Nokia as of late has been all about teasing new phones before their announcement. The Verizon Nokia Lumia 928's camera was repeatedly teased before its formal reveal on Friday, and with a new Nokia Lumia announcement scheduled for Tuesday in London, Nokia's at it again. This time the teasing is happening on national television in the UK on Channel 4, with an advertisement noticed by TechCrunch that focuses on the camera of an as-of-yet unannounced Lumia device, followed by title cards reading "More than your eyes can see" and "The new Nokia Lumia is coming". In other words, the Catwalk cometh.
Unlike Nokia's teasing of the Lumia 928 where the focus was on images produced by the camera, the new teaser ad focuses on the physical camera unit itself, with close-up shots of the raised lens and dual-LED flash. Unlike the Lumia 920, 928, and, well, every Lumia excepting the 520/521 and the 710, the camera featured here is not surrounded by a glossy black or silver plate. In fact, there's a distinct lack of branding around the camera, with just a hint of lettering on the other side of its hump.
The shape and placement of the camera, the flash, and the branding are consistent with the image leak of the Catwalk from last month. By all appearances the Catwalk appears to be built with an aluminum body frame while still possessing a plastic-type back panel. The device is also reportedly significantly lighter and thinner, though unlike the current flagship Lumia 920/928 combo, the Catwalk does not appear to come with built-in wireless charging.
Regardless, we're less than two days from the official unveil of the new Nokia Lumia XXX, with yet another improved camera and a build radically different from anything Nokia's released as a Lumia before. What do you think?
Update: Our folks over at The Verge managed to snag a copy of the ad - it's below.
Source: TechCrunch, The Verge
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Catwalk camera gets teased in UK TV ad prior to Tuesday's Nokia event
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Why isn't this ad on US national TV?
This has to be marketting genius... show one billboard picture and later one advert early and everyone is talking about it on every website without barely paying a dime.
Wonderful stuff.
I want one even though I don't even know what it is... looking forward to tomorrow!
Saphire lens at 0:04?
Are you all sure that this is for T-Mobile!!!!!!????
I am not in the market for a new phone at the moment (quite happy with my seemingly indestructable L920), but the new L928 and Catwalk are super exciting to me mostly due to the sheer speed of progress. When my contract is up at the end of 2014 there ought to be some astounding options to upgrade to. My next phone will definately need something like a full PureView camera on it. I picked my L920 over the 8x even though I liked the 8x better, purely because of the camera. Having small kids I have found the camera invalueable. The quality is not as good as my dedicated camera, but I never caught good pictures with the dedicated camera because by the time I found it, got it going, and messed with settings, the moment would be over. With the phone I can just pull it out and capture the moment. The L920 is 'good enough' as a point and shoot, but a true full PureView camera would be even more awesome by bringing back a real zoom functionality to a pocket camera, and probably rival the quality of my standalone camera.
A good camera phone is something every parent needs!
Please tell me that bump is not true. Looks ugly....
Not true
Does that say "60" above the camera? 60 mp camera????
When will it be available in the US? The only thing apple does better than the rest is announce and release within days...granted it is only one product at a time.
This is a Lumia Tablet
I'm ready!!! <3
Crunch time tomorrow reveal the beast already!
Yeaaaaaaahhhg
If this is the same phone that was leaked in April...
Basically a 920 that's thinner but only 16GB storage, still no SD, and no wireless charging.
Kinda sucks actually.
Only six months and my 920s being replaced, damn looks like I gotta buy catwalk and eos this year, I agree with comment above that Nokia should release whole range once a year.
Why would you buy Catwalk? If it's the same phone that leaked a month ago it's just a thinner 920 that has less storage and no Qi charging.
No one knows at this point what is being released. With all the rumors I have no idea myself, I do expect an increase in the camera sensor, plus t-mobile is getting this phone, Vodafone, and probably internationally as well. Slimmer, less weight, and better camera? A lot of people will like that.
Still using my Lumia 900. Waiting to see what this one has before I upgrade to a WP8.
