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Microsoft will announce the Lumia 650 on February 1 with little fanfare

The Microsoft Lumia 650 is finally getting its official announcement. Windows Central has been following new on the business-orientated phone for a few months now noting that it is likely the last Lumia for the year.

Multiple sources have confirmed that Monday, February 1 Microsoft will reveal details about the device, including pricing and availability, through their official blog. The news is somewhat expected as the phone is not exactly worthy of a press event and Microsoft is likely going to keep their presence at Mobile World Congress low-key.

Lumia 650 Specifications (unofficial)

  • Windows 10 Mobile
  • Colors: Matte White or Matte Black
  • 5-inch 720p display
  • Snapdragon 210 or 212 processor
  • 1GB of RAM
  • 8GB of storage with micro SD expansion
  • 5MP front-facing camera; 8MP rear with LED flash
  • No wireless charging (could change)

Windows Central had commissioned some unofficial renders of the phone to be made by @PhoneDesigner and you can see the gallery below.

Lumia 750 and Lumia 850? Unlikely

Speaking of Mobile World Congress, there have been reports of a 'Lumia 750' or 'Lumia 850' also being announced at that event. We are still sticking to our claim that both of those phones were cancelled back in July of 2015 and we have seen no concrete evidence of that having changed. In fact, if those phones were coming it would seem to make more sense to hold off on the Lumia 650 announcement for a few weeks and announce all the devices at once at Mobile World Congress. That, however, is not what is happening.

Some sites have reported on a device labelled RM-1182 as being certified in various countries like China and Indonesia. The Lumia 850 was RM-1180 before being cancelled, and it is unclear exactly what RM-1182 is at this time. Having said that, none of our sources knows of an RM-1182, and we have heard multiple times that the Lumia 650 is the last Lumia. Instead, Microsoft will be focusing on the flagship 'Panos phone', which is expected to be part of the Surface line later this fall. RM-1182 could be a regional variant of a new mid-range phone, but that is still unconfirmed.

Microsoft so far has not announced plans for Mobile World Congress, but Windows Central will be there to cover the event including any other Windows Phone announcement from Microsoft partners.

No word on pricing and availability of the Lumia 650. Microsoft is likely to clear that up on February 1.

Daniel Rubino
Daniel Rubino

Daniel Rubino is the Executive Editor of Windows Central, head reviewer, podcast co-host, and analyst. He has been covering Microsoft here since 2007, back when this site was called WMExperts (and later Windows Phone Central). His interests include Windows, Microsoft Surface, laptops, next-gen computing, and arguing with people on the internet.

357 Comments
  • Seems great phone! Specs are okay. :)
  • Ok?? Whats the difference between this and 550??
  • Yeah... With sd210 I'd say msft must be out of its mind.
  • I think Microsoft feels that using anything other than snapdragon 2xx will cause another ice age
  • It should have been foreseen when they put the S400 into Lumia 830, which they claimed to be an 'affordable flagship' phone... If S400 was what they think the 'affordable' flagships deserve, then the S200s being for 'budget' midrange phones makes total sense. If only there were S100s for the 'dirt cheap' low-ends... LOL
  • Lol
  • S200 series chips. The Honda Civics of the Microsoft Corporation's cellphone world.
  • Microsoft doesn't know anything about 'affordable' flagships or midrangers. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Why windows central app from android when you have lumia 950 xl???
  • he edited his signature just to boost how stupid he  was 
  • Why can Microsoft put 16gb on the phone and 2gb RAM? I'm sick of that 8gb thing
  • It's not like you can't use the SD card for everything on windows 10. Also it's cheaper for us too.
  • I agree. MS should match the specs of the budget Lumias with the $650 iPhones to show how Apple is completely overpriced garbage.
  • Better cameras,front speaker
  • Difference is 650 not 550, & 212 is better all round than the 210,what I've read its nearly on par with with sd400
  • 640 even better
  • Especially for only $39 in the U.S.
  • Goodbye lumia... Just goodbye...
  • Agree. Lumia 520 had similar specifications but it sold very well. If the 650 comes out with the design that is shown in the renders, I am sure it will also be a hit, only if it is priced like the L520. Lumia 650 is an upgrde to Lumia 520. I think we should not go by the model numbers. Looking forward to add this to my collection of phones.
  • Fanboys says this on almost every wp that is announced.
  • It's just Im looking phones differendly :) I don't need specs almost like in PC. All I care that phone works smoothly and battery life is good. Just my opinion.
  • + I said "okay" :D
  • I am the EXACT same way.
  • Better stick with a 640 instead of this.
  • Right better to stick with L640
  • To tell you the truth, i own a 950xl, but a shity battery tells me the same. Stick with the 640. Is something abouth that phone that makes it's battery being 3 times better then mine....
  • Close Edge with the task switcher. Amazing improvement in battery life.
  • Low resolution and low RAM is key to battery life of 640...its the one of the best battery efficient device in the market across all OS...its a awesome phone , tried g2 for few days will buy 640 again
  • That be the processor also only a couple of months ago the l640 was being dropped by MS they have already done with the l830 haven't they.
  • Except for the design and maybe camera.
  • 640>620>650>635 The numbering system always made sense on Lumia
  • im glad see to your list, 620 better than 650 and 635.but it make no sence,i dont think 620 (2013 model) beats 2015 model Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • 625 has tremendous spec
  • Guys chill. Benchmark wise S2xx on this is almost same as the one on NL640, just cheaper. Don't go blindly by snapdragon naming convention - it doesn't give the full picture.
  • --Almost-- the same? Be better or GTFO!
  • Damn straight.
    It's an upgrade to a phone model, it better be better. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • In term of processing power? They do in similar level in core type only (the same Cortex A7). Although the clock is different (up to 1.1GHz for 210 and up to 1.6GHz for 400). Note that this clock speed is an 'up to' value. According to the spec, L640 has SD 400 clocked at 1.2GHz and L650 has SD 210 clocked at 1.1GHz. On GPU side, they are quite similar (Adreno 304 for 210 and 305 for 400). Both have LTE and NFC support. So... In regard of 210 vs 400 (for the sake of 640 vs 650 debate)... Yeah... Almost the same.
