Some details surface on Nokia's "Sirius" tablet
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More details emerge on Nokia's Sirius tablet, including exact dimensions and $499 price point

The recently leaked details of Nokia's upcoming "Sirius" Windows RT tablet, has been generating a lot of buzz on what exactly will be under the hood. The tablet was first revealed ten days ago in leaked photos from Digi-wo.

WinSuperSite's Paul Thurrott says that he can confirm that the Nokia will indeed be releasing the 10.1-inch tablet and has offered up some specifics about it, including some specs, pricing and accessories.

According to Thurrott, the Nokia tablet, codename "Sirius", will be powered by a quad-core Qualcomm 8974 (ARM) chipset. The 10.1-screen is a 1920 x 1080 IPS screen that will be geared for "outdoor readability," a quality that many tablets have difficulty boasting and is reminiscent of Nokia's Lumia smartphones. While he cannot confirm the 2-megapixel front-facing camera, Thurrott says that the rear 6.7 megapixel one, in true Nokia fashion, will feature Zeiss optics.

All of this, along with a 10-hour battery and optional 4G capability, will be neatly wrapped in a Lumia-esque body that measures .35 inches thick and weighs in at just 1.3 pounds. While the red chassis in the leaked image is the only one that can be confirmed, it's not crazy to think that the "Sirius" could be offered in other colors.

Nokia tablet keyboard
Nokia Patent: keyboard accessory for tablets

One accessory that is confirmed is a keyboard cover that also adds additional battery life. That accessory may reflect a patent that Nokia filed back in 2011 and that was reported on back in April (seen above). Nokia also looks to bring "unique companion experiences" to users via exclusive Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 apps. Their Nokia Music app, though available for all Windows 8 devices, is clearly just the tip of the iceberg.

We first speculated that Nokia would release custom and exclusive apps for their tablet line back in January and now it looks to be the case.

So what will this newcomer to the tablet world cost you? Well, Nokia wants to take the "Sirius" toe-to-toe with the iPad and will therefore price it accordingly, starting at $499. That price seems a bit high for an RT tablet though and it could face similar obstacles as the now cheaper Surface RT, which is running for $349. However, with a 1080P display, high quality camera and unique Nokia design, it could raise awareness of the RT brand.

The last remaining detail is what Nokia will call this tablet. While 'Sirius' is its codename, we have heard 'Harmonia' as a potential moniker for the general Nokia tablet lineup, akin to 'Lumia' for Windows Phone.

We expect the "Sirius" to be revealed under a different moniker at an event on September 26-27 in New York City that Windows Phone Central was the first to learn about. You can bet that we'll be there to give you the skinny on all that Nokia has to show.

Source: WinSuperSite

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More details emerge on Nokia's Sirius tablet, including exact dimensions and $499 price point

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Let's take a look at what 499$ buys you in the rest of tablet land as this seems to be a completely unthinkable amount:
 
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TF700T-B1-CG-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Champagne/dp/B008F4NL0O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377550488&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+transformer+pad+infinity+tf700
 
Congrats, 399$ gives you the same resolution but you get the pleasure of owning a device with slightly less stellar quality and Tegra 3, oh, and wifi only. Dock sold separately, and the price used to be 499...
 
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-10-1-Inch-White/dp/B00D029NNA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377551856&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+3
 
Samsung generously gives you a clover trail+ processor which is a previous generation, 1280:800 resolution and likely a worse quality screen, 1 Gb of RAM and 16GB of memory. Also, yout get the pleasure of owning a device with Samsungs world famous plastic "design". Launched at 399$, and seems to be Wifi only.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-SGP311U1-10-1-Inch-Tablet/dp/B00CE590Z0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377552208&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+tablet+z
 
Let's not forget the Sony tablet Z, 16 GB, wifi, S4 pro SoC, and all this for 499$ at launch. Running android and not windows RT with office. I could go on, but I guess I have made my point. Of course you could also look at cheaper chinese no name tablets with the cheapest components, poor build quality and no support.  Sound like a great deal to me.. And as mentioned, the cheapest Ipad 4 with 3G costs 629$ for 16 GB of storage and no expandable storage.
500$ is in fact a completely reasonable price for a device with such high end specs, and in fact cheaper than comparable tablets in the 10 inch space, the Nexus 10 might come close but it is subsidized by Google as all Nexus devices are. There is certainly room for a cheaper tablet at about 300 USD, but obviously it will have to be built with cheaper components.I certainly think this could be an interesting device, but I will wait and see what else comes out later this autumn before comitting.

