to get developers to do with their apps what Spotify did, they might actually pull the "move everything to the Store" off. Granted I would still think twice if I were a developer (why would I willingly share revenue with Microsoft?) but apart from that. The lack of a Live Tile won't bother 99% of Windows 10 users though. Because they also aren't likely to even use tiles. Let's see if more developers will follow Spotify's lead or not. I think we'll get a good idea when iTunes is made available on the Windows Store.
"Granted I would still think twice if I were a developer (why would I willingly share revenue with Microsoft?) " IIRC, they don't need to share revenue with Microsoft if they can provide their own payment system. It's when they use Mcirosoft's payment service that Mcirosoft takes a cut. With it being free by default, all they're shearing with Microsoft is their presence, making the Windows Store more attractive.
I am currently converting my company's product for running in the store. It literally took about an hour, most of that time was to download the 3GB tools. As for revenue, nope, not one bit toes to Microsoft. Unlike Apple, Microsoft does not force you to go through their payment system. You can if you don't want to setup a payment provider, let that provider take their cut, etc. But for us, who has a payment provider, a trial system, online payment, etc. We don't send one cent to Microsoft, we will use them as a way to allow people to find our application and an easy way to get started. As for the live tile, it can be done. The documentation tells you how.
What app is this? I'd download it even if I don't need it. :D
I use live tiles on my pc, one reason why I prefer store apps to the desktop version or Web page
@DJCBS, in the marketing world, distribution and accessibility to customers is one of the key elements to consider (the Place 'P' of the four P's of marketing). IF (big if) the Store has customer traffic, then Microsoft is likely adding value, even while taking 30%. Based on standard margins and cost calculations for, it probably needs to drive about 15% - 22% increase in downloads or sales to make up for the 30% cut. Also, as @MrElectrifyer pointed out, MS only takes 30% if they are handling the financial transactions, which is another value-added service. Amazon handles this, for example, by choosing not to let users buy books through the Kindle app on iOS or their Windows Store app -- customers must buy the book on the Amazon web site or a physical Kindle, and then the content is available in the Kindle app. That way they don't pay Apple or MS 30%.
Inkscape came out on the store too, it's worth covering.
And Vectr
Dude that's awesome!
Really? Cool. I hadn't seen that!
After Spotify's treatment of Windows mobile, I have little how this port will be no more than a port. I see no reason to install the app store version since Spotify updates itself. The only difference is you might have to wait a minute for it to finish updating.
All UWP apps (which this is, even if it's via Centennial) are sandboxed, so if there's some security bug in their app that gets exploited, there's less risk to your PC than if it's an unrestricted .exe file. With apps that have large install bases like Spotify I think that's appealing in and of itself.
Great news, I mostly use Groove but nice to see Spotify finally come to the store.
Another app to be heavily used in Windows 10 S marketing.
Nice! Just installed it now on my Surface Pro 2. Kodi also offered a similar seamless transition from the Desktop app to the Windows Store app. Although, IIRC, did need to manually uninstall the old one after installing the store app, but all settings and configurations seamlessly transitioned to the store app.
You are lucky! I have installed both Spotify and Kodi (Centennial) and they will not open. I have a Surface Pro 3.
Do you have pending updates? Go update and reboot. Are you running Creators Update or Anniversary Update? On Anniversary Update, you need to login to a MS account to use the Store, especially for 3rd party apps. On Creators Update, free apps may be used even if you're not login to Store. At least, that's my experience on some office laptops using Local account. Lastly, you can run the Store Troubleshooter. Your Store license may be out of Sync.
Just as you describe it, smooth and painless. Great job!
"Spotify shows the world how to do Centennial apps the right way" it doesn't show the world, it shows the supported countries only
You killed it right there man 👌
Saaavage!!! This comment should be on top.
picked it up and signed up under the 3-month promotion. When will Groove get a family plan. geez
Does it allow audio playback while Surface is in a lower powered mode yet?