  • l650 Its SD 212 & (Adreno 305 poss 306
  • The specs listed are exactly same as 540. This doesn't even fit into 5xx series (forget 6xx) as 550 should be an upgrade to 540. I wonder what is Microsoft upto.  :(
  • Looks like its back to the old strategy of releasing nearly the same phone with different model numbers as placeholders. It could be Microsoft's version of cell phone lottery. Release something, anything left in the pipeline and see if it hits big like the Lumia 520 did in back in 2013.
  • I dont understand how this is an upgrade to L640. Spec wise
  • its upgrade for who owns a phone with even lower specs, not for the owners of l640   although this is nicer looking vs 640
  • It's not supposed to be unless you change phones every 10 months
  • With a number being 50 larger than 40 it's kind of acknowledged there should be a spec jump with its bigger number. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Are we sure that it's "supposed to be" an upgrade to the 640? Name aside, has anyone from MS or the trades confirmed that 640 owners should consider the 650? Me thinks this is much ado about nothing.
  • Not a big surprise... Need more ram and inbuilt storage...
  • It's the same as the L640.
  • It's actually worse than the 640. "720p display" 640 has 1080p (or at least 'HD720 capable of FullHD 1080p') "Snapdragon 200/212" while 640 has Snapdragon 400. It seems to be a complete downgrade.
  • Lumia 640 is a 720p panel Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • 640 1080p?
  • You're name....are you trolling or is it legit?
  • I care about is camera lens and processor
  • Alcatel one touch phone has double of both for $139
  • As long as your willing to give up build quality in the Alcatel.
  • I m not happy with specs...
  • What !! 640 xl is better than 650 !!
  • S dude
  • Not everyone wants a big phone though...
  • 640 Xl is the best phone...640xl FTW
  • I don't know, compared to the old 1520 on the used market, I'm rethinking the 640XL.
  • Meh, I want the 'Panos phone'
  • I truly hope it is not a disappointment.
  • That's my biggest fear on this subject as well. People seems to expect a pocket sized pc, that can do all the things a pc can.
  • Designing a phone is not like making a sandwich. You can't just order them to throw something in it and expect it to work good. It takes a lot of designing , specs confirmation, battery, and adding all the optimisation. Even a dirt cheap one needs 2-3 months at least. A potential surface phone would take 8 months
  • Doesn't matter much about hardware at this point. Unless they make people "love" the OS and software, fretting over the phone is pointless.
  • I don't get it. Should I be waiting for a 850 that could replace my 820, or is 650 my only hope for a better w10 phone?
  • It's looking like there'll only be three x50 series phones; the flagship 950 (and the XL), the business/'mid-range' 650 and the budget 550. Based on what is known, yeah, there is a good chance there won't be a 850 - but Microsoft have not made their plans public, after all, so who knows what may happen. I think if you're stepping up from a 820, then a 650 will still be a nice improvement, but unfortunately the chance of a direct successor in the form of an 850 are low.
  • I don't think 650 is a lot of improvement over my 820. I mean, it's only got a bigger screen and a better processor but it's not great either.
  • It's quite an upgrade if you go from 820. If you have 830 though, I suggest you stick at your 830.
  • You Say Midrange, yet, the only real difference is size, other than that they are pretty much the same.  I would expect midrange to be clearly better.
  • 650, 550, 950 or some other manufacturer. 640/XL, 735 and 830 will also receive W10M when it's time. Really depends on what you want and need :)
  • You could consider another phone maker?
  • Don't be ridiculous :P
    I could consider Android though.
  • The last lumia? really?, so will change to microsoft surface phones?
  • Surface phones are gonna be expensive like the Surface tablet. Not everyone can afford this. So, they need to continue with low and mid range Lumias.
  • @l Sam l
    Surface phone will happen, meanwhile msft will be selling out budget Lumia(s) since its motto is to push their content delivered to each and everyone.
  • Surface phone shouldn't be expensive. It must provide potential hardware and software advancement in the market to be necessarily 'expensive'.
  • IMO, Surface Phone should not be expensive. Surface Phone Pro should.
  • Maybe they'll stick to releasing the high-end Surface/L950-style phones every fall, and release low end Lumia's (5xx, 6xx, etc) every year around MWC. Just my two cents...
  • I feel like this is probably what they'll do; it makes sense to do budget, mid-range, flagship, and specialty like they've done before, they're just replacing the 1020 and 1520 with the Surface phone and dropping the 7xx and 8xx mid-ranges.
  • Maybe not Surface Phones, but it'll certainly see a rebranding.
  • Seems so, and probably lumia line will get discontinued soon, if not already in a dead end. Don't know if I should expect further upgrades and features to my 950, maybe I won't ever see it running bugless. Everything depends on if they will release all that arm chain, like arm64, arm tablets with x86 emulator... My personal feeling, lumia 950 will face a similar destiny like lumia 910
  • It's running Windows 10, it's gonna be constantly updated with new OS features and improvements until it falls behind with the rest of tech - and at the moment it's right up at the front of all the Windows phones. I think the 950 is actually relatively quite futureproof - even if it dies off as a product, it's running a universal, non device-specific OS with powerful enough hardware to run it as W10 develops and improves over the coming years.
  • The article says LAST Lumia of the YEAR
  • I doubt that, Microsoft said after the 6 october event that they where already working on next years flagship. Next year last year is this year.
  • But that doesn't mean it will have "Lumia" in it's name ;-)
  • Well, it would be a shame if there was no midrange Lumia... The 650 basically appears to be a 550 with better cameras and a slightly larger screen. I'd really like to see a replacement for the 7xx and 8xx phones.
  • Or 640 with some aluminum, better located speaker output and better front camera. I would also liked to have 750ish phone, but if MS had made it with SD210/212 like 550 and 650 (just like 830, 735, 635, 630 and 640/XL all have SD400), that would had been slightly disappointing :)
  • This one better to have wireless charging....
  • It better
  • So the 650 could just be a 640 with a lesser processor but a little classier look.
  • PANOS PHONE!!!!!! COME ON ALREADY gunna be 5 years of recycled Lumia designs before we get pPhone
  • So you want them to rush one of their most important products? Panos only took over mobile in July. Let's not kid ourselves that building a disruptive device can be done in a few months.
  • Really? A guy can't be excited about a coming (rumoured) phone without you talking down at him?
  • Sad, right?, a person can't simply express a little excitement about anything without being tormented by Daniel Rubino's comments, he always thinks he's the center of the universe
  • Brace yourself. The downvotes are coming. I was at -4.  
  • Probably because your comment seems pissy. The guy capslocked "COME ON ALREADY" which is what Dan was commenting about and also the part that you completely ignored.