I don't get Nokia, I have always liked their designs, but this 'catwalk' just looks cheap and nasty if the leaked images are are anything to go by.
Just a dual led flash? No xenox or whatever that thing is called?
Yeah, and no coffee maker and microwave oven. Bummer...
n im eagerly waiting fr this
I do like Nokia's aggressiveness but doesn't this make the 928 "feel" outdated. Span seems way too short to release new phones. With the ability from the 920 I'm probably set for another year with it (happier than ever ofcourse) but when I want my next Nokia after a year I'm going to have a hard time deciding when to get a phone.
大爱诺基亚，期待下一代新机
Seems like the same size camera in Lumia 920 just aluminium body? No Xenon flash
I think they want to be able sell 920 as well but they would like to put this out for someone who wants a slimmer lighter phone.. obviously there will eb some minor improvements to camera. This is what i am expecting.
The next one which comes in June or July or Sept, will be the 41 MP monstor.
If they release one better than 920 then you should be seeing 920's cost being reduced a lot. which is not the case. This will be an option for pple who dont like the weight of 920. And it will come without wireless charging.
This is my guess/
Ya an SD card slot would help I have be down under 10 gugs so I had to remove some games to bring it up. More storage please.
Hopefully they don't start straying away from the original Lumia design! # if nothing wrong with the outside don't change it! Just make the internal more better...
its proably the 920 but for t moble
This is not a US announcement for a phone guys. Not every phone in the world is for the US. This is a UK announcement and Vodafone will be the exclusive carrier for the UK. Maybe they will announce an international version at the same time, but this is not an announcement for a phone to be released in the USA.
No Vodafone said they will take on any new Nokia phones. They won't get it exclusively
if i were nokia, im making eos a 4.7-5.0 inch 1080p screen with 41mp pureview camera. and slap some bigger battery.quadcore,. that way it can be slimmer coz the phone will have bigger dimensions in length width. then the camera bump will be smaller
Nokia is already testing quad core phones but they seem to be having issues with battery life.
then they should improve that bloody battery life.
well the phone is slim so the lens is sticking out.. this is not the 41 mp moster.... i dont think it i s the right time since that has to be releassed for fall/ christmas this year and also give all the 92X some time in the limelight..
guys whats happening on the 24th May, I have this from Facebook and Windows Phone.
"Want a 1st look at the next release of Windows Phone? Mark your calendars for Tuesday, May 24th at 2:30PM PST for a live preview of what's coming."
anyone have any more info on what this is??? kinda sounds like windows phone blue but im not sure???
Not sure why that's still up. look at the date though, it says may 24th 2011. probably for the announcement of Mango.
I hope they also talk a bit about phablet. I wont buy any 9xx but a phablet with cool pureview xeon led. You know from wp 7.8, jump to 8.1 :)
A quad core processor and 1080p screen would be nice. Also, seeing how WinPhone 8 is so light it would blow the S4 out of the water in speed.
gaaaa these teasers are killing me. i wanna see the phone in full. its either 928 or catwalk for me so hurry up and let me see the damn phones!!!
Yes, I'm pumped.
This phone should be called the "NOKIA LUMIA PUREVIEW". That's it. No numbering. Its still a Lumia
=| ... Meh
Omg this will be exclusive to att again... No wonder the 920 went from $99 to $0.. I will be patiently waiting
Camera is 8.7 Megapixels.. Sames as Lumia 920.
Better camera software onboard. Probably GDR2 Firmware
Super AMOLED screen...
Specs for this device has been on PocketNow for a week or so.....
Yes, they obviously are a reliable source..../s
Yeah!!! Ha ha... Silly me...
This is a UK announcemnt guys, vodafone will also be in attendance for this reveal. An international version may also be revealed, but the phone above its a release for a new Vodafone Lumia.
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a better sensor than the Lumia 920/928. Nokia could be playing a game with us, but watching some of the ads makes me feel like this isn't the "Eos" but maybe a smaller sensor with the same oversampling that was found in the Pureview 808. It is of couse a bummer there is no Xenon, but if the sensor is better than what's on the 920 with OIS I think most people would be extremely happy.