High end specs with RT on it? What are you just going to spend that money on the looks? Its still very limited as to what it can do. At that price it should come with a keyboard and a pen. App selection compared to the iPad us what normal people -not us- are going to look for. Pretty hardware has yet to work. Take Surface RT for that story.

Just to put things in perspective, you must not forget one important aspect. The Nokia Sirius with LTE is carrier bound and will therefore go against the 32GB iPad with LTE presently priced at $729.

If the tablet ends up looking anything like that, with other color options, I'll be wanting one in red and one in cyan! And a yellow one for my girlfriend!

I just hope Nokia knows "more" about the near future of RT if this is true.

Maybe bringing the platforms more together and merge both app stores?

WP8 has the (some) apps and RT is the spin off from W8. Merge RT and Phone to something compatible with W8 and life becomes easier. Or?

In order to be relevant in the tech blogs community, apparently one must commit to spreading a believable combination of FUD and ignorance. RT does enough out of the box better than an iPad to justify someone who doesn't own a tablet choosing it over the iPad. True, it doesn't run apps that the iPad does but for the most part, they aren't necessary apps. If only people touted functionality and not popularity...

I'd be willing to spend $499 on an RT tablet IF it comes equipped with an active digitizer for inking, the keyboard and built-in Qi-charging. Though if that price included LTE, then yeah, we have a deal.
 
Nokia fully understands that their best bet lies in entry-level pricing, this Sirius tablet is a premium device meant to represent what Nokia tablets are fully capable of and to score margins wherever possible.
 
I am willing to bet that Nokia also has a 10.1 inch $299 Windows 8 tablet running on Bay Trail in the pipeline.

$500 didn't work for Surface RT, or any other RT device out there. Not enough apps, so why would this be a success for Nokia at this price. Doesn't anyone get it? RT is dead at this price point. Failure!

I couldn't agree more but it seems like Nokia wants to try for it themselves and expect a different outcome. That $900 million write down from Microsoft or other OEMs dropping RT didn't scare them off. They're either really brave or really dumb.

Don't forget that the Nokia Sirius with LTE is carrier bound and with its $499 price point will be competing against the iPad with LTE that is currently priced at $729. The $230 price difference is a point to consider before you start saying "Failure" and calling anybody "dumb".

You have a point. Do you think Nokia is in a position to heavily subsidize products at this stage in its transition? You might also want to take a look at what's on offer.
I am not advocating the $500 price tag. But I think it's premature to pass a verdict on the success of the product bassed on this.

Folks, can we stop quoting prices for Android tabs and the IPad as if the fact that this is a little cheaper helps. It doesn't. I don't care if the Ipad cost 1k and this is 500. The general public does not want Windows tablets. They don't want RT and they don't want Windows 8 tablets at this point eaither. The general public will not spend 500.00 on any type of Windows tablet. I will, most of us might, the general public won't. They generally don't klike Micrsoft to begin with, They have heard nothing but negative things about RT while hearing the Ipad being praised and they are being overwhelmed at the store by the sheer amount of Android products. Windows tablets at 500.00 do not stand a chance at this point. Nokia of all people should know this. If they don't want to believe Micrsoft's results, just ask Samsung or Asus or Lenova or Acer or...
 