  • You mean capslocking parts of a comment is not allowed? Or that 'come on already' is a bad thing to say about a phone that is rumoured to be great? What about that part warranted the kind of Daniel's reponse? Even if Daniel was responding to that part as you assume, did he have to use that tone?
  • what??  A person writes a comment, and Daniel Rubino replies, with in my opinion a completely resonable and correct respons.    So now someone is talking down to someone  or/and think they are the center of the universe for replying to a comment on their own site???    If you dont want a reply, dont comment . simple as that.
  • there is no one talking down to anyone ... what are you on about? "So you want them to rush one of their most important products?"  - a completely reasonable question  "Panos only took over mobile in July. "  this is fact, simple as that. "Let's not kid ourselves that building a disruptive device can be done in a few months" - completely correct.  There is no way you build a competitive and disruptive device on a few months.. Apple for example took several years to develop the first iPhone, and that was actually a flop with the first model (even if people don't remember it like that today) It did not sell well at all, because it was actually crap to be honest. (2G only in a already 3G world ?? and no MMS, what where they thinking..but they continued to improve) ... it took 2 -3 years until people really got interested and it could be considered a success with the iPhone 3GS that really took off in a big way Car manufacturers takes 2 - 3  years (used to take 4 - 5 years)  to develop a new car, and then it is usually not even that revolutionary compared to past models )    Microsoft need to take their time if they want to make a killer phone..and Panos need time to work.  If they release a Surface phone this year it will most likely be a disappointment.    No one is talking down to anyone, you just seem to read more into the reply then there actually was.
  • I didn't notice any down talking whereas marquis with his "5 years of.." on the other hand.
  • It's fine that you didn't detect anything. Others can, though.
  • How can this stratergy help in increasing market share? I am asking about the "Last Lumia" thing. It is gonna be expensive like the Surface Pro tablets. People in developing countries won't be able to buy this thing. Surface Pro 3 and 4 recently launched in India. Have you heard of or seen the price tag? It's very costly. The basic model of Surface Pro 3 is almost my 3 months salary and basic model of Surface Pro 4 is almost my 4 months salary. I am really interested in it but can't buy. I know, it is gonna be the same thing with "Surface Phone" or "Panos Phone" or whatever the phone will be called. So, don't you think the market needs an upgarde of Lumia 730 or Lumia 830 to close the gap between Lumia 650 and Lumia 950? Please give it a thought and let me know what you think.
  • I think they are re-thinking branding and design. Surface 4 Pro Core i7 is cost prohibitive for many. Surface 3? Different story. We may see Microsoft do the same for phone. Will have to see.
  • Msft is not Apple when it comes down to the mobile market. If this is what msft has been planning on, this half-baked strategy will cost a serious damage if it tries to beef up the cost of Surface Phone.
  • Disagree as MS will be supported by OEM.
  • Is there ever gonna be an upgrade for Lumia 730 or Lumia 830 from Microsoft, with whatever brand name they choose? I think not..They talk about developers being attracted towards Windows Store..Then please think about developing markets like India..People may not have computers at their home but they may have a ₹5000-₹15000 smartphone..
  • If this has USB-C I will replace my 640 XL.
  • It has a snapdragon 210 though. The 640 has a 400.
  • Afaik the SD210 and SD400 are not that far apart when it comes to raw power.
  • Yep, SD400 has little bit faster GPU. That's about it.
  • Why did you want to replace the best Lumia phone with this???
  • He just said so usb c
  • If that and if SD210 doesn't lag/"resuming screen" a lot.. I'd buy it..  
  • "The Last Lumia" ? like forever or just for 2016?
  • To my knowledge, there are no other Lumias on the table. That could change, of course.
  • Wow. This is a slightly disappointing spec for the 'last' Lumia. I really hope they can reinvent the phone with the Surface phone in the fall. With great specs and features.
  • I do think that perhaps selling one or two truely amazing Surface phones like Apple sells the iPhone and then support OEMs in selling at every other level might be a smart move though.
  • Mhmm, this is what I think is happening. This way, they will have phones with W10 natively with varied specs.
  • Microsoft needs a Surface kind of phone because they have no OEMs support. They can't make tons of devices to compete with Android OEMs.
  • I don't think specs are important. Windows is not android. Full Windows runs better than android in 2 gb ram. So stop asking for specs.
  • Could be that 640 will be my last Windows phone then. Zero interest in getting Surface. I can already hear faint call from the dark side<<<<<< distance - phase detection auto-focus, MS launcher and lockscreen, nice hardware and 16GB internal memory for Google updates to slowly fill :D
  • I really hope so. If Microsoft want to see other OEMs start making phones with W10M they need to stop making their own phones...
  • Doesn't really matter. They won't actually launch it before October or November if the past is any indication. It might as well be the last one of the year Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • WP is dead. This is the last nail. If surface phone doesn't 'make it' which likely it won't. I would start looking at iOS and Android to see which one you like more.  Of course MS will have to start the OS over, yet AGAIN. and, they WILL find some way to botch the Surface phone where no one will support it.  MS has one screwed up way of thinking. I have never seen such a large company be so blind and clueless. And that is coming from someone who LIKES microsoft... 
  • I'm waiting for official Windows 10 mobile update now.
  • Hey Last Lumia?? What? Last Lumia or Last Lumia by ex-Nokia?
  •             
  • No Microsoft-branded Lumia is an "ex-Nokia" phone. All the Microsoft branded Lumias were at least developed and finished under Microsoft's watch already, when not completely done under Microsoft. Just because they use old Nokia discarded designs doesn't make them "ex-Nokia" phones ;)
  • They are, non of the phones we have seen sofar are fully developed by Microsoft. Keep in mind that many phones are in development for over a year. An example is what Microsoft said after the launch of Surface Pro: "we're already working on the next 3 generations", that being Surface Pro 2, 3 and 4 back then. It's not like this work is finished within a couple of months.
  • That's actually completely wrong. Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520
  • MS probably inherited a crapload of low end SoCs already bought/ordered by Nokia. Maybe better to put them to use than dumping to a landfill. Design I think is something they could've changed pretty easily though
  • Actually it's quite the opposite. The Lumias have mostly been designed by ex-Nokia employees so they can all be called ex-Nokia phones.
  • Ooh, looking forward to February 1 now. Thanks for this. Looking forward to the comparsion reviews, and reviews in general really. Hmm, it being the last Lumia is interesting.
  • Will the 650 be released in dual sim?