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No Qi charging, No sale...
Im hoping they have colored wireless charging backs. I don't think its terrible as long as it's cheaper than a high end (920) with wireless charging.
With the camera bump will this have PureView? I'm wondering.
Hold on.. I thought the EOS was going to be the one with the 41MP... ?
The bump prevents the back from touching a surface when laying on its back. The contact point in the lens is not dead center on the glass but rather on its edge. The bump may improve speakerphone acoustic performance... I should get a part-time job in marketing with Nokia.
Think this will come out on T-Mobile USA? I hope so.
How much music do you have on your device?
41 mp come on baby
Looks like the 41MP Pureview is back. Thats a mighty large looking len/sensor.
Camera bump and "more than your eyes can see" sounds a lot like lossless zoom pureview, which means 41mp. The only thing I'm finding weird is that it should have a xenon flash, not dual led. Well, let's just wait.
If this phone has a quad core and a bigger screen than my 920 then it's mine! Bet that up homeboiiiiiiiiii
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151244746372397&set=a.338008237396.161268.36922302396&type=1&theater
Can you spot the guys ice fishing in front of Nokia HQ?
+1 thanks for reminding us of this... we forget these teases sometimes!
That wasn't a teaser. The Nokia employee who took that pic already said that it was not a teaser.
Camera isn't mentioned plus it does look like more than the eye can see
what are you all talking about? thats just the lumia 920 variant in a slimmer aluminum body.
no 41mp monster here
Not only is that intuitively obvious, its what Daniel has been telling us for weeks!
That said, I'm still excited. I'm really eager to see a premium Lumia in a trim profile.
Not sure why people are getting upset about the possible hump, it depends how its finished, if its a one piece Aluminum matt finish, which from the last tease shot it looks to have it will look pretty amzing. And for the neat looking size of that lense it going to be a very nice compromise for all thst extra light coming in to what will hopefully be a bigger sensor.
I heard the catwalk is the international Lumia. So it should be available in the US and overseas. T-Mobile bound. At&t got the EOS. Verizon got the 928
Noticed the ad tonight, also noticed that Apple had an ad on the next break. It focussed heavily on photos, the tagline staed that "more pictures are taken with the iPhone every day". Until the end it looked like a Nokia ad promoting photo abilities.
Pretty sure this is the EOS. And whatever coming in september is the summary of 928 and this.
I don't know, I think this is Catwalk and people are going to be disappointed when the camera doesn't have the pureview 40+ mp that EOS will have in a few months... We'll see Tuesday!
This is Catwalk. EOS is in Nokia World, September when the GDR3 update comes with hardware support to new SoC's and screen resolutions.
Before that you can't see EOS.
I hope they're about to announce my next phone, still with the L900 until its released
Instagram!!!!!
Not to burst the 41mp bubble but the reason for the raised lens (bump) could be due to the phone being made with a slimmer profile however keeping the image stabiliser mechanism would mean the thickness couldn't of been reduced around the camera. Also the removal of wireless charging plate has helped slim it down also.
I do think there will be an increase in megapixels....just not 41mp.
please DON'T let this be that UGLY Catwalk prototype we saw last month! :( if they shift too much form the design of the 920...it's gonna make a lot of us very unhappy.I'm about to get the 920, but waiting to see if my fears come true.
You people hate the camera bump? I'm just happy it'll be thin very thin (apparently 8.4 mm). But it seems everyone is excited for the 41 MP preview. Imagine that bump.
agreed, everyone seems to be caught up in the illusion of the huge bump, but its not that big, it just looks bigger because of the thickness of the phone (i would say 30% thinner than 920)
the hump is fine, get over it - you know you want good phoots, so thats why you want the hump.
Better than the eyes can see? Well that isn't 8 mega pixels.. Camera must be significantly better than 920, yet disappointingly no xenon flash.
Doesn't the human eye have around 324ish megapixels??!!
could the thing that the article saying has writing on the other side of the lens actually be another flash and not writing.
must be telling low light photos - which captures brighter images that our eyes cant see.