People call us price trolls and RT haters. I'm neither. I'm fine with RT the way it is other than wanting a few more games and apps and I would be willing to pay 500 for this and the Surface. But I'm also not going to ignore the last year of sale #'s or the negative spin from the press that's is always an obstacle or the absolute blind love that the general public has for the Ipad at the moment. This price point for any Windows tablet is a mistake. Doesn't matter about the resolution or memory or additional features. They won't sell at the level that is needed. The Surface Pro won't sell at this price at the level needed either. You and I here will buy it, some Tech enthusiats will buy it but the general public just won't. 300.0 max for RT, maybe 500.00 max for Windows 8 but it better be 128 GB, 1080P, USB ETC. It's a shame, but that's just the current state of Windows tabs. It gets tiring trying to convince people they are worth the price because believe me I try. Every day, I try.

"The general public does not want......." - Please stop speaking for the general public, the general public can speak for itself so just speak for yourself.

I hope they would add a digitizer pen (like the Galaxy Note S-pen) to make it more a productive device. I hope the Win 8.1 RT also support Miracast so that I can mirror the screen onto HDTV, great for use in classroom or boardroom.

Digitizer is a must in my opinion.  I'd love to see Microsoft productize their research project (revealed 18 months ago) that does away with the typical digitizer display layer found in today's solutions and instead uses a more advanced digital pen.

I thought.Microsoft was already doing some of that with their Surfaces. Even then, Microsoft is probably selling them to schools for low margins. I say Nokia do it, business is risky and sometimes they're worth the risk.

Iyea. What's with the hate? Consider that at $500 it does undercut the iPad but not nearly enough. People pay a premium on iPads not just for the hardware or OS, or even superior performance in general. Its the APPS. Their catalog of popular, high quality apps is HUGE, and if Nokia and Microsoft want RT based tablets to compete on any meaningful level without a MUCH more robust app store coupled with a $500 entry price tag they are shooting themselves in the foot. No whining. Just thoughtful points to consider.

The iPad with LTE that the Nokia Sirius with LTE will compete against in the carrier is priced currently at $729. If $230 is not enough of an undercut, how much do you think the price cut should be.

The apps are NOT what makes iOS products premium price, they pay for themselves...don't act as if RT can't run apps, because it can. Ok, so developers are basically worthless and can't figure it out but try again. Apple didn't make all those apps, they milked those developers of their 33% the old fashioned way. It seems Microsoft's problem is they are too kind with developers... =/

Tablet market is still in its infancy for most of the world outside US, Western Europe and Japan. Considering Nokia's deep distribution network that is unmatched reaching all the small towns across the world, this is a good start. Nokia can take this device to a middle class consumer in India or China and sell it as their ONLY family computer. And there are lot of places in the world where you cannot buy an iPad even if you want to because of Apple's limited distribution network. Remember, it is hard to get carrier support for tablets unlike cell phones.
GO NOKIA, if you execute well, you have a great opportunity in your hands. Just like WP8, W8 RT could be your own OS, with little to no development cost from your pocket.

Here's another tablet I won't be buying. 10 inch tablets are simply too big for what I use them for. I have yet to find any tablet that combines the fuctionality and portability of my Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7. Perfect size, killer screen and 4G LTE connectivity. So what if it's two years old. It works brilliantly. I would love to see Nokia come out with an 8-inch version of this tablet. That might get my interest.

Surface RT is a good product but MS didn't capitalize on 3 key areas.
1. Price point way too high at launch.
2. Hardware specs were too damn slow to run the OS
3. No LTE/3G
Guess what all of that is fixed with the 2nd gen refresh.
Gues what RT did though bring apps to the app store not bad not bad..
I think the Nokia tablet price is ok it could be a bit cheaper. Needs pressure sensitive pen support & awesome first party Nokia apps and now were talking :)

I say yes to the pen!
But people forget that the Nokia Sirius has LTE and is carrier bound where it will compete with the current iPad with LTE that has the price tag of $729.

I'm not sure how I feel about Harmonia. 4 syllables seems like a mouthful. Then again, I can't think of anything better in particular right now.