You mean playback while display is off? Glad you asked....it doesn't. This is imho the main advantage of apps but of course they don't use it. I don't think that this app is worth anything. Its just nice for W10 s but that's it. I want a real W10 UWP app which is optimized for touch and also works for mobile as well as Xbox. But this means Spotify actually giving a f*** about the windows ecosystem which they don't (besides their win32 application).
From the headline I expected to read that they had implemented some UWP features...I don't see from the article what they've done other than straight up "wrap" the win32 app. It's nice it automatically removes the old Win32 version but I don't agree they've shown the world how anything is done right. This isn't Spotify's fault though and they've not done anything negative, just a poorly titled article IMO
Huh. It's not poorly titled, that's exactly what a big part of what the centennial bridge does is to be able to distribute win32 apps through the store so you don't have to download .exe files from the web. You CAN also implement some UWP features for win32 apps using the bridge, but in this case they haven't yet. The "doing it right" part is that it's a seamless transition and people don't end up having two installation files of the same program and users don't have to transfer data or anything. It would be bad press if users became confused about centennial apps through the store and regular .exe files they get from a website, it needs to feel like one and the same.
It's not showing the world how it should be done though - They've done the basics, which as I say is absolutely fine....Spotify aren't wrong to only do that as a first release, but there's much more that CAN be done, and hopefully will - Live tiles, Cortana Integration etc. It's a good example of how it works, but other companies have also put their Win32 apps in the store with the Centennial bridge, and they've done just as good of a job as Spotify
Had a really difficult time getting it to come up in the Windows Store for some reason? After about 6 failed attempts searching "Spotify" and following the link in this article, it FINALLY opened the Windows Store page to install the app.
it was just released, patience is a virtue
lol, don't be so sure they will update the store app regulary :)). Zac fanboy :))
Great! I'm glad to see this product in the Windows Store. Be that as it may, Groove is my preferred app/music service. It's really that good IMO. I hope MS will "really" market Groove and be competitive with Spotify and other popular music apps/services.
Nice to see the effort by Spotify. Now waiting for Apple Music.
It was a smooth transition indeed! Awesome thing the developers did! But, will this work on the Xbox One?
Does the current Win32 app work on Xbox?
no win32 app works on xbox, and the ones on the store, maybe, but i don't think so
No, the current Win32 app doesn't run on Xbox so this won't - Also Sony have tied up exclusive rights to have Spotify on console
It can't but even if it could run on the Xbox it wouldn't as Spotify has a deal with Sony. They replaced their own music service with Spotify so now PlayStation Music is pretty much a Spotify service. So it's not a deal that will end anytime soon.
I hope spotify is also willing to share the pros and cons of coding with centennial bridge. This way microsoft could even making coding more smart, which would further smoothen the experience, diminish hurdles in converting apps for windows and make it even easier, perhaps even a no-brainer to simply convert it to the store. I think there is one other issue that needs ironing out with the store though. I know a group of people in my network who are weary that you must fill in your credit card details before you can even access the windows store, even to access the free apps. It would be helpful if microsoft coud:
A. be more lenient in being able to download free apps with the store without creditcard details having to be compulsary shared.
B. Many people in the world don't have a credit card. It should be possible to use other payment methods other than gift cards to pay. I know in paypal is an option now as well. But it would even be better if other payment solutions were allowed. In my country it would make the world of difference if a payment method like iDeal was supported. It would rreally help open up regional market support in a big way.
I know a group of people in my network who are weary that you must fill in your credit card details before you can even access the windows store, even to access the free apps
What?? You can access the store without connecting credit card details. I just tested it on my mum's laptop!
Microsoft really now need to give some love to their Groove service. They need family payment plans. The only reason I subscribe to Groove is because it is the only app that works on my windows mobile. But I refuse to pay double just to get my wife on-board. Now I have spotify working on both our phones and we can add the kids it becomes much better value. So microsoft just lost a groove subscriber..
Shall try it out. Only thing I don't like is the flashy square icon. Desktop shortcuts on my accent color are way nicer.
Takes ages to open (on my Surface3) and is not using connected standby...