I hope for 4,8" slim with 41mp camera!!!
I hope Nokia gives these away for free to everyone with a wp7 device. If only.
Did someone drop you as a child?
So how is being an asshole online working for you? Get you lots of virtual friends/confidence? At least there is some merit to my comment as phones have been given away in the past.
Looks like the same Dual LED on the Nokia N97
http://www.cameraphonesplaza.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nokia-n97-camera-2.jpg
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE T-mobile exclusive
That's pretty selfish don't you think? Besides, "exclusivity" is just an idiotic thing Nokia shouldn't even do in the first place.
Not really considering every carrier has their own exclusive device at the moment. I agree it shouldn't exist but I hate seeing people run off to another carrier just for the phone I feel like T-mobile getting an exlclusive should help bring some people back.
Carrier exclusivity is an American thing. The rest of the World doesn't do that. So this phone would never be "exclusive" to an American carrier. Still, T-Mobile doesn't seem that concerned in bringing flagships to their portfolio. They just got the "521" and sent the 821 down the drain.
He obviously meant tmob exclusive in the US. Perhaps you'd like to give att and Verizon another incentive to promote Nokia? When you enter a market, you have to understand how it works to be successful. Unfortunately, this is the way to enter the American market if you want carrier support. You don't think nokia would want to put their beautiful 920 on every carrier if the carriers would wholeheartedly promote it?
You misunderstood. By "exclusive" to an American carrier I meant that the phone will not be US-carrier only in the way the 928 is for Verizon (or T-Mobile US's 821 and 521). Those phones aren't sold anywhere else in the World. However, Catwalk will be available worldwide. Therefore it won't be "exclusive" to an American carrier, you can get the phone elsewhere.
I know Americans are used to get phones through contracts and financed by the carriers, but I assume you can get a normal carrier-free phone in any tech store in the US? Or don't you have phone stores in the US that sell carrier-free cellphones? o_O
Oh no I meant for the american market, I want the entire world to have Nokia's in their markets even on every carrier but for once i'd like to have an advantage as a t-mobile customer just once
We can get carrier free phones but they are expensive, and only work on GSM and you don't get the 4G speeds that your most likely already paying for.
Right, thats what I said, maybe not articulated properly. He meant exclusive to tmobile in the US market. Just like the 920 was exclusive to ATT in the US market. These exclusivities dont apply anywhere else in the world unless theyre off numbers like you mentioned.
You mean 810?
Yes that.
32gb please
Looks like that ugly design we saw a little while back..
Sadly QFT :(
Ok, really excited for Tuesday now!
Awe yeah baby!!!
Its not at all about people switching from the 920 to this. Ots about a strong 3rd option for customers whose contracts are up.
Exactly! I get annoyed at people complaining about how Nokia releases too many phones. It's not like with Apple where you've expected to upgrade whenever a new one comes out. You just take the one that is right at the time, and stop regretting your purchase whenever a new one comes out.
I saw this Ad, wondered how long it would take to reported on here, under 90 mins!
Is this EOS??
Can't wait to see what Nokia has between their hands nowt. I hope it's good.
Can't get enough of complainers. First people complain about phone being too thick, now people complain that there id a hump because the phone is slimmer. Make up your minds people.
I think people expect phone companies to read their minds and create whatever it is they are imagining at any given moment, even when what they want in design changes daily.
+1 I am surpised they kept this as Lumia. There was talk that because of the different design (not polycarbonate) that it would signal a new line. However, the Lumia name is getting some traction and if one looks at their total line from the Nokia site, the bench is quite deep. These devices fill otherwise lonely shelves in competing carrier.
Hoping this one is available soon unlocked for International sim free.
I love the sports analogy.
So why Apple is able to have superb camera, even thinner phone than Catwalk and no bump?
When did Apple get a superb camera?
Last I remember the 920 camera trumps the iPhone in almost every way.
Please let this be on T-Mobile!!
Catwalk will be for T-Mobilly, and I double check with Sam Sabri.