I'm not sure why people on this site act like they have the definitive formula to outselling the iPad. Its even more nonsensical that they think a lower price is going to help. Just like it has been since the beginning: successful technology solves a problem. The iPhone was less functional than the Motorola Razr, but it solved the app problem and developers made a mint. The Killer App is what it used to be called. The moment somebody else actually uses a competing platform to solve a problem, creates the killer app tied to its platform, Apple is cooked. The truth is people are already poised to leave, but they have no clear vision of where to go.

I think the Windows tablets solve a problem, they can replace a laptop and have great battery life to boot. Problem is, they are too expensive. That's why people still buy shitty laptops instead of these tablets., price. iPads do not do productivity well, but they are simple, work well and have all of the apps plus beautiful well built hardware. So the only thing these Windows tablets don't have, since the commercials on TV show what they have over iPad, are apps. They solve a problem. Windows does not have apps, and the problems they do solve, freaking productively, is not worth the price because you can get a shit Dell laptop for $300.

Solving a problem is not the same as having a Killer App.
People still buy these laptops mainly because they are confused about their options. They don't know that the particular tablet will actually meet their needs because there are no reliable media outlets that give that information. The few that do actually report useful info are generally swarmed by fanboy soldiers. Jobs knew what he was doing when he designed his products marketing.
Price has nothing to do with it. Talking about the price of this product is simply a distraction. And a misleading one at that when you take into account that you pay more for the same functionality in an Apple product (something that is being ignored by the people screaming about price for a reason).
The portability problem no longer needs solving. Nor do the apps, space/storage or productivity problems need solving. Apple products are as popular as they are because they are essentially the Blue Pill. Android is decidedly a Red Pill.  WP8 seems to want to be a blue pill, but keeps smacking us in the face with things that don't work yet.
I'm digressing a bit. Price is hardly the most important factor. The best selling option is wildly overpriced.

Nokia/ms should only have rt in 7-8" devices and the price ranges less than $300 to be competitive. And why dont put in a great pureview like 20mega to be the best camera on tablets

The tegra 3 was a very slow processor for Windows, even a stripped down RT. The Snapdragon 800 clocked at that speed has the floating point and interger performance close to an entry level icore i3 laptop CPU. This thing will be very fast.
 
$450 Surface RT + keyboard (no LTE)
$450 Galaxy Note 10 (no keyboard & no LTE)
$500 ipad 4 (no keyboard & no LTE)
$580 Transformer infinity + keyboard (no LTE)
$730 ipad 4 + LTE (no keyboard)
 
$500 Nokia Sirius + keyboard + LTE!!!!!!!

Are you people crazy! The Surface was heavily marketed with the keyboard. That was a $600 purchase compared to $500 for the ipad 4. Nokia's tablet will likely be priced with the entry level 10" ipad BUT COME WITH A KEYBOARD & LTE!!! The price of the tablet is extremely competitive with the ipad. With that hardware, it will be the best value in the tablet space. It also might get subsidised a bit through phone carriers with a 2 year contract.
 

The reason MS took that huge loss is because they wildly over produced a 10" tablet when 80% of the sales in the tablet space moved to 7-8" tablets. The Google nexus 10 is moving less than 200K a quarter. They also had limited retail and no enterprise channel distribution because they wanted to protect their partners and increase their margins by selling through their limited number of stores.

 
If Nokia comes into this with more realistic expectations of 200-300K per quarter with an initial order of 500K units they will be fine.

I think you are one of the few who can actually see that the Nokia Sirius with LTE is carrier bound and will be going against the iPad with LTE that is currently priced at $729.

With the recent price cuts the Surface RT sales have surpased the pro. The surface pro only sells about 100-150K units a quarter. Due to cost, haswell/ivy bridge tablets are not mass market devices. They have to sell @ $800+ because the i5 mobile cpu alone is $320+ for OEMs.

I can't say I'm crazy about that keyboard design... and hopefully they'll have two types like the Surface.