  • I can't see why not.
  • Great. Cheers
  • That 'business-oriented' line would be a bit of a joke if it wasn't, heh.
  • Why didn't the Lumia 950 look like this. The phone looks more flagship than the 950 but the specs are worst than my Lumia 640xl. Not really an upgrade for anyone
  • Looks too much like an iPhone.
  • I know quite a few people still rocking their cheap x20 Lumias. For most of them this would definitely be an upgrade
  • 8Gb internal? That was a disaster on my 8XT, even with SD card. It's nowhere near sufficient. 16 should be minimum.
  • It's a beautiful phone, but it lacks power, and it lags a good price tag.
  • The price tag hasn't been announced yet. How does it lag a price tag if we don't even know what it will be?
  • There's a rumor that it will be around 170 without taxes.
  • I miss the issue with that price? I guess it's just me then.
     
  • $170 with a 200 class Snapdragon? Garbage! Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Lumia 950 should be $199 because of the beta software and non existent support of MS apps on WM10 compared to iOS/Android...
  • $199?!
  • LOL, I am amused.
  • Have you guys seen the redmi note 3? You get a sd 650 w/ 3gigs of ram and 32 gigs storage with a full hd display and a full metal body with a 13/5 mp camera combo. It has some unique features like ir blaster too. And the best part? It is also 200
  • But we'll get a lagdroid with that too :/
  • compared to android 5 ... windows 10 mobile lags a lot.... it's always resuming... resuming..... windows 10 mobile is crap at it's current state....
  • Last Lumia /('o')\
  • Man, I would buy this if it had wireless charging or USB type C :/
  • Same here, would drop my 640 XL in a heartbeat if it had either.
  • I was hoping for a mid-range because I don't see any of these devices as an upgrade from my L925. The 950s are too expensive and go beyond my needs so I don't see why I should pay that much. meh.
  • 925 was equally expensive when it came out. Both are high-end phones.
  • I got the Lumia 925 a while after its release for $370. || Plus, contiuum, IRIS scanner and the cam on the L950 are things that I don't need, so why should I pay for them? I just want a good chipset, a good battery and a good display with USB-C (or not)
  • Likely the last Lumia is the year!!!! But hopefully not there last Microsoft mobile of the year. #surfacephone
  • This is not better than Lumia 640. The CPU is even worse
  • So what differentiates this from Lumia 550 (if the specs are true)? This will create a confusion similar to Lumia 530-535-540.  
  • Better cameras, design language, and better processor, and of course, it is bigger. I somehow forgot to include the front facing speaker in that too!
  • Why aren't they selling phones in more colours? Just black and white.
  • Same reason they aren't doing a million Lumia variants for W10M. They want to focus their sales on specific products.
  • We need orange,yellow and cyan back...
  • Green too!
  • They did some research and they found out that dogs don't care.
  • Same little fanfare with the announcement and launch of the 550, 950/xl. What a surprisingly mind blowing way announce a new device for a company this size?
  • I feel like they have a reason for this. By the way, this is the same company that made a quiet announcement on their blog that you can buy the 550 in the US Microsoft store. Maybe they want to save the momentum for the Panos' phone.
  • Pretty much, the way I see it, they are hanging low, instead of building hype that will fade before they can act on it, they are going to quietly keep building the w10m os until the panos phone is ready then try and come in with a bang and hopefully build on the hype that creates.
  • by the time Panos godlike phone comes to market, most loyal fans from day-1 would have made their decision to abandon the platform. As a day-1 (wp7-htc hd7) adopter, I've seen my interest wane and I'm now 80% leaning towards virus /spam laden Android because i no longer see a value proposition or platform longevity plans from Microsoft. I've been on this platform since the days of htc excalibur. Time to move forward.
  • Yea me too man. Seeing how even the ads of those 100 dollar phones are better than the l 950/ xl I hate myself for staying with windows.
  • It's a phone OS, man.
  • ...Why does it matter to you how much they advertised the 950, they said, clearly from the beginning, it's a fan phone, it wasnt intended to be a big release with lots of advertising, they released it so that the fans had something they could get until they finish the panos phone, isn't it obvious ms isn't proud of the 950, it's not their phone.
  • The 650 doesn't deserve any fanfare.
  • The major difference between the 640 and 650 is the esthetics which look quite good actually and coming with Windows 10 installed.  Microsoft would like IT departments to use this as the business phone for company supplied phones. IT departments don't want to have to upgrade everybody with a new OS that is coming shortly. It appears that all the x5x phones are all supplied with Windows 10 installed.
  • The SOC in the 650 is of a newer generation, and supports a number of features the older SOC in the 640 does not. I expect that performance will be close enough as to be identical in daily use.
  • This.    
  • I agree, and I really hope this is the case.
  • Yes that's the problem. The performance will be identical to the older generation instead of better
  • Microsoft up to its old tricks again releasing a low end Windows Phone in the Lumia 650. This partly what's wrong with Windows as a mobile platform which is a joke against iOS and Android. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • The fact that you think the model number doesn't match the hardware is somehow what's wrong with the software? You're not making any sense.
  • These particular models are midrange models, always have been, this is Microsoft all over. No wonder they're losing to iOS and Android. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Because android is just all high end phones?
  • Android is not all low end phones though. You cannot even buy a midrange phone and their flagship leaves much to be desired. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Actually, the amount of low-end phones per high-end phones on Android is much higher than on the Windows-side of the market. So please stop bringing up that argument. I suggest you take a look at a list of ALL Android devices released in 2015. For Android, you often see only the big brands, but there are plenty of OEMs that flood the market with a shitload of low-end, heck, ultra-low-end Android devices. This is just much more covered up by the total amount. But the ratio is much worse on Android.
  • Really are you smoking. Android has massive variety in ALL price points with devices having high end specs at low end prices. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Thanks for the insight, Bob Ross
  • Classic :-D
  • This is a beautiful phone. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Snapdragon 2xx ..simply unacceptable... Microsoft is shoving crappy processors to its costumers... People need to stop buying them so that they change it ..
  • Snap210 for 180$.
    Yes, it is a good candidate for the "last Lumia" :(
  • Snapdraon 210 is newer than Snapdragon 400 :)
  • I have always wondered about that. Is the 210 faster than the previous generation 4x0 series?
  • Not really. It's gpu is worse (adreno 304) than what is in the 640 for instance. It does have a newer version of bluetooth though lol.