I sure hope it will! Have a Z10, but the camera isn't nearly as good as my 920. This Summer I'm moving to T-Mobile because of their better plans and prices, so hopefully Catwalk will come! :)
This phone isn't any better than the 920. Just take the 920 with you to T-Mobile. If you need AWS 3G in your area flash the ROM to enable it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097815&highlight=aws+3g
41 megapixel sensor from 808 obviously
Well, since apparently the design of the Catwalk is confirmed...I can now that that's one ugly phone. The design doesn't help and the aluminium just makes it worse and cheap-looking. In that sence, it will be more in line with the S4 actually.
Oh well. Luckily we have the beautiful L920 still.
Also...the inclusion of the dual LED flash leads me to believe that the 928 flash was just a gimmick to make the 928 different and not really an improvement over the 920's flash.
So I dare predict no one, or very few people will switch from a 920 to this Catwalk. This seems more like a niche phone for people who need 41MP to make a picture look good =P lol
One catwalk for me, please!
LOL!
Who says it has a 41mp sensor?
The bulbous camera seems to point to that. However, IF the camera doesn't bring the 41MP...well, that just makes it even worse. 'cause the bulbous shape of the camera turns out to be completely useless. So it's not even usefully ugly.
Its not made for people with 920s, its for people who couldn't get a 920 due to exclusivity. Nokia is filling gaps halfway through the yearly cycle and [seemingly] giving a 920 alternative to others, with the required respective bands; the point is to be in as many hands as possible, right? If tmob gets it, and its ugly, I'll just unlock a 920 and deal with the 4g to 2g switch off in my city. But I seriously doubt it will be ugly. Nokia has put out nothing but beautiful devices and you can barely see the device in this video. The leak may have been a prototype. I'll withhold judgment until Tuesday.
By "exclusivity" I assume you live in the USA, correct?
'cause that "exclusivity" thing is only done in the USA. The rest of the World has the 920. And when not in carriers, they're available at normal Nokia or tech stores. So no one gets Catwalk because they couldn't get the 920. And I have a hard time believing that you can't buy a 920 in the USA outside the carriers? Although, I am aware Americans are used to only buy the phones through contracts with carriers and not at full price like we do in Europe.
Anyway, this will not be a USA-exclusive phone like the 928. That's why it's being launched in the UK and not in the US. If any american operator will get this phone, that remains to be seem, obviously. I'm in Europe so I won't go too much into the US situation since you seem work differently when it comes to the way phones are sold and I don't have any experience on that.
However, as for the design, the ones that shows in the video, namely the camera bulb pretty much matches the "concept" images leakes. Hence my judgement. I can revise it but I have little hope it actually looks better. I thought the 928 would look better than the 920 and, to me, it looks awful.
Sorry, should have stated I was talking about the US mainly (while there are a handful of countries that have this sort of limitation outside of the US). Even though WP numbers aren't huge here, it's considered a major market that needs to be served; if it wasn't important, Nokia would never have made the 928. There seems to be a lot of assumption on your part about the US market, so let me clear some things up (not in an offensive way).
When you say "no one gets Catwalk because they couldn't get the 920," I'd have to say you're skipping a few decently sized markets (US, Canada, China, even UK for a few months). And about buying a 920 outright, I can get them dirt cheap actually, but I can't get them to work on any network aside from ATT (until 3 days ago, and only on one other carrier). ATT made it damn near impossible to unlock a US 920; check the forums here if you don't believe me. Now that a 920 can be unlocked and used on Tmobile, it doesn’t have the proper bands for data, so you have to be in a city where they have completed their refarm to utilize the ATT 3G and 4G bands, lest you be stuck with 2G speeds. And even though I am in one of the cities with the refarm, coverage is still spotty; the 2G and 4G switch off randomly on my friend's 920 (unlocked 2 days ago), depending on the part of the city. And even if I were to be ok with all of this, the catwalk is about to be announced, so why wouldn’t I wait a few extra days to see how this thing turns out? I live in a country where all 4 major wireless carriers utilize different bands for data (2 of which use bands almost no one else in the world uses for some God awful reason, even for voice). I actually buy all of my phones outright, which is why I’m on tmobile (they have embraced a more European style with no contracts and byod or financing devices without interest). Actually, even people on contracts often buy phones outright when they aren't eligible for an upgrade, either through the carrier or, more likely, craigslist.