I have to say I'm not head over heels about the design either...but maybe it's because the one we saw was red and I hate red. I need to see it in black. Still...the design of the Surface is gorgeous...it will be hard to beat.

I'm definitely going to check this one out...but only IF the price tag goes for around 350€. Anything higher and I'll just skip it. For 350€ and I'll buy one even though I don't need another tablet and the Surface RT meets all my needs. Also, it would help if, like the Surface, this Nokia device comes with Office. Otherwise...another deal breaker to me.

I don't care for Windows 8 on tablets. RT is good and enough. All I need is good battery life, Office and a keyboard. In that sense, this Nokia tablet will have to be really awesome and really cheap for me to give away my Surface.

Brig it out with W8.1 not RT and I'm sold. Add 4gb of RAM and the new super efficient processors and I'm sold. SOLD I SAY! jejeje. Alright. Back to dreamig... Its late. jejeje

The Nokia Sirius with LTE is carrier bound and therefore will be going against the iPad 4 with LTE that is currently priced at $729. I think this good-looking tablet RT is in the right place. May it prosper long and well!

It unfortunately doesn't matter how good the tablet is... you *cannot* charge $500 for the entry level price. It *HAS* to be less than $400.
We're going to have Atom tablets with 1080p displays, equivalent battery life, and full windows 8 selling for less than $400 soon. Why would you pay $500 for an RT tablet? >.<

None of those 10" full windows tablets will have LTE support
None of them will cost less than $400 with 1080 displays
None of them will come with keyboards
None of them will be $100-$150 subsidized by carriers
 
The new lenovo Miix 10 tablet with last year specs was just released for $500. Baytrail T will be more expensive than the current clover trail Atoms. $550 will likely be the starting price for Baytrail-T 10" tablets & add another $120-140 for an OEM matching keyboard accessory.

This tablet is targeted for the niche but growing higher margin carrier supported LTE market. Those with data contracts that want a larger screen experience than the upcoming 6' Bandit phablet.

It's mostly due to lack of communication and excution of the product line on so many levels, and I am not just talking Microsoft.  Walk into an AT&T store or walk up to a T-Mobile Kiosk at the mall, the sales people barely know or don't know how to navigate a windows phone or 8 device.  I work for a major office supplly retailer.  I can demo every computer, tablet and printer in the store, regardless of brand or OS.  I will even recommend Apple products if it's going to meet the needs of the customer.  Many consumers that I have helped since the launch of the RT tablets and then the Win8/pro tablets, all had these concerns.  1. what apps were avaiable for the RT?  2. Does it come with Outlook? 3.  Where can I purchase one.  Microsoft should have gotten the Surface RT, into alot more retailers sooner.  Customer were clamoring for the MS tablet, for the first few weeks of Windows 8\RT launch.  No retailer outside of Microsoft, had them yet, not even for display purposes, so consumers could try it out.  Many consumers got too see the Samsung Ativ, and the ASUS vivotab.  These two tablets were priced another $100, more the the Surface was, so this turned alot of my customers off.  The school district, Universaty, Community colleges, and Businesses could not make big purchase Orders, due to the lack of their respective distributain partners, still get authorization to sell from MS.  Most consumers, wanted the Office Home and Business, meaning they were looking for Outlook, so they did not need a constant internet connection, when traveling.  This was a very big sticking point for most of my customers.  You take the price of Office off you have a pretty sweet deal on a tablet, to bad you don't get a chioce of not having Office.  There was only abut 4000 apps at launch, it is now over 110,000.  Most customers didn't seem to care about the apps, since they could still use IE for accessing their busniess.  I mean my bank does not have a mobile app or WaP yet, but I use IE, and I have the mobile version of the site comes up, and I still can do my bank that way.  I guess my point is that need better presence in the retail sectore and enterprise channels, do a better job of explaing the benefits in ADs, and knowledgable sales reps on the sales floor.  I shouldn't be the one, demonstrating a WP or tablet to a sales rep.