  • And yet so is the 410/11/12/15 or what other variant of the 400 series exists. No excuse as to why they would've gone with a lower end chip set. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • I hope if there is a 750.. It should be exact Lumia 720 and changes should be its RAM, battery life ,processor , Camera and dual or triple LED flash , little longer screen size and windows hello. But a UniBody. This is what I truly desire!!! I hope Microsoft holds a contest or survey for it and gives a free to their favourite specs.
  • I would like the same but afraid ms is going to Let us down..i had a 720 and 735 now hoping for a 750
  • Exactly my thoughts. I own a 720 which is like a damaged horse now. Barely making it through. Need a good replacement. 950 is out of my budget and the 550,650 are low ends. Need a 720 type mid ranger. 640 doesn't appeal to me design wise :\
  • I'm gonna say, this looks very very low-end, it's not that this seems to be bad, but the specs are not that future proof, are more like "a year proof" or something. I know this isn't a specs race (raw power it's not all), but this seems more like a sidegrade than a upgrade in the same line (the Lumia 550 it's a solid upgrade from the Lumia 535, but the Lumia 650 are on par with the Lumia 640 in some areas, just a little nicer hardware here and there, but nothing amazing). It's like, if I wanna continue with MS and I have now a low/mid end and I want to upgrade, my only choice it's the expensive Lumia 950/950 XL, and that it's just too much for many many people. On the other side, some OEMs have announce some devices, but to be honest, not many of them are big names internationally and many consumers just buy big names devices, even WP fans just wants to stick with MS and nothing more (bad support from the OEMs, or not even caring anymore). I know it's nice a shift in paradigm and how many devices you sell, but in raw specs and what the devices can do, the Lumia 550 and 650 are overall the same device with other face.
  • Nice design.
  • Nokia Android will be my next then. Nokia design and best of MS services & apps.
  • All the best
  • Yup. Me too waiting to see what Nokia has up their sleeves.
  • Lol, I'm done with Windows
  • 650 sent you over the edge?
  • Amen
  • Business phone? With SD210? No continuum? What is Microsoft smoking over there in Redmond?
  • Pot? :p
  • I agree, they've been addicted to the high and aren't getting anything done. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Businesses can't have high and low end? Posted via the Note 4/Nexus 7 (2013)/Lumia 1020/Lumia 2520
  • I don't understand a second lumia with also a sd210... Come with a real mid range phone... Not phone with almost the same specs except for the 950 (xl) offcourse
  • Thick and ugly bezels. SD2xx cpu is also bad.
  • yawn ...  
  • I would be very happy to use this if it will support Sprint in the United States.
  • Yuck, this thing is such a bare-minimum budget device. This is more of a 400- or 500-series device.
  • So close yet so far. If it only had a Snapdragon 6xx, 2gb of ram, 16gigs of storage, a 13mp rear camera with image stablization, a 1080 screen res, and was 5.5"
  • Sounds like HP falcon ;)
  • Microsoft ruined the Lumia line
  •     This looks seriously underwhelming. 
    Tmobile's Alcatel onetouch XL is 2GIGS of ram 16GB space, with 5.5 screen size. This one is 1GIG Ram with 8gigs and 5 inches. And I am going to assume theyre both going to be 129.99 So I'm going to get the alcatell one.  Nevermind the look
  • Other OEMs will take the midrange and budget lead .... MS will focus on Panos Phone.. Good plan of action... Hope it works...
  • Another re-start with new pre-beta OS and lesser chip while hoping that some cheapo oems would take the lead of old deprecated platform. Sounds like a plan. Mastermind plan.
  • You have better plans ha?.. ;)
  • if the final version will look like the black rendered, ill buy it just for the lock. sooo sexy. it's much better looking than the black coated metal from form the 930
  • I don't understand this,Why MS try to sale low-rage phones.Im using 640Xl with snapdragon 400 and 1GB ram but it's really fast bc of w10os but why they make phones with s200??Why??They are android phones out there with better specs and lower price.They are crap but why someone will buy this???
  • Yaaawnnn...
  • Yaaawnnn...???
  • I hope you are only speaking for yourself.
  • the lumai 640 Is mid ranged. This phone would be considered low end. How is it evn close to an upgrade? the CPU and battery are ****!
  • I think it's a smart move if playing on the surface branding. Example...
    Surface E-1 entry 5"
    Surface M-1 high end 5"
    Surface XL-1 high end phablet
    Short sweet simple and the phones can numerically increase logically with each iteration. Let OEMs fill the gap in features and pricing with their own phones and branding.. Works for google and apple makes it with a similar hardware scheme. Just my 2 cents....
  • Noo.. 2 phones are more than enough... Otherwise it will ruin the surface brand if something goes wrong... They should start with one phone.. Surface Phone.. And bundle it with Surface Pros...
  • We are on the same page for sure.. I just feel that in Microsoft is dropping the Lumia line then a entry level phone needs to be available for emerging markets and for people that feel spending $800USD (just guessing) is crazy. High end users will want a 5" and 6" screens respectively.
  • What exactly is "business oriented"?
  • Bing it ;)
  • That can be purchased in bulk, doesn't impact the bottom line, integrates with their back end + current infastructure with minimal hassle and is low maintainence. Yet provides the security and enterprise features that is needed in this modern era of mobility.  
  • ^ This.   Continuum really isn't needed by 95% of corp types. The company just needs a way to get ahold of them. Phone, text, email.  Maybe some basic Word, Excel and PowerPoint work in a pinch. If this phone is $100 to $150 and a company needed 50 phones, it would save them $25,000 over using iPhones. Companies care about that kind of outlay.
  • The phone offer accidentally leaked yesterday on one of the Czech Rep. retailers site. If the price is right it should cost around 200 bucks. Also they advertise it with Snapdragon 210, which is a bad news I guess...
  • Can we just all decide to agree that if the Surface Phone does NOT run full windows, but IS full of highest-end hardware, then we will still be happy and rave about the phone!? I want full Windows 10 on a phone too, but it might not come this year...and that is OK with me! I don't want the achievement of a Surface Phone to be dissed because it's not full 10! Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot!
  • No we can't cause there'll be no real benefit if it won't be x86 capable. ARM is not an option for Surface Phone.
  • What's the point of an 8GB phone? 16GB should be the minimum... and even that is small.
  • Are you new to Windows Phone? As far as I can remember, all of the releases last year all have 8gb, aside from the flagships of course.