I never claimed this would be a US exclusive, but there was a comment saying this may be exclusive to one carrier in the US; obviously those rules don't apply throughout the world. We live in two different worlds (tech wise anyway), and honestly I like the Euro method more (again, tech), but I can't change how my country's wireless industry works. As a result, I resort to waiting for news about anything coming to my carrier.
A fair point on the concept, but I guess my way is to wait till it is actually shown off, mainly because I want it to look good and have lots of hope, as this will more than likely be my next phone. I agree that the concept looked meh, but I sincerely hope it has changed.
Jesus Christ, that is messed up. Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea, I thought the USA worked actually better in the phone industry given how easily and cheap you can get an iPhone there (an iPhone here costs you between 800€ up to 1500€. That's always over 1000 dollars).
By the way, don't get me wrong, we do have contracts in Europe. But they're not mandatory and seldom are they any good. Actually it's more expensive to buy a phone through a contract here 'cause in the long run you will end up paying more than the retail price of the phone without contract. So there's another reason why we don't buy them that way. Also, locking phones etc has been prohibited by the trade laws of the European Union (that's why my L920 has the software branding from T-Mobile Deutschland - I chose it on purpose because of the dark grey tile accent - but I have a Vodafone Portugal sim card and didn't had to unlock anything as the phones come unlocked).
But I seriously thought that the US had a better coverage! I mean...I live in a country that only isn't bankrupt in the official papers and we don't even have 2G networks anymore. Only 3G and 4G.
(Ok, we also have a ratio of 2 cellphones per inhabitant...which isn't that normal either)
I do understand better the grief you people go through regarding phones now. That's a seriously messed up system. Are consumers even OK with that? Or do people simply don't care?
Well, Tuesday is tomorrow (it's 3:51GMT now and the announcement is in England) so lets see what happens regarding the phone. I have the feeling the design hasn't radically changed. Specially in regards to the camera hump.
Ya tech, I believe, is cheaper here than anywhere else in the world. I got iPhones for my mother and sister pretty cheap (except the full price iPhone 5 on tmobile, expensive). The 920 is only $450 from att. I do hate locks, and we have way less of a choice here. I wish we had laws against locking and make the carriers have unified cell phone bands; that way, if I go through the trouble, I can get the phone I want. The coverage is fine, but we are more spread out (rural areas) and tmobile is the smallest of the major 4; even if they have coverage in the area, they cannot utilize their own coverage on a competitor's bands, which the 920 requires. I think most people are used to it and just don't know any different. The ones that do care can't really do much about it.
Thank you for reminding me that Tuesday is almost here in London, its Sunday night here. Very excited! I don't really mind the camera hump as long as it doesn't detract from any sort of design or get in the way. I guess we'll see.
You can flash a different ROM to the ATT 920 to enable AWS band to use on T-Mobile.
It's 100% safe as you're flashing it with the official Nokia tool and using official Nokia ROMs.
If the phone being revealed tomorrow is the same as the one leaked in April, the 920 is still the better phone, just thicker and heavier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097815&highlight=aws+3g
Thanks for the link, very informative thread. I wish they would continue posting though. I think there is still some doubt on the process, but it seems one person at the end went through quite a bit of flashing and did get it to work on an ATT (non-dev) phone. Will hold on to the link and pass it on to a friend too. Thanks!
Hi, the flash on the L928 is not gimmick. Check out this article: http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-928-picture-sample-shows-the-ability-...
I wish the phone revealed was EOS
I think the catwalk might be a 41mp variant of the 920, but aluminium and slimmer. The eos is the catwalk with better specs.
I guess that camera bump is confirmed
OMG the ugly bump is real :-(
Hahahaha yea oh well. As long as it's skinny everywhere else
Bump is okay if wireless charging shell hides it .