Tips_y. That $230 buys you an OS that people already are more than familiar with and APPS. Access to hundreds and hundreds of APPS many of which are specifically designed to be run on the iPad.

Who might buy the new RT tablets from Nokia & Microsoft? Folks like us who already enjoy the platform, however people who are already invested in the Apple ecosystem will NOT switch, some may, most won't and tablet newbie's want APPS. They will pay the premium price to get access to premium APPS. Until RT supports even a third of the premium content that the Apple ecosystem does, the price point MATTERS.

Still it's the other way around, its not like, "RT doesn't function, so we can't make apps for it" the apps makers are the ones that need to support RT...everyone is erroneously treating RT as substandard. =/

Why does everyone insist upon treating RT as less valuable than iOS, app store notwithstanding, like we all seriously expect these things to cost nothing because android set the expectation that an OS is cheap? Sad... =/ #communismiswinning

OK, Again. I am a Surface RT owner and I enjoy it. However is this site full of MS fanboys or are folks having a problem with REALITY. I'll give you an example. I like the Tune-In app which is available on my RT. IT DOESN'T WORK. IT NEVER HAS. I understand that this is one small example however it illuminates a much larger problem with RT. It is a tablet that is VERY capable and flexible and in many ways does so much more than any iPad can do. However there is one critical Achillies heel: The unacceptable lack of quality apps that work! Period. If you want to tout the versatility of the Surface RT great do that, however without an even comparable amount of quality apps please tell me what average consumer will shell out $500 to start for a pretty solid tablet that DOESN'T EVEN HAVE MANY OF THE MOST POPULAR AND USED APPS IN THE TABLET SPACE. The bottom line is until MS does whatever the heck it has to do to shore up its PATHETIC APP ecosystem people will often opt to PAY MORE for a device that will support its user needs NOW, rather than to save a couple of bucks and NOT HAVE WHAT THEY WANT. 

Qualcomm Snapdragon 8974 (Sirius) vs Nvidia Tegra 3 (Surface RT)
I try to offer at least some information in my post.
Specs for the Sirius (left) vs Surface RT (right):
Processor:
2.5 GHz vs.1.6 GHz
28nms vs. 40nms (more powerful, yet cooler processor for the Qualcomm)
Dimensions:
0.35in thick vs. 0.37in thick
1.3lbs vs. 1.5lbs.
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First, when talking about tablets, more specifically, Windows RT (ARM) based tablets, the talk legacy apps should stop.  Now, once we get pass that we can really start doing some fantastic comparison.  The biggest note to me is how much the 8974 processor kicks the pants off the Nvidia Tegra 3.  I enjoy my Surface RT, but boosting performance by this much is more than welcome.
 
Also, if the Sirius is $499 (assuming this is for the 4G LTE version), it would not be hard to imagine a $349 version without the 4G capability, so we shouldn't be too quick to whine about price.
 
- moxie
 

I laugh at posts with people complaining that RT wont run their Computer software, and how fast ATOM is over ARM.  Windows RT is not ment to run computer software anymore than Apples IOS is ment to run MAC software.  It's a tablet not a PC, and it is ment to compete against other tablets.  As for ATOM vs ARM I don't see the appeal.  Non of us would want an atom powered Laptop or desktop PC running Windows 8, so why does everyone feel its such a great option?  Any software you would be able to run at any performance level would be basic at best.  In my opinion Microsoft should have never released a Windows 8 Pro tablet, and left that for the Laptops / Desktops of the world.

It's hard to see how this will have a better reception than Surface RT.  Surface RT is a beautifully engineered piece of hardware hobbled by an already obsolete operation system.  The NexGen atom (Haswell based Bay Trail) will have better performance under Windows 8, match battery life, have great performance for Metro apps.  Can't see it doing any better than the Surface RT.  It's a shame because they are just starting to get their financials in order with the release of the 520/521/620 budget line of Windows Phone 8.

Wonder why they choose to call it Sirius. The radio? Taking a shot at apple's siri? Pretty sure they could come up with another name. Interesting.

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