No under Sleep playback is missing too. I'm going to happily stay with my Deezer :P
Porting is ok, but Spotify needs a real Universal app. Just read the Spotify forums how people is complaining since years ago.
Installed it, and realised -again- even the free version requires an account. And no, I'm not going to link a FB/Google/whatever account so it can be data harvested.
And yes, I'm one of those crazy persons that doesn't like to have an email account linked to everything out there ;)
Smart :)
Paaaraaanoiiiiiiiidddd.
Ridiculing someone like this is exactly why people are unable to unify for real change and individuals' control over their own lives. What does paranoia have to do with what the Terms and Conditions (and history) spell out what actually is happening and is GOING to happen? One has a right to decide what one shares, regardless of the reason. If you don't want your data harvested, you don't want your data harvested.
He's avoiding a popular service because he doesn't want to link a account to a new Spotify account. His loss, as the data is already floating around the web in one way or another. I'm thinking big picture. Your data is everywhere, whether you like it or not. That's just reality. There's no point in avoiding things purely because you think you're helping yourself by not giving a little bit more information to another website. There's no stopping it. Just sign up, use the services, and go on living happily. #IMO
"I'm thinking big picture. Your data is everywhere, whether you like it or not. That's just reality. There's no point in avoiding things purely because you think you're helping yourself by not giving a little bit more information to another website. There's no stopping it. Just sign up, use the services, and go on living happily."
That's not the big picture. That's the limited picture. What school of thought keeps reseeding these fallacies? Your data is not everywhere unless you actually provide it.
Do you really think that your data that's kept with one service actually stays with that service? It's sold and shared, hence why it ends up everywhere (public or not).
You're missing the point. Would you elect to share your data in the way that it is surreptitiously collected or sold without your consent? RobWuu's stance is principled and sound. Your stance advocates insouciance regardless of the dozens of massive data breaches that have caused many losses to the individuals whose data had been sold and shared.
"Would you elect to share your data in the way that it is surreptitiously collected or sold without your consent?"
How is that question relevant? It doesn't matter as our data is being distributed regardless of consent. There's nothing that can be done about it; it's just the way it is. Another example would constantly be afraid that an asteroid would come barreling through the sky, instantly eliminating humans. Why constantly be afraid of something you can't control? In the case of data, we have no control over what is done with it. Not signing up for a new service won't solve anything as any existing services you are a part of are already doing it.
You are burying everything you are defending with defenseless "logic".
"Would you elect to share your data in the way that it is surreptitiously collected or sold without your consent?"
"How is that question relevant? It doesn't matter as our data is being distributed regardless of consent. There's nothing that can be done about it; it's just the way it is."
It's relevant to the OP, myself and many others.
"Another example would constantly be afraid that an asteroid would come barreling through the sky, instantly eliminating humans. Why constantly be afraid of something you can't control?"
A strawman argument? No one on Earth has ever contributed anything to the existence of an asteroid barreling through the sky that would "instantly eliminate humans". You're going even deeper down the wrong rabbit hole. But, back on topic, humans are mindlessly contributing to the data harvest because of the "go along living happily" mentality like we don't know any better that this "go along living happily" mentality is an enormous misnomer of what is actually taking place with the internet. The data that gets shared and sold (and breached) is conveyed by individuals. What is conveyance? Something you can control. Why advocate for the continued contribution to the problem by opening up more fronts on your personal "attack surface"?
"Not signing up for a new service won't solve anything as any existing services you are a part of are already doing it."
By not signing up for a new service, the the OP's personal information won't be readily accessible to yet another service, thus limiting openings to the OP's personal attack surface for data harvesting. That may not be valuable to you (because f*ck it if doing so limits entrancetainment options), but it's valuable to millions who'd rather not be treated like cells in the petrie dish of technocratic data scientists' social engineering goals (http://theinternationalforecaster.com/topic/international_forecaster_weekly/big_data_exposed).
"The data that gets shared and sold (and breached) is conveyed by individuals. What is conveyance? Something you can control. Why advocate for the continued contribution to the problem by opening up more fronts on your personal "attack surface"?"