Bump is ok if the rest is sexy - and by that I mean I hope it will not look like the fugly leak from a couple of weeks back! Shudder...
Doesn't look as big compared to the leaked images imo
41 megapixels is no laughing matter on a phone. I will wait to see what the phone looks like. Based on the cyan Lumia 920, I would expect something nice from Nokia.
No Xenon flash for this one?
Yeah, I would think a Lumia with a 41mp sensor would have a Xenon flash.. Not sure if this is the big one.. Its most likely a 9xx counterpart.. We're probably going to have to wait for "Eos" before we see Nokia seriously innovative again.
Video Link http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ev9rdaDK-YQ&feature=player_embedded&deskt...
Can't help but feel really "meh" here. If rumors are true, then it's just a reskinned 920. If Nokia wants to experiment with body design, go right ahead. But this phone isn't coming with a major hardware or software upgrade. There's no reason to have a launch event for a mid mid-cycle phone.
There's no reason for this or the 928 to exist at all.
The 928 exists because of Verizon.
928 should have existed in november 2012 though, not now when the 930/940/whatever will be out this november.
Well, Nokia isn't in a position yet to call the shots with US carriers. US carriers want exclusivity from Nokia, and Nokia couldn't release the 920 to all carriers, due to carriers exclusive needs for a company that isn't very strong in the US and their supply shortages. The 920 for AT&T was a 6-month exclusive, and Verizon obviously didn't want a 920 look-alike, a Nokia had to comply if they wanted any sort of revenue from Verizon.
In short, it's not Nokia's fault.
Nokia also needs financial help with marketing and promotion. Only way to get that is to offer an exclusive.
This
Well, Verizon likely paid/struck a deal with Nokia to have a flagship phone that wasn't the exact same one on AT&T, which is why the 928 exists.
What are you talking about? Where have you been the past 2.5 years?
Unbelievable. The phone is not released yet, and somehow apparently random commenters know all the specs. /s
For all we know, this phone could have 200mp camera. Yes, 200.
Lol!
Not enough, it needs to be over 9000.
LOL
lol, not likely dude. The sensor would be massive (probably as bigger than your face if it had a 200mp sensor). But sadly, this is not the EOS. Words cannot describe how disappointed I am that I probably won't be replacing my flawed 808 till later this year.
Flawed because it doesn't run WP8?
Yes and no. Flawed because Belle does not give me that user experience I get from other OS's on the market. Give me Windows Phone...or anything, I would switch OS's in a heartbeart away from Belle. This phone also plagues me with constant resets (I think everytime I switch from a 2G/3G network) (I live here in the States -on the outskirts of San Antonio, and this happens at least 4 or 5x's a day if I use it as my daily driver phone). I get a weak 3G connection whenever I go into the city (which is pretty much everyday). It would be cool to have HSDPA or LTE like I do on my Titan.
This phone was meant for consumers in other parts of the world other than in the States I think...even though buying an unlocked version of the phone.
I love the camera, don't get me wrong. Obviously, the camera was the sole purpose of getting this phone, as I am a photographer. And basically the camera is the only thing that is keeping me from upgrading to any other Nokia model atm. If the EOS is coming, I will wait for it.
That lens look big..or is just me
Looks big to me too, might be a better lens than 920.
Look at the lens...it's sticking out from the phone. Guys, I think we are in for something awesome! ;D
Yes it looks like the lense is bigger than whats on the 920/928 but we will just have to wait, im sure nokia will tease a bit more before Tuesday.
Sounds like a very masculine phone. Now us boys can compare how big our lenses are and how much they "stick out" relative to other, puny phones with obvious lens envy. They'll be crying "But what about shrinkage!". Now phones will be labeled "shower" or "grower".
That's pretty funny.
I know you are trying to be funny, but fyi: it's not working, your'e not funny at all. Do something else in your life, standup is not your thing.
Maybe psychology?
I thought he was funny, I think when you said "your'e not funny at all." you were speaking for yourself and not for others.