  • You know that is awful and doesn't excuse them. 16 should be the minimum. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • At least you can install apps to MicroSD on Windows phone, unlike other OS.
  • MicroSD expansion makes up for it. Sell cheap with a small SSD and let people expand through SD based on their preferences.
  • Except it kind of does not make up for it Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Explain.
  • Well phone storage is faster plain and simple than uploading apps to sd cards and based on the problems of Windows 10 that won't exactly be for the best especially since storage is cheap the minimum should 16 gb and it having a sd card slot doesn't make up for that fact Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • Personally having had Windows Phones with 8 - 32GB memory I don't see the problem with 8GB provided there is microSD expansion. Certainly better than 16GB with no expansion. 
  • By all means keep it low key. God forbid, someone might actually know it exists and buy one.
  • You have won the internet for today sir.
  • I will be generous then and give the internet back to everyone. Tomorrow.
  • Front firing speaker? Cool. Wish it was a 410 at least.
  • "... The Last Lumia" Looks like they finally decided on the new branding. New design language, new team, new phones, new branding... etc.
    ___
    I remember reading Microsoft wasn't fond of the Lumia name from the beginning. & the fact most non-tech people kept mistaking Lumia for Lumina didn't help either! (not a good thing to be associated with that **** bucket... I bet GM would like to forget all about that pos lol)
    So the change is probably for the best. But for sake of everything holy in the world.... Please ditch the numbers!
  • Seems DOA with that small(rumored) 2000 mah battery and even worse(rumored) processor.
  • If MS is stopping Lumia, then I guess the phone I'm using currently will be the last windows phone I'll ever use! Also this 'last lumia's' specs are hilarious....!
  • Surface Phone: I hope it is: ​- light
    - thin
    - tries NOT to be a pc just for the sake of it
    - launched before fall 2016 (with no windows phone in between windows as a mobile platform will be dead)     
  • I don't know about dead. You never know what can be announced by OEMs...
  • i forgot two more things:
    ​- beautiful surface-line design
    - premium materials
  • Is it so surprisingly difficult to make a balanced phone? Not having used or seen the L650 in action I will reserve judgment for now, but the way they got the L640XL right in terms of specifications and pricing, and features (rich capture etc), I don't understand why they couldn't repeat that success. Take the Moto series for example, absolutely perfect specs for perfect price points, and top notch quality, with that alone MS could pull up the market share. A L9xx, L8xx, L7xx and L6xx, 4 phones a year. That's it! Importantly, they pught to bring rich capture, windows hello in all phones and continuum on at least the 9xx and 8xx phones. The most balanced rangr I feel was the first X20 series, as the L920 & L820 were very well balanced, as were the 720 and 620 and even the 1020. Its how the Moto X/G/E are placed. Hopefully some day.
  • Do you know how expensive it would be to have windows hello in all phones?! Also, who says that everyone wants that.
  • Its a hardware ability that I feel can be cheaper, once widely adopted - like the finger print scanner is becoming more and more common across the board. I want there to be parity in features among the windows mobiles as with android mid and high range phones, else it is sad because we keep lagging behind every time. Enough of playing catch up, wouldn't you say?
  • Maybe I'm in the minority but I think Microsoft is making a mistake ending the Lumia line.  I've always loved their distinct look and they work very well. I haven't really liked what I've seen about the new Surface phone honestly.  I'm sure it'll run great but it looks boring like every Android device out there. That said I prefer the 640 (both in looks and specs) to this device so I'll stick with that.  
  • The hardware itself looks nice, the use of a snapdragon 210, less so. I mean even £50 phones have a snapdragon 410 now. So that I'd say is the performance minimum and would allow the phone to fulfill the 6,7 and 8XX role this generation.
  • I'm getting a feeling that MS is sticking with the 210 this phone because its simpler for them to make the firmware and rolling out updates, rather than adapt firmware to a wide range of chipsets. Like its been easy for them to update the S400 containing 830/640/640XL/730 are listed for win10 updates, same with 1520/930
  • Ive been buying lumais since day one because of their vibrant colours so im not liking this trend for black and white only. Yes i know we can buy extra cases but i like the OEM feel
  • Released with little fanfare? In the grand scheme of things the 950 and 950XL were released with not a great deal of marketing but is still selling out.
    Maybe Microsoft know that this is an under par device, the last of previous regime. Hopefully they'll communicate what their immediate and long term plans are sometime this year.
  • do you really think the 950 is selling out lol.
  • Well the 950XL was sold out in all Carphone Warehouse stores in the entirety of Europe. The 950 has also been selling really well so it may well have sold out as well.
  • My L730 was stolen and I was actually waiting for this phone and was hoping for a miracle concerning the snapdragon210, I will just buy lumia 730 again. I think its still the best mid range lumia, 640xl camera is not as good as 730, I would have opted for it.
  • On paper the 730 and 640xl had the exact same specs. I had a hard time deciding between them. I went for the XL cause it was newer.
  • Absolutely happy with the 640XL. Camera is good enough. Big screen and a beast of a battery.
  • They should just copy the x20 series.
  • Low-key? As opposed to the huge marketing blitz they put on for the 950/950XL?
  • Good one!
  • Could of used a better processor at least
  • The camera is step back
  • From what? The front camera is an improvement.
  • 1 gig ram isn't cutting it for windows 10 mobile. It's like being back on 512 Mb ram of windows 8.1
  • why do they put a mid ranged phone into such a sexy shell yet stick the flagship in cheap plastic?  i dont get what microsoft are thinking?  Shame its only in boring colours black and white and shame the screen doesnt round off at the edges.
  • MS is conditioning your mind to rethink what is cheap and what is premium. We've been slaves to apple design for far too long.
  • 1GB ram ffs?
  • What a horrible upgrade to the 640 with a horrible chipset especially when you notice that the 550 isn't any different. I'll say the 640 beats this phone Posted via the Windows Central App for Android on my Lumia 950 XL
  • I think that the last Lumia was the 1520, the last made and presented by Nokia. Really sad the end of the story in Microsoft hands. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • I think that the last Lumia was the 1520, the last made and presented by Nokia. Really sad the end of the story in Microsoft hands. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Then when do you spec to shut down this site? Nobody wants pcs, this is the last Lumia, maybe you must change your resources to be only a gamers web. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • MS is conditioning our minds to think metal=cheap, polycarbonate/plastic=premium.
  • In and around 22-25 February 2016 at least one mobile phone will be announced thats my guess. With that announcement a clear picture will be spelt out in terms of the Lumia brand.