Except that there's nothing that we can control in regard to personal data and where & how it's being shared.
"By not signing up for a new service, the the OP's personal information wont readily accessible availabe to yet another service, thus limiting the OP's personal attack surface. That may not be valuable to you (because f*ck it if doing so limits my entrancetainment options), but it's valuable to millions who'd rather not be treated like cells in the petrie dish of technocratic data scientists' social engineering goals."
Any service the OP is a part of that Spotify utilizes for account creation is already sharing information with each other. So, again, I just fine no reason to be concerned or paranoid about personal, digital data being shared. I'll sign up for anything of interest in any way offered as there's no point in being worried over the data that's being shared that I have no control over.
You're right about data is being sold among companies, and that's the ONE reason to post as LITTLE information about yourself online. Nothing to do with paranoia, but just common sense, as other people tried to explain to you. But he... it's a (partly) free world where you (sometimes) can express your opinions (without being prosecuted)..
cheers!
"Nothing to do with paranoia, but just common sense, as other people tried to explain to you."
I'm just not someone who would avoid things just because a little more basic information has to be provided. It's not like that information is being made public. I have nothing to hide, so I just don't see the concern.
I've got nothing to hide! The basic answer to kill these discussions....
Read up on how data is used, and the ease of misusage with even the littlest of information. Everybody has something to hide, and it starts with your basic personal info, social security stuff and bank information. You don't want to be victim of indentity theft.
So saying you have nothing to hide and dropping all your info all over the place is very very naive to say the least.
Let's not get carrier away now... Of course people wouldn't blindly give information away, such as their SSN. Things like email addresses and maybe phone numbers to sign up for a fancy new online service of some sort? Sure! All day long.
so create a new email account to a new spotify account, problem solved. or better yet: https://www.mailinator.com/
Create an Alias account with a fake name, then link all those accounts to the alias. Problem solved.
Meh just create a fake account/email address then
If I sign up for paid Spotify through the app, does MS get 30%?
No. Spotify has their own payment solution. Only if you do it through your Android/ios-device.
I agree 100% with you Zac. But sadly I do not see the same happening in the near future for 90% of the apps I use... :/
I suppose developers of big companies with special price strategies for their products are especially sceptical about the centennial bridge. (...30% cut for MS for example) I hope MS will promote the advantages for developers much more intensively.
You'd think that a company like MS that really needs it's store to grow would let app payments slide for as long as it takes to build the store. Stupid.
It's all great and whatnot. But Windows users have been using executable for eons, and the "old" spotify auto-updates also.
Yes but third party auto-updates require extra start up processes that diminish your performance. I'm personally look foward to getting rid of third party updaters as they seriously affect start up times and I have a pretty beefy system.
I hope Spotify Web Player gets more development attention. https://play.spotify.com/ It's trash right now, but, as with any web service, I prefer to run most that require the web in the browser with as many "native" features of the service available as possible.
This is just on desktop Windows 10 right no plans to make it available on mobile. If UWP was really universal I can run it on a Windows 10 mobile phone right.
No. Spotify still needs to design the app to enable Portrait style used in most mobile phones and they'll need to make some changes to their code if they use APIs that are not supported by Win 10 Mobile.
Houston, We got a Problem. I'm tryna connect my Spotify on my Last.fm account for scrobbling but it can't connect. Anyone know how to solve this?
lovely store app....
Im waiting for the itunes app .
Same.
The new Spotify app is indeed superb, and running a hi-fi/music forum it's important for us to discuss music. However, the new Photoshop Elements 15 app is the usual rubbish from Adobe. It has already crashed or frozen several times. What is it with Adobe and software? Don't even get me started on their support.
Until it runs with the screen off this is all BS
3 cheers to Spotify! I wish Facebook would use MS bridge rather than their own. I think the browser in the FB app is Safari. It performs horribly in the FB app. If they use MS bridge, the browser would be Edge, with all the integration thereof with Win 10. Keep the apps coming!

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Why even use the Windows 10 version?

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