I'm all for Nokia flooding the market, but this is getting harder and harder to plan purchases. It seems like next month they'll have something even better (Eos?). I wish they would consolidate all their releases kinda like, just release a plethora of phones of all price ranges at once and let consumers enjoy them for a year before having to salivate again, lol.
That looks like a rather large apeture though. Looking at my 900 comparing the size of the dual led flash and the opening, they look almost the same size, the camera opening being a tiny bit wider than the flash, but here it looks twice the size. It's like they're taking the 720 camera, throwing OIS at it, then maybe using the 808's tech as well?
No, this is exactly what they need to do... Constant news headlines. Stay in the public mind... Cheap, beautiful, advanced, and moving forward. Same strategy as Samsung.
At this point, just pick a device that fits your needs. So far I'm very impressed with all these devices. I don't think you can go wrong with any of these devices. I'm 99.9% sure all these Lumia WP8 devices will be upgradeable to any new OS updates....Blue or GDR.2
Exactly!
I respectfully disagree with you because I think its good to keep WP in the spotlight year round.. Its good for awareness. Just imagine how great it would be if the other two put forth as much effort as Nokia.. We'd probably be sitting at 10% market share as we speak, and I guarantee you Instagram would be on board already..
I don't want to get too excited becuase I might get disappointed being on T-Mobile.
+ 1
Please be T-Mobile so I can retire my Trophy!
I doubt screen will be larger than the L920 or L928, if so still cuddling my ATIV S on T-Mobile.
ATIV S on T-Mobile? I'm running a Rogers 920 pentaband and it runs perfect. On your ATIV S do you only get 2G/Edge? I looked on eBay a lot and all I seen was att capable phones. Which will work on T-Mobile but you get slow internet.
I'm kinda leaning in this same direction if this turns out to be a big T-Mo tease.
The Canadian T899M ATIV S is 100% compatible with T-Mobile's 3G and 4G LTE networks. It has pentaband 3G including AWS and has LTE band 4 whichis what T-Mobile uses for LTE.
It's falsely advertised on eBay as being compatible with AT&T. AT&T requires both LTE band 4 and 17 and the vast majority (if not all) of their LTE network runs on band 17.
I appreciate the info. I sent a offer to one one on eBay. I didn't realize the ATIV S was pentaband like my Rogers 920. I did notice now there's 2 ATIV S models. Thanks again.
Got my ATIV S from gsmnation.com new and have access to 3G & 4G on T-Mobile. However I have yet to get the mobile hotspot to work. But overall its sweet.
Vodafone UK have already announced they will be at the event and that they will be selling this device after its announcement.
Do you have a source?? Thanks
Vodfone actually made the announcement on one of the social networks, twitter im thinking. I don't have the info handy right now though, but they did confirm.
Ohh ok.. I'll check it out.
I think mynokiablog or wmpoweruser had an article about this before couple of days.
UK? Why does the UK always get the latest Nokia goodness?
Ahem! Lumia 900? And what did AT&T do with it?
I think Nokia might have realised that launching new landmark phones in their weakest market is a fail.
Trophy? That's on Verizon, are jumping on over to the T-Mobile ship?
T-mobile has disappointed me so many times, I even call to complain about the midrange phone bull. I switches to ATT just to get the 920.
Tmobile sucks, they're just showing lame iPhone 5 commercials.
Who doesn't show lame iPhone commercials? Apparently people still want it even though it is much if the same and an "ok" phone in my opinion. I think the iPhone alone brought idk how many customers back to T-Mobile and T-Mobile sort of needs that...
I hope this goes to T-Mobile for you.. I'm on at&T, and im sick of the goods not being spread out more.. Besides, if this goes to TM I can only dream about what at&T will get next.. So, yes im still a selfish little bitch.. Lol!
I agree...
Argh, is anyone else frustrated by the camera bump? You can't lay it flat!
assuming that you lay it down on a flat surface, the lense wouldn't be touched.
I agree.....
I'm not happy about the bump either. It detracts from a clean look, IMHO.
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