  • Is it just me or does the 650 look like a much more attractive design than the 950s? If this is a cheap outright buy and it comes to Verizon this may be the phone that holds me over until surface. I would prefer that over switching to AT&T and paying $550 for a phone that I will probably want to trade up from within a year.
  • Those are some clean wallpapers.
  • Blu HD LTE all the way...no more lumias
  • Hey Dan a doubt. If you are going to an event will all the mobile nations writer go together or does wc go separately. And do you guys know each other or intact? Coming to the topic I'm happy that this is the last Lumia. If Ms has the guts to do this then it means that more manufacturers are on board with Windows mobile. I won't be surprised if we see around 5 - 8 Windows phones in MWC. And you know how xiaomi promised an entrance this year into us and uk? They can't release a phone with miui without getting sued by Apple. Maybe their first device will be a Windows one. Just saying.
  • I find I a shame that they are doing away with the colorful design and are going for boring bland black and white ...
  • At least it looks premium, not cheap like 635/640
  • Who knows what it'll look like.....these are just renderings from a contest on WC.
  • I also like windows central logo ! Lol
  • I am sad to say but if they dont announce something like lumia 850 I am going back to android for the time being and watch from aside. Some 200$ chinese xiaomi or maizu device is so much better deal than any phone out there. My lumia 820 is getting really old day by day probably not getting windows 10 officially either...
  • Yawn.... Just add another POS to the ever confusing and non-consistent list of Lumia model numbers. MS, please stop the madness that the idiot Stephen Elop created. Balmer is gone. Elop is gone. Cut your losses and drop the Lumia name and let's get serious about a Surface phone.
  • Ah this americans...so dumb they still think a name change them all. Good luck with that;)
  • This won't work for many reasons. Surface phone can live in parallel with Lumia's, but without them, with no basic midrange phones and 10+ million sales, existing developers will leave the plarform. SF is going to be a very niche device.
  • I personally think that, unfortunately to my heartache Microsoft is pulling out of the phone market completely. This to me is sad because it has the best ui I have held and the concept is amazing. Sad to see, I do not like android or iPhone and it just seems like that is all what we are going to get.
  • Great way to announce a new phone - don't tell anyone! :P Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Well, minding the w10mobile... To tell... would be a goodbye for ever. Why? Cause is a freaqing beta system.... My crow soft is pathetic at this point. I still can't believe a company like tht can go so low... And no, i'm no troller, in fact, i own a freaqing 950xl...frutrating as ****!
  • Don't be so negative! Listen to Jason Ward - Mastermind is at work, he is ahead of the curve! ;) Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Little fanfare because there's nothing worth mentioning. MS isn't even trying anymore.
  • When head phone is connected,u never know whether connected or not.when Wi-Fi on U never know mobile data is connected or not.
  • How long can my 928 hold out? How long can I wait for Verizon to carry a new hot phone? I don't want Apple. I don't want Android, but I need better news than this.
  • The last Lumia?? I may have to get one just for that reason lol
  • Lumia 650 is last phone? What's the meaning of this?
  • http://www.lan-shop.cz/microsoft-a00027043-lumia-650-198524 200 euros in Europe. This is insane, because you can cash out 50 euros for phone with same spec. 
  • This is the phone that hits my sweet spot!
  • I'm just wondering how you can have less "fanfare" than the 950/XL.  
  • Last Lumia of the year... or last Lumia ever? Which is it?
  • Ever.   Makes sense.  That 7 and a half billion writedown happened for a reason.   I'd lay even odds that Microsoft doesn't release another phone EVER (including any fantasy Surface phone).  Most of the employees working on WP were broomed when the writedown happened...at this point, I'd have to imagine that the Phone Team is six guys working out of a temporary trailor set about two miles behind Microsoft Way.   Looks like they sent Belfiore to Witness Protection. Hope I'm wrong, but I think Microsoft is pretty much done with this, and will use apps on other platforms to stay in mobile.  
  • Lol Posted via the Windows Central App for Nexus 5x
  • For this price I can easily buy an IPhone 5/5c 32 gb refurbished with way better specs...
  • Been waiting for Lumia 750.. For months now..!! Now you **** me like this.. Been sick of protecting windows phone name amongst everyone who uses android.. Giving myself hope around windows 10 mobile. Now u dnt back me up..? Why Bill why.? Surface phone.. Yeah I know.. That'll take time.. Fine with that but till then where do we windows phone fanatics go..? Huh.. Got no option.. Have to buy an android phone now.. And trust me I ain't coming back..!!!
  • Mee too have been waiting for months for Lumia 750.
    Looks like I will have to get some other phone
  • that phone looks damn pretty if you ask me .  I might just have to get onew of those :)     
  • That's just a concept drawn up by someone here. We have no idea what this phone looks like.  
  • Colors: Matte White or Matte Black
    Dull. Where did that famous Lumia colour range go?
  • This should had been the lumia 550.
  • I dont have problem with chipset, i have problem with price. Oppo,Meizu,Xiaomi,huawei phones with snapdragon 615 and 617 cost 200$. This lumia 650 with this price tag is doomed to fail!
  • Really hope it does pick up wireless charging.  This is a great feature and it would be a shame it it was relegated the the flagship 950 series if 750 and 850 really are cancelled especially given widespread availability on other previous Lumia ranges. 
  • Looks ok, not great, but ok. I was waiting to see what the specs would be, so I could know should I go for l640 or l650. I think I'll pass this device and stick to l640.
  • Honestly, I thought when Nadella was talking about narrowing the Lumia line down, I thought it was from THAT POINT. But no, I think they should have the Lumia brand rebranded quick, cuz people are now buying Lumia's for replacements or for the kids at high school. No Joke. We need a premium looking surface phone to get everyone's attention. Or even if this is the last year of Lumia it would have made sense to release a low and midrange phone = 550 and 750, then go ahead with surface phone
  • Who is buying these low end POS devices? Seems Microsoft is only focusing on building low end devices for the Indian market.
  • I have a Lumia 635 from Sprint so if they carry this and the 850 isn't really coming out, I'm definitely gonna grab this probably first day. Hopefully they patch up W10M by then. W10M when it's good it's great, but when it's bad it's really bad and that's most of the time.
  • I'd rather this https://youtu.be/PcKoWve3PK0
  • Most of the Lumia phones look so generic, it's a shame. Also most of them have older and slower hardware.. And now this... this.. Qualcom 200 series cpu and low end components.. They should seriously release phones that have a bit better soc and 2gb ram, and not limit that to high end phones.. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • Hmm why is Microsoft so quiet about the feb 22 mobile world congress event MWC is a big world wide event for Microsoft to appear there with not even a mid tier smart phone is wierd. Maybe they will introduce the "Surface 4" Atom Tablet that will replace the Surface 3 Atom tablet. Microsoft has to step up their smart phone game because the new 2016 Android and Apple smart Flagship smart phones will get smart phone buying customers money it appears before the Surface smart phones come out the gate.
  • I am waiting for Surface Phone!
  • Phone looks great but specifications sucks
    Who uses snap 200 series procccesor in a 10,000+ rs phone nowadays
    This processor is only gud for phones below 5k
  • Streamline streamline streamline... Except when we don't... Not that I'm complaining, I like more options, but the little things seem to be missing now... Camera button... Camera lenses... Slightly underpowered CPU...
  • Better spend 50$ more and buy the Snapdragon 810 powered LG Flex 2 with 3GB RAM, 16GB,Infrared Blaster, flexible FHD P-OLED Screen, 13.2 MP Camera with 4k Videos possible and Laserfocus, SD-CARD, Quickcharge 2.0, Miracast, and and and. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • I don't think this is the last Lumia because Microsoft has told more Lumia's with iris scanners are cmg after 950/xl launch
  • I see you can buy cases for this as-yet unannounced-phone. ;)
  • Display type? ips? amoled? 
  • A phone with Snapdragon 2xx on board can't be a midrange model, and must not cost more than $100... Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
  • I do hope this is more rumour than fact. The L650 needs to have ClearBlack polarizer on the display, and SensorCore for activity tracking. And I'd prefer if it had a smaller screen than 5 inch. Because I used to have a 930, which had a metal band around it like this... and it was the slipperiest phone I've even owned. Note I said used to have... it smashed.
  • Design is good (actually looks better than 950/950xl) but specs are ugly. Is microsoft teaching us a moral lesson not to judge phones by its casing?
  • Still rocking silver 930 with black back and black 930 with green back, these are tough reliable sd800 running latest builds, not interested in 950 so waiting for surface phone. MS should only build flagships deserting mid and low altogether. Hoping surface phone has x86 ability and refined continuum.
  • thats a step down isn't it? isn't the 640 xl 13mp?  but
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  • omitting the dedicated camera button is just stupid **** IMO
  • Disappointed, to say the least. This is like one step backward. 650 having SD210 while 640 had SD400 (I read about SD210 comparable to SD400, but still). I am currently looking for a windows phone and had almost decided on 640. But it seems MS has decided to withdraw it (from Indian market) may be because of the arrival of 550 or 650. They were selling good numbers with generally postive feed back. Looks like my only option is "Blu Win HD LTE", available for Rs5999 (approx $90) I still love windows phone but I can feel disappointments slowly creepping into my mind, mainly due to these MS strategies
  • Rumor has it that the 650 Lumia might be the last in that line of phones.  Then why the hell would anybody want one? Why not just wait for the Surface phone (or whatever)? Microsoft could not have screwed up it's phones more if Ballmer were still in charge. People don't want some half-baked phone or some phone that lives in the shadow of rumors that Microsoft is going to replace it with some uber-phone. Microsoft would be better off completely pulling out of the phone market until they get their **** together. Then show us something that is fully baked, will be supported for years and is not about to be tossed out because they have a completely retooled replacement coming down the line in a few months. Just stop already! Every move they make (and have made) in this market just causes more and more customers to go to Apple or Android. Microsoft is like the boy who cried "Phone!" Nobody cares anymore. Nobody is listening.
  • Ghosh I can't afford Lumia 950/XL,neither this surface phone.
    I own L730 and was banking on the likes of midrange successors of Lumia 730/830 now it's a sad end to my love.
    Anyways will look for alternatives like ONE+3.
    Good luck Microsoft.
  • Microsoft really doesn't want to provide competitive specs.
  • Why release this phone?  Just a refresh of the 640?  It doesn't seem that much better (if at all) and most will skip over this in favor of last year's models or perhaps move on to another OS. 
  • I swear I'm looking at an iPhone 4/4s. I understand that Microsoft is trying to keep the price down but why not go with a 400 series processor so that it has a snappier response?
  • Folks Microsoft may use the "Windows 10 mobile"  smart phone name instead of "Lumia"  and also use the "Surface" brand for business Class smart phones DONOT get shocked if 2 "Windows 10 Mobile" smart phone is intrduced at Mobile world congress on Feb 22 2016
  • I most definately wont be buying a 650, not unless its $19 to $29 off contract with T-mobile. The 640 is a much better phone user/spec-wise. I see no reason for anyone to get a 650 and pay more to boot when you can get the much better sepecs with $59 640. What is the issue with microsoft mobile division? I dont care if the 650 comes with 5mp ffc and im sure the vast majority of us dont either. Same goes for the aluminum sides. "oh, yes lest put the waeker 210 or 212 soc with slower cpu and lower graphics". yeah thats the ticket! I think he windows crowd is a little bit more savy that that than to buy into a nice looking mule like the 650. Now on the other hand, the Alcatel XL; 5.5" screen, 2gb Ram, and bigger battery - that is something to get excited about. Same SOC as the 650, but all around upgrade everywhere else. prbably will be cheaper too.
  • Last Lumia eh? Wow, Nokia really sticked it deep in to Microsoft's ***... No wonder Ballmer had to go! Good for Nokia, well played guys well played! I think microsoft deserved this, tooooooo slooooooooooow on everyhing, ruined the whole potential. Slow and too many re-starts and whatnot.
  • Another big weak phone? Sub 5" inch amoled display, wireless charging, at least 2GB RAM, win hello support please..
  • It's a nice looking device - I am looking for a replacement for my Lumia 735 which is just too darned slow! I would have happily got the 650 but not with that slow processor. Considering getting a Samsung ATIV SE - except you can't buy them in the UK very easily. I tried an LG G3 which was okay, but too BIG and got really really laggy after a few weeks. I surely can't be the only person who wants decent battery life (rules out the 950), 5" screen or smaller (rules out 950XL and most Android flagships) and a quick processor(rules out most Lumias)? iPhone looks quite tempting I hate to say!..... Come on Microsoft - make something I can buy!! 
  • is it me or this seems to have a more premium look than the